Root Access

Hennes

11:03

I think I got this picture from either [SU] or [SF], not sure.
But I just looked at it and it made me think of management.

The managers are obviously the guys (or galls) in the cockpits

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek There is: heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: most converters seem pen specific

Bob

fark

I might just stick to the vpen

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek there are some 'international standard' ones

Journeyman Geek

11:12

until you get your pipettes? ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek just had to prime it again

@JourneymanGeek it dried up @.@

Journeyman Geek

o0

thats odd

Bob

maybe I'm doing it wrong

also, I thin I may have just bent the tip a little

Journeyman Geek

wierd

maybe you're holding it wrong ;p

I noticed I had to adjust my grip with the platinum

Bob

11:44

@JourneymanGeek maybe

but how do I hold it, then? o.O

Journeyman Geek

lol

I donno

I tend to adjust my grip till I get it ;p

Bob

o.O

0

Q: Automatically Formatting Text from Upper Case

My boss is old school, he's not the office type but he runs the business well. He's been in business since before computers became a big part of it, and as such he never quite practiced some fundamentals. Basically, he gets up to 100 emails a day that he must reply to, and he does. But recently...

text

Journeyman Geek

I'm still not 100% with the platinum

Bob

I feel this particular comment applies in his case:

One suggestion would be to just program the kids directly. However, some people prefer the indirect route through the computer, which does provide a convenient pre-existing portal. — Carl Feb 1 at 23:35

Journeyman Geek

Its a software req tho ;p

Bob

11:49

@JourneymanGeek In what way?

Oh, wait, the question text.

Journeyman Geek

ya

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek Oh heya, sorry I'm mostly in lurk mode these days....

Bob

Anyway, I believe someone once called this looking for "a software solution to a people problem"

Journeyman Geek

;p

Mokubai

I've just finally managed to get a Raspberry Pi to be able to compile and program an embedded ARM chip

Bob

11:51

Ah, here:

> Your problem is not technical, but a people problem.

And, another quote:

> This is a people problem, not a technology problem.

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai: cool

jokerdino

@Bob like PEBKAC?

> I would not mind hot chick to teabag me.

Mokubai

It's a rather daft use of a Pi, but it amuses me...

jokerdino

eh what.. hot chick and teabagging someone. O_O

Bob

lol

There, left a comment.

Journeyman Geek

11:55

@jokerdino: its boris ;p

Bob

As someone once succinctly put it, this is a people problem, not a technology problem. This is something the user should learn, should be trained to do. He knows correct capitalisation when hand-writing, right? Then it's not a great stretch to learn the same for typing. — Bob 2 mins ago

I do hope that wasn't too harsh :P

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek yeah. it confirms my theory he doesn't know what he is sending :P

i mean if a chick is gonna teabag you, bloody make sure she is actually a chick.

Mokubai

@Bob Fix the wetware, not the software.

Bob

@Mokubai Never heard that term before. Mind if I steal it for future use?

Mokubai

Think I stole it from various cyberpunk novels so feel free :)

(the "wetware" term at least)

I also favour "meatware" for the times when you want to imply that people are just dumb hunks of meat sitting behind desks bashing at keyboards...

Wetware (brain)

Wetware is a term drawn from the computer-related idea of hardware or software, but applied to biological life forms. Here the prefix "wet" is a reference to the water found in living creatures. Wetware is used to describe the elements equivalent to hardware and software found in a person, namely the central nervous system (CNS) and the human mind. The term wetware finds use both in works of fiction and in scholarly publications. The "hardware" component of wetware concerns the bioelectric and biochemical properties of the CNS, specifically the brain. If the sequence of impulses travell...

Hehe, "Meatware" redirects to wetware on Wiki so I'm not the first to have thought of that term either....

Bob

12:04

o.o

Firefox OS is out on a phone

Michael Frank

On an Alcatel and a Huawei I believe.

Bob

ZTE Open

in Spain

I wonder how Ubuntu Mobile is doing.

jokerdino

Nothing much.

Bob

Wait. What was it actually called?

Ubuntu for Android?

jokerdino

Ubuntu Touch.

Bob

12:12

...

jokerdino

@Bob that's a different technology.

Bob

I don't know anymore.

jokerdino

Ubuntu for Android loads Ubuntu when docked with a monitor and keyboard, etc. Supposedly comes preloaded with Android mobile.

Ubuntu Touch is an alternative for Android OS on mobiles and tablets.

