Fake Programmers

Ivo Flipse

13:31

@OliverSalzburg the GTX650TI benchmarks are in!

Oliver Salzburg

13:42

Woah I'm so angry right now >:(

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg :O

@OliverSalzburg I hope the result was a SU question with one of your answers

That would be the ultimate irony, hehe

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse No, it was a German blog article because he obviously uses German Google :P

Ivo Flipse

I use the Dutch Google too, but mostly to get better localized results

Oliver Salzburg

The balls on that guy...

Ivo Flipse

What was the problem?

How constructive

I bet he thought you just wanted to upsell them, by billing them for doing more work

sigh

Oliver Salzburg

13:52

The amount of disrespect is mind boggling :P

Ivo Flipse

Not sure what you should do, I'm not sure if your boss would them him to piss off, because well the "client is king" BS

Ah, that helps :P

Oliver Salzburg

Well, I always try to handle that as professional as possible and let my boss deal with it.

But I would love to give that guy a piece of my mind :P

Oliver Salzburg

14:49

@IvoFlipse So about those benchmarks... g

Ivo Flipse

anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review

I'm torn :P

On the one hand I enjoy gaming with the GTX460, Counter Strike works fine on the big screen even

So a 650ti would be a nice upgrade and be sufficient

But the prices for 2Gb models seem to go towards 180€ which make the difference with the 660ti seem a lot smaller :P

All reviews say it isn't fit for 1080p and higher though

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse Ouch

Heheh

Ivo Flipse

Same problem here

No idea whether you got any of my complaints :P

Oliver Salzburg

Oh, the card has a R36 part. It must be good! :D

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg What is that?

Oliver Salzburg

14:57

Volkswagen Passat

The Volkswagen Passat is a large family car marketed by Volkswagen through six design generations since 1973. Between the Volkswagen Golf / Volkswagen Jetta and the Volkswagen Phaeton in the current Volkswagen line-up, the Passat and its derivatives have been badged variously as Dasher, Santana, Quantum, Magotan, Corsar and Carat. The successive generations of the Passat carry the VW internal designations B1, B2, etc. In 2008, Volkswagen extended its range with the launch of the Passat CC, a "four-door coupé" version of the Passat. Volkswagen currently markets two variants of the Passa...

It's a certain type of car ;P

Ivo Flipse

I would be more impressed if it were a RS6 :P

Oliver Salzburg

Indeed... :D

I really shouldn't be looking at that review. I just played a game yesterday and it ran fine

The game being Torchlight 2

Ivo Flipse

I liked playing Diablo with my current card too

Worse, the card seems to get clobbered by an AMD card

And I'd prefer to stick to NVidia

Oliver Salzburg

I'm not an AMD fan. Wasn't an ATI fan when I was still doing 3D dev. I'll stick with that as well

Ivo Flipse

I also still want to give CUDA a shot some day :P

If I ever learn how to program that crap

or work with 3D scans

Also the 660ti would have the benefit of completely replacing my 460

Which would keep the TDP in check

> The fact of the matter is that from a price/performance perspective the $149 GTX 650 Ti 1GB is not competitive enough with the $169 Radeon HD 7850 1GB.

:(

Oliver Salzburg

15:15

I've always been an Nvidia lover. One time I let my neighbor talk me into an ATI flagship card

That purchase was a mistake and I regret it

Ivo Flipse

Screw it, I'm going to get a 660ti

even if it hurts my wallet

Stupid that the 650 ti comes with Assassins Creed, whereas the 660 comes with Borderland

And I can finally turn up ALL the dials

Oliver Salzburg

How much does it cost in EUR? Where are you ordering?

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg Auch, I'm looking at a 1036€ bill

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse For the whole system?

Ivo Flipse

Azerty, which is an online retailer that has pretty reasonable prices and good service. Besides there are no retailers nearby

Its 299

Oliver Salzburg

15:27

Woah

Ivo Flipse

But I'm also getting a NAS + 2*2tb disk, upgrade the ram and add a SSD :P

Oliver Salzburg

Damn

Yeah, that's a sweet upgrade

Ivo Flipse

Well getting, that's what I want to get :P

I need more storage, I can't run my experiments with my current space

I want a SSD for Windows 8 that has sufficient space

and I'm getting seriously memory limited by Chrome + Python

Oh and I need a mouse :P

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse I feel your pain!

Ivo Flipse

Any suggestions?

Oliver Salzburg

15:29

That's all Chrome!

