Root Access

allquixotic

5:21 PM

hi guys

Recycle Bin

hi

im not male btw

lego worlds > minecraft

Uhm... Ok?

oh wait I am a male

Ok...

5:38 PM

@Bob lol

DavidPostill

@RecycleBin Did you have to check ;?

Dave

@DavidPostill do you know the reasons behind chat.stackexchange.com not utilizing ssl?

allquixotic

@Bob get the email from OVH?

DavidPostill

@Dave Er no. What makes you think I would ;)

Dave

tcp sequence number prediction vulnerabilities are scarrrrrrrrry

qasdfdsaq

5:45 PM

@Dave Your face is scary.

Dave

@qasdfdsaq lol

allquixotic

@Dave I do. Chat is the lowest of low priorities for them. Their highest priority is Careers.SO. Their second highest priority is StackOverflow. Their third highest priority is Meta StackOverflow. Their fourth highest priority is the rest of the SE network. Their 1000000000000th highest priority is doing jack shit to make Chat better.

Dave

I'm used to being picked on. Although usually picked on with your mom jokes.

qasdfdsaq

Mine's scarier, but hey, nothing beats a good hypocrite once in a while.

@Dave Your mom is scary.

Dave

heh

;]

qasdfdsaq

5:46 PM

Woohoo £150 for three light bulbs

Fucks sake I've gone mad wasting money again

allquixotic

btw their 999999999999th priority (immediately in front of enhancing Chat) is to find and locate a mosquito with wing cancer and fight desperately to cure it and save its life so it can live another few hours.

Galois in the Field

About to sleep, but I must say @qasdfdsaq, your user picture triggers me

@qasdfdsaq I have post traumatic stress disorder induced by losing reputation on S.E

Dave

If i knew someone's ip address and were able to add another login of myself to anybody's profile on here.. and come in chat and talk as them? Would it make people chuckle?

:-)

Galois in the Field

@Dave Is this the real Dave speaking?

Dave

LMFAO

Galois in the Field

5:51 PM

:D

Oliver Salzburg

@Dave chat.stackexchange.com works though

Dave

yes it is the real dave speaking, It's just i study not only networking and databases but hardcore freeking hacking of ownership security as well.

Then again I grew up on irc in infosec rooms with groups that audited softwares for vulnerabilites back when bugtraq, rootshell and a few other infosites were around. Never did anything malicious though, just educational purposes.

qasdfdsaq

@GaloisintheField :(

Bob

@allquixotic what email?

Oh Google dumped it in promotions

Would've noticed on my desktop (Thunderbird) but it doesn't ping my phone

allquixotic

6:07 PM

what does 4h55m of downtime do to the SLA for the month? 43200 minutes in November. 295 minutes down. (43200-295) / 43200 = 99.317% uptime.

ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sla.xml?range=INFRA

SLA on Infrastructure servers is 99.95%

(43200 - x) / 43200 = 0.9995. 43200 - x = (43200 * 0.9995) = 43178.4. x = 43200 - 43178.4 ==> their SLA implies anything more than 21.6 minutes of downtime per month is a breach of their SLA

273 minutes of "excess downtime in breach of SLA" -- with a refund of 5% per "hour of delay" -- in 4h55m there are 4 whole hours (rounding down) of delay, which means I should get a refund of 20% on my server for the month :D

however, 55 - 21 = 34, so technically they were out for more than half of the 5th hour, so I should get 25%

or 22.5% - I'd take that

Bob

7:09 PM

Oh yea, @allquixotic, seen this?

9 hours ago, by Bob

> If you have Verizon, you can get the g4 for 452 bucks. Use code lgg4save at checkout. Lg also has a $200 rebate I'd you buy it from Verizon, so that's basically $252 for a flagship OFF CONTRACT phone.

I don't know how true that is.

Oh, ended October: lgg4octoberrebate.com/default.asp

O_O

@allquixotic reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3rid26/… msdn.microsoft.com/EN-US/library/office/mt616485.aspx

> Excel JavaScript API

> JavaScript API for Office

On the other hand...

> We love VBA, and we plan to keep it around for the foreseeable future.

Oh god. Cross-platform VBA?

> It's amazing sometimes what people can and do use Excel for. I used to do a lot of market research. One common thread across all the product categories that I talked with people about was how much people tend to stick with the tools they know. If they can make a familiar tool work, many folks will tend to do so. You mix that tendency with Excel's broad capabilities and you can end up with some pretty elaborate workbooks. If it works for folks, who are we to judge?

Heh.

