Root Access

@djsmiley2k Be that as it may, as long as the new is valid when the people wake in the morning, and still broadcast via the morning news programs... Everyone's normal life would stop being normal.

FML Cat

Gmail just has a button when you log in "Problems with code?" - Yes! My phone's been factory reset four times since I last installed Google authenticator

Just click the button on the login page and it lets you send a code via SMS instead, which is so easy I've not even bothered setting up Authenticator again for months... I probably should

I really should figure out some form of 2fa for my RDP but eurgh. Laazzyyy. And lack of non-proprietary Microsoft support

Journeyman Geek

lol

funny thing is I have TFA on my steam account for one reason...

selling off steam cards ;p

(mostly during sales so I can collect a full set or two )

FML Cat

I have Steam Guard setup because it's mandatory now

Journeyman Geek

ya

also I'm more less doing everything off my jelly

if not for typing Its not that bad a secondary phone ;p

FML Cat

Although it's not terribly effective 2fa when my email uses the same password as severything else

Journeyman Geek

12:47 PM

ya, that's a thing

djsmiley2k

@FleetCommand If the people affected haven't woken due to the sirens, they maybe getting a very rude wake up shortly.

user226528

lol

FML Cat

Mind you the whole 2fa means if you have my Steam password and my Gmail password you still wouldn't get in as it'd require a code on my phone

The only reason my phone password isn't the same is because a PIN is easier to enter on a phone

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Well, W. Heath Robinson probably never had to choose between WebBrowserControl and Node.js.

FML Cat

If it had a password, it'd probably be the same password. Which is bad.

djsmiley2k

12:50 PM

y u use same password!

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k What's wrong with sourceforge?

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill ._.

they went full evil for a bit

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djsmiley2k

SourceForge

SourceForge is a Web-based service that offers software developers a centralized online location to control and manage free and open-source software projects. It provides a source code repository, bug tracking, mirroring of downloads for load balancing, a wiki for documentation, developer and user mailing lists, user-support forums, user-written reviews and ratings, a news bulletin, micro-blog for publishing project updates, and other features. SourceForge was one of the first to offer this service free of charge to open source projects. Since 2012 the website runs on Apache Allura software...

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k Because I've been too lazy to think of a new one and remember it for about fifteen years

djsmiley2k

never go full on evil.

FML Cat

12:51 PM

@djsmiley2k Like Google

djsmiley2k

well that link didn't work

@FMLCat Google aren't screwin with mah downloads.

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k Link worked, onebox didn't

djsmiley2k

they can have my datas, i give it freely

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k Google doesn't do full on evil

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek FFS they stopped that in 2015 SourceForge stops bundling ads into software without permission after GIMP fiasco | PCWorld ;)

djsmiley2k

12:53 PM

yeah and Nazi's stopped invading in 1949.

DavidPostill

It's only the mafia who hold grudges for that long ...

djsmiley2k

Doesn't mean i forget.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill I tend to hold grudges like that till they die of old age. Then have them stuffed.

DavidPostill

Your loss.

bertieb

Ooh, grudges! I still haven't forgiven Sony for the whole rootkit thing

djsmiley2k

12:55 PM

^_^

Journeyman Geek

eh,

djsmiley2k

I haven't forgiven Enron.

Journeyman Geek

I have one of their cameras ;p

however it actually has a standard SD card and takes good photos

user226528

@DavidPostill I am pretty sure Yakuza hold grudges for longer.

djsmiley2k

Also, God holds a grudge longer

bertieb

12:55 PM

@JourneymanGeek Sony using a widely-adopted standard? Since when!?~ :P

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb IKR?

