Root Access

Bob

10:00

@Gowtham @JourneymanGeek can probably explain better but basically you want to amplify later most of the time, dedicated amps notwithstanding.

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Q: From a quality perspective, what is better: turning volume up in the software, in the OS, or on the speakers?

If music isn't loud enough, how do I get the best quality (even if the difference is in fact so small it's negligible)? By making the music louder in my music player, game or other sound-producing software program? By raising the volume at the operating system level (for instance, by clicking t...

Gowtham

@Bob ok

Bob

Huh.

Gowtham

I geddit ;p

Bob

the answer there is the other way around o.o

Journeyman Geek

@Gowtham: common wisdom is its the other way around

tho, there's always the weakest link ;p

Bob

10:12

hm

1

Q: USB ports don't recognize most of my devices anymore after I cleaned my PCs inside

I've opened my PC and cleaned it from the inside, after I attached it to power again, most of my USB devices are not properly recognized anymore. Specs: Windows 7 Professional x64 Motherbaord GigaByte GA-X58A-UD7 Case is a Obsidian 800D How I cleaned my PC: Opened the case on both sides us...

windows-7 usb

Journeyman Geek

actually, good question

Gowtham

@JourneymanGeek hmm

Journeyman Geek

but I turn mine up, pass it through an external sound card, then an amp so ... ;p

Gowtham

10:43

yay bcdboot saves the Windows Loader again

Though grub is nuked :/

Journeyman Geek

do you still have the linux partition?

you could get easybcd to chainload linux instead

Gowtham

bcdboot is included in Windows PXE

I simply used the Windows Install iso ;p

@JourneymanGeek Interesting

@JourneymanGeek yes

but then I like grub better ;p

github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/blob/master/source/plugins/…

okay ...

Journeyman Geek

o0

Gowtham

Doesn't work -_-

Oliver Salzburg

11:49

@Bob WTF @ KBD Abuse?!?!?! He shall burn in hell

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Eh, not that bad, all things considered.

@JourneymanGeek On one hand, I want to carry ink refills with me. On the other, I really dont want a black pocket/bag

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm just carrying spare gels ;p

Bob

lol

got a couple spare ballpoints. might just fall back to them

but different ink colour D:

my books will look weird D:

Tom Wijsman

12:10

!! TayTayTay

:(

Journeyman Geek

yeah, someone blew up the bot ;p

Tom Wijsman

The bot is crazy.

!! summon 118

@Gowtham: ^ Type the above? :D

But wait, he's not here; how does that get to summon him then? :/

Gowtham

we tried @TomWijsman

3 hours ago, by jokerdino

!! summon 118

oh missing bot, store this when @somequixotic comes back
!!learn toolbarno 'https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1157527_716015125082634_450330784_n.jpg'

@JourneymanGeek dino kicked it

Gowtham

12:34

Can someone summon this bot here ? chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9865/the-chat-bot

Simply type !! summon 118

:)

It should work

Oliver Salzburg

From our newspaper: 82 year old shop owner stabbed - suspect escaped with several flutes

flutes

Journeyman Geek

o0

Oliver Salzburg

wtf?

Journeyman Geek

o0

Oliver Salzburg

I'm thinking about pulling all the key caps off my keyboard and putting them into the dish washer. Any comments on that? :D

I wonder if I would be left with blank keys afterwards :P

Journeyman Geek

12:50

we used to do that ;p

no issues

I might do it with my BW if I get a key puller

Oliver Salzburg

"used to do"? You got something better now?

And, yeah, I should get one of those key pullers as well, I guess. Saw it in a question just the other day

Sweet

Not what I was looking for though

Impossible to find on German Amazon. Hopefully I'll be able to replicate the design ;P

Journeyman Geek

naw, we haven't stuck our keys in the washing machine in ages.

Bob

13:09

@OliverSalzburg Careful. The drying cycle can melt keys.

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Don't want that

Bob

You'll want to keep it away from any heating elements, at the very least. Maybe even manually stop it when it starts drying.

Our dishwasher has deformed many utensils and plastic bottles (the thick ones you get sauces in, not drink bottles)...

Oliver Salzburg

Yeah, my girlfriend loves to melt stuff in the dish washer :P

I just assumed keyboard keys would be more resistant due to their thickness. But I won't take a risk with it

Bob

Well, they're just the right thickness to.. wait, I'll see if I can find that deformed bottle.