Sounds familiar.

allquixotic

7:29 PM

lol, no kidding

Bob

Huh, they extended the rebate.

allquixotic

@Bob it's tempting, but unfortunately I can't activate a G4 on FreedomPop

Bob

:\

allquixotic

they only support certain oldish Sprint phones for BYOD

Bob

Time for a family member to upgrade? :P

(kidding, kidding)

Michael Frank

7:32 PM

@Bob Gah! Then we IT people have to try and figure out if it's your stupid workbook that's broken or the Excel install.

Bob

@MichaelFrank Go complain to the Excel team :P

They started that thing two hours ago. I think they're still there.

allquixotic

@Bob Mom has a Note 4. She says it's sufficient for her needs. She's also come to like the S Pen.

Bob

@allquixotic Is there any reason they need a carrier-specific phone?

allquixotic

@Bob wouldn't it be hilarious if the LG G4 didn't have the bluetooth issue and I could dump Apple less than a year after going all-in with them?

Bob

@allquixotic Thing is, I don't have the BT issue AFAICT :P

allquixotic

7:36 PM

@Bob They're a Sprint MVNO. Frequency bands or something. Not sure on the details

@Bob But you're in Australia. Things are different over there.

You've never actually reproduced the BT issue. Nor has Mokubai in the UK.

Bob

@allquixotic How so? Weather patterns? :P

allquixotic

I'm seriously thinking the BT issue is specific to US phones.

Bob

@allquixotic I don't really want to update my S4 to test, unfortunately.

allquixotic

@Bob Firmware tweaks made to make the FCC happy?

Bob

I did experience the BT issue with that other cheapo phone, but that one had a really slow proc.

Though... it didn't have it before I installed KitKat (via CM11).

So, yea. I reproduced with CM11.

allquixotic

7:38 PM

If the $39.99 LG Volt that's coming to me from FreedomPop lacks the BT issue, I'm going to throw random objects across my room. Seriously. If a crap phone is better than the last 3 flagships I've bought from 2 manufacturers...

Bob

Stock pre-KitKat was fine.

allquixotic

Although IT COULD BE some specific background ~~malware~~ service that VERIZON bundles with (all) of their specific phones...

in which case, a FreedomPop phone wouldn't have it

Bob

Any really cheap Verizon phone you could test? Or, alternatively, do they have a cooldown period (refund if you're not happy with it)?

allquixotic

If it's seriously a Verizon-specific firmware issue, do you think I'd be able to bring a carrier unlocked phone over to Verizon and activate it and get access to all of their features, like VoLTE?

Bob

(I'm just curious about what's actually causing this - it's probably too much trouble to bother.)

allquixotic

7:40 PM

@Bob They probably don't have a cooldown if you're buying in full retail as I'd have to

can't use upgrades anymore

Bob

@allquixotic I don't know... you'd have to ask them.

While we do have carriers using different frequencies here, we pretty much just have to make sure the phone supports the right bands.

allquixotic

anyway, I will test Bluetooth audio with my LG Volt when it arrives - that will give me a truly "non-Verizon" phone to test with

another thing to keep in mind is that FreedomPop is 100% GSM, they don't use any CDMA frequencies, so if the Bluetooth problem is related to CDMA interference, only Verizon and AT&T customers would experience it.

But then it would be software-independent

which means my iPhone would have the problem

so it's not CDMA itself, because my iPhone spews CDMA constantly and it's flawless

Bob

@allquixotic Heh, I'm actually considering helping you buy that G4.

If nothing else, you'd have an awesome camera :D

allquixotic

Let me read up more on the offer for the G4 to see if it's valid for people who don't want to lose their unlimited data

have to search for terms like "with 2 year contract activation"

Bob

@allquixotic Oh, that's another thing. My current SIM doesn't have LTE enabled.

I'm still waiting for my MVNO provider to finish their switch to a new network and send me a new SIM.

But we haven't even been notified directly yet, so who knows how long that'll take.

allquixotic

7:43 PM

@Bob Well, one commonality between all of the phones exhibiting the problem that I've owned, is that all of them have been LTE

However, the HTC Thunderbolt and the Droid Razr Maxx, despite being fully LTE phones, and the Droid Razr Maxx HD before the KitKat upgrade, never exhibited the problem

Bob

@allquixotic Might be how the radios are positioned?

Though that would have to be common to Exynos and Snapdragon.