It allegedly also does Memory stuck pro duo but I don't actually know where the slot is

and micro USB

semi non standard, but easy to obtain batteries

bertieb

Batteries I can forgive; everyone seems to roll their own

Journeyman Geek

but I chucked a 128gb card in mine

bertieb

I have three Canon DSLR cameras, with batteries common to two of them

Journeyman Geek

and I pretty much am just limited by battery life

if it would just charge and run at the same time, I'd just chuck a power bank on it ;p

bertieb

12:58 PM

Ah, nice

My uncle had one of Sony's mirrorless camera dealies and it's a decent camera

Journeyman Geek

Mine's a A5100

DavidPostill

> Hindu Dharma implores us to let go of grudges, resentment and especially self-contempt

bertieb

A friend of mine had one of their crop sensor things, I think

user226528

All religions do.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill I'm entirely aware I'm not a saint ;p

DavidPostill

12:59 PM

Forgiving Others Is Good for Your Health - Magazine Web Edition \> November 1997 - Publications - Hinduism Today Magazine

djsmiley2k

Thinking of companies as persona's is crazy.

Journeyman Geek

(of course, my mom's favourite saint has... a holy poker)

DavidPostill

lol

@djsmiley2k Companies are made up of people ...

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill at times I'm doubtful ;p

djsmiley2k

I don't hate the poor sods who have to work.

bertieb

1:02 PM

There's probably a distinction to be made between the emotional response, and the rational "take one's business elsewhere" response to a company's poor behaviour

I don't spend my days and nights cursing Sony and their firstborn, but I'd rather not reward misbehaviour by purchasing their products where possible

DavidPostill

@bertieb Yeah, one is "cutting off your nose to spite your face" and the other one is ... hmm

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill @bertieb I reserve the right to mock soundly

And I'd never do business with say, godaddy, but that's actually cause I'm very happy with my current domain name and hosting providers

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Haha, That's exactly what I'm doing to you ;)

djsmiley2k

oh lord, go daddy

and network solutions -_-;;;

bertieb

Ah, the elephant-shooting domain registration and hosting company you say

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Journeyman Geek

1:05 PM

(I do namecheap and online.net)

bertieb

NC got my business too after, er, 1and1

I might have had stuff with godaddy too, now that I think of it

Oh yeah!

Journeyman Geek

NC also runs my dad's email account + domain

DavidPostill

As an aside, every ISP, Bank and Energy Provider in the UK has extremely poor customer service and rips off their customers. I would love to boycott all of them but ...

bertieb

There was a mass move away from GD back in the day (2011), and so GoDaddy did the adult, sensible thing and blocked other registrars whois queries

DavidPostill

No internet, no money and no energy is not very appealing ...

Journeyman Geek

1:08 PM

@DavidPostill heh... funny thing is... ISPs in UK were so bad at one point that the VFX industry started their own

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill I have no problems with virgin media

but hey ho.

bertieb

@DavidPostill I've had very good (albeit limited) customer service with Zen :)

Heard good things about AAISP too, but they ain't cheap

(I hunted about for IPv6 providers back in the day)

Virgin emailed me to say that they had cabled up my flat (the one building on the whole busy road that wasn't cabled, going by the results of their online checker dealie) after I asked, so they got that going for them

OTOH, this was two weeks after I moved out...

I had the worst luck when it came to fibre broadband, I think I have possibly groused about it in here before

DavidPostill

When I get my own place I will see what happens ... ;)

bertieb

(Lived in a series of flats that were stuck on ADSL, including one on a street that was in the early rounds of Openreach's FTTC rollout)

@DavidPostill 🤞

(no idea if that will display for anyone else - u1f91e, fingers crossed)

djsmiley2k

it works here :D

bertieb

1:14 PM

@DavidPostill Are you hunting at the mo'?

Ah, cool- unprintable box here!

djsmiley2k

:D

DavidPostill

@bertieb Will be after I've worked for 6 months and passed probation ...

bertieb

Ah! Hope that goes smoothly and passes without incident :)

user226528

@DavidPostill O.o

Burgi

DavidPostill

1:25 PM

@Burgi That seems like an accurate reflection of your $company ;)

Burgi

i thought so too :)

djsmiley2k

i'm now untangling a huge box of network cables because we have none usable D:

