Root Access

Bob

12:24 AM

morn

Ben N

Hi!

bwDraco

1:08 AM

Picking a graphics card: Get the reference GTX 1080 (the NVIDIA-branded one no less at the local Best Buy, $550 + tax), or an aftermarket card (EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 GAMING iCX, nearly same effective price via Newegg)?

The reference card has the advantage of local availability and is easier to upgrade to a waterblock for custom liquid cooling, but is slower and noisier in its default configuration.

Michael Frank

It can't be noisier if it has a waterblock on it...

bwDraco

One of the big questions is, "do I want to upgrade to a fully-custom loop at some point in the future?" The reference card leaves the door open for the use of EKWB aluminum Fluid Gaming kits, while the iCX card does not (at least at this time). Hence, the former would allow for a far less costly upgrade to custom liquid cooling.

Current build plans call for a CPU closed-loop liquid cooler.

For reference, this is the EK liquid cooling kit in question, on Newegg: EK-KIT A240G

djsmiley2k

5:53 AM

ffs

this machine is now forgetting the proxy settings every 4 hours or so

Journeyman Geek

6:14 AM

Oo

djsmiley2k

and my god I'm so tired.

:/

having a lil' nap at my desk

Journeyman Geek

I just wandered off work to buy a hammer

djsmiley2k

lol

/me sings 'if I had a hammer

Bob

6:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek Are there many nails at work?

djsmiley2k

7:15 AM

I dunno about nails, but there's some things here that need hitting.

DavidPostill

7:29 AM

@Ramhound I would be tempted to ask magicandre1981 to write a canonical question and answer about analysing dmp files, and then closing these as dupes of the canonical. I've left a comment for him.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob now there are.

djsmiley2k

7:55 AM

lol

Burgi

morning

djsmiley2k

morning

so tired this morning :/

maybe I need to adjust my mask or something, I'm not sleeping right ;/

Burgi

your mask?

i went to bed at 8pm, slept all the way through to 730 this morning. i feel great :)

Oliver Salzburg

8:15 AM

Ugh major hard disk failure at a client's site O_o

System performance is so degraded it takes like 20 minutes to open the controller UI

Burgi

did their monitoring not indicate a problem prior to failure?

Oliver Salzburg

It did. I got several mails throughout the night

But that is when I sleep

And the drive is not dead, so the controller did not mark it as failed. So it is left in the array, dragging everything down with it

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Have you tried blackout curtains/blinds?

djsmiley2k

hmmm this is sleeping at night

Burgi

@OliverSalzburg you need a 24 hour service desk!

djsmiley2k

8:20 AM

i have sleep apnoea

Burgi

is the mask an oxygen mask?

djsmiley2k

no

just air pressure

i'd rather not explode the house (air pressure masks deliberately release air depending on the pressure...)

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Ah. I thought you were referring to an eye mask :/

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi Yeah, but those cost money :(

djsmiley2k

@OliverSalzburg While I can't not cost money

Burgi

8:21 AM

@djsmiley2k but it goes over the mouth and nose?

djsmiley2k

I can.... tell you about us :D

@Burgi yup

Burgi

@OliverSalzburg are you customers not willing to foot the bill? ;)

Rahul2001

I TOPPED ENGLISH YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY

And computer science exam went AMAZINGG

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi Well, these issues are extremely rare. Having someone on the team for emergencies like that and who is capable of solving these issues would easily be 60k/year

And, well, you'd have to find someone willing to take a 60k/salary for doing pretty much nothing at all all year

And who would want to do that? Right?

Rahul2001

@BenN oooh cool!

Burgi

8:25 AM

@OliverSalzburg looks at @DavidPostill

DavidPostill

@Burgi "who is capable of solving these issues" would be a bit of a problem ...

djsmiley2k

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Congrats :)

djsmiley2k

Not sure why I look so jaundice in that pic tho lol

@Rahul2001 ZING!

@OliverSalzburg 60k to go to a DC/Client site, and remove a bad disk from a raid array?

CAN I WORK FOR YOU PLZ?

our ops team on 25k are expected to do this

yes there's 8 of them,

0

Q: Postgresql 9.6 over BTRFS. Good or bad idea?

