Root Access

Nick

16:02

-1

Q: Chromium keeps notifying me about things I already checked in Chrome

I have installed on my system Firefox, Opera Neon, Chrome Canary, Chromium and my favorite, Google Chrome. It's so hard managing my multiple accounts on multiple browsers. The most annoying thing is when I check my subscriptions out on chrome and then after a while, Chromium notifies me about i...

:( I keep asking bad questions on this site

Why?

Avery

@Nick just use one browser

or at least don't use both chrome and chromium

Nick

@Avery I need multiple browsers. Multiple people at home each with multiple multitudes of multiple accounts.

Enough accounts to start a click-farm actually.

Burgi

@Nick your intentions look like they are on the darker end of gray

Nick

@Burgi Appearances can be deceptive ;)

DavidPostill

@Nick I agree with the close voters. The question is very unclear exactly what you are asking.

Burgi

16:09

just a heads up

Nick

@DavidPostill dangit... you don't understand my question. I just want the other browsers to stop notifying me once I check something out on another browser.

Andy K

alas no @burgi

Nick

Using....Words...my kryptonite.

DavidPostill

@Nick Perhaps you can include a screenshot of the notification you are talking about?

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Nick

16:13

@DavidPostill ... the normal notification... they don't happen simultaneously, and they all look the same. I never know which browser is telling me waht. I'm unsure how helpful a screenshot would be.

Burgi

what notification?

DavidPostill

^ +1

Avery

question!

what the hell is wrong with echo

Nick

@Burgi the ones that pop on the side.

DavidPostill

@Nick I give up. Please give us a screenshot

Nick

16:17

@DavidPostill yeah, ping me again

Please

someone

anyone

...really... anyone?

allquixotic

@Nick no

Avery

@Nick maybe

Nick Alexeev

Folks, in your opinion, would this headset work with a typical laptop headset jack. Mine is 3.5mm, and it combines mic and headphones.

Nick

@DavidPostill These notifications

Not these specifically

the Youtube reccomendations.

Each browser shows the same subscription notifications. doesn't google already know I watched all that stuff?

Burgi

don't sign into google on each browser

Nick

16:23

@NickAlexeev It will work but it might suck.

@Burgi have to. Google is sort of like my OpenID. Everything uses my same google.

Else, I have to assign a browser to each of my family members...

they're not going to listen to those rules :/

allquixotic

@Nick why have a different browser for each family member, when a single browser like Chrome can have multiple personalities/users with separate cookies and bookmarks and sign-ins?

DavidPostill

Someone has never heard of browser profiles.

Nick

Ah yes, I can even pin little chrome icons to the task bar for each of my family members.... but they won't notice it. they'll randomly always use mine.

Chromium is blue. Canary is Yellow. Chrome is chrome. It's easier now.

@DavidPostill I have. and I wish I could lock them.

allquixotic

@Nick you can change the icon for each shortcut independently of other shortcuts on Windows...

Burgi

sign out when you finish

DavidPostill

16:29

If your family members had their own pc user logins they wouldn't be able to use your profile.

Burgi

or create separate system users

Nick

@allquixotic You mean manual icons for shortcuts.... gawd.

DavidPostill

Why are you all sharing the same account?

Nick

@DavidPostill haha, as if they'll ever let me do that. No, that doesn't work here.

allquixotic

@Nick yeah, gawd, that's sooooo hard to do... it takes like 10 clicks

DavidPostill

16:30

@Nick So stop complaining then. You have a social problem not a computer problem.

Nick

@allquixotic exactly. Also, no profile lock. Atleast i can do app lock in my current scenario.

Burgi

this sounds like an XYZ issue

Nick

@DavidPostill Computers are supposed to fix social problems. See how TheFacebook solved student connectivity and socialization issues at Zuck's college? Let that be a testament to that.

Burgi

just create local system accounts for your family

Nick

you do not understand south indian privacy culture...

Burgi

16:32

i do

Nick

there is no privacy here.