I need a minion

2

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k How To Tie Knots For Cables and Cords You Only Need Occasionally | Apartment Therapy

djsmiley2k

these cables are so long I'd turn into hulk while winding around my hand lol

bertieb

I've a 30m CAT6 cable I'd be happy to sell you, collection only :P

djsmiley2k

1:35 PM

I need a few hundred

bertieb

Well, gotta start somewhere... :P

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k actually I used a similar method with forearms for longer cables, then wrapping it around itself

bertieb

(I bought three which it turned out I didn't need, have sold one, using another for something or other, trying to get rid of the third still)

user226528

Funny, but it seems the U.S.-side Wikipedia servers are not responding.

user226528

Well, at least from California, it seems Wikipedia is unreachable.

djsmiley2k

1:41 PM

@FleetCommand washed away

user226528

@djsmiley2k Well, you've officially frightened me. I am unable to establish any contact with our assets in Fremont, California.

user226528

Scratch that.

djsmiley2k

;)

user226528

I am able to VPN into the unloading dock's computer there.

Burgi

@FleetCommand doesn't mean they are alive

djsmiley2k

1:47 PM

isn't cali like 8 hours from the eqarthquake?

user226528

Well, that computer's web browser cannot contact Wikipedia either.

Burgi

slow news day: Shed on car | teletubbies actor dies

bertieb

I was just reading the shed one

Have holidayed near Newton Abott in the past

It's a nice area

(cool story bro)

Burgi

> It said that tsunami waves of less than one foot were expected in the town of Homer.

one foot doesn't seem so bad

DavidPostill

Tsunami Alert Is Downgraded Along Alaska's Coast After Powerful Quake : The Two-Way : NPR

user226528

1:55 PM

I contacted our people there and those cheeky bastards say there are in need of urgent help because (I quote) Zombies are breaking in from all directions.

4

DavidPostill

> "Chimes going off in Sitka, Alaska, as booming emergency voice sounds the all clear: 'Repeat. The tsunami warning has been canceled. It is safe to return to coastal areas.'

Burgi

@FleetCommand "Unable to replicate fault, closing ticket"

DavidPostill

Hawaii missile alert standdown delayed by forgotten log-in - BBC News

bertieb

@Burgi D'oh

user226528

@DavidPostill Yeah, a while ago, someone I know told me his car's nav system gave him a similar alert.

bertieb

2:18 PM

Am I right in thinking there's no way to get the status code of a page from within a userscript running in the context of that page?

This SO answer seems to say so, but that's in-page JS as opposed to a userscript

Other searches deal with status codes returned for AJAX requests, but that's not really what I'm looking for

This is not terribly critical as I can do what I want to do in other ways, but I'm curious

user226528

I am disgusted. I am disgusted. I am disgusted. Why don't people ever learn that whatever they see in the movies must stay in there?

user226528

@bertieb The accepted answer is correct. Without access to a web browser's frame/chrome, it is impossible.

bertieb

Okay cool, cheers!

FML Cat

@bertieb Userscript running in context of the page acts exactly the same as in-page JS

bertieb

2:34 PM

Ah fair enough, I wondered if it perhaps had access to slightly more as it was initiated via extension; but I guess security reasons are why it works like that?

Regardless, cheers for the info- TIL!

FML Cat

Not really - for all intents and purposes the extension just appends it to the bottom of the page

Bob

welp

so the train strike monday is probably going ahead

and thursday will likely run on saturday timetables (cause the union banned any more overtime, fair enough)

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k What did you say? You need a union? FIRED!!!

Burgi

2:59 PM

linux admin position in manchester, £40k

djsmiley2k

3:14 PM

go for it @Burgi

Burgi

not my skillset

Bob

3:28 PM

oof bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/…

damn game clients and their need to host services

brb firewalling it off

djsmiley2k

3:44 PM

well that's beautiful, well played blizzard, well played.

allquixotic

@Bob nice. I force-killed Agent.exe

Bob

@allquixotic I feel like as a mitigation browsers should probably prevent XHRs to localhost (interface/subnet) from any non-local origin regardless of domain name.

Or at least make it a permission prompt.