Ivo Flipse

Whatever the hell spawned so many processes is beyond me

Oliver Salzburg

Find the tab that uses 430MB and close it! :D

Ivo Flipse

I always have a ton of video's open too

Oliver Salzburg

Well, 16 GB is not enough RAM. I guess we can agree on that :D

Ivo Flipse

The top tab seems Gmail, then Edx Python, Google Docs (huge 100+ page report), Flash, Another course, chat, another course, another course :P

@OliverSalzburg Yeah, you convinced me about the quad channel

Not sure whether I'll have to upgrade to Haswell after reading some platform previews

Oliver Salzburg

15:32

@IvoFlipse I did? I remember reading some quad channel talk in Root Access...

Ivo Flipse

But by then my CPU will be nearly 2 years old

@OliverSalzburg Ah, well might have been someone else

And you telling me I needed 32 :P

Oliver Salzburg

Possibly :)

Ivo Flipse

I wonder if anything about those prices is about to change

Though had I bought it 2 weeks ago, it would have saved me 2% taxes :P

Oliver Salzburg

The last time I waited a week to purchase my hardware, there was a flood in Indonesia and HDD prices jumped like 500%...

Ivo Flipse

Yeah, I had that last year

Oliver Salzburg

15:39

Most likely the same natural disaster ;D

Ivo Flipse

pastebin.com/XnPL0P0u

They're going to check for cheating at my Scala course :(

How on earth am I going to learn Scala without any help

and their forums suck at getting help

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse Sounds reasonable

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg github.com/Zhilmoen/coursera_scala/blob/master/funsets/src/main/…

Do you have any idea how to write that code?

Granted I didn't read his whole book

but getting the syntax right is such a pain in the ass

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse I don't even know what Scala is about

Ivo Flipse

functional programming

Oliver Salzburg

15:52

@IvoFlipse Well, I know that much :D

But I never really had anything where it seemed beneficial to apply functional programming

Ivo Flipse

More a mindset that comes with it

Oliver Salzburg

Good point

Ivo Flipse

Like I write a piece of code that applies a function to each item in a list or array

In functional programming, you often end up writing very abstract functions that could easily be applied to similar problems

without having to tweak your code for every special little variation

And its a nice exercise in computational mathematics

In the above example we had to write our own set operations, like union and intersect

This week we had to write a filter that would find the most retweeted tweets about apple and google

Oliver Salzburg

Heh. I just had an interesting, short problem. Photoshop would not accept any drag & drop operation even though I was sure that it normally does.

Ivo Flipse

Did you try turning it on and off?

Oliver Salzburg

15:59

Luckily I'm aware of what the cause usually is (permission context)

Ivo Flipse

In the reversed order though :P

@OliverSalzburg Which means?

Oliver Salzburg

The .psd I had opened, I searched for that using Everything. Everything is started with administrative privileges. So when I clicked on the file in Everything, Photoshop was started with adminstrative privileges

Thus, I wasn't able to drag&drop to it from an application that ran in a non-elevated context (like Windows Explorer)

Ivo Flipse

Ah, I never have such problems :P

Oliver Salzburg

So I just had to restart Photoshop and re-open the file

Ivo Flipse

Voila :) I just run as admin, though I probably shouldn't and/or don't have to

Oliver Salzburg

16:03

It's fun when cause and effect are so far from each other :D

For varying definitions of "fun"

AlanTuring

16:44

sup people

Nathan Wheeler

18:04

@AlanTuring apparently not a lot

Ivo Flipse

I'm checking out hardware, that's what's up

Nathan Wheeler

I'm building, rebuilding, refactoring, rebuilding... fixing bugs, rebuilding...

sitting in a corner in the fetal position rocking back and forth and whimpering

Ivo Flipse

@NathanWheeler What task do you have then?

Nathan Wheeler

I'm redesigning a central part of the way our platform functions

it's not bad, just... touchy

Ivo Flipse

18:23

Well I bit the bullet and bought the new hardware :D

Nathan Wheeler

and a few method names are entirely misleading... like SerializeFromXml... which you would expect to take values from XML and put them into properties in an object... actually just takes the XmlNode, drops it into a property in the object, then all the rest of the properties in the object use xpaths on that XmlNode to get their values

(sorry, got interrupted twice before I could finish typing that)

really messes you up if you go to replace that node with something else, especially from another document

@IvoFlipse what new hardware did you buy?

Ivo Flipse

That has a pretty high price tag for not being a complete computer :P

At least when you don't have a big company paying it for you

Nathan Wheeler

19:06

yeah, looks nice though

Ivo Flipse

I hope so too

Nathan Wheeler

what does "vaste schijf" translate to?

