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12:14 AM
hmmm... a neighbour has a tv on loud
 
Bob
12:26 AM
@JourneymanGeek this one seems to have skipped the DOID stage entirely :P
It won't even detect to get a SMART reading off it
welp, no data recovery from this one
and it's the last of my 2011 Seagates... 6 years isn't so bad
 
:(
 
12:42 AM
@Bob that is common. Smart failures not fixing themselves is to. DOIDy multiple reincarnations....
 
Bob
lol
I'd restore from backup, but... this kinda is was my backup drive
So now I've lost like 80% of my backups, including all my recent (unarchived) ones
Now I'm debating moving backups directly to an external (which I'd have to keep attached...) or buying a new internal just for backups
@JourneymanGeek was a bit unexpected
 
NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH....
unexpectedly, I cannot think of a suitable word that rhymes with inquisition.
lol
One is none...
;p
I use a (cheap) nas, and image it over to an internal drive
hm, what port is RDP?
 
Bob
12:58 AM
@JourneymanGeek 3389 default
443 if you use the gateway
@JourneymanGeek eh, depends on the level of data... most important is floating somewhere over at onedrive, less important gets single dailies... the full images are too big, so they only happen monthly. those usually get archived, though I think I missed last month's.
I still have all my archived stuff. just the first backup destination is gone :P
 
hm, I thiiiink my ISP blocks it. Erf
I do daily incrementals, backed up daily
I sling around a shitload of data daily
I'm kinda tempted by those mesh networking rigs but faaaaaar too expensive
 
1:32 AM
I also ought to buy a boat set up a VPN
but putting it off till I do the pfsense build I'm also tempted by but don't want to spend the money on yet
 
1:43 AM
heh. There's a SR humble bundle.
Its probably a great buy for anyone who wants to be mildly traumatised in the most fun way possible
 
saints row?
 
 
2 hours later…
3:43 AM
what was so traumatic about it
 
3:59 AM
Hm. Ask @Bob.
 
is it the bat
 
Bob
I got toileted
 
that's not traumatic
 
Bob
"mildly"
 
Pony races? Neeeeigh.
 
Bob
4:09 AM
@JourneymanGeek ...thanks for the reminder :P
 
4:21 AM
I aim to please.
whoo. I can remote into my windows server from work
ODDLY it seems more responsive over RDP (over wan) than VMM (on the same box)
 
Bob
4:46 AM
@JourneymanGeek not odd... RDP is awesome
@JourneymanGeek lol. set up remote desktop gateway so you have 443
 
@Bob but but... ON THE SAME BOX
@Bob could, but 443 is certainly blocked...
turns out I forgot to port forward to CRDed from my phone to open up ports on my router....
 
 
1 hour later…
5:53 AM
@JourneymanGeek requisition?
 
Bob
6:11 AM
@JourneymanGeek Do you remember if Toshiba HDDs were any good?
 
6:38 AM
@Bob fwiw I don't remember them as being bad
And I think they were the main supplier for PS3's as well
I just stay away from 'Samsung' branded spinning disks tbh
 
OMG U FOOLS
It was @JourneymanGeek's birthday yesterday
@JourneymanGeek HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
7
 
6:57 AM
:O
awesomeness
every morning my machine looses the pac file setting
 
7:11 AM
hmmm
HP Probook 450 G3 that keeps 'loosing' the ethernet card
as in it'll reboot, and the card simply isn't on/there anymore
 
7:41 AM
it exists in the OS, but doesn't seem to pick up the fact a cable is connected at all
ideas welcome
 
7:59 AM
morning
its a glorious english summer day
 
user226528
@Burgi Hi.
 
@Burgi lol. raining in personchester as well?
 
@DavidPostill yes
 
No rain here :O
Living in a ditch has it's advantages I guess? XD
 
@Rahul2001 lol
Yes it was :p
@Bob their externals are ok. Not used anything else lately
 
8:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Sorry, mum had taken away PC by the time that I remembered
 
they are planning to ban all Internal Combustion Engine cars by 2040... this seems a mammoth task
 
Is it not banning of sale of new ones?
 
Wait, did I miss something? Why isn't the chatroom flooded with birthday love? -_+
 
@djsmiley2k yeah but still...
 