Not for this specific case, even, but just as a general good idea.

allquixotic

@Bob that sounds like a good idea, but would probably break a lot of legitimate stuff

being able to XHR to localhost is super useful for, like, web apps for drivers (hello, Adaptec)

I guess it depends on the design but I'm sure there's other stuff out there that does it

Burgi

fucking brilliant.... my FE has not built any of the product or case study pages

and because of his idiocy there is no CMS to populate these pages

so i'm going to have to make 100 fracking static pages

bwDraco

New SSDs! anandtech.com/show/12347/…

bertieb

3:58 PM

@Burgi Can you template around that? Compile something using m4 or such?

DavidPostill

@Burgi FE?

Burgi

@DavidPostill ~~Fracking Eejit~~ Front End

@bertieb the point is he said he was done

bertieb

My brain is only supplying 'Fallen Empire' for FE, which is a sign I've been playing too much Stellaris recently...

Ah yeah, people not doing their jobs is great fun :-\

Burgi

he also told the project manager that we didn't need a CMS and it would be quicker to build everything statically

bertieb

(side note: when did Android start translating :-/ to a happy smiley? I keep forgetting to use a backslash)

Bob

4:12 PM

@bertieb uhhh... never?

:-/ not seeing it in Firefox Android

bertieb

Maybe it's the :-| one?

Bob

@allquixotic That's what the permission prompt would be for.

@allquixotic But even then you shouldn't need to do that from a remote origin..?

It could just as well be a locally hosted webapp and therefore a local origin making the local request.

djsmiley2k

@Burgi drop him in it

allquixotic

@Bob you'd be surprised; Adaptec's web server is localhost, but some are starting to do remote server / local hardware, like Netgear Arlo.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k i have

allquixotic

4:17 PM

to manage my local Netgear Arlo equipment, I login to arlo.netgear.com

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, no. !!no. Nawp.

That's horrid.

djsmiley2k

> Ok this is going to sounds crazy but the dishwasher smells like jack daniels

my wife ^^

Bob

Basically means in 5 years when Netgear abandons it your local equipment stops working.

Also a glaring security hole.

If anything, browser vendors making this kind of behaviour harder would be a good thing.

If your local management interface decides it needs a remote connection, ok. We've burned that bridge already.

If it really needs an external connection in, host a proper secured service and be explicit about it.

None of this BS through the browser and local XHRs.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k did your wife spill jack daniels into the washing machine?

Bob

@bwDraco Still waiting for the price drop :P

djsmiley2k

4:22 PM

@Burgi she claims not to have

Bob

@allquixotic Sadly, I'm more disappointed than actually surprised.

Burgi

4:34 PM

@djsmiley2k is she upright?

djsmiley2k

;)

allquixotic

@Bob interesting concept, but I'm not sure that's how that's gonna go... it's a really popular product and is on its second generation, and has had multiple product launches: pro, non-pro, Arlo Q, Arlo 2, Arlo 2 Pro, etc.

would be nice to get a commitment out of them, though, I suppose

or at least have them release a firmware update and a localhost server to manage and view the cameras when they shut down

djsmiley2k

but then you won't buy the new version!

Bob

4:56 PM

@allquixotic these things just don't have a good track record

bwDraco

@Bob I seriously need to learn JS.

(and HTML5, and CSS, and jQuery, ...)

Burgi

don't learn CSS, learn SASS or LESS

Bob

5:18 PM

@Burgi SASS and LESS without CSS knowledge is... bad

Burgi

why do you think that?

Bob

it's like people familiar with jquery but no idea what to do when faced with raw js (or any other framework, mind)

DavidPostill

@Burgi Don't you still need an understanding of CSS? SAAS and LESS are just preprocessor's no?

Burgi

true

Bob

@DavidPostill you'd also have a hell of a time debugging anything

DavidPostill

5:20 PM

It's like trying to write c code using only the preprocessor and not understanding c :)

@Bob Very true

Bob

more or less

SASS is basically a pile of macros

DavidPostill

ha. I saw what you did there. Nice pun.

Bob

(totally intended. *cough*)

Burgi

you make fair points, i have no counter-argument

djsmiley2k

5:36 PM

0852

.2

bwDraco

5:51 PM

meow

djsmiley2k

was actually 2.1

DavidPostill

meep

bwDraco

6:16 PM

Yet another crash on the netbook. Wretched QCA network driver is to blame again.