Ivo Flipse

The RAM should keep me save for the next CPU upgrade too, I don't expect next gen (Haswell CPUs) mobo's to support 32+ Gb of ram

What else has 2 tb? :P

Nathan Wheeler

I assume "grafische kaart" is "graphics card"

Ivo Flipse

Vast = hard or actually solid. But its meant to indicate hard disks

yup

Nathan Wheeler

19:09

ok, hard disk... I knew what it was indicating, but couldn't figure out the words

Ivo Flipse

So its a NAS + 2 * 2tb HDDs + 256Gb SSD + 32 Gb RAM + GPU

Nathan Wheeler

(my general problem with foreign language... I know what you're talking about but I have no idea what the words are that you're using)

Ivo Flipse

@NathanWheeler I have foreign languages too you know ;P

Nathan Wheeler

makes it impossible to carry on a conversation for me

Ivo Flipse

Just less I guess

Nathan Wheeler

19:12

well... english is almost universal at this point

Ivo Flipse

In Spanish I can't hear where one word ends and the next one starts, which makes it hard to understand

@NathanWheeler I wouldn't mind if the whole world would start speaking English

Nathan Wheeler

although honestly, english is really poorly structured as languages go

Ivo Flipse

French has to go, even though its pretty structured

Nathan Wheeler

LoL

Ivo Flipse

Not a lot of exceptions, at least not in the French they teach in school

Spanish sucks too, but is pretty widely spread

well Chinese... :P

Nathan Wheeler

19:14

yeah, spanish runs a close second or third probably for universal language

as for most people having a native language, some asian or *nese (japanese, chinese, taiwanese, etc.) probably takes it

Ivo Flipse

List of languages by number of native speakers

The following tables list the 100 largest languages in the world by native speakers, roughly corresponding to languages with more than seven and a half million estimated native speakers, ordered by number of speakers. Two lists are given, which disagree in many particulars; other estimates will vary again, and the numbers should be taken as no more than an indication of the rough order of magnitude of a linguistic community. Since the definition of a single language is to some extent arbitrary, some mutually intelligible idioms with separate national standards or self-identification...

Nathan Wheeler

HAH! I was RIGHT :)

Ivo Flipse

Well that's native speakers only

Hmm forgot about Portuguese

Nathan Wheeler

yeah... Mandarin is Chin*ese*

/me must return to work

not getting anything done today

:)

Ivo Flipse

Good luck :)

Oliver Salzburg

19:25

@IvoFlipse That blows my mind!

Ivo Flipse

What part of it does?

Oliver Salzburg

Mostly the part that German is 11th and above French and Italian

I don't really know what I expected, but it's surprising

And Spanish is looking like a really attractive language to learn right now :D

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg 80 million inhabitants in Germany alone, add about 6 + 3-4 for Austria and Switzerland

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse I assumed French and/or Italian to be spoken in more countries globally, I guess.

Ivo Flipse

Also the neighboring countries can speak German (me included)

Where do they speak Italian except for Italy?

Right, Sweiss and this one city-state :P

Oliver Salzburg

19:34

I guess I was thinking of the Roman empire :D

Ivo Flipse

@OliverSalzburg Then a lot of people would be speaking Mongolian

Any experience with Android tablets btw?

Oliver Salzburg

@IvoFlipse Some

Meaning we have one in our household

Ivo Flipse

Buying the screen in Korea made me addicted to buying cheap crap from Asia :P

Oliver Salzburg

Heheh

Ivo Flipse

So I'm eyeing some cheap ass tablet to replace our iPad

They are approaching a spec point where anyone can make a decent tablet

Oliver Salzburg

19:38

The Samsung firmware on ours sucks, that's for sure :P

Ivo Flipse

Which is it?

I have a Galaxy Nexus, so I don't have to use their ugly skin

Oliver Salzburg

It's the Galaxy Tab AFAIK

Ivo Flipse

I wanted to remove it from my Mom's Galaxy SIII but because my sister helps her if she can't find something (who has a SII), I wasn't allowed to do so :P

Oliver Salzburg

Girlfriend has the SGS3 as well. I hate it :P

Well, I hate the Android version they put on it. And she won't let me put another ROM on it. Which is probably for the best :D

AlanTuring

20:20

why would you buy a barracuda

they are a notorious waste of money

much better to buy 2 drives and put them in RAID 0, you get the same performance at half the cost

Ivo Flipse

20:33

Actually that's the price of 2 drives

and I went with western digital, because they were in stock

AlanTuring

whats the price of 2drives?

still 90 euros for that is a lot

wait..

im confusing barracuda's with velociraptors lmfao

im an idiot

Ivo Flipse

20:53

100 because I took what was available

its for a nap and I only need space, not speed

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