@allquixotic Yea, the whole software upgrade thing makes LTE usage less likely to be related.

allquixotic

I've never tested on Exynos. The only source of knowledge I have about Exynos users with the problem is the Android bug report where people with the Galaxy S6 have complained of the same symptom

Bob

@allquixotic Huh, didn't you have an Exynos Samsung phone?

allquixotic

@Bob An Exynos processor has never entered my house

Bob

o.o

> Well, there is a hope or most of us having issues with skips while playing music localy from sdcard or phone memmory (not streaming).
Seems like the problem is in the kernel itself. Using Kernel Adiutor (g.play) i changed cpu governor from interactive to performance. It eats up battery a little bit faster, but so far im listening music already 4th sessions (5-6h) without single skip. Its a record since i can remember. Im running LG G4 rooted, stock rom 10E.
Ill let ya all know in few days if changing governor really fixed this bluetooth issue.

WELP.

Same guy later:

> Nope, nope...ehh it wasnt cpu governor fault. Everything is still f**** up.
Fu**** biggest mystery of Android system ever lol
Damn bluetooth

That's a different ROM too.

The SEA and TWN variants are currently on V10d (updated day before yesterday).

IIRC some US carriers are on a different stream entirely.

So V10e there isn't actually newer than V10d here.

...huh. I just noticed. G4 software version is V10d-TWN-XX (for me). LG now has a phone called the V10.

allquixotic

7:48 PM

Moto Droid 2 (3G EvDO), HTC Thunderbolt (first-gen LTE, pre-Snapdragon QCOM chip), Droid Razr Maxx (first-gen LTE; early Snapdragon), Droid Razr Maxx HD (second-gen LTE; Snapdragon S4; first phone with the problem after KK upgrade), Droid Maxx (third-gen LTE (AWS); Snapdragon S4; always had the problem), Galaxy S5 (LTE with carrier aggregation, Snapdragon 800, always had problem), Note 4 (LTE with carrier aggregation, Snapdragon 810, always had problem)

Bob

Interesting.

allquixotic

That's the entire history of my family's ownership of Android smartphones

Bob

@allquixotic Guy in issue thread mentioned turning off wifi location helped with his G4

I keep location off on my phone

hm

allquixotic

nah, that didn't help me.

Bob

shrug just another mystery

You might be on to something about the US.

Mokubai

7:55 PM

@allquixotic I think your problem is that your government is trying to insert subliminal messages in your music

And obviously they're failing because you keep noticing the gaps rather than ignoring them like a good little sheep

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Mokubai

8:13 PM

I mean, I don't notice any David Cameron is a great bloke gaps in my music...

qasdfdsaq

DERP

Mokubai

Hey @qasdfdsaq

qasdfdsaq

Why are you praising David Cunteron?

Mokubai

I don't know what you mean, he's a sleazy politician...

qasdfdsaq

Oh good

We haven't all lost our minds

I was just confused by the "great bloke" bit

Mokubai

8:15 PM

But they're all a bunch of coonts. He's possibly not quite as bad as some of the alternatives...

DavidPostill

@Mokubai Politions are sleazy by definition!

qasdfdsaq

The only coont worse than him is Farage

I wish Zara Larsson was sleazy

Mokubai

!!google Zara Larsson

ChatBot John Cavil

@Mokubai * Zara Larsson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ; Zara Larsson (@zaralarsson) • Instagram photos and videos ; Zara Larsson (@zaralarsson) | Twitter

qasdfdsaq

Useful.

Mokubai

8:17 PM

Wasn't sure if I wanted her in my search history... ;)

DavidPostill

Hmm. Read the comments ;)

qasdfdsaq

Incognito ftw.

DavidPostill

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Q: How do i find a the ip address of a server in a homegroup

I have a problem the I have a number of system connected to a system that acts as a server , the problem is that if this local server turns off and on restart it's IP might change for that system , Then how will the remain devices find out the new IP address of this server. I am a really new to ...

qasdfdsaq

Poor guy, @DavidPostill you're confusing him!

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq I'm trying my best to unconfuse him!

qasdfdsaq

8:20 PM

Once you confuse, some people you can't unconfuse

Like, some things on the internet you cannot unsee

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq Was that said by Confusious? ;)

qasdfdsaq

Now I'm confused

So I managed to break someone else's wireless network by trying to rename it to "Jessie J's Fleshlight"

DavidPostill

Confucius

Confucius (/kənˈfjuːʃəs/; September 28, 551 – 479 BC) was a Chinese teacher, editor, politician, and philosopher of the Spring and Autumn period of Chinese history. The philosophy of Confucius emphasized personal and governmental morality, correctness of social relationships, justice and sincerity. His followers competed successfully with many other schools during the Hundred Schools of Thought era only to be suppressed in favor of the Legalists during the Qin Dynasty. Following the victory of Han over Chu after the collapse of Qin, Confucius's thoughts received official sanction and were further...

qasdfdsaq

He should be called confusedicus

Morgan Thrapp

What's the easiest way to copy text from an ssh session?