Probably caused by : Qcamain10x64.sys ( Qcamain10x64+117c43 )

bwDraco

6:48 PM

tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-860-pro-ssd-review,5434.html

SATA SSD with 64-layer 3D MLC NAND. Perhaps this will be the last drive of its kind?

The 860 PRO is a halo product targeting a small niche and will only be made in limited quantities. The 860 EVO will take the place of the 850 EVO, which has been the gold standard for SATA SSDs for the last three years.

allquixotic

7:14 PM

still expensive as all hell. where's the $300 for 4 TB plz

bwDraco

Yeah. $1400 for the 4 TB 860 EVO.

But it's nice to see that Samsung is still making mSATA SSDs, which some systems still need.

And that they're still committed to making MLC NAND, even as the market completes its transition to TLC and is starting to move to QLC.

djsmiley2k

7:48 PM

hmmm

PSN is partially broken, and it seems to be effecting rocket leagues match making too :(

3 matches so far failed to get going :(

bwDraco

8:02 PM

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/…

A separate process is issuing the rendering draw calls?

(already updated on Astaroth and Bifrons but my Android devices have not received the update)

Michael Frank

8:51 PM

> example.com is not responding. Reload webpage?

...Yes.

Entire browser crashes. :|

djsmiley2k

which browser?

Michael Frank

IE11

djsmiley2k

well i can see your problem.

DavidPostill

9:18 PM

splorf

> A dozen beasts have been disqualified from this year’s Saudi “camel beauty contest” because their handlers used Botox to make them more handsome.

“The camel,” explained the chief judge of the show, Fawzan al-Madi, “is a symbol of Saudi Arabia. We used to preserve it out of necessity, now we preserve it as a pastime.”

Michael Frank

Uhh...

bwDraco

Mar 11 '17 at 17:53, by bwDraco

@Mokubai Many legacy corporate Web applications are designed with the assumption that IE is the only browser used to access them (to reduce development and support costs).

Oct 4 '16 at 22:19, by bwDraco

Because it's proven to work with the specific applications in question. Any change risks something failing, even if the new browser is more secure/faster/more stable/etc.

Oct 4 '16 at 22:20, by bwDraco

Moving to a new browser could, in some cases, require a total rewrite of entire web applications, with all the costs that doing so entails.

Updating legacy web applications... is an extremely hard problem.

Not only do you need to spend time and money replacing a solution which already works, you need to spend time and money to retrain employees to use the new solution. Furthermore, because the new solution may not have been as thoroughly tested, it's more likely to fail than the existing solution. It also dramatically increases the burden on IT support, which is often already a massive money sink in larger businesses. Updating legacy enterprise web applications is not a trivial task.

Canadian Luke

9:40 PM

@bwDraco It's an easy task if it's a "Hello World!" app :-P

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco the joys of technical debt

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Michael Frank

9:57 PM

Hmm... Google getting into audiobooks? A bit late, I think.

Bob

11:04 PM

hi

@bwDraco Those are all excuses commonly used to put off upgrades ... which just makes upgrading harder. In the meantime, your poor helpdesk needs to deal with maintaining the legacy system, which is often worse (and more costly) than the upgrade.

'course, that differs case-by-case, but if you're running legacy systems with no proper maintenance or support it's time to look at switching before everything falls apart around you.

bwDraco

11:15 PM

It's a dilemma. You realize a massive systems upgrade is needed but it's absurdly expensive and time-consuming to do and the existing system works just fine right now.

Bob

@bwDraco It seems to work just fine when your vision extends as far as the monthly bill.

Journeyman Geek

11:31 PM

There's no real dilemma ;p

It's seen as a cost by folks who don't get it

bwDraco

I mean, you could have a separate team work on a next-generation platform while the existing team maintains the existing solution.

It need not be one big rollout.

Journeyman Geek

oh damnit. My room's giving me dust allergy

I think someone tried to sweep it

FML Cat

11:52 PM

Damn hoomins

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