I'm just preparing a VM machine (running onver Proxmox) to run a postgresql 9.6 over a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. This postgres would be used to handle Jira/FisheEye/Confluence databases for a small company. Usually we are a few user at same time, so we not need to tune it for extreme performance/scalabil...

Opinion? Software-rec?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Borderline both, I think. It could do with some rewording, but I'm not sure what.

djsmiley2k

8:30 AM

How to anaylise postgresql trends on Btrfs or something

Burgi

@djsmiley2k you don't look very happy in that pic

djsmiley2k

very tired at the time

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Usually you're not told in advance what the issue is

And you have to make critical decisions while no other staff is on site. Decisions that could have serious impact on the whole operation

Which is also why I have to take care of this client and not one of our guys :P

djsmiley2k

8:47 AM

@OliverSalzburg So you're paid 60k?

then you should wake up when your phone buzzes in the middle of the night.

or have someone on call, who phones you, until you wake up

@OliverSalzburg Also I know of this fun, I've done 24/7 support, been up all night because others have screwed up, etc.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k i think he is on more than that as he owns the company...

djsmiley2k

nice, nice

never been on £60k tho

Where's the DC located? If it was close maybe I can help hahaha

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k My salary is not a point of discussion ;D

Also the server just BSODd

Could be more fun ahead

Burgi

tbh i thought the german minimum wage was 40k...

Oliver Salzburg

It's also not a DC, it's a Hyper-V host. So several services are down

djsmiley2k

8:52 AM

joys

I meant a datacenter

Oliver Salzburg

Oh :D

djsmiley2k

Anyway I'm up for on demand linux sysadmining ;d

So if you're ever desperate at 3am ;D

Wait

your alerting didn't tell you a disk was being slow?

Oliver Salzburg

The controller reports block read errors from which it recovers. Those are an indicator that a drive is about to fail

djsmiley2k

nod

yey another client running XP machines \o/

Oliver Salzburg

And those only started happening tonight, otherwise I would have looked into it

djsmiley2k

8:57 AM

and yey people not providing the full infomation the first, or second time i ask them

Oliver Salzburg

I'm fearing a defective controller though :(

djsmiley2k

and then I pass said infomation onto a 3rd party, and they comment on the ticket saying 'this is incorrect, blah blah blah'.

Well that's why I asked you.... and asked you again....

Burgi

@OliverSalzburg they are happening tonight? that is efficient!

djsmiley2k

@OliverSalzburg battery backed? unlikely, but I see so many dodgy batteries...

unlikely to be related I mean

Oliver Salzburg

After the reboot, everything seems more stable

djsmiley2k

9:08 AM

it's a trap!

Oliver Salzburg

Well, I had marked the degraded drive as failed. So the controller started to rebuild with a hot spare. Someone on-site replaced the degraded drive and the system froze

djsmiley2k

ew?

Oliver Salzburg

Good to have RAID to reduce downtime! :P

djsmiley2k

what hardwae is this....

i need to make a note never to use it

Oliver Salzburg

The controller is an Adaptec 6805

And Seagate drives. I don't have to mention to stay away from those

And please don't give me the "I've never had issues with Seagate" talk :P

Bob

9:18 AM

@OliverSalzburg I would have said that half a year ago :P

granted, at 6+ years, they've lasted as long as I can expect

Oliver Salzburg

This client takes recycling very seriously. They have bin for waste, one for plastics, one for paper, one for biodegradable stuff and one for Seagate drives

Of course I'm joking, but Seagate drives are a never ending stream of failures :P

djsmiley2k

I saw the same thing with Samsung drives

which I believe maybe rebranded seagates tbh

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg what about WD?

> The owner of this website (offbeat.topix.com) has banned the country or region your IP address is in (IN) from accessing this website.

Wtf

Avery

9:36 AM

heey @rahul can you get online on telegram?