Oliver Salzburg

_selectedTracks.Clear();
_selectedTracks.ForEach( t => t.Deselected() );

Gah!

Clear the selection before you iterate over it, smart! ;P

Bob

13:13

Nope, it's gone.

o.O

Boris_yo

Bob

13:36

Boris_yo

"CLIENT: “Why haven’t you changed the website yet? I gave you the information an hour ago! You’re so slow, I might have to think about other options.”

ME: “Have you tried refreshing your browser?”

CLIENT: “Ah, much better, you’re fast!”

Oliver Salzburg

13:56

jokerdino

if they say so

Oliver Salzburg

That is so stupid...

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Where is that from?

Sounds like those "100% virus free!" logos.

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob piratebrowser.com

jokerdino

ah

Bob

13:57

The more such logos are plastered across a site/program, the less I trust it.

@OliverSalzburg Wait. No modifications?

Then wtf is the point?

Oliver Salzburg

lol

Bob

Wait. How is this different from the Tor Browser Bundle anyway?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob s/Firefox/PirateBrowser/

Bob

...

Well that's SO useful!

Oliver Salzburg

I don't know really

Bob

14:00

@OliverSalzburg reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1k37el/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: it dosen't actually pretend to anonymise you!

Bob

:P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah, that's how I got there

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Yea, I saw the link on the frontpage. Didn't particularly care.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

14:01

Yay, another browser (bundle)! I'll stick with Firefox, tyvm.

Journeyman Geek

someone asked a question about it on SU as well

@Bob: eh, I used to use em for connectivity testing

Bob

I mean, between using a 'bundle' with dubious security and slow updates, and the official release that's most up-to-date, I'd take the latter.

@JourneymanGeek May as well use FF Portable directly.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: oh, the proxy part is pretty important here yanno

Bob

@JourneymanGeek For connectivity testing?

Journeyman Geek

I can tell someone who can't reach a sit 'grab this' and test

yes

I was using operator tho

Bob

14:03

Eh.

It'll work the same as ping 8.8.8.8

Actually, a ping command would be easier.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I mean specific sites not working with specific internet connections

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Then direct them to a webproxy. Still pretty simple.

Oliver Salzburg

Ah, the rare gold in /. comments

> They told me that the streets on Mars were paved with gold, but when I got to Mars I realized that the streets were not paved with gold. In fact, they were not paved at all. Moreover, I was expected to pave them.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Tor doesn't work on a lot of networks, and it's still slower to download something just to check for connectivity.

Journeyman Geek

14:08

@Bob: eh, worked for me

not to mention, I stopped helping out on that site cause the admins suddenly decided they couldn't trust most of the techies who offered to help ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.o

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

And they rejected what I suggested for a feature, Vbulletin (which they went for cause 'its not free and as such better') didn't have either.

So I very politely quit

Bob

The one forum software I can actually navigate the management interface of was SMF...

Journeyman Geek

lol

SMF is my usual preference

They've been planning to move to something called vanilla for the past year

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yay! Another SMF user! :D

Gowtham

14:15

@JourneymanGeek SMF ?

Bob

I'm not even sure what the other major ones are anymore.

Journeyman Geek

simple message forums

Bob

phpBB seems to be fairly rare nowadays

Journeyman Geek

there's PHPbb

Gowtham

Bob

14:15

myBB has popped up

@JourneymanGeek Simple Machines Forums :P

Journeyman Geek

yeah that ;p

I haven't run a forum properly in years tho

Bob

Ya.

The last one I did was two or three years ago.

Journeyman Geek

I'm still a mod in one I think

Bob

Hey, it's still up! :O

Gowtham

Every forum looks like shit ever since i knew about SU

Journeyman Geek

14:16

I quit, they were like 'oh its cool'

lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/…

these guys are cool. ;p

jokerdino

@Gowtham SU IS NOT A FORUM DAMNIT

Journeyman Geek

lol

precisely why forums look like shit ;p

I'd love to mess with discourse, but the installation method is not very... doable

jokerdino

use juju charm

Gowtham

I don't understand discourse

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

14:19

I discovered last year that one of my earlier testing forums had been spammed to death :P

Enabled captcha, suddenly spammers disappeared.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Never figured out how they found it, or why they spammed it. It was quite literally devoid of any other life.

Journeyman Geek

currently this is what I'm messing with

journeymangeek.com

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You got your domain!

