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1:40 AM
Hello
my question has been deleted after 69 upvote and 10000 reach :(
 
Well that's unfortunate...
 
"Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise.If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit your question."
 
@aliarousyoucef Which site was it on?
 
Can you link the question?
 
1:47 AM
The close reason is valid. I don't think it should have been voted that highly at all.
 
It was HNQ
 
whats mean HNQ ?
 
Hot Network Question
 
There's only one answer anyway: "Only MS devs know why, the rest of us can only guess."
 
@GypsySpellweaver but before i asked the question i was thinking is because technical reasons
 
1:51 AM
@GypsySpellweaver Yea, that was my next comment.
 
Why didn't Noah save the unicorns? Only Noah can answer that question too.
 
thanks for yours replies
mmm i understand
 
@aliarousyoucef Not to worry. Others have had similar Q's with the same results. And, as near as I can remember, always about MS decisions as well. Comes with working behind closed doors, I guess.
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver That's actually a rather poor excuse and would cover a good quantity of questions over SE that, not so surprisingly, do have definitive answers.
Sometimes, we get actual company reps/employees (and very often happens with MS) who reply.
Sometimes there's an official company statement somewhere.
Sometimes an unofficial statement by an employee in a blog post.
In fact, this one does have an answer from MS: blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2015/06/03/…
 
1:58 AM
And, when all three fail, as well as any other potential source, what answer can the community provide to the question?
 
Bob
> Finally, I’d like to share some background on today’s announcement, because this is the 3rd time the PowerShell team has attempted to support SSH. The first attempts were during PowerShell V1 and V2 and were rejected. Given our changes in leadership and culture, we decided to give it another try and this time, because we are able to show the clear and compelling customer value, the company is very supportive.
 
> Intel claims the reason it will offer an 18-core desktop part is that the 10-core Broadwell-E was received "really well" in the enthusiast community. I'm not sure I buy that, at all, considering the Steam Hardware Survey shows a market share of 0.01 percent for 10-core systems (and only 0.26 percent for 8-core). There's still the trouble of figuring out what the heck you're going to do that actually needs 10-core or 12-core, let alone 18-core. 4K video editing is an obvious use case, but even that can be done with an 8-core chip (at about half the speed). Content creation in general, incl
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver In those cases, I would consider the answers overly-speculative, not necessarily the question.
This kind of question teeters on the "good subjective, bad subjective" line
 
Now it's AMD's turn: anandtech.com/show/11476/…
 
Bob
think I've had this discussion before... more than once
 
2:01 AM
Robert Cartaino on September 29, 2010

Stack Exchange is about questions with objective, factual answers. We’ve been crystal clear about this for as long as I can remember, even back to the earliest, pre-beta days of Stack Overflow. It’s right there in the standard Stack Exchange FAQ:

What kind of questions should I not ask here?

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered!

Thus, questions that are not answerable — discussions, debates, opinions — should be closed as subjective. It seems simple enough: Fact good; opinion and discussion bad. But why? …

 
Bob
"why" questions are ... hard to handle.
 
Which, once the Q's been around long enough to gather such over-speculative answers, and nothing definitive, makes the close reason valid.
 
Bob
close em all? not great.
leave them all open? nope
but where's the line?
 
case-by-case, based on the resulting answers.
Answers are the reason for all of SE, not questions.
 
Bob
@bwDraco I'm just waiting for Asus and their Aura SDK. Though that might've already happened...
 
2:04 AM
for my case the answer of community was very helpful
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver actually, having a closer look at that question - I have to agree it probably falls on the bad side
 
@aliarousyoucef at the end of the day, you had ~2 months to edit the question and have it submitted for reopening. We don't keep closed questions around forever.
 
Actually, I suspect a lot of why questions fall into the bad category. If there's a problem, or a work-around needed, then look for that. Why someone did, or didn't put some feature into some package isn't very useful to people with issues to solve.
 
@MichaelFrank so its too late , next time i will ask question where answers will not based on opinions
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver point.
 