Oliver Salzburg

@Rahul2001 Not sure. The only drives that are failing for us are Seagates. But, of course, they are always replaced with drives from the same batch

But it's the same story with all our clients and our own systems

Everybody is getting burned by Seagates. We use to have WD HDDs in our own on-site system. Recently replaced with Samsung SSDs

And when we were running that system on Seagates, we actually once had two drives failing at the same time

That's the only time I ever had that scenario first-hand

Journeyman Geek

Eh. I don't think hgst makes deskstars any more. Those things are rediculously tanky

Their Nas ones probably ought to be fine too tho

Oliver Salzburg

Anyway, all VMs are back up. RAID is rebuilding. Parcels can be shipped again, people can print again, everybody is happy and now the real work can begin

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg real work is obviously playing Minecraft...

Like damnnnnnn

Oliver Salzburg

Nah, I need to implement a system into our schema module through which we can decorate our data models with extra validation and manipulation logic

Which is a lot of words to say: If there is a secret in a model, don't send that to a user who requests that model through the API, for example

Bob

9:53 AM

@OliverSalzburg wait. do you have the model numbers?

there was one particularly bad batch of seagate drives

everything else is not far off wd/hgst/etc....

(just like there was one particularly bad batch of wd drives back around 2011)

djsmiley2k

@OliverSalzburg parcel shipping company, or just you ship lots of parcels?

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k The latter. They deliver their products through DHL

@Bob Yeah, they're ST31000424SS

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Ah, doesn't appear the be the terrible batch :P

ST3000DM001 was ... rather infamous

Oliver Salzburg

Maybe they are the SAS sibling with partially same components

No idea. Maybe they are fine now, but I still see Seagate failures more frequently than other drives for whatever reason. And I simply would not want to get burned again by a product that gave me this much pain in the past

Bob

@OliverSalzburg you know... they could be. they were introduced 2011, same year as the bad batch. also, thailand floods.

most drives (including other manufacturers) from 2011-12 have higher failure rates iirc

. i.stack.imgur.com/jiWWw.png

...spam's getting pretty weird these days

Avery

10:05 AM

@Bob ...

Bob

@Avery ?

Avery

spam is getting pretty weird

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 You're not missing much :)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill lol

DavidPostill

@Bob lol

@Bob There is an Irish airline called "Air Lingus". You can imagine the jokes.

Burgi

10:13 AM

@DavidPostill i thought it was spelt "aer"

DavidPostill

@Burgi Slip of the tongue. You are correct :)

Burgi

i think it is gaelic for "Air Link"

sorry for ruining your joke...

DavidPostill

@Burgi You didn't. I managed to make ~~a better~~ another one :)

Burgi

so good i missed it >.<

DavidPostill

@Burgi lol

Burgi

10:22 AM

is it possible to find which account is linked to a google tag manager?

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill are they cunning?

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek All Irish are cunning by definition :)

@Burgi Yes. Please ask a question so I can answer it :)

Burgi

@DavidPostill its off-topic for SU

also that link doesn't solve the problem

DavidPostill

@Burgi lol.

@Burgi shrug

djsmiley2k

@Burgi do you watch GoT?

as we can't really discuss Dr Who any more :/

Tho in the first Ep, I just got kinda bored...

not watched ep2 yet

DavidPostill

10:42 AM

@djsmiley2k No spoilers please. Some of us are still watching S5 ...

djsmiley2k

oh not going to spoil

you read the books?

DavidPostill

10:55 AM

@djsmiley2k No. Working my way through the series.

djsmiley2k

Ah ok

Books soooooooooooooooooo much more than the tv series

i mean, I love the tv series, but they cut so much out, and change things to make sense to a viewer.

On my 3rd~ read through, and only just noticing some things now.

Journeyman Geek

11:11 AM

lol

I joke one needs to read GOT with one of those large pinboards with multicolour strings

Burgi

brilliant

we've lost a customer because "we aren't proactive enough on developing their website"

djsmiley2k

...

@JourneymanGeek tis true.

Burgi

i've been pushing the customer service team to try to get this guy to agree to a rebuild for about a year

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k I intend to reread them once (if?) they are all out

djsmiley2k

yeah it does feel like it maybe a bit like dwarf fortress @JourneymanGeek, the end may never come?

Tho the next 2(?) books are the last I believe, at least for a song of fire and ice

Journeyman Geek

11:19 AM

yup

Oliver Salzburg

11:31 AM

1

Q: What is the cause of a "No network connection" banner?