Bob

@jokerdino What defines Android, anyway?

At what point does it become its own OS, rather than just another UI running on top of Android (see: TouchWiz, etc.)

Michael Frank

I... what?

Bob

12:16

@MichaelFrank ?

jokerdino

Ubuntu Touch is not a UI. It's a full blown OS.

Michael Frank

Android is literally the OS.

Bob

@jokerdino The Wikipedia article mentions it runs on the same kernel as Android. At what point is that distinctly Linux-but-not-Android?

@MichaelFrank There's a lot of definitions of "OS".

jokerdino

@Bob Link please?

Michael Frank

Isn't Android based on the Linux kernel anyway?

Bob

12:18

What we call "Linux" could be more technically regarded as the "Linux kernel" with the "GNU userland".

It's... different levels of... specificness?

Ubuntu Touch

Ubuntu Touch is a mobile interface for Ubuntu developed by Canonical Ltd. The interface is designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablet computers. History Mark Shuttleworth announced, , that by Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu will support smartphones, tablets, TVs and smart screens. The Ubuntu platform for phones was unveiled on, . The Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview was released on . Features Ubuntu Touch is a touch-friendly interface based on the desktop Unity interface. It is based on Qt and QML accounts-sso for single sign-on, and Maliit for input. Uti...

More specifically referencing:

Hybris (software)

Hybris or libhybris is a compatibility layer for computers running a Linux distribution (based on glibc or eglibc) to load software written for Bionic-based Linux systems – mainly Android libraries and device drivers. History Hybris has initially been written by Mer developer Carsten Munk who released it on GitHub on Munk has since been hired by Jolla as Chief Research Engineer. Hybris has also been picked up by the Open webOS community for WebOS Ports and Canonical for Ubuntu Touch. In April 2013 Munk announced that Hybris has been extended to allow the Wayland display server to r...

jokerdino

@Bob At this point of development, it's not fully matured. But it's intended to be a replacement to Android much like FIrefox OS.

njallam

13:06

Hi

I'm back with yet another stupid question

I have a PC with a 450W power supply and a XFX DD Radeon HD 7870 graphics card and no onboard graphics

When I start the system with that graphics card, I can hear the drives working (mean in the system is working) but no display output is generated.

If I use another much less powerful card (GTX550Ti) it works fine

Is the power supply insufficient or is there a fault with the card?

I have only been able to connect one of the auxiliary power connectors to the card if that helps.

Hennes

13:30

I'm not looking for a software that has this functionality as a feature,
I'm looking for a lightweight app

I guess apps are not software

Journeyman Geek

14:03

@njallam: does the card have a need for 2?

Boris_yo

Hmm... Trying to install Windows Vista on Windows 7 and getting "Not enough space!"

But I have space - a lot of GBs free. Something tells me even if that wasn't space problem, installer would say still that it cannot install older version of Windows on newer...

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: the installer should wipe out the other partition if you can get into it.

Boris_yo

I found install files but need to burn them with Windows PE with command: oscdimg -bC:\Vista\boot\etfsboot.com -h -lVISTA_EN_DVD -m -u2
C:\Vista\ C:\windows_vista_with_service_pack_1_dvd.iso

Bob

@JourneymanGeek seems to work fine now

perhaps I shouldn't store the pen facing up

Journeyman Geek

'facing up'?

ohhh

yeah, I usually leave mine on the side

Bob

14:12

@njallam Generally: if it has two connectors, giving it two may be a good idea

Journeyman Geek

But, being face side up should be a supported storage position

Bob

@JourneymanGeek "supported"

:P

funnily enough: my video card has both aux connectors on the same line from the PSU

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: if no ink comes out that way, its a feature, not a bug ;p

Bob

it's not a very well-designed PSU

Boris_yo

Why do I need Windows AIK?

Bob

14:14

because you're doing it wrong

and/or someone did it wrong and destroyed the recovery partition some time ago

Boris_yo

@Bob Instructions say I need to download Windows AIK to proceed with burning Vista install ISO.

Bob

Again, if you were doing this the 'correct' way, hacks like this should not be necessary.

Just boot off the recovery partition directly.

Or burn a standard OEM installation ISO.

Not burn the recovery partition onto optical media.

Boris_yo

@Bob I am not burning recovery partition, I burn Vista install I downloaded from Digital River.

Bob

Annnd?

Why the hell would you need to fudge around with boot sectors?

@JourneymanGeek Still wondering if I should get a Preppy :P

Boris_yo

@Bob Boot sectors on DVD?