@Burgi oh yeah it's huge
but it's amazing too
I think we'll still have some people holding on, in 100 years...
 
8:12 AM
we need more nuclear power stations to cope with 40 million electric cars
 
eventually petrol and diesel will become hard to come by.
@Burgi well, yeah
wind too,
 
wind is crap
 
wait, if we don't want immigrants ocming, why not surround the whole of the UK with wave machines ;D
 
lol
 
@Burgi :D source?
This will at least drive more research into battery tech (tbh I can't see that making massive jumps any time sooon) and into power generation on the small scale.
 
8:14 AM
its HGVs i wonder about, how would they work as electric vehicles?
 
Buses work...
Trains work
 
the solution is hydrogen fuel cells obviously
 
I know they are both 'different' but.... automatic electric trucks that drive themselves?
 
buses and trains are diesel hybrids
 
automatically fill up at stations every 20 or so miles...
 
8:15 AM
@Rahul2001 oh it's fine. I've had quite a few for an old dog :p
 
(have stations every 20 miles, not fill up every 20).
@JourneymanGeek HB.
 
Thanks :p
 
wait its your birthday?
Happy Birthday @JourneymanGeek!!!
how old are you in human years?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Whoops. Happy birthday!
 
8:18 AM
Oh thanks, now it's raining
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I went with Seagate again :P
The new Barracuda (ST4000DM005) -- 7200 RPM 4 TB, just ordered two of em
Eh, if it fails it fails.
 
tries to load driver site for the 450 G3, ethernet dies again, gaaah!!!! KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!!
 
8:33 AM
HP, why you so fail
everyone on google is like 'The HP driver fails!!!'
I notice... HP driver lists version '10.10'....
checks realtek site, version 10.10...., is the windows 10 version of the driver
 
@JourneymanGeek Happy birthyesterday :)
 
@Burgi 34 I think. Was born in 83
 
welcome to your mid-30s :|
 
That's like 200 dog years
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Race of Destiny - Bare Infinity 🎶
 
Yea, doesn't really answer the question, and links to a dubious looking website.
Or, it does answer the question... just confusingly?
 
...
need someone to test ;D
I'd remove the link, then check the answer again
 
@Rahul2001 @ me when you wake up
 
sigh
took a really close look at the network port...
 
@MichaelFrank It claims it is fixed by an update. So it does try and answer the question.
 
8:52 AM
Hm. I'm actually not sure. Lacks a lot of the usual tells
 
that last pin :/
@JourneymanGeek 1. Remove the link, it's no longer even possible spam. 2. if someone can verify the solution, we can confirm the user is useful.
 
Okay, so the answer is accurate.
I have OneNote v17 and I do indeed have a "Hide spelling errors" option.
 
Remove the seemingly pointless link.
 
Fixed, and made it easier to read.
Also linked to the MS App Store page for Onenote App for Windows 10.
I wonder if we can perhaps finagle the question into a broader scope?

How to disable spellcheck in *any* version of OneNote?
 
9:08 AM
do not change the questioners question, and that IS for any version, the answer is '1. Upgrade, 2. Disable it'
 
@djsmiley2k No, it's for the OneNote App for Windows 10 specifically.
 
Is this an external keyboard? If not, try an external keyboard. Otherwise, See you in 2040djsmiley2k 23 secs ago
couldn't help myself.
 
Not for Office OneNote
 
@MichaelFrank ah ok
 
9:30 AM
@ave hello
Just got back from school
 
@Rahul2001 are you able to get online on telegram?
 
@Avery yep
 
Bob
9:48 AM
@djsmiley2k which pixel is wrong?
 
ffs...
 
@Bob :D
the 8th pin... is.... well, gone
XD
It's only obvious once you're looking for it, tbh
 
10:10 AM
i updated customer services on a project last night at 1730 and first thing this morning they are asking me for another update
wtf do they think has happened between leaving last night and coming in this morning?
 
10:23 AM
You mean you didn't work all night on it?
I'm shocked!
 
@Burgi lol
@Burgi sounds more like the hand doesn't know wtf the other is doing(or asking)
 
they just refuse to look at the ticket system
 
just send them a link to that
'All updates can be viewed at...'
 
they get email notifications when there is an update posted on the ticket and that has a link on it
 
10:33 AM
Am I being to mean with the last two comments on my answer on this question?
But Burgi that would require clicking?
 