2:13 AM
That type of question is more of a forum thing than an SE thing.
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver But it also depends on the type of why. Why wa decision made => hard to be good. Why does X happen => can be good.
 
AMD EPYC server processors will be available on June 20, 2017.
 
Or a chat room thing :)
 
Bob
"Why does a hard drive click indicate failure" => good objective answers
 
If why is a hidden version of what an I doing wrong that's good.
 
Bob
2:14 AM
@bwDraco for some reason, that name annoys me
 
any suggestion of good forum
 
@aliarousyoucef Only a guess: MSDN?
@Bob I think it's because AMD is trying to say the new chip is epic ;/
 
@GypsySpellweaver he said good
 
Why did Pandora decide to change their logo to something very similar to what PayPal currently have?
 
@Bob Typically, it's because when the drive initializes, it tries to find the tracks to start seeking. Often, the media fails in such a way that it can't find these key tracks, and it just keeps trying over and over again.
 
2:16 AM
For his question it might be good.
 
@GypsySpellweaver thanks
 
@bwDraco I think that was rhetoric.
 
Also, new desktops from Dell with Ryzen processors, including a new AIO system that is surprisingly user-serviceable. pcworld.com/article/3198765/computers/…
Again, follow AnandTech's live blog here: anandtech.com/show/11476/…
 
Bob
@bwDraco ...I wasn't actually asking. I know the answer... that was an example.
 
> AMD is the only company to provide the combination of CPU and GPU
Holy crap. ASUS has crammed an 8C/16T desktop processor into a gaming laptop.
The Ryzen 7 1700 is the natural choice here given its lower TDP.
Now the fun part. "Ryzen: The Next Wave"
Ryzen mobile APUs: 50% more CPU performance, 40% more GPU performance, all at half the power.
 
Bob
2:36 AM
@bwDraco wot.
 
@Bob Yeah. That assertion is a bit odd.
 
Bob
I mean.
Literally their main competitor.
@bwDraco More than what?
Than their previous APUs? Than Intel mobile CPUs? Than desktop Ryzen?
 
@Bob Previous APUs.
 
Bob
Ah.
I don't know how their previous APUs performed, tbh.
IIRC better GPU than Intel, worse CPU.
But that knowledge is like 5 years outdated.
 
@Bob Still held true.
This time, it's 4C/8T Zen + Radeon Vega graphics.
Also, they're going from 28nm to 14nm.
It's no surprise they're getting a massive leap in performance per watt.
Ryzen Threadripper: 64 PCIe lanes. Wow.
4 go to the chipset, and probably 8 more for two PCIe SSDs, but that still leaves 52 lanes. Just a guess, though.
 
Bob
2:49 AM
@bwDraco only 4 to the chipset?
 
@Bob Apparently. That's what AnandTech is saying.
 
Bob
wait never mind
 
 
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4:02 AM
This doesn't seem to be working properly.
The Write-Host events all fire with the correct information, but the $user = $g.Name assignment never happens, or is null for some reason.
Anyone got any ideas?
SID
S-1-5...etc
S-1-5...etc
AUK-PH-Distribution-Depart
That's the output of the write-host events.
So I can tell the information is there...
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank that hurts my brain
that indentation!
the mix-n-match of $user and $User!
 
@Bob That... shouldn't be there.
 
Bob
poke @BenN :P
 
I was contemplating asking on SO, but I didn't know how to ask the question other than a generic "Why doesn't this work?"
I feel like it's looping through too many times, but the output in the console looks like the data I'm expecting.
 
Bob
4:20 AM
@MichaelFrank then do a echo 'foo' on every loop run
 
5:20 AM
Hi
 
|-|3|_|_0
 
Hello.. Well seeing you in two rooms at once :/
 
I know. ;)
 
5:35 AM
@JourneymanGeek 'sup?
 
And. I'm connected to an AP. That has decided I do not deserve an IP address
 
WELP, ain't that sweet. How's it letting you connect then?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek where's the DHCP server?
 