Bob

14:21

?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I'll let you know how mine was.

Boris_yo

@Bob What sectors are you talking about? I try to burn Vista install so I can boot from USB flash drive and install OS. I have authentic CD-KEY.

Bob

wtf.

I'm talking about your command above.

Go figure out what it actually does, then go take a good long think about what you actually want to do.

Boris_yo

@Bob This is the command I must use to burn on DVD.

Bob

> so I can boot from USB flash drive

> burn on DVD

make up your mind

Boris_yo

14:24

I erred. This command is for making ISO.

"You can then trigger the iso creation by opening Windows PE Tools, which will give you a command prompt. There you enter the following line:"

Bob

...what exactly did you download?

Hennes

Two wims and an exe ?

Boris_yo

@Bob heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the main reason for a Preppy was to have a properly refillable pen

Boris_yo

@Hennes Yes sir.

Bob

14:24

I'm still considering it, since my current one is essentially no-name :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: yeah, the ink I bought comes with one

Bob

o.O

Noodler's?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

still trying to find a source for that

without paying $44 shipping

Hennes

@Boris_yo The correct answer is: Sir! Yes sir! Sir!

Journeyman Geek

14:25

lol

Boris_yo

First instructions tell me to download Windows AIK and then use Windows PE for creating ISO. Seems like Windows PE is part of Windows AIK.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: local noodler's dealer is kinda posh ;p

Bob

Local possible sources are unconfirmed and may cost $25 for a bottle

not too bad, I guess

@Boris_yo have you tried contacting the manufacturer to see if they have a proper OEM download?

Journeyman Geek

oh, here its 25 for a small bottle ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

still, I have to actually find a place

Journeyman Geek

14:28

the one I'm getting is the bigger one

Bob

might go Monday. Just take a trip to the CBD

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: amusing thing is this is the same day I got the 2 dollar one

Bob

hrm. adding on travel costs and time wasted searching, soon all this is gonna cost more than the shipping :P

@JourneymanGeek pen?

Journeyman Geek

yeah

and passed by sniggle ;p

Bob

smiggle*

sniggle sounds like a laugh

Journeyman Geek

14:29

close enough

I think my brother's niece would love the place ;p

Bob

as I said, popular amongst children and teenaged girls

Journeyman Geek

yup

else I would have taken a look ;p

I was doing all sorts of random crap that day

Bob

normally, I wouldn't be caught within a dozen metres of that place

Journeyman Geek

;p

jokerdino

what place? I feel like I should avoid it too.

Bob

14:32

one is positioned right in a major walkway in one of the local shopping centres, though, which makes it a bit difficult

Journeyman Geek

being a slightly overweight dude with a beard has its advantages ;p

Bob

@jokerdino Smiggle. Stationery shop.

Very colourful.

jokerdino

Pinky?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: we're talking about cheapie fountain pens ;p

Bob

The other local 'designer' stationery shop ("Kikki.K") is similarly revolting.

Actually, possibly worse.

Journeyman Geek

14:33

OOH

Bob

Also, they apparently stopped selling FPs a while ago.

Journeyman Geek

I know of Kikki.K

we did an assignment on them for one of my management classes

jokerdino

oh, we are still talking about fountains

Bob

O.O

wat

Journeyman Geek

yeah ;p

I can't remember which module

jokerdino

14:34

heh

Bob

so... anything you can tell me about them? :P

Journeyman Geek

I just usually emit properly formatted intelligent sounding crap

they claim to be a 'lifestyle store'

which is shorthand for 'we sell overpriced crap no one really needs'

Bob

:P

prices weren't that bad, surprisingly

even more surprisingly, they had a shop in both major shopping centres

same with smiggle

Journeyman Geek

I SERIOUSLY never remember any of my management assignments

ooh

Bob

in both cases, i had no idea it existed

Journeyman Geek

14:35

along with muji

they have one in ion

Bob

well, I knew of one Smiggle

muji? ion?

are you still speaking English?

Journeyman Geek

ION Orchard

ION Orchard formerly known as the Orchard Turn Development or Orchard Turn Site, is a shopping mall by Orchard Turn Developments Pte Ltd, a joint venture between CapitaLand and Sun Hung Kai Properties. It started operating on 21 July 2009, occupying 335 food and retail outlets. The Orchard Residences, a high-rise residential condominium, was completed in with the shopping mall under the same developer, manager and owner in 2010. It owned a 99-year leasehold with effect from 13 March 2006. History The Orchard Turn Development, now known as The Orchard Residences and ION Orchard after ...