Nevermind, figured it out.

Dave

9:15 PM

was going to say, it really depends on the ssh client you're using

qasdfdsaq

And the OS you're using it on

Dave

yea

Dave

9:28 PM

oh nice apoo dubar from india just endorsed me on linked in for databases and I have NO idea who he is..

xda-developers.com/…

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Well that turned into an XY problem...

Canadian Luke

@qasdfdsaq And he rolled back the revisions to improve the question

qasdfdsaq

lol

It's almost as if some people don't want to get an answer

DavidPostill

9:45 PM

@CanadianLuke Hmm. I rolled it back to your version again. Let's see what happens ;)

qasdfdsaq

Is there a limit on rollbacks or does it just end up in rollback wars?

DavidPostill

There's a limit but I can't remember what is is. I think a mod gets flagged automatically after a certain number.

I don't think we have any SU mods in the room at the moment ...

I will flag as a dupe of @CanadianLuke's new question <evil laugh> ;)

qasdfdsaq

Lol

DavidPostill

Oh dear I can't as I already cast a VTC as unclear ... :(

Please flag as a dupe of superuser.com/questions/996130/…. We might have to wait for @CanadianLuke to accept his own answer first ...

Mokubai

Damn stupid idea to hardcode IP addresses so that software knows where to update itself.

Canadian Luke

10:01 PM

I agree

qasdfdsaq

Oh that's what he wants to do?

Just use local discovery ffs

Canadian Luke

It's still an X/Y problem

qasdfdsaq

I know it's a problem. Quite what the X or Y is I've no clue

And why is an XY problem called an XY problem anyway

Canadian Luke

I'll look for the post

720

Q: What is the XY problem?

What is the XY problem? When asking questions, how do I recognize when I'm falling into it? How do I avoid it? Return to FAQ index

discussion faq asking-questions terminology

qasdfdsaq

Ah mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem

Now I get what the X and Y stand for

Can we just troll the user into doing Z?

Canadian Luke

10:05 PM

Nah, that's not setting a good example

qasdfdsaq

Maybe setting good examples just isn't my style

Mokubai

@qasdfdsaq Is Z running fdisk on every machine he has access to? 'Cause while that's tempting it would be a Bad Thing™

qasdfdsaq

Nah. I'm mischevious, not malicious.

Something more like changing his homepage to youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ on every machine

Canadian Luke

There's lots we could tell him to do, but should we?

Mokubai

@qasdfdsaq Knew what the link would be, still clicked it. Gotta love that 80's vibe.

You can just feel the cheese

qasdfdsaq

10:09 PM

:D

I'm trying to program my lights to react to the music and using that as a test

It's not working well :(

Mokubai

The f8ck?!?!?!?

Canadian Luke

@qasdfdsaq There should be documentation about how to do that

Mokubai

Firefox has a "this tab is making noise" button on each tab. And clicking it mutes the fsking tab!!!!

Holy hell THAT IS AWESOME!

Canadian Luke

Sweet! What version of FF are you using?

qasdfdsaq

@CanadianLuke There's documentation?

Mokubai

10:12 PM

@CanadianLuke 42.0

qasdfdsaq

Dang, Chrome's one just shows it, but doesn't mute it

Mokubai

Seems to work with Youtube at least

qasdfdsaq

But what an obvious thing to do, crikey

That's both genius and bleeding simple at once

Guess I might be switching back to Firefox in a few versions time

Canadian Luke

Welp. Time for an update

Oooo! Ahhh!

@Mokubai What would be required to turn my question into a mega-close-as-dupe thread?

qasdfdsaq

Bribery huh

Mokubai

10:19 PM

@CanadianLuke having a lot of questions closed as a dupe of it.... ?

That would probably work

Canadian Luke

Dang... I'll be right back, need to open 50 sock puppet accounts...

qasdfdsaq

-_-

Mokubai

@CanadianLuke 50? Pah, lightweight.

Journeyman Geek

I didn't know about the muting but I noticed the noise making

Mokubai

It's fully awesome!

qasdfdsaq

10:28 PM

Ermm, which one is the live and which one is the neutral in an E27 socket?

Mokubai

It gives you a way to see which youtube tabs are wasting bandwidth

qasdfdsaq

@Mokubai I just use disable youtube autoplay

Mokubai

Holy hell! It works on the pinned chat tabs as well! A little noise icon just appeared and then vanished!

qasdfdsaq

LOL

Mokubai

Sorry. It's cool. I'm calm.

qasdfdsaq

10:29 PM

the connectors have two giant labels on them saying "L" and "N"

Mokubai

Journeyman Geek

should it matter? 0_0

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Yes. Touching one is far more likely to kill you than the other.