5:56 AM
On the ap.
 
Is, per chance, the AP set for a limited number of clients, and you're too late to join the party?
 
> Core X exists less for the present than it does for the future, one in which “extreme” becomes normal, because there’s nothing else left.
 
SBM
Hello
 
Bob
6:21 AM
@bwDraco media has been crying about a "post-PC world" for about a decade now
get back to me when you find out how to break physics and give me a usable keyboard on a phone
And a usable multitasking UI that can show more than half a dozen words across at a time
But then you realise multitasking on a phone is too much for the puny CPU to handle
 
SBM
Yes
 
@Bob I cant help with the screen view or the CPU,but here's your keyboard
Unless you like Star Wars. bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/…
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver sounds rather gimmicky
I don't like the on-screen touch keyboards on tablets, what's supposed to make this better?
there's no haptic feedback
you basically have to look at the keys :\
 
You asked for usable not perfect ;P
It is possible for a touch typist to adjust, at reduced speed, to tactile-less keys. Just not as fun :(
 
SBM
6:38 AM
Touch typing? @GypsySpellweaver
 
@SBM At least until they get cerebral implants working. ;P
 
More trouble at work...
Boss just threatened to bring me to the chairman cause one of our shared folders was not secure 1) No one changed it. 2) Users had saved passwords on a shared PC....
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver that's probably less usable than my on-screen swiping keyboard :\
@JourneymanGeek :(
@JourneymanGeek ... ... ...
 
@Bob emailed him a screenshot of the config page with the permissions circled and a windows login page for that share
 
If he wants a folder secure, don't share it.
 
6:51 AM
it needs to be shared. It has the shitty access db our student records is on
 
Then he needs to find a way to control the users with access codes. Users are beyond your control.
 
yup
also, cripes, I'm an employee, not a schoolboy
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver Well. Shared accounts are a bad idea in the first place. But if you must... disable credential storage.
 
... most of our systems run windows home versions
 
Bob
...which is also illegal, I believe
 
6:59 AM
@Bob by hand... on a lot of systems.... ;p Actually sounds like a great idea
 
@Bob Is it illegal or merely in violation of the EULA? Which is probably not enforceable there anyway.
 
Bob
well. the idea was to only do it on the systems that have multiple people sharing an account.
but idk your environment
 
@Bob .... IDK either
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver violation of EULA = unlicensed use = copyright infringement = illegal
 
random machines from XP - 10. I'm trying to prune down the number of APs in operation to 2....
 
7:01 AM
Cool. Computer hard powered off for no reason. :S
 
@Bob I may need to look that up. If I feel particularly vindictive, I may report them to MS when I leave ;p
 
@MichaelFrank Mine only does that for two reasons: thermal shutdown, which I usually see coming, but can't stop. Or, the cats figure out how to flip the switch on the surge strip.
 
@GypsySpellweaver Yea, I don't think the temps are at work here... Event Log doesn't have any solid leads, besides a Windows Defender update and 20 minutes later the The operating system started at system time ‎2017‎-‎05‎-‎31T06:55:43.489978300Z. log.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek @GypsySpellweaver For Windows specifically - there's no non-commercial use clause in the Home edition. Though educational use is often an exception anyway.
For Office, Starter is non-commercial I believe.
As is Home and Student version.
 
What about a commercial school?
 
7:08 AM
Soliciting product advice: I'm looking for a battery-powered hallway light (modern LED tech, efficient) that's low intensity so it doesn't blind people, ideally diffused instead of point source, and lasts a long time on a replaceable battery, without requiring a stupid number of batteries (4 AA or 8 AAA are standard)
ideally it'd use something like an 18650 cell and last like 50-100 hours on a charge at low intensity
basically the same thing as what they put in good tactical flashlights but on lowest setting, just enough to illuminate the walls and any hazards on the floor
 
Hey guys. Is there a way to sandbox internet explorer to make it safe from user mistakes?
Pretty much I'm going to be handing over remote desktops to very sensitive workstations (No way around it) with shell access to I.E (superuser.com/questions/260889/…)
 
@AayushAgrawal need to be significantly more specific about what this "user mistake" could entail
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver Depends whether they qualify as educational. There's a page on the MS website with the requirements.
 