Journeyman Geek

lol

I've had it for about a year ;p

Bob

14:21

:P

Every name I use is completely taken.

Gowtham

That's why I started with a unique name ;p

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Eh, I can never think of names.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: 'geek' is usually the name I go by.

Bob

Or remember them, incidentally.

Gowtham

14:22

I was hth everywhere

Bob

Ooh, I think I got one!

Journeyman Geek

Journeyman is a massive internal joke.

Bob

brb, buying domain :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

hm i need a domain

Bob

14:24

Actually, probably better not.

Gowtham

My domain name renewal is coming up next month -_-

Bob

Hm. Back to the drawing board.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Gowtham: plan ahead! ;p

Bob

Any reason you don't have/get a credit/debit card you can use online?

Boris_yo

Journeyman Geek

14:25

@Bob: age I guess? ;p

Boris_yo

When cats have enlarged pupils, does that mean they are on killing mode?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I think we can get them at 16 here.

Definitely by 18.

jokerdino

by 18, you can get a card

Gowtham

@JourneymanGeek i am !

My dad/mom are refusing to pay unless I cut down the time spent in front of the computer so I am blogging again :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

Gowtham

14:29

@jokerdino My bank wants me to get a PAN card before they give me a debit card

Journeyman Geek

they have a bit of a point there, maybe

Bob

o.o

Journeyman Geek

(nooooot)

jokerdino

@Gowtham yeah i need that one too

Journeyman Geek

well as long as your grades are ok ;p

Gowtham

14:30

@JourneymanGeek Some doctor relative of my mom scared her

Oliver Salzburg

North Korean smartphone

Journeyman Geek

@Gowtham: rolleyes

Gowtham

Apparently Doc told her that my brains will go mush :C

Journeyman Geek

I spend upwards of 10 hours a day on a computer

my brain is as agile as ever ;p

jokerdino

lol

@JourneymanGeek i did when i had nothing else to do

Journeyman Geek

14:31

lol

jokerdino

and now i have college until the twilight

Oliver Salzburg

@jokerdino What else is there to do?

Journeyman Geek

I'm watching a movie, I do homework, I listen to music...

jokerdino

still, i end up in front of the screen on weekends.

Oliver Salzburg

Oh that

jokerdino

14:31

@OliverSalzburg lol

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: eh, I need computers for class too ;p

jokerdino

good for you :P

Oliver Salzburg

You guys and your school! Get over it already! ;D

Journeyman Geek

lol

Gowtham

4 more years to go -_-

jokerdino

14:32

school is my love life :P

Journeyman Geek

I'll have it done by december ;p

jokerdino

@Gowtham 3 years \o/

Gowtham

@jokerdino you got a gf ?

@jokerdino WHAT ?????

WDYM >.<

jokerdino

@Gowtham o.O

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

14:33

Just remember that you'll never have that much free time ever again, unless you don't have a job

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: honestly? I have too much, and its not very efficiently used.

jokerdino

@Gowtham i don't. not yet at least.

and i am doing arts. so only 3 years :P

Journeyman Geek

(which is a suprise ;p)

jokerdino

Being on SU and RA chat.. what else

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

14:35

@JourneymanGeek I took a vacation to work on a non-work-related software project. Think about that ;P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

When I was in school I was writing stuff just for the lulz

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: I have half dozen different VMs ;p

Gowtham

And here I am playing dota 2 for the lulz

jokerdino

@OliverSalzburg i dont know what i am doing

Oliver Salzburg

14:36

Me too! :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

OS/2 Haiku...

jokerdino

lol

Journeyman Geek

Almost had react but the installer is shite

Oliver Salzburg

Most of them are to test shit for clients though ;P

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek reactoblah?

Oliver Salzburg

14:37

> We has IE6 on XP and your website looks like shit! What do you mean outdated? Are you retarded? Everybody in our industry uses IE6 on XP!

Journeyman Geek

reactos ;p

jokerdino

i didnt know it still exists

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: netscape! ;p

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Ah, those.

Luckily, I "only" need to worry about IE8...

(Thank god for small blessings, actually)

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I just force that :P

jokerdino

14:38

@OliverSalzburg tell me what industry is that.

got to avoid it altogether

Journeyman Geek

it does, development slowed down after they lost alex ionescu tho

Oliver Salzburg

@jokerdino Every industry :P

Gowtham

lol

Journeyman Geek

and before that the damned code audit

jokerdino

well then. -.-

Oliver Salzburg

14:40

When I explain to people that we only support IE8+ in our products, like 75% of the time you get a "Okay, so how much would it cost to make it work with IE6 as well? We don't want to lose any clients."