This banner randomly appears, persists across mobile and WiFi networks, and then randomly disappears, and I don't know where to begin to search for the issue.

networking google-pixel

Argh

I have that issue now :(

But my bar is on the bottom. Why are there no answers :'(

Boris_yo

11:41 AM

They mention C6 result. What standard is this?

It's for applying to institution of higher education.

I don't remember those qualificators in my exams.

djsmiley2k

o_O what is C6 o_O

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k euroakadeemia.ee/en/admission-terms

djsmiley2k

> C6 Credit 64% - 54% 6

West African Senior School Certificate Examination

The West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE) is a type of standardized test in West Africa. It is administered by the West African Examinations Council. It is only offered to candidates residing in Anglophone West African countries. The academic school-leaving qualification awarded upon successful completion of the exams is the West African Senior School Certificate (WASSCE). == The examinations == There are two different types of the examination: WASSCE (November/December) - Also known as the General Certificate Examinations (GCE), by its former name; all students from private...

Would it be that?

Nothing else on google seems to make sense,because.... context?

Who wants to be the NRO NC?

> The RIPE NCC Executive Board will select one representative from the nominees to serve a three-year term on the NRO NC beginning 1 January 2018. The decision of the Executive Board will be announced at the RIPE
75 Meeting, which will be held in Dubai from 22-26 October 2017.

enjoy l:D

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k Enjoy?

djsmiley2k

12:01 PM

Why not go for it ;D

Rahul2001

12:16 PM

IMAX Is Moving Away From 3-D: ‘Consumers Have Shown a Strong Preference’

I hate 3d

Need to wear double glasses for no significant or especially outstanding difference

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 squashes @Rahul2001 and sends him to flatland :)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill :P

Oliver Salzburg

12:31 PM

@Rahul2001 It's almost like we tried the whole 3D thing in the past already

Burgi

12:49 PM

arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/06/…

wtf?

DavidPostill

@Burgi Do keep up :)

Jun 25 at 16:10, by DavidPostill

Passions flare as Turkey excludes evolution from textbooks

^^^ Proof that Turkeys do evolve :)

Burgi

lol

djsmiley2k

0

Q: Can't concatenate a string inside a batch loop

I've been struggling with this for a while now, and I can't seem to figure out why. I have this batch file: @echo on setlocal enabledelayedexpansion for /F %%x in (FileList.txt) do ( for /L %%i in (1,1,16) do ( if %%i LSS 10 (set ctr=0%%i) else (set ctr=%%i) echo !ctr! ...

batch batch-file ms-dos string concatenation

@DavidPostill what does !ctr! do, instead of %ctr% in this question?

@DavidPostill What's this, number of attempted coups in the last 5 years?

DavidPostill

1:09 PM

@djsmiley2k enabledelayedexpansion - Delayed Expansion will cause variables to be expanded at execution time rather than at parse time.

One of the most common issues with batch files containing for loops or other ( ... ) delimited code blocks.

djsmiley2k

ah ok

so it'd set it once, and never again?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yes. That's a good summary.

djsmiley2k

:D

(without the delayed expansion)

it runs through, sets it, goes it's already done this bit blaurggh

ok.... why do I have a blister on my finger?

DavidPostill

1:27 PM

@djsmiley2k Yep. Parse time happens once. Execution time happens multiple times

djsmiley2k

I think I'm coming down with smething :/

@DavidPostill beautiful, explained it in a way I understood, ty. :)

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Horsefly bite?

djsmiley2k

maybe

Journeyman Geek

ugh

djsmiley2k

this is only tiny tho. just randomly appeared in the last few hours.

Journeyman Geek

1:29 PM

I need a less jerryrigged network

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek heh

take the nails back out l;D

Journeyman Geek

Oh, that's at WORK

djsmiley2k

Wait a moment, along wiht a hammer, did you buy string, and some tin cans?

:D

Journeyman Geek

>_>

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek I though the "ugh" was for my link for a moment :)

djsmiley2k

1:29 PM

Oh at home? :(

sadness for you.

Journeyman Geek

Vending machine...

Yeah

I kinda want a mesh network rig

but too pricy

djsmiley2k

ubuiquity!