Pretty much any and every way to wreck the system. Mostly by people clicking on "100 hot shingles are waiting for you!! Download now!"
 
Bob
@allquixotic so 2-4 days?
 
7:12 AM
@Bob oh, they have to be motion sensored too, which makes them last significantly longer
forgot to mention that :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic I think it's the other way around... the detection circuitry may well use more power than a little LED :P
 
They'll pretty much be restricted to opening only a single website but I'm still worried about them accidentally downloading malware onto the system. The target users are very computer illiterate
 
@AayushAgrawal You can prevent downloads, or set system wide policies to disable running downloaded files, but you can't prevent attack sites from attempting to exploit security vulnerabilities in IE (which MSFT has tried hard to patch, but still exist, especially if this system won't receive frequent Windows updates)
general rule of thumb is, if the system needs to remain very secure, either whitelist the IPs and domains it can reach, or disable Internet access entirely -- don't let its Internet connection route to the public Internet period
once they're on the internet, the best laid plans are nothing in comparison to what security vulns hackers attempt to exploit -- they're always one step ahead of Windows updates
and IE is still pretty bad security-wise; you can only band-aid an awfully designed browser so much
 
I guess I'll have to go with the domain thing. My main worry is for either people to accidentally download malware on it or for a competitor to get one of my employees to intentionally sabotage the workstation
 
Bob
@allquixotic not really, since activex was removed/disabled
 
7:16 AM
@AayushAgrawal I'm not in the Windows world much any more, but an old product was DeepFreeze. Basically created a fresh, disposable copy of the system at boot, and ran off of that.
 
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver not applicable from vista onwards. there's some built-in mechanism now but it's complex last I looked
 
@GypsySpellweaver I already considered deepfreeze. Problem is that the target user would be using RDP to get into the workstation but the workstation is also used for other purposes
 
Bob
you're better off using a VM and snapshots
 
@GypsySpellweaver useless for his use case; if the problem-space is that there's some kind of local Intranet with valuable corporate data or sensitive client data that they don't want malware reaching, the malware could simply install itself and not log out of / reboot the system and continue to siphon off data until it's satisfied
 
there was a native tool for that which got killed off in 7 called steadystate
 
7:17 AM
if your problem isn't "easily deal with infections after they've taken place" and is rather "prevent infections from occurring in the first place", no amount of snapshotting or restoring will help solve your problem
you're recommending an antidote when what they need is a vaccination
 
Anyway guys thanks for your help. I'll go with the whitelist and hope for the best (I'm whitelisting a trusted government website, although unfortunately one that's poorly maintained)
 
Bob
btw, @allquixotic, ask your Q over at candlepowerforums.com and lemme know the response :P
 
@AayushAgrawal make sure you don't (only) whitelist on the client side -- that kinda stuff can be messed with
 
better to whitelist on a centralized, enterprise-grade router that connects all the boxes to the Internet
a secure gateway basically
 
Bob
7:23 AM
> I have solar powered lights all over the place including closets. They last for weeks into months. With an extra one I can simply rotate them when needed.
@allquixotic most are designed for outdoor use... I suppose some might work for you, or you could grab a cheap PIR module and DIY it :P
> English is not my mother lenguaje
well... that's one way of making that clear :P
 
@Bob bleh
looks like nobody on the market is selling what I'm buying -_-
 
Bob
@allquixotic does it have to be motion activated?
@allquixotic plug-in night light? candlepowerforums.com/vb/…
you could do 150 hours quite easily with a very low power (20mA) LED always on
 
7:40 AM
@Bob I'd have to change it every 150 hours then. And a plug-in is very inconvenient for the hallway because there are literally no outlets, and running an extension cord from the bathroom really sucks
 
@allquixotic low power 5V warm white led strip+ powerbank.
 
because the bathroom uses one socket for a night light in the bathroom itself, and one occasionally for bathroom appliances like hair clippers
@satibel I was tempted to go with an LED strip and an external USB battery, but most USB batteries turn themselves off automatically -_-
would need one that automatically turns on or something
 
get the cheapest crappy ones that just have a switch and no fancy electronics :p
 
that's expensive.
though, you could run less expensive 12v led strips.
 