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

NO!

NO IE6 for you!

Bob

@jokerdino Anything computer related.

Gowtham

groan the bot is not here -_-

jokerdino

@OliverSalzburg those clients are good as dead.

@Bob sucks

Journeyman Geek

14:41

IE6 renders google ok ;p

Gowtham

but clients provide money ;p

jokerdino

they must die

Journeyman Geek

I probably should try bing

Oliver Salzburg

@jokerdino I usually counter that with "I can place a notification bar on top for IE6-7 users that says 'Your browser sucks, update naow!' for free. How about that?" DEAL!!!

jokerdino

yay

Journeyman Geek

14:41

lol

Oliver Salzburg

And thus everybody wins

jokerdino

IE6 was the first tabbed browser from IE wasn't it?

Oliver Salzburg

Nope, no tabs

Journeyman Geek

IE6 had no tabs

IE6 was around for too long tho

Bob

@Gowtham You can often get more money by doing more for those clients happy to use a modern-ish browser, than spend all your time trying to stop IE6 from blowing up.

Also, you'll live longer.

Stress is bad for you.

jokerdino

14:42

hm, i don't remember using it in the past 6 years then

Bob

@jokerdino That was IE7.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@jokerdino It's over a decade old.

Gowtham

lol bing works in IE6 !

Journeyman Geek

yup

and was the IE version for 6 years

Bob

14:43

@OliverSalzburg Just make sure it's a blacklist, not a whitelist.

My bank's website whitelists IE/FF/GC/Safari

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: or by version number

Bob

FF Mobile gets redirected to an 'upgrade' page

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I use one of those "services" that's around and just test the result in my VMs

Bob

same with Opera Mobile

It's fucking retarded.

Gowtham

Bob

14:44

Also, best thing to do is to always provide a (small) 'continue anyway' link, with no support.

Oliver Salzburg

browser-update.org That's the one I use. It's multi-language and non-obtrusive

jokerdino

ah, delicious

Bob

@Gowtham Brb booting Win98

jokerdino

guys, no

and then JMG would come back with OS/2 'shots

Gowtham

lolol

jokerdino

14:46

and Boris would be talking about v/2

Bob

Good ol' Win98

Login?

presses Cancel

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

not patched?

Journeyman Geek

esc

I find that amusing.

Bob

@jokerdino Nawp.

Too troublesome.

jokerdino

14:47

useful

Bob

Anyway, Win98 has no concept of ACLs

Nor user security.

User 'login' is primarily for networking.

jokerdino

it was the ancient times

Bob

I'm amazed Google works on IE5.0

jokerdino

I believe some people still use it

Bob

Actually, IE10's compat mode emulates 5.5 IIRC

Bing... it's... usable.

Journeyman Geek

14:49

lol

Gowtham

fuck, firefox lost one of my tab groups -_-

Journeyman Geek

Actually thats PRECISELY why I used those

jokerdino

you mean you closed it :P

Bob

Gowtham

@jokerdino I didn't ;p

Oliver Salzburg

14:50

@Bob Well, it told you to upgrade your browser ;P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg That was the redirect from the default homepage. msn.com

Incidentally, it's useless.

Oliver Salzburg

Hehehe

Bob

Win8 logo up the top, recommends IE8.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I think I mentioned this before.

jokerdino

14:51

it should probably say, 'hey fucktard, this is 2013'.

Journeyman Geek

netscape just 404s

Bob

Of course, IE8 won't install on Win98

@jokerdino lol

waiiiit

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: vmware?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ya

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

14:53

MS can't seem to detect their own browser versions properly.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Also, that Win8 logo is completely out of place.

wtf is the point of that?

Journeyman Geek

everything has it now

jokerdino

obviously, they didn't test it on IE5

Bob

(if anyone was actually on Win98, they might logically assume 98 > 8)

Journeyman Geek

14:53

lol

naw

they would probably want to check windows versions

Bob

Heh. Cipher Strength: 40-bit

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

> 40 bit encryption can be decrypted in less than a day on today's hardware.

welp.

There go my plans for banking in this VM.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

The IE8 download link doesn't even work.

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