Burgi

make some

you don't stand there and watch your parents having a crap

7

allquixotic

set up VMs for everyone

Avery

@NickAlexeev no

don't waste 35$ for that. You can pay like 10-20 more bucks and get a much more decent headset

Nick

@allquixotic lol

@Burgi that's pretty great advice

Burgi

16:40

i'm a font of wisdom

Nick

hey, look. All 3s on the star board. Maybe my lucky day.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick Or, just set up a VM for yourself, then you can ignore everything on the host, and they can deal with whatever. Your sanity is shielded by the VM

Nick

@GypsySpellweaver will the vm save my sessions? like I'm in the middle of coding and my dad jumps in takes the seat, shuts it down, will my session will be saved?

Burgi

yeah just pause it

Gypsy Spellweaver

No need to "shut down" the VM, us VirtualBox and you can use "Save State" like hibernate

Nick

16:42

@Burgi and I can safely shut down my actual system, restart it and then restart the VM

djsmiley2k

@Nick haaaaaaaaaahahahha

Burgi

you were lecturing others on security last week yet don't follow your own advice

Nick

@GypsySpellweaver And that can be done automatically? Like auto save state every 10 minutes

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick Not for the VM state, no.

Rahul2001

@Nick Facebook gave rise to the death of socialising IRL, it didn'tsolve crap.

It's also the place where antivaxxers and the such spread there gross misinformation. Also, that's where you'll actually find fake news.

Gypsy Spellweaver

16:45

@Nick Do you have to leave the chair at the very second that dad jumps in, or can you "save" it first?

Rahul2001

@Nick just liveboot Ubuntu with persistence

Pull the usb out when dad materialises

Nick

@GypsySpellweaver You must meet my father.

Burgi

do you not have your own PC?

Nick

@Rahul2001 aahh... this is brilliant. I've never thought of that.

Burgi

...

and our ideas weren't good?

Rahul2001

16:49

*subtle cough*

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick Is it a Windows or Linux computer?

Nick

@Burgi lol.

Burgi

racist! ;)

Nick

@GypsySpellweaver both. I used to use ubuntu 16.04 but everyone here prefers windows

@Burgi lol

Burgi

just use local users

Nick

16:51

Burgi

you can live swap between them

Nick

YOUR FOOD WAS GARBAGE @Burgi

@Burgi again..no. it's easier pulling out a stick than switching users on windows

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick Then if the Ubuntu on a stick don't work, try portable apps instead.

Burgi

@Nick pcworld.com/article/2013455/…

you risk the integrity of the USB drive each time you pull it out

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver Yep. I use them all the time. They're awesome

Nick

16:55

@Burgi Win + L takes a whopping 1 minute 40 seconds to bring me to the user login page. My system lags like hell.

@Burgi Yeah, I just need to make sure no other process is using it, right?

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick @Rahul2001 The live Ubuntu stick would mean rebooting to get into Windows, right? That's longer than 100sec.

Burgi

^ +1

Nick Alexeev

@Avery @Nick Why do you think it would suck? I've got this nearly identical one with a different jack, and that one does a decent job.

Nick

@GypsySpellweaver yeah? no hot swap?

Burgi

no...

Rahul2001

16:58

@GypsySpellweaver yep

Avery

@NickAlexeev it looks very flimsy and cheap, and you can get a better one for a bit more money.

it wouldn't exactly suck, but you can get more out of your money.

Nick Alexeev

@Avery Okay, I could get a much more decent headset for about $50. Is there a particular one you could recommend?

Rahul2001

@Nick Dude. No offense, but how exactly do you take ethical hacking workshops without knowing this stuff?

Avery

is mic a requirement? Or rather, what's the intended use?

Nick Alexeev

@Avery Main use case is teleconferencing at the office (with and without video).

Burgi

16:59

hometime

Nick

@Rahul2001 Because I google stupid shit and I get some unbelievable answers that sometimes actually work.

Rahul2001

@Nick that is not the type of hotplugging you're looking for.

Nick

@Rahul2001 i know XD just an example of me googling

i would have put in lmgtfy but that doesn't navigate to links.

Rahul2001

What's the point if you aren't going to find what you need?

Nick

@Rahul2001 I often find wierder shit that come in handy later

@Rahul2001 also, that's why I'm a help vampire in chat. I seek people like you to curate things for me and give me reccomendations out of your experience.

Rahul2001

17:06

Heh

Nick

Also, about my workshop, this is as much hacking as I taught them. The rest was simply intro to Kali. How to google and be a "pro" skiddy. How to use Git, Github and use LAMP to implement a fake sign-in phishing attack. Pretty basic stuff.