@Seth never.
User's name is 'how2play', doesn't want to actually play.
 
I mean I might be a snob in that case because it's so obvious for me what to do (create a single variable and pass it to two places) but it really feels like that person hasn't done any sort of "playing" or even understood what they did. Ah~ I guess I should take a break from commenting...
 
@Burgi I get hundreds of those a day. If someone was giving me attitude because I talked to them instead of searching the information from those mails, I'd put live snails into their coffee
 
@OliverSalzburg this isn't the first time they've asked for an update that was already in the ticket system
also you are are the boss, the rules are different for you
 
Yeah, but the situation is very common nonetheless. Developers thinking that other department could "easily get the information from XYZ"
I personally find that to often be unfounded. Different departments use different tools. Just help each other do the best job everyone can
Or maybe your colleagues are lazy bums, I dunno ;D
 
Bob
10:51 AM
@OliverSalzburg And from the other side... I could go digging, but maaaaaybe I should ask the admin responsible for the network before doing dodgy things. 'course, then I have to tell them how to look up the info they should know (or know how to find) -_-
 
There are many times where I could spend 10 minutes searching or 2 minutes on the phone. I know I like my concentration, but expecting everyone to work 5x as much, just because I refuse to communicate with them for the "do it yourself" reason, that's not cool
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Also, while human memory isn't great, humans make very good pattern matchers.
"Hey, do you remember that thing where ..." is much more likely to work than dumping a bunch of terms into JIRA search
 
@Seth I feel you're right, and their attitude stinks.
 
Bob
doesn't help that JIRA search sucks...
 
@Bob Good point
 
10:57 AM
@OliverSalzburg As someone who sometimes needs to create huge mind maps of situations.... having a phone call for an 'update' on something which is already published and easily accessible would cause much grievance. Now, if something was on fire and they needed to ask me if I'd set it on fire that's fine.
@OliverSalzburg Opening the link in the email they already have, vs chasing @Burgi
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k Oh, unsolicited phone calls are annoying. That's what text chat (or email) is for!
 
One is simple, and accomplished by something easy.
 
Bob
Phone is for urgent or when both agree that text won't work.
Text is for unurgent quick questions
 
The other takes the same? amount of time, disturbs someone else, and someone else might not even be there/have the time to respond coherently.
Also, this ;D
Lol, I've gone from Conserv. Adverts, to LinkedIn adverts
both equally pointless.
 
11:30 AM
@Bob last time we had talk about having a chat program that would also allow you to set a status (free/busy) the response was that we don't need such a thing. After all you can just call someone to ask whenever they have time for you. :|
Clash of generations I guess.
(and also positions)
 
11:46 AM
We have a pretty good prefer-IM-based communication actually
Funny enough, it's the developers who have a hard time sticking to it. Because they always need to share that funny new bug they just found with the entire team
 
I do see a turn here in the foreseeable future as well as more of the older people (yes it's a stereotype) leave for retirement.
 
Young people also have a tendency to stick with what they know. It's just that "what they know" is new shit
They don't understand why you need something like Lync when WhatsApp is so awesome
 
But that's Skype for Business now!
 
Yes, but that's a lot to type :P
 
But yeha, probably true.
Hey you can even switch the Lync Client to the SfB/S4B interface and the EventLog for that Software is still called Lync. So it's probably still Lync. :D
 
11:51 AM
Pretty sure the only thing Skype and Skype for Business have in common is their name
 
SfB is the worst
Whatsapp sucks though.
So does Slack.
I feel like something like rocketchat or discord if you're less serious would be better.
 
I have/had a Matrix homeserver I run which I like...
I need to get it working again
 
@Avery We use SfB for company-wide communication and Mattermost for developer chat
But we also have a WhatsApp group for memeing while out of the office
 
WA is good for memes
and terrible for anything else
 
Actually I kinda like it. The web client works great. Copy & paste of images works right
 
12:00 PM
I head that the Telegram (?) web client is way better because you don't need to connect your phone (indeed a great benefit).
 
work runs on whatsapp
it annoys me so much
 
@Seth Doesn't matter because nobody relevant uses it :P
 
As far as Skype and Skype for Business goes it does have some things in common. You actually can interconnect them from what I know. In addition it has a lot of nice enterprise features like call in conference and such. But other than that ... yeha it can be a nightmare.
I know. But hey it's a plus for them! Well I'm not using it either...
 