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

Daiso, and the pen shop I mentioned is there

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

14:36

well daiso is frigging everywhere ;p

Bob

not here

D:

Journeyman Geek

Muji

(), or is a Japanese retail company which sells a wide variety of household and consumer goods. Muji is distinguished by its design minimalism, emphasis on recycling, avoidance of waste in production and packaging, and no-logo or "no-brand" policy. The name Muji is derived from the first part of Mujirushi Ryōhin, translated as No Brand Quality Goods on Muji's European website. Products and businesses Muji started with 40 products during the 1980s, their products range from stationery, and clothing for men and women, to food items and major kitchen appliances and has even included a...

In singapore ;p

Bob

Wait.

Apparently there is one here.

O.O

Journeyman Geek

daiso?

Bob

Ya.

daiso-japan.com.au/store-locations/citisuper

Damn. Town Hall. Wynyard would have been so much more convenient.

They're open till 11pm.. O.O

that's... oddly convenient.

I'll have to go there sometime.

Journeyman Geek

14:39

<3 daiso ;p

Bob

Actually, I need to build up a list of places to go.

jokerdino

Disney land~

Journeyman Geek

lol

Pondering going out next week

Bob

@jokerdino been there done that

Journeyman Geek

feeling cabin fever I think ;p

Bob

14:40

...you plan going out a week in advance? o.o

well, I do that too.. so, bleh.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I end up walking the dog most of the time

and I need to get someone to cover when I do

Bob

s/the dog/myself/

Journeyman Geek

+ military wastes my time

and I need to account for that

yeah ;p

Bob

whoops

I searched Daiso in Nokia Maps

clicked the Daiso Japan suggestion

Journeyman Geek

(well until auguest anyway)

Bob

14:42

ended up in Japan O.O

Journeyman Geek

lol

-4

Q: A rat cut my headphone wire. How I can make my office safe from rat?

I bought headphones few months ago. They got damaged when a rat chewed the wire. They also urinated on wire where they cut it. When I out for a week from office I found a lot of rat potty in my office. I have a lot of wires behind my my table, and I am worried about them. How I can save my wi...

cable headphones wired

whut?

Bob

> They also urinated on wire where they cut it.

that seems completely unnecessary info

Journeyman Geek

considering the question...

Bob

yay

Daiso is right next to the building Pen Ultimate is in

Journeyman Geek

...

Pen... Ultimate?

jokerdino

14:48

It's a pen shop yeah?

Bob

ya

apparently one of the bigger FP sources here

and quite expensive

it's on the second floor of the QVB

jokerdino

you became a pen fanatic since when?

Bob

@jokerdino ask @JourneymanGeek

it's kinda fun trying to find shops in the area, though

oh god

their site is..

I have plugin click to play enabled.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: horrible pun ;p

Bob

penultimate.com.au required flash (blank white page)

Journeyman Geek

14:49

@jokerdino: I totally blame the v-pens ;p

Bob

when I activated flash, it redirected to pensdeluxe.com

ditto flash

on activation, redirect to pensdeluxe.net

I count four gigantic flash objects on that site

who the hell uses flash to handle redirects? O.O

> Pens de Luxe Group

wut. there's another one just down the road from my high school.

the things you don't notice...

Journeyman Geek

until you look for it ;p

Bob

There's another Kikki.K over there.

Wut.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I probably should give popular another look

Popular Holdings

Popular Holdings (Chinese: 大众书局), commonly called Popular, is a Singapore-based company that publishes, distributes, and retails books for the local education market. It has subsidiaries in countries such as Canada, the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong, Malaysia, and Taiwan. In the financial year 2011, it had a turnover of S$522.4 million. The first Popular Bookstore was set up in 1936 by Chou Sing Chu in North Bridge Road, focusing on retailing Chinese books and stationery. In March 2006, Popular Holdings was the main organiser of BookFest@Singapore, the first Chinese-language book...

Bob

too bad that kmart doesn't have them anymore

Journeyman Geek

15:02

@jokerdino definately knows this ;p

:/

we don't have kmarts any more, not for ages

jokerdino

Popular, the costly book store.

Bob

> *Books Kinokuniya in Galeries Victoria [across from the QVB (Queen Victoria Building)] in Sydney has a few fountain pens. If you are a pen aficionado, you will also want to check out their amazing selection of other types of pens from Japan.

another one there?!