7:51 AM
morning
 
@allquixotic would you mind soldering?
 
@satibel I would. I don't even own a soldering iron
 
heh
I just spent about half an hour soldering back a VGA socket at work this morning that the carpeting contractor broke off
 
@allquixotic oh, ok, because you could make a cheap and good system if you did.
 
8:08 AM
ugh
one of our servers was the target of a DoS last night
 
I hope it was freedos and not msdos :p
 
Sounds like it was running free alright
 
8:23 AM
Didn't we use to do the opposite of this change?
As in, don't repeat the tags in the title
 
@GypsySpellweaver You might be right about the thermal shutdown... my CPU is idling at 60ºC
 
Hell, I'd be idling if it was 60°!
 
We're moving house in a couple of weeks, I'll clean it out once we move.
 
sigh
minion just resigned
 
SBM
minion?
 
8:30 AM
His subordinate
 
@Burgi :O
26
A: Calculate how much disk-space would have been used

djsmiley2kThe command pv is perfect for this. mysqldump | pv -b > /dev/null I think the above will give you the right command you want, it may need some adjusting such as pv -b | > /dev/null as I can't test right now -b gives you a value in bytes.

26! \o/
 
@Burgi he's searching for kevin and bob?
 
@satibel heh
 
8:47 AM
A failed LIFX firmware rollout really left me in the dark this morning :\ #firstworldproblems
@djsmiley2k | > /dev/null that works? O__o
 
@OliverSalzburg I dunno
amusingly it seems no one's tested it
eitherway, there is a way to make it work, using pv ;D
@Burgi Yo9u going to get a replacement?
 
9:11 AM
hm
I may be getting an actual boss
 
@JourneymanGeek Are you getting married?
 
@djsmiley2k think so
 
Oh, god no. Not with this job
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek is that good or bad
 
@Bob he's above me, not instead of me
so... plausibly good
 
9:23 AM
Any of you guys advise me how to anaylise a memory.dmp file from win 10?
 
huh?
 
wuha?
 
Nothing, my messages weren't getting sent
 
@Rahul2001 click here for more sex gifs' ? wut??!?!
 
Bob
9:37 AM
@djsmiley2k windbg
 
@Rahul2001 can't run random exe's
@Bob is that built in?
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k no. Windows SDK
 
hmmmmm not on this system :(
ah well, i attach the file, then go oh it's too big
and give up
 
Bob
The tinfoil hattery is strong with this one.
@djsmiley2k I
I've sneakernetted one of those larger dumps off a server. Turns out the bluescreen was caused by Truecrypt :\
Usually the minidump (much smaller) is enough.
 
@Bob I'm not proud enough to use I, it's i for me :P
@Bob Oh I have the dump on my desktop
it's too large for our ticket system, i chucked it in a dir on the shared server now.
 
Bob
9:44 AM
@djsmiley2k It was an attempt to reply... I hit enter too early :P
 
@djsmiley2k that's a gif :P
 
@Rahul2001 that was meant for @satibel sigh.
it's too early, leave me alone :(
 
@Bob ah, air gaps, though, I can still steal all your information by blinking the lights on your keyboard or HDD, and capture that through an ip security camera. (which most are not secure arm linux machines)
 
work has suddenly gone quiet T T
 
9:48 AM
:/
like they aren't giving you anymore?
or the new guy is your boss, and he's getting an idea of what actually needs doing?
 
no. Like... quiet
 
if worse comes to worse, bridge the airgap by changing the room temperature.
 
oh, like everyones gone silent and you don't know why?
@JourneymanGeek get up and go to the toilet
 
YES!
lol. why?
 
to try and get a handle on what's going on
it's freaky when everyone suddenly goes quiet
or you could start having a coughing fit
 
9:54 AM
> our group
Do I want to meet that group?
 
