Charcoal HQ

Rubiksmoose

14:00

@tripleee I'm certainly reconsidering it.

And I recall several other FPs in recent months now that my flags have actually started to get used somewhat. Though some of those FPs turned out to not be true FPs IIRC.

user435118

@Mast I'm not trying to argue, I linked you to a search which has numerous examples of "contact me" + email marked as NAA. As the large majority of posts like that are marked NAA, that is the policy we should follow. If you want to change this so it should be tpu instead or tp, you should make a post on Teams.

Rubiksmoose

Is there any place where I can see my autoflag history?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): How to center a button in jetpack Compose? by Ansh on stackoverflow.com

Rubiksmoose

I know where I can see my manual feedback, but as that is at 100% valid I don't think that includes autoflags?

Jeff Schaller

Given the intersection of "contact me for spam at spam@address" and "please send me the script to innocent@address", I'd think it'd be hard to have a policy that said "email is always X"

Spevacus

14:03

Outsider's POV: Simply saying "contact me here (email) for more help" (in relation to a question) is certainly unhelpful, but not spammy, it's not really promoting a product or service. If attached to the end of a useful answer, it should just be removed. If all the answer is is "hey email me (here) and i'll help you" then it definitely doesn't answer the question but doesn't promote a product per se. Of course: "contact me (email) to learn more about protein powder" on SO is def. spam.

user435118

@Rubiksmoose Here, note this won't be complete as the logs were wiped a month or so ago due to a bug.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body (1): not navigate to next page : Navigator operation requested with a context that does not include a Navigator by Ah Zeem khatib on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

user435118

@Rubiksmoose Can I have someplace to talk privately with you, please? Maybe a private room?

Rubiksmoose

@Daniil Sure. Do you want to create a room or shall I?

tripleee

@Spevacus this

Rubiksmoose

14:05

@Daniil thanks!

tripleee

if our policies imply otherwise they should be reviewed

user435118

@Rubiksmoose I'm on mobile so it would be preferred for you to create it.

Rubiksmoose

@Daniil On it.

Spevacus

@tripleee I think the contention is that it's not quite clear enough.

Let me have another read-through of the guidance real quick to see if maybe we could tighten that gap.

user435118

@Rubiksmoose Thanks :)

SmokeDetector

14:08

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad ns for domain in title (2): Stud.io 2.0 Sign-in by pkbpack18 on bricks.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): PYQT GUI Updating und showing a float signal via Qthread on a QLCD display in a second window doesnt work by VvV on stackoverflow.com

Rubiksmoose

@Daniil I do feel silly because I knew this is where I should go, but until a month or so ago it was always empty for me. Oops!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link following arrow in body (97): WebRTC with STUN-Server and PeerJS with NodeJS + socket.io ✏️ by Horus Sirius on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How does a MU-MIMO device with more antennas behave on a network with less? by nevets138 on superuser.com

Machavity

@Mast FWIW I agree with Daniil. A post asking for mere contact via email isn't spam. It's when you want people to contact you for something other than help with the subject of the post that that it becomes spam

SmokeDetector

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user435118

@Machavity A new person could even post their email because they want more info for example.

Robert Columbia

14:22

@Makyen you're welcome and thank you!

user12986714

!!/report stackoverflow.com/questions/46936004/…

SmokeDetector

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fp feedback received on [MS] How does a MU-MIMO device with more antennas behave on a network with less?

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Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

14:38

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user435118

sdc location

SmokeDetector

@Daniil teward/Osiris 92759eb (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4601 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1599050809)

user435118

@Mithical Why did you create an instance?

Mithical

making sure it connects to MS

user435118

Oh ok.

Mithical

14:42

And yes, it does... making each of my Smokey instances having last pinged MS in a different year :D

Spevacus

Ayyyyy

SmokeDetector

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Creating a shadowed/3D iFrame by JP112 on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received on [MS] looking for ceo email list?

Spevacus

!!/watch- cleveldatabase\.marketing

SmokeDetector

PR#4604 ("Spevacus: Watch cleveldatabase\.marketing") opened by SmokeDetector

Mithical

!!/approve 4604

SmokeDetector

14:50

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Machavity

!!/scan stackoverflow.com/q/63708021

SmokeDetector

@Machavity Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]

Spevacus

Phrased like a question, but has a really suspicious link...

user12986714

!!/watch Laravel-Markdown

SmokeDetector

@user12986714 You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4605 for you.