It went exactly how you imagine it.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Nick have a view at portableapps.com and see if that might help. Side benefit is that you can use the same USB on any public computer for the same "environment"

Nick

ok tnx

Hey, can anyone here see what's on fb.com/nick.official ?

DavidPostill

> Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment

Nick

how about fb.com/helloworld

Avery

17:16

> Üzgünüz, bu içeriğe şu anda ulaşılamıyor

Nick

hahaha XD

facebook.com/BugBounty

An easy problem to report is message duplication in comments

DavidPostill

17:33

@Nick same

jokerdino

17:51

WannaCry only affects Windows XP, right?

Avery

@jokerdino what

no

it affects:
- linux stuff with wine
- windows xp
- windows vista
- windows 7
- windows 8/8.1
- windows 10
- Server 2003 - 2017

Rahul2001

> - linux stuff with wine

Surprising

Avery

I actually got a video!

jokerdino

hmm

I should know if my PC is affected, I guess.

Avery

Messing with WannaCry on linux for 2.5 minutes.

►

cc @Rahul2001

it's nothing too interesting

also I suck at video editing

I suck more than I think I do

Rahul2001

18:01

Cool!

@Avery I've seen a lot worse

Avery

oh wait I have a worse one

DECENTRALIZED NOTEPAD STARRING TUTORIAL 2010 [WORKING] [GONE WRONG] [GONE SEXUAL] [COPS CALLED]

►

Rahul2001

@Avery lol wot even

Avery

that has zero editing

rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

►

here's also one with zero editing

jokerdino

Do you have a fork bomb?

Avery

not anymore, since I accidentally forkbombed a friend

at startup.

jokerdino

18:09

Still a friend?

Avery

yes.

jokerdino

Something's not right.

Rahul2001

lol

Avery

it was me fighting him back for sending nsfw overwatch stuff to me

so yeah, instead of me unfriending him, we stayed friends but I got scarred for life and he got forkbombed

Rahul2001

@jokerdino I DO!

Just... made one

Avery

18:13

sh %1

Rahul2001

%0|%0

In windows batch

jokerdino

hm

Rahul2001

I... think I'm going to run that for fun

Okay, here goes

jokerdino

Nice knowing you.

Rahul2001

Man, that sucked

Avery

18:26

when ever says "it's been nice knowing you", it reminds me of tihs

couldn't find abetter quality so meh

will make from original source

djsmiley2k

ur gonna install bonsai buddy?

Avery

@djsmiley2k it's preinstalled with windows 10

djsmiley2k

o_O?

not on any version i've got :D

Avery

it goes by the name Cortana.

djsmiley2k

don't think i've got that either

not that i've ever used

it seems to want me to sign into an account, maybe

Rahul2001

19:16

Hm. What if I post a link to gossipmonger on r/InternetIsBeautiful ?

Avery

@Rahul2001 would get downvoted

randomise it

Rahul2001

@Avery no wail

Avery

like, put two people together in one room. that'd get reddit's interes- no, wait, that's omegle.

Nick

any other sites like omegle and chatroullete that are worth going into?

I like video chatting with people and getting to know them

finding good ppl is though

Avery

no.

Dane

19:47

I'm trying to find Firefox's "Bug Zero" which was that IE was the most popular browser. I recall reading about it multiple times, but I really just can't find it or references to it. All of the key words in my search return tons of unrelated zero-day bug reports. Do any of you remember Firefox having this "bug" as a kind of mission statement?

djsmiley2k

wut

i have no clue what you're on about @Dane :/

bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=0

there's no bug 0 :(

allquixotic

@Dane no, I just remember Ubuntu having a bug zero about Windows having the lead market share

anyway that "bug zero" about Firefox would've been closed long ago

closed fixed

Dane

20:18

Right. I remember it was in the news when the bug was closed.

I tried searching around bugzilla, but the lowest ID bug I can find is 101, and I'm not sure if the "bug zero" really had an ID of 0.

@allquixotic - do you have a reference for Ubuntu's bug about Window's market share? That sounds like it was inspired by the Firefox one.

allquixotic

Microsoft has a majority market share

See Mark's closure comment here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834 ------ Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to all." "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world." * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy Non-free software leav…

Ubuntu

Critical / Fix Released

bwDraco

20:34

So... just got a Lenovo Flex 4 at Best Buy. $230 before tax.

allquixotic

that'll set you back a ways on your saving up for your desktop, no?

bwDraco

I know, I know, but it's not much.