:O

Journeyman Geek

Wiring stuff up would be a nightmare

Oh, was looking at asus' lyra

djsmiley2k

yeah I'm lucky in the fact we moved into our new house - there's ethernet in the wall that happens to go into my home office...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, if I moved out I can probably do my own cabling at this point

I got a shedload of practice at this job

djsmiley2k

1:31 PM

yeah no chance I'd get to do that in a fully decorated house!

Journeyman Geek

lol

djsmiley2k

Nicely decorated too

Journeyman Geek

I'd need to get married first ;p

(singapore is odd)

Burgi

what happens if you get divorced? would you have to move back in with the parents?

Journeyman Geek

er

oddly, one person can be the sole owner of the apoartment

its the buying stage where they see if you're married for eligibility for public housing

DavidPostill

1:36 PM

@JourneymanGeek Is there no private housing in SG?

Hmm. bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40741785

Oliver Salzburg

> In summary: it is a common condition, and the US military pays for the healthcare of millions of men, meaning it spends a lot on Viagra and other such drugs.

I should start reading everything from the bottom. It's where they hide the tl;dr

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill Too pricey

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek It is somewhat amusing when other posts appear between mine and the one you are replying to :)

DavidPostill

2:04 PM

lol

@DavidPostill - please do not post the same comment to multiple answers. — Robino 1 min ago

in response to:

Please do not post the same answer to multiple questions. If the same information really answers both questions, then one question (usually the newer one) should be closed as a duplicate of the other. You can indicate this by voting to close it as a duplicate or, if you don't have enough reputation for that, raise a flag to indicate that it's a duplicate. Otherwise tailor your answer to this question and don't just paste the same answer in multiple places. — DavidPostill ♦ 13 mins ago

djsmiley2k

> More than 80% of Singapore's population live in HDB flats. HDB Flats in Singapore are sold on a 99-year lease agreement. The remainder are rental flats reserved for those who are unable to afford to purchase the cheapest forms of public housing despite financial support.

closed questions can get upvotes?

Journeyman Geek

hmm. Oddly, I don't remember

djsmiley2k

My one seems to have. ;D

It's on SciFi...

> Unfortunately our certificate provider ,Trustwave, are no longer able to issue SHA-1 certificates that the version 2 platform uses, therefore we are adopting the SHA-256 protocol.

a card transaction provider...

using SHA-1

Oliver Salzburg

2:23 PM

> Unfortunately

djsmiley2k

> Stuff

Oh yeah, @OliverSalzburg :D

'we didn't want to upgrade...'

Why does the name trustwave ring huge bells in my head

Ah, SpiderLabs

Oliver Salzburg

> Critics claimed that Trustwave had enabled its client to issue arbitrary SSL certificates for any domain

djsmiley2k

Ah :D

All the SSL providers are -_- tho

what we need to do is enable generating your own cert at home

signing it using their cert

and hosting it on their system (they being whoever's website you are visiting)

Oliver Salzburg

Let's start by you trusting my root cert!

djsmiley2k

You'd then be verifying yourself, against yourself.

For example facebook.

They're happy enough to host gb's of my photos and videos

I'm sure they could cope with a cert for me as well

now implement this for every site i visit

boom working security :D

Rahul2001

2:37 PM

Stephen Makes A Change To Trump's 'Trans Ban' Tweet

►

Burgi

2:48 PM

you know what, satirical comedians should put up or shut up

if stephen colbert thinks he can make a better president perhaps he should stand for election

Oliver Salzburg

3:00 PM

@Burgi Pretty sure he doesn't write his own material

Which politicians do neither, I guess :\

Rahul2001

@Burgi Meh. You don't lose your right to criticise the government if you aren't a perfect fit for a president yourself.

Burgi

true but that guy seems to have a personal vendetta against trump

he was never this critical of obama

Rahul2001

@Burgi Yeah and I don't blame him

Obama wasn't an asshole

Burgi

in the UK our satire pokes fun at all parties equally

Rahul2001

@Burgi Trump calls all critical media "fake news", promotes violence towards journalists, and discredits them

@Burgi The Democratic party is not very active right now. Republicans have majority in both houses.