@Seth Microsoft fakes that through a proxy service
But, yeah, better than nothing :P
 
What the call in? They still offer it and it's nice feature to have. Even if it's "fake" I haven't really seen other solutions that offer it as part of the regular setup.
 
12:03 PM
The amount of different solutions is what is most annoying. I was happy with IRC/ICQ
People are constantly rolling out new shit with less features that becomes more popular
And I end up with 10 messengers per 9 people to talk to
Like, some people require 2 messengers to receive full coverage
 
IRC would be so nice. Every account just gets a SSO bouncer. :D
 
This drives me nuts about SfB
Clicking in that area does not focus the input box
 
@Seth Leaving them more time to use the internet and modern tech if they are so inclined :)
 
12:19 PM
You could even have an idle RPG (that's what IRC is for after all)...
 
@Avery and this is why we have IRC.
 
I miss when IRC was Hopping
 
....
Why everyone feels they need to create their own messaging eco system :()
 
Most of my spaces are kinda dead
 
12:21 PM
Instead just add features on top of something open
 
@djsmiley2k XMPP was supposed to be it
buuuut yeah
 
yah, but it wasn't good, or something
I'm not sure @Avery see's the irony...
 
naw, it was fine
it was the backend for a lot of common things
even facebook chat and google
 
yah
but everyone moved away from it, and so I presume there was something
it even had end to end encryption, before 90% of the world knew wtf that was.
 
xmpp is pretty good
 
12:23 PM
Skype for Business supports XMPP Federation in some form.
 
yeah cept it can't connect to any other servers.
that's like saying that North Korea supports https!
sure they do, only within North Korea tho
 
Well I didn't extensively look into it, that's true. :)
XMPP really only lacked good front ends (IMO) and after the big networks using it (FB, Google etc.) closed their gates to retain their customers it just kind of silently died. Well jabber.ccc.de is still a thing I believe.
 
yeah....
@JourneymanGeek What happens when it goes down?
This is the 'amusing' thing about businesses using tools like this
 
@djsmiley2k presumably panic
 
I remember when my old place said they were setting skype as the business standard comms tool (they were a telecomms company, and we had offices in aus, asia, za, etc, so it kind of made sense to have something with video calling, and it was years ago)
the day that went down, was helarious
I setup a IRC server for the devs
we carried on as normal while the sales guys lost their $h%^.
'Why is skype down!!!! FIX IT NOW!!!!!!11on1oneoneone'
 
12:32 PM
If it went down they probably didn't have enough redundancy! Recently MS botched their own upgrade though...
 
erm, how do you suggest I do that, oh clever sales droid?
 
I have that O365 admin app installed and I get a downtime warning for SharePoint and Skype every week
 
@OliverSalzburg Indeed
it actually used to be a lot better...
 
My personal guess is that a lot of great OSS projects are actually not as successful as they could be because GUIs are hard.
 
Maybe MS is just more honest with their reporting, but I don't see this volume of reports with other services I use
@Seth Pf! A GUI! Real users will just import libchat.so and that's interface enough
 
12:35 PM
Pfffttt
I stabbed jumper cables to my brain, attached to an arduino, I chat with my brain waves.
 
Did you include an emergency off switch?
 
oh nope
I handle that with a gun
 
I just can't stop thinking about a recording of a robotics talk I recently watched and the speaker suggested rather strongly that it was a good idea to put a emergency off button on the robot and remote. Because apparently it's not fun to chase several kilos of metal to make them stop what they're doing ... I wonder how well a gun would work for that. I guess you'd have to be quite good at aiming.
 
12:54 PM
I am very likely going to get an nfc implant
So yeah tldr I like trouble
So no emergency off
 
@Avery Which you can buy from a website called Dangerous Things ... :/
 
I am aware
That's the site I plan to use
 
@Avery Oh, so you really want to embrace corporations tracking and spying on you and your data, I see
 

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