I was looking for a cheap, on-the-go productivity solution along the lines of @JourneymanGeek's HP Stream 11 and found this little gem. Usual caveats, 2GB RAM, slow Celeron, blah blah blah, but 64 GB of eMMC, which is better than the mere 32 GB I see on lots of these cheap machines and enough to let me install my core apps with some space to spare.

11.6" touchscreen 2-in-1, which is nice for the money.

DavidPostill

Hmm. The Old New Thing is broken

defalt

Applications should make a system call to take your permission whether they are allowed to encrypt data on your PC or not then i would give this permission only to my browser for TLS. Ransomware would not be a issue then.

DavidPostill

> Server Error in '/' Application.

2

bwDraco

20:39

Keyboard's meh, but not an issue.

defalt

oh i posted in the wrong chatroom

bwDraco

1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0, all Type-A (no fancy ports). Full-size SD card slot, HDMI, Ethernet, and headphone jacks.

allquixotic

@DavidPostill TRWTF is IIS

bwDraco

On the heels of this post yesterday:

23 hours ago, by bwDraco

I have several questions regarding reinstallation of Windows 10 on a cheap laptop with 32 GB of eMMC storage.

At least I will not be on such tight storage constraints.

64 GB is still not much, but at least I should not have to worry about low storage causing issues when updating, etc.

Your thoughts, @allq?

allquixotic

20:55

@bwDraco played with systems of a similar caliber in the past and didn't find them tremendously useful; I'm kind of a resource snob

bwDraco

(Celeron N3350: 2C/2T Goldmont (Apollo Lake) @ 1.1-2.4 GHz.)

allquixotic

today I could get by with 8 GiB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD for dev + youtube + productivity purposes (no gaming), but for comfort I need a modern i7, 16 GiB and a terabyte SSD :P

bwDraco

Heh.

This is basically in the spirit of JMG's HP Stream 11.

allquixotic

my MBP 15" is an i7-6820HQ, 16 GiB LPDDR3, 2 TiB SSD, Radeon Pro 460 + Skylake GT2 on-board graphics

bwDraco

I'm building a Ryzen desktop soon, as you know, but I kinda need a better mobile productivity solution since I can't carry my gaming laptop any more.

I'm not asking for much.

bwDraco

21:13

Unboxed the system, not much inside: just the laptop itself, AC adapter, and a small pack of documentation.

For reference, this is the Best Buy-exclusive Lenovo Flex 4 1130: bestbuy.com/site/…

Ben N

@DavidPostill All of Microsoft Blogs is down :(

bwDraco

Most common complaint is poor performance, but that's unavoidable for a sub-$300 laptop.

@JourneymanGeek: just got a new, cheapie ($230) laptop at the local electronics store; start from chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37418522#37418522

I'm kinda surprised at what you can get these days, even if it's slow.

A third of the RAM in my phone, for crying out loud, but $230? Can't beat that.

DavidPostill

@BenN I wonder if they forgot to patch their servers :)

bwDraco

21:35

Going through the initial setup...

Yikes. Windows 10 v1511. This is going to need a big update...

I was hoping it was running at least v1607 out of the box...

The factory image at least isn't too bloated. It has Lenovo utilities, McAfee LiveSafe, and an Office 365 trial on it, but not much else.

I've seen far, far worse.

I don't know if I want to put Norton Security on it. I still have a couple of license seats left on my subscription, but I'm kinda leaning towards using stock Windows Defender given the resource constraints.

Ben N

I would be inclined to just lay down a Windows 10 1703 image on it

And go with Windows Defender

(or Windows Defender Antivirus, as it's called now)

bwDraco

Hmm. System has about 42 GB free disk space. Not bad.

Windows 10 can be pretty compact on resource-constrained systems.

It's entirely passively cooled. CPU's pegged.

Not seeing any throttling (yet).

CPU's throttling a little bit, doing 2.2 GHz. Not unexpected.

(maxes out at 2.3 GHz)

Display isn't particularly bright at 100%, but again, not a surprise for a $230 system. I'll do measurements later, but can't really work the colorimeter while the machine's busy updating...