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: compared to?

@Bob: kinos are bloody awesome

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek the black market in India :P

Journeyman Geek

Especially since we lost our borders and page one.

jokerdino

15:03

and the illegal photocopies

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: grey market!

jokerdino

hehe

Bob

scratch what I said about a lack of pen stores

may as well be swimming in them

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: wierdly the main kino has a seriously cramped, tiny stationary section

lol

Bob

too bad nowhere really has cheap ones

maybe Daiso

Journeyman Geek

15:04

@Bob: You never know

Bob

@JourneymanGeek borders and page?

Journeyman Geek

I was a little suprised to find these at daiso

@Bob: bookstores

page one was a single local store run by a publisher

Bob

,,,I'm gonna have to drop into dymocks

Journeyman Geek

borders was a branch of the late american bookstore

it totally changed the bookstore scene here

jokerdino

Borders is no more.

Bob

15:05

come to think of it... why didn't I think of bookstores today

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@jokerdino our one got replaced by JB Hi-Fi...

wait, no.

that was Harvey Norman

Borders... I think it's a Kathmandu there now

jokerdino

Kathmandu what?

That's a city in Nepal.

Journeyman Geek

lol

probably also the name of a shop

Bob

camping supplies

o.o

there's another shop near my uni

Journeyman Geek

15:11

lol

jokerdino

stop it already.. -.-

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

There. Sheaffers for $15. Lamy Safaris for $34...

Al-Star is $41

saves shop for future reference

Journeyman Geek

lol

gee ;p

jokerdino

bookmark it

Journeyman Geek

15:16

lol

Bob

hrm. it's like 15 mins walk from uni gates

Bob

15:54

hrm

I have vague memories of walking past a Subway today.

Problem is, I have no idea where.

somequixotic

Bob

o.o

Journeyman Geek

lol

ruda.almeida

16:33

I wonder why @OliverSalzburg needs access to all my data on every website. Hmmm....

Maybe he's been recently hired by the NSA?

Bob

@ruda.almeida I have no idea what that says.

ruda.almeida

"The most recent version of 'Stack Exchange Chat Reply Helper' has been disabled because it need more permissions. Now it can: - access all your data on all websites - access all your tabs and navigation activity"

Screenshot taken on May 21st on Chrome

Bob

...

Canadian Luke

@ruda.almeida How'd you know that @OliverSalzburg was a spy? :P jk

ruda.almeida

@CanadianLuke "Was"? Did he quit? Or did he....?

Canadian Luke

16:39

He jus got caught when you accused him of being a spy :P

ruda.almeida

Poor Oliver. Gotta miss all that starred phrases on the rightside.

Also who's gonna update my spyware helper, I mean, Stack Exchange Reply helper?

Canadian Luke

I'll take over!

jk

ruda.almeida

If only we could inspect the code and check for spywares... If only we could fork the code... If only there was a site for it... Using GIT... A "hub" of some sort, I guess

github.com/oliversalzburg/se-chat-reply-highlight

(SSSSHHH don't let them know that we know!)

Oliver Salzburg

@ruda.almeida It's the Kango framework default.

ruda.almeida

@OliverSalzburg I was just kidding... >_<

I was cleaning old folders and stumbled upon this screenshot

Oliver Salzburg

16:55

I see :)

ruda.almeida

But maybe you could add a small disclaimer on the Chrome Store; just a suggestion

njallam

@JourneymanGeek @Bob I unplugged a few fans and peripherals and attached both connectors and it works. New power supply is on order.

tapped-out

17:23

Bob

?

tapped-out

what exactly is a "HSB HUB"? :P

Canadian Luke

Hi Speed Bus?

Bob

@tapped-out Typo? They obviously meant USB HSB.

tapped-out

i know i know :P

Oliver Salzburg

17:26

@ruda.almeida I would prefer to get the permissions limited :P Haven't really looked into it yet though

JohnMerlino

17:44

Does a background process take up any less resident memory than a foreground process?

Canadian Luke

@JohnMerlino Usually, depending how it's programmed. In a perfect world, it would just take up swap space, basically living on the hard drive, until it gets activated

JohnMerlino

@CanadianLuke does apache2 spawn its child processes as background proceses?

I can see the benefits of a background process when you are in the shell. It returns flow to the user after the user invokes the background process. But what benefit does background processes have for programs like apache2. I mean can't it spawn all its children as foreground processes rather than background processes and make no difference whatsoever

JohnMerlino