Why ever not?
 
.... the air conditioner turns off at 6...
it has gone EVEN QUIETER.
 
put some anthrax or any death metal song.
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Sounds like fun!
@OliverSalzburg I also want to point out that behind all the tinfoil they're running XP... in 2016...
 
@satibel When I started reading that I was like "Wow, Anthrax into the air conditioner. Someone is having a bad day"
 
Bob
10:05 AM
@satibel pretty sure anthrax is illegal
 
@JourneymanGeek 6....pm?
 
Y U IN OFFICE AT 6PM!?!
 
Cause I work 7 to 10
 
thats a fracking LONG day
 
10:14 AM
Sounds like 3 hours to me
 
lol
I asked to get it changed from 8-5
 
8-5 is 3.
 
Now it's getting really confusing
 
please use 24 hours time or append am or pm.
 
10:16 AM
So you work from 7am to 10pm? As in 15hrs?
And now you want to changed to 8am to 5pm aka 9hrs
9 seems to be a lot less than 15
I mean, that's almost humane working conditions ;)
 
er
;p
10am to 7pm
sorry, its the end of the day, and I am clearly longing for the next 40 minutes to go quietly
 
are there no restrictions on weekly working hours in SG?
because it sounds like you are doing a 75 hour week
even in the UK that would be considered extreme
and we work, on average, the longest hours in europe
 
lol
people be cray
@JourneymanGeek urgh, unless you've got somethign to work on, those 'after office hours' hours, are gonna drag :/
 
@Burgi that would be 45 hours.
9*5
 
I work from 10am to 7pm, so ... 45 hours a week
@djsmiley2k they do
 
10:27 AM
@satibel ah i was looking at the 15 hours
 
if the 1 hour pause doesn't count, that would be 40 hours.
 
12 mins ago, by Oliver Salzburg
So you work from 7am to 10pm? As in 15hrs?
 
I donno if it does ;p
anyway, no one keeps track of it as far as I know
 
lol
-5 hours for 1 hour lunch each day btw
 
and I've worked through lunch a few times
 
10:30 AM
at least that's th standard here
@JourneymanGeek hmmm
 
In theory I work saturdays on probation but I wasn't told and I pushed back on it
 
don't D:
urrrrgh
you get a day off in the week, right?
 
10:56 AM
0
Q: How to stop service from commandline in windows?

xakepp35i would like to stop following services from command line print spooler shell harware detection windows defender windows update onedrive onecloud and also deny them from running at startup (as i set to disabled in mmc) Failed to find an generic answer, so how to stop them from command lime ....

check out the comments xD
 
user226528
@djsmiley2k Wish it was possible to vote for closing a question as "Posted by a moron".
 
user226528
Actually, let's think about it carefully.
 
is PostgreSQL free?
 
user226528
@Burgi Yes. See its Wikipedia entry.
 
@FleetCommand I think it's a language issue tbh
but still, makes the reading more fun. However, googling the question TITLE as is, gives the answer anyway :/
Ah well answered anyway, to improve my own knowledge
and it'll likely get closed a dupe shortly
 
11:25 AM
@djsmiley2k Do you not like code blocks?
You seem to favor the inline style
 
I do code blocks for anything over one line generally
it depends how i'm writing it.
 
@FleetCommand is not nice
@Burgi yes
And very nice I am told
 
11:51 AM
Why?
 
wut?
I wanna see this vid
 
@JourneymanGeek annoying that hosting companies don't include it as standard really
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, well, dealing with the gullible and the undereducated is part of an system admin's work. What are you gonna do? Cry to death?
 
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