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12:10 AM
Indra didn't really flood anything
he's a pretty useless god. he's like Zeus with less mojo.
"Look! I am a normal human and your husband! Lets make love!"
"Uhm, you're floating. Go away. NOT MY HUSBAND"
sad god of lightning
 
roar
...welp. More fun with flashguns.
The thyristor auto mode (which controls flash output using a light sensor in the flashgun itself) is a lot faster than the normal TTL mode (where the flash fires a pre-flash prior to exposure and the camera's metering system uses it to determine the correct flash output when it actually takes the picture).
 
 
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3:46 AM
hello! advise me please. between i5-6600k + Gigabyte GA-Z170 SLI and i3-8100 + MSI H310-A PRO, what would you go for?
 
@Luyw what's your expected workload?
 
4:19 AM
Thank you rahuldottech!! I had been fussing with my code for several months on and off and tonight...I hit gold!! — Osprey 7 hours ago
:)
I wonder how they were able to comment with just 1 rep tho
 
 
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6:46 AM
@Luyw that's tough
 
7:45 AM
Damn... New RPi will do 2x 4k60fps
 
7:58 AM
@rahuldottech gaming mainly
@JourneymanGeek oh well :/
 
morning
 
Ave
lol
 
@Luyw You should probably take the i5 then
@JourneymanGeek I buy a raspi, and two weeks later they launch this: raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-from-35
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A 1.5GHz quad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72 CPU (~3× performance)
1GB, 2GB, or 4GB of LPDDR4 SDRAM
Full-throughput Gigabit Ethernet
Dual-band 802.11ac wireless networking
Bluetooth 5.0
Two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0 ports
Dual monitor support, at resolutions up to 4K
VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x
4Kp60 hardware decode of HEVC video
Complete compatibility with earlier Raspberry Pi products
USB-C for power!
Two micro HDMI
 
8:26 AM
@rahuldottech there was a comparison tool that showed benchmarks for different games, the i3 has the upper hand
I am not sure if I should trust it though
also using various tools, there was no consistent result, some say the i5 is better and the otheer prefer the i3
hence the confusion
 
@Luyw well they're roughly comparable chips
 
9:29 AM
Morning
Thunderstorm hasn't yet materialised here either
Awfy dreich tho
 
Why do my chrome notifications, not appear in the notifications bar in windows?
i'd be good if i could see the history of notifications.
@bertieb yeah it's been horrible for like a week now.
it's getting misty outside, kind of.
 
@djsmiley2k It was really hot and sunny here yesterday
But today we're getting our full quota of 8 oktas
My hayfever pollen sensitivity is trying to kill me
Not sure if a thunderstorm would help that
but at this stage I'm willing to try anything
A combination of antihistamine and caffeine does help
but, dammit Jim, it's not enough!
...might be rewatching TOS :D
 
"G-Sync and FreeSync introduce variable refresh rates. If your game is rendering at 40 frames per second, your display will update at 40 frames per second. If it starts rendering at 75 frames per second, your monitor will refresh at 75 frames per second."
 
I think I'm in love with ASUS
Both the zenfone and the zenbook are <3
 
@bertieb see, i've found really heavy rain helped mine, when it was bad
thankfully it's not atm
but I'm hearing that thunderstorms cause the pollen to literally shatter, making it worse? XD
 
9:37 AM
@bwDraco ok so tell me something
I'm looking to buy a laptop that I'm going to use for at least three or four years
But the 16gb model of the device I'm looking for is out of my budget
Do you think 8gb will be enough?
 
But what happens if FPS goes above monitor's 75Hz refresh rate?
 
No heavy gaming, occasional image editing, heavy web browsing, lots of programming, some RDP, maybe a VM or two. Main OS: win10.
 
10:13 AM
VM's? 8Gb? no.
I mean, you can run vm's
but things could get painful.
 
@djsmiley2k How about one single Ubuntu VM?
Okay actually lave the VM bit out I don't need that, I'll use a desktop for that
 
10:49 AM
I run a single gentoo vm on 8gb
but headless.
when your DSL errors so much, the error counter overflows :O
> Attainable Rate: 15224 kbits/s 888 kbits/s
Actual Power: 0.0 dBm 12.7 dBm
Total FECC: -269390510 48835
 
lol
colours are great, but computers don't know colours, they know statuses
if your 'check' for your raids is 'are the lights all the right colour?' you're doing it very very wrong already.
 
11:21 AM
@rahuldottech yes
 
@JourneymanGeek future proof? Till like 2023?
 