PR#4605 ("user12986714: Watch GrahamCampbell") opened by SmokeDetector

@user12986714 You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4606 for you.

PR#4606 ("user12986714: Watch Laravel-Markdown") opened by SmokeDetector

Machavity

14:55

@Spevacus Made it go away

user12986714

@SmokeDetector From chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/55426846#55426846, text is at chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/55427034#55427034

user435118

@Mithical As I recall you never really ran an instance properly? i.e. for a significant amount of time?

user435118

@Machavity ~~How did you do that?~~ :)

Mithical

right; I basically ran emergency instances a few times

SmokeDetector

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Jeff Schaller

15:05

!!/report unix.stackexchange.com/questions/607528/…

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@JeffSchaller Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]

tp feedback received on [MS] What Is Hybrid Model In Software Testing

Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector k

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Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector v

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Spevacus

15:17

@Daniil Magic ;D

SmokeDetector

15:28

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): What to do with failed/unwanted 3D prints? ✏️ by Nishan on 3dprinting.SE

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Spevacus

!!/bisect East India Company]", "Calcutta

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus 'Company]", "Calcutta' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

@Spevacus 'East India Company]", "Calcutta' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

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Spevacus

@SmokeDetector ignore-

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Simpler way to calculate Area between lines and check if function is decreasing? by NashEqui on mathematica.SE

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thesecretmaster

15:47

@SmokeDetector Link only answer, but no evidence of affiliation and has past positive participation

Mithical

(Best not to get into that here right now, given previous messages IMO)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in body (96): The Hoodia 100% Gordonii Weight Decrease Phenomenon by trensajhon on meta.SE

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Mithical

@SmokeDetector heh... the Google Site there is already down

SmokeDetector

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SmokeDetector

16:18

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tpu- feedback received

iBug/Coral: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

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user435118

@Mithical I was having a conversation, there is no need to make assumptions.

SmokeDetector

16:35

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): High Frequency Display Data on Web by Ezekiel on stackoverflow.com

Mithical

@Daniil It didn't look like a conversation that was going anywhere productive, so I ended the conversation. The message was deleted; there's no need to discuss it further.

user435118

@Mithical A person asked me a question and I answered it. Still, there was no need to move it.

Mithical

Whatever. This isn't a conversation I'd like to have at the moment, and serves as an example of exactly why I removed the other conversation.

SmokeDetector

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Mithical

And @Daniil - as you're a moderator, I'm holding you to a higher standard, as moderators are supposed to set an example for acceptable behavior. Might be worth keeping in mind.

(Speaking for myself, personally.)

user435118

16:44

@Mithical Yes, I wouldn't interrupt an ongoing conversation. Also I don't see what I did was "unacceptable". I asked someone to be polite which is a job of a moderator and then said why I said that. You then moved the conversation which is preventing me doing my job.

thesecretmaster

@Daniil May I ask that, as per your message here, you please conversation stop this conversation? I really don't think this is a useful or CHQ-relevant conversation to be having at the moment.

I don't think anyone has called your actions unacceptable, that conversation just seemed like it wasn't going anywhere useful and for the record I think Mith was right to move it.

user435118

@thesecretmaster Ok.

thesecretmaster

Thank you :)

I really appreciate that

user435118

:)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body (70): Patterns in C language by Nish998 on stackoverflow.com

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[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 56dc3b8: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

[ metasmoke-deploy ] deploy started by thesecretmaster

thesecretmaster

17:08

@SmokeDetector Can we just rewire that chat message to ping all the folks with deploy access?

SmokeDetector

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Jeff Schaller

given that metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/262338 wasn't caught, would we do something like !!/watch-number 085315777933 and !!/watch-number 089647047627 ?

SmokeDetector

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user12986714

17:30

@thesecretmaster If one keep pushing the button, maybe it will work eventually...

keep -> keeps

Makyen

@thesecretmaster Well... we could, but then it would need to be deployed...

@JeffSchaller That seems to