Also cheap RCDs only protect one

Journeyman Geek

ahh

qasdfdsaq

And I don't plan on dying today

Not to say I won't, but if I do, it will be unplanned.

Journeyman Geek

10:43 PM

I mean, for a bulb

I wouldn't touch either.

(I'm leery of high voltages after the PSU incident)

qasdfdsaq

Yeah the bulb doesn't care.

Just less likely to be problems for me down the line if it's wired correctly

@JourneymanGeek PSU incident? Oh do tell

Lol, there's an app to make my light bulbs simulate a thunderstorm

Journeyman Geek

So, I was young and foolish. Well I might be old and foolish now but I digress. I had a PSU with a bad fan and figured I'd save a few dollars by splicing in a spare fan. Might have worked. I was doing it with a plugged in PSU. Which wouldn't have been so bad. But one of the heatsinks was live, and separated from the case by a dollop of white gunk. Touched said heatsink, got a shock, arm luckily spasmed hard, and I was sore for 3 days.

qasdfdsaq

Ouch.

That said, why on earth was the heatsink live...

(And to be honest, working on mains powered electronics without unplugging them is pretty foolish, yeah)

In fact you don't usually even get heatsinks on the primary side

Journeyman Geek

1) No idea. And it seperated from the case. By what seemed like silicone sealent?

2) Yes. I did say young and foolish. And it wasn't even a nice PSU

qasdfdsaq

Was it solid or liquidy?

Journeyman Geek

10:57 PM

solid

qasdfdsaq

Could have been just glue

Journeyman Geek

almost like caulk

and white

and it was all that was keeping that murderous manslaughtering deathtrap of a heatsink from the metal casing of the psu

qasdfdsaq

Probably glue. Could have been there as an insulator, heat conductor, or just plain physical support

Journeyman Geek

If it wasn't an insulator, anyone touching that case would have been shocked.

qasdfdsaq

An amplifier I took apart once had two layers of thermal paste, separated by a thin sheet of transparent plastic as an insulator

And a metal screw going through the middle :-/

Journeyman Geek

11:00 PM

lol

qasdfdsaq

But hey you survived

Journeyman Geek

yup

and I intend to keep surviving

qasdfdsaq

Just use an RCD

Modern safety rated RCDs are so good they'll cut off the electricity so quickly you won't even feel a shock

Journeyman Geek

Also common sense

qasdfdsaq

Nah, RCDs work even when your common sense isn't

Mokubai

11:05 PM

How appropriate. ..

qasdfdsaq

Well y'know. When people do the electrical equivalent of reformatting by accident.

Or when they're just drunk

Or when you have cats that like to nibble on cables

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek ^^

Journeyman Geek

We wouldn't ever have a cat

(for some reason my culture hates cats)

qasdfdsaq

Internet... is my culture

... And Internet culture somehow has an irrational obsession over cats

Journeyman Geek

I don't mind cats. I'd never tree one. But my mom would be like "ugh, they're unclean" for about 10 minutes or so.

qasdfdsaq

11:17 PM

Heh.

Journeyman Geek

(Then go awwww.)

qasdfdsaq

They're relatively good at keeping themselves clean as far as pets go

Journeyman Geek

lol

(Of course we didn't get a dog for years cause it was "too much work")

qasdfdsaq

Dogs are too much work? Pah

Cats are basically dogs that clean themselevs = less work! :D

Cats also clean up their own shit

Dang I got a +1 rep from somewhere and can't tell where

Ah looks like an answer I downvoted got deleted

Heh. Well that 2-year-old question I was complaining about earlier that had 3 wrong answers with no downvotes has now gone to -1, -3 and deleted.

Journeyman Geek

any pets are too ~~cute~~ much work

qasdfdsaq

11:28 PM

Too cute? There's no such thing as too cute. That's like complaining stuff makes me too happy

My computer is too fast

My salary is too high

Journeyman Geek

too cute is why we have em?

(We almost didn't have a dog. It was an accidental adoption)

qasdfdsaq

Oh you had a dog?

You accidentally adopted a dog?

Journeyman Geek

Accidentally

qasdfdsaq

Well this is interesting. Since my chmod incident generated three comments with 9 stars each, I've not seen anything else go above 3

Making fun of me must be really popular around here

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: We have a dog

But we didn't buy him. He was left with us "temporarily". Original owner bought him without telling her husband, huge fight. Left him with us temporarily.

Dog decided he liked us more and refused to go back, and that lady didn't really care