11:35 AM
@djsmiley2k cat /proc/mdstat
whenever I remember
clearly the right way to do RAID
;-P
md1 : active raid6 sdj[8] sdn[12] sdi[7] sdl[10] sdk[9] sdm[11] sdh1[3] sdf1[6] sde1[1] sdd1[5] sdc1[4] sdb1[0]
      29301340160 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [12/12] [UUUUUUUUUUUU]
      bitmap: 0/22 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk
 
11:47 AM
Argh god pseudo-intellectuals piss me off so much
 
@rahuldottech probably good enough
 
@JourneymanGeek hmmm. I don't feel very confident about that, man. Laptop I bought in '15 had 8 gigs. Now I'm buying one four years later and they still only have 8 gigs.
I know Bob explained that most users don't need much ram
still makes me feel... unsure
 
12:07 PM
yey the £7 survey paid through
@bertieb it's better than checking the LEDs
 
@djsmiley2k Fair point
 
@rahuldottech also if they've got a 2nd slot, then it's fair enough, you can upgrade later, but most laptops don't.
 
In this case there are no LEDs to check so it's much better ;-P
 
@bertieb infact that's my highest voted question ever.
 
Ah, yes
so it is
 
12:09 PM
38
Q: How to check 'mdadm' RAIDs while running?

djsmiley2kI'm starting to get a collection of computers at home and to support them I have my "server" linux box running a RAID array. Its currently mdadm RAID-1, going to RAID-5 once I have more drives (and then RAID-6 I'm hoping for). However I've heard various stories about data getting corrupted on on...

it's a semi famous answer, as I've seen people link to it on IRC and been like 'hey, I wrote that!'
errr question, not answer.
 
Heh, nice
I've done something like that on IRC
Linked to someone's site on hledger
Not noticing that there was a very similar username in the userlist/chat
 
12:35 PM
hmmm
why don't monitors have a brightness sensor like phones...
 
1:05 PM
Some do
But mainly cause you don't use it outdoors
 
1:32 PM
@djsmiley2k IIRC some professional displays do and it's to maintain color accuracy...
Raspberry Pi 4 announced: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/…
All new custom Broadcom BCM2711 SoC with 1.5 GHz Arm Cortex-A72, new memory options (1 GB, 2 GB, 4 GB), USB-C power and USB 3.0 support, two display outputs with 4K support, 802.11ac and Bluetooth 5.
Huh, even the microSD card slot has improved, with UHS-I SDR50 support (up to 50 MB/s).
 
Mmm, $35
Goodonya, Ebon Upton
 
1:49 PM
Actually, it's DDR50 (not too familiar with the UHS designations).
 
@JourneymanGeek heh
i'm sat by a window, and it's bright enough that I can tell a difference
/me ponders a esp with a light detector feeding data to something like f.lux
 
oh
There's an API for brightmess
 
Could use my raspi i guess
seems like over kill, but maybe it'd be a good thing
just need a camera, I have some old ones somewhere, which should also work fine :)
 
or just a LDR
 
2:12 PM
Aha!
There's the thunder
Ooo eck
That thunder
the crack of it
sounded close
 
2:51 PM
@djsmiley2k Could a[n HDMI] monitor's brightness setting be controlled via CEC?
I mean if it can turn on from standby, change channel
It would seem...not
 
@rahuldottech You probably still want 16 GB.
If you're running VMs alongside lots of web browsing, 8 GB is not going to be enough.
 
guys, still undecided on i5-6600k or i3-8100 for gaming :/
 
Any upgrade plans?
 
don't thnik so
i am asking for someone else so i'm presupposing no
 
@bertieb IT COMES.
 
3:03 PM
@djsmiley2k Yes
But more accurately it's come and gone
 
I'd probably lean towards the newer processor simply because it leaves open the possibility of an upgrade to 6 or 8 cores.
 
(er, so to speak)
 
Absolutely peed down from the sky for ten mins or so
Now it's clear
 
lol
 
3:04 PM
Yellow rain?
 
darksky.net shows lots of cloud on you
whereas over the last few days I've watched every single approaching storm avoid me and it makes me sad :(
 
@JourneymanGeek It took me a couple minutes after going "whoa" to realise I was trying to click on a gorram image to change brightness
 
It's important to remember the socket and desktop platform you're building on. With older motherboards and processors, you've got fewer choices for upgrading, and older processors can be hard to find. If you get a modern platform, you'll be able to upgrade for longer and you'll have more room to grow.
 
In related news: yes, I totally know my monitors' model numbers, honest
 
thank you Draco.
 