In the US, satire is not only about poking fun, it's also about generating awareness

Burgi

3:07 PM

that is the wrong job

please understand that i am not defending trump but it feels like they need some balance

Rahul2001

The Trump new is so depressing, many, many people don't read news anymore, and get information from satire itself

@Burgi Sure, I understand. Colbert used to make a lot of fun of Clinton too during the campaign trails

Burgi

@Rahul2001 thats an indication of a wider societal failing

Rahul2001

There is literally no one else for him to make fun of right now

Burgi

the two party system doesn't work

djsmiley2k

~~two party~~

Rahul2001

3:10 PM

Relevant transcript: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=33485531#33485531

DavidPostill

I favor approval voting or IRV chiefly because they mean we might get to bring back The Bull Moose party.

djsmiley2k

And why would you want to get rid of the thing that allowed you to win? :)

CPG Grey has done some really good vids on this

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Because it allows half of you to lose? ;)

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill sometimes it allows everyone to loose.

:D

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Indeed

djsmiley2k

3:13 PM

The moment you attack the system that gives you power, the people start to doubt the system, and so doubt you should have power, and so doubt that you know wtf you're talking about either....

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Straw poll: Does anybody here actually believe Trump knows WTF he is talking/tweeting/ranting about?

Rahul2001

Star this if you think he doesn't!

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill here? or in the glorious land of the free?

I'm sure in some aspects he's a very clever man

Rahul2001

Star this if you think he does!

:P

djsmiley2k

I sometimes wonder if this whole thing is a HUGE troll too.

Rahul2001

3:16 PM

WHAT THE F***ING HELL huffingtonpost.in/2017/07/26/…

(trigger warning: underage rape stuff)

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Here, as in this chat room. Judging by the inane supporters on C4 news interviews at least some US people think he does ... his supporters always have a spin on whatever he says ...

@Rahul2001 :/

bwDraco

roar

Burgi

who cares?

no

i'm just being grumpy

bwDraco

lol

Burgi

you still should apply for that AMD job i posted

bwDraco

3:23 PM

I think this is a huge deal because AMD now has an answer for the cost-sensitive mainstream market.

The Ryzen 3 1300X handily beats Intel's competing Core i3 processors in anything that's even remotely multithreaded.

anandtech.com/show/11658/…, tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-cpu,5149-10.html

Oliver Salzburg

I thought AMD has always been the answer to cost-sensitive people

bwDraco

However, Intel has the advantage of an IGP. AMD's answer is Bristol Ridge APUs which use the older Excavator cores. The new Ryzen CPUs need to be paired with a discrete graphics card.

Oliver Salzburg

Was Intel ahead in that sector with the i3?

bwDraco

But for entry-level gaming systems that are going to pair the chip with something along the lines of an RX 560 or GTX 1050 Ti, AMD has the edge.

@OliverSalzburg It's more of an AMD disadvantage. We're still waiting for the Zen / Vega based Raven Ridge APUs to come out.

The Ryzen 5 1400 is disadvantaged during the tests because of its low clock frequency (4C/8T @ 3.2-3.4 GHz).

@OliverSalzburg Well, yeah. Ryzen 5 costed more than the i3s and was only slightly better than them unless you had heavily-threaded workloads.

The Ryzen 3 processors drop SMT, so they're 4C/4T. This still gives them an edge over Core i3 processors, which are 2C/4T, in practically any workload that requires more than two threads.

It's surprisingly easy to peg two hardware threads these days.

Even having just a few browser tabs open with moderately-intensive pages can require more than two threads, especially considering the usual Windows background tasks.

The only stumbling block is going to be the lack of an IGP. This is a serious limitation because most cheaper systems rely on the IGP provided by Intel's processors, and even a cheap graphics card is going to add some $50 to the BOM.

bwDraco

4:07 PM

The Ryzen 3 1200, on the other hand, does not seem to perform all that competitively and AMD will need to price it lower. However, as with all Ryzen processors, it does have the benefit of overclockability on a B350 or X370 board.

Tom's Hardware:

> Make no mistake, you’ll see the Ryzen 3 1300X on our Best CPUs list soon. [...] Meanwhile, the Coffee Lake processors can’t come soon enough for Intel.

Oliver Salzburg

4:31 PM

@bwDraco Awesome. Thanks for the update. And I totally agree on being able to easily saturate at least 2 cores these days

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