It does get rather warm under constant load.

Unplugging the system doesn't noticeably impact performance.

...okay, the max speed is 2.4 GHz on one core and 2.3 GHz on both.

We're definitely memory-constrained and virtual memory compression is in full swing.

As for network performance, the Wi-Fi is getting the full 120 Mbps of my Internet connection.

The system's surprisingly responsive but application launch times are very slow. (Yet again, not a surprise.)

May 7 at 21:52, by bwDraco

2017 CUNY Baseball Championship (Game 2)

►

The photographer on the left is me :-)

Burgi

22:15

@bwDraco you don't look like a dragon

bwDraco

Heh.

Suffice it to say I'm a shapeshifter :P

Burgi

are those guys playing touch rugby or something?

bwDraco

@Burgi That's just the players celebrating after winning the championship.

Burgi

ah

i'm at a stag party on saturday

bwDraco

Battery life seems to be pretty decent even when the system's running full-bore. By my estimate, 4h seems to be worst-case battery life, with 6h advertised. Granted, this is subpar these days for this class (low-power netbook), but it's not bad.

Burgi

22:22

we are going karting

bwDraco

Have fun :)

Burgi

turns out the karts are electric

vimeo.com/191628504

is it bad that i'm researching the track layout?

DavidPostill

@Burgi Not if you want to win! ;p

Burgi

thats what i'm thinking!

the video is really useful actually

it shows the braking points

watch me now do terribly

i think might be the lightest in the group, but i have weedy arms

you can't grind muscles in 5 days

DavidPostill

@Burgi You can each lots of spinach though ;p

Burgi

22:34

you think farts might increase the thrust?

bwDraco

...so, this system is the first to get a demonic name: Bifrons.

Burgi

when i met commander hadfield, someone in the audience asked him about bodily functions. basically he said its a little disappointing because it doesn't work because the "nozzle" is the wrong shape....

DavidPostill

@Burgi Fast Acting Ram Turbo Speed

2

bwDraco

Apr 11 at 6:27, by bwDraco

I intend to name my systems after theological demons.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Just how many systems are you planning on ~~buying~~ naming?

bwDraco

22:38

@DavidPostill Oh, I'm not concerned about the namespace. It's large enough.

DavidPostill

List of theological demons

This is a list of demons that appear in religion, theology, demonology, mythology, and folklore. It is not a list of names of demons, although some are listed by more than one name. The list of fictional demons includes those from literary fiction with theological aspirations, such as Dante's Inferno. Because numerous Lists of legendary creatures concern mythology, folklore, and folk fairy tales, much overlap may be expected. Names of God, list of deities, and list of deities in fiction concern God and gods. == Key == Each entry names a demon and gives a source in parentheses. Sources nam...

It's a big list :)

Burgi

my current machine is called "titan", i've kinda maxxed out....

bwDraco

Feb 27 '15 at 2:29, by Journeyman Geek

@Bob: For reference: Athena, Artemis, Juno, Nyx, Hestia (raspi), Phoebe, Cloacina. Bia is currently semi retired, tho could be used for a future fileserver. Retired names are kitten, tamandua, blackbeauty. Oh, and My dad's netbook is called Ash ;p

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco nice selection of ports. and eh, being a lenovo, in this day and age I'd do that fresh install and careful selection of what you need

My stream is mostly the same

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Seems to be one of the cleaner system images I've seen out of the box.

Downloading Windows 10 v1607 via Windows Update...

@JourneymanGeek Not sure I'm going through a clean install, but I'm not too worried.

It's a recent system. I doubt it has any undesirable software on it.

support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish

support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/lse_bios_notebook

Not affected by either.

Can't tell what the display material is, but it's probably mineral glass or plastic (I can't tell). I don't expect Gorilla Glass at this price point.

bwDraco

23:31

...and Bifrons is being restarted for the first round of updates, including a feature update to v1607.

I suspect it'll take a while before I can continue setup, given the slow processor and limited memory.

Bob

morning

bwDraco

roar

Just got myself a new, cheap laptop; start here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37418522#37418522

It's in the spirit of JMG's HP Stream 11, but a bit better.

> Don't turn off your PC. This will take a while.

s/a while/a very long time/

But 100% expected for a netbook of this sort.

refills coffee mug

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