3:07 PM
I'm gonna go back to pretending that I know what I'm doing
 
it'd be windows 10 most probably, and the mobo is an MSI H310-A PRO
support 9th gen so
cpu can be upgraded to that
 
That's a pretty... spartan motherboard. Any better options within budget?
 
he's getting the build second hand :/
basically, it's that with 16 gb ram or another build with the i5 6600k + Gigabyte GA-Z170 SLI as a mobo but 8gb of ram
 
The i5-6600K and board will allow for overclocking. The i3-8100 and H310 board don't.
 
i know, but i don't think he'll do it
 
3:10 PM
This is a very difficult choice to make, even though I'd still lean towards the newer board and processor.
 
ikr x)
what'd u mean by spartan mobo though, i didn't understand
 
If you're not overclocking, this would make sense as an upgrade: newegg.com/p/N82E16819118024
@Luyw It's very basic.
 
(is it like an idiom? somethign which spartan?)
are mobos usually upgraded?
 
Replacing the processor takes a bit of finesse but isn't a very difficult job. There's a number of videos on YouTube which demonstrate how to replace the processor for a modern Intel socket.
 
thank you for your help anyways, i personally am biased towards the i5 build .. just because :v
 
3:19 PM
@Luyw Spartan in the sense of basic
2
Recalling the Greek city-state of the same name that favoured few luxuries
 
and wore even fewer clothes
@JourneymanGeek they usually call it "golden"... or so i am told... <.< >.>
 
 
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4:24 PM
 
4:59 PM
@bertieb it's soooooo hot
and the air is like 100% thicker today
 
 
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6:06 PM
So using my new Malduino, I have automated the initial BIOS setup for new computers. Big time saver when setting up a new lab
 
 
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7:09 PM
uhoh my hayfvers started
 
@djsmiley2k You're lucky. I've been suffering for several months.
 
7:48 PM
yup, i seem to only be effected by trees
 
8:02 PM
@djsmiley2k Yep, me too. But the Cherry trees were flowering a few months ago ...
 
 
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9:18 PM
0
Q: How to forward traffic from one machine to another with `pfctl`?

JBisAccording to various other related questions, I have gotten the following command echo " rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port 1234 -> 192.168.1.198 port 80 " | sudo pfctl -ef - However I get the following when telneting: $ telnet 127.0.0.1 1234 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to a...

Any help appreciated :)
 
9:53 PM
@djsmiley2k The rain hasn't really cleared the air as much as I'd been hoping for either, unfortunately :-\
 
 
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11:07 PM
@CanadianLuke ah cute
 
11:24 PM
Lmao cloudflare CEO throwing shade at Verizon on HN
 
Might explain the "hacks" attempted against my blog....
 
Hello everyone... can someone please tell me, would a software act faster and better if I just install it using .msi file? Or unzipping it and storing it on the hard disk and then using it from there is faster?
 
11:40 PM
@FarazDurrani if someone's shipping a piece of software as both a .zip with an executable and as an .msi, it's because it makes no real diffference - the only actual difference is likely to be that the .msi will appear in add/remove programs and have a desktop shortcut whereas the .zip version won't -- but that's far from guaranteed
some apps might have fewer features in the zip version due to lack of installation; some may require admin rights for the .msi but not for the zip; some may actually install the program from the .exe just like the msi
it depends entirely on the app and what it does; there's no real generalization that can be made
 
in terms of program loading faster and there is no slowness, both will achieve that?
I thought that, since a program will be installed on a computer, it will have an entry is the registry, meaning it will load faster and provide better performance generally
But if program is just sitting on a harddisk, then there is no registry for it and when you double click on the .exe file, it will take some time to load as OS has no prior knowledge of it.
 
@allquixotic FWIW I have a "Programs" folder in my home folder and put all my no-install programs there. Then I right-click on the executable and select "Pin to Start" so that there's a tile on my Start menu for quick access.
 
@FarazDurrani won't have a significant effect.
 
@FarazDurrani there's no basis for anything you're saying... registry lookups are nearly instantaneous because the registry is mostly cached in RAM anyway, and the program loading time is primarily determined by whether the program and data are in the page cache or not
and a program that isn't "installed" can still be in the page cache
 
@rahuldottech I will run have them on Raspberry Pi (don't worry about windows vs linux atm). So it will have a significant impact.
 
11:52 PM
@FarazDurrani you won't have registry entries on Linux
 
I just said don't worry about it
just assume the hardware is terrible.
 
tl;dr: it doesn't matter whether you install or just run the execuctables
 
ok thanks @rahuldottech
Thanks @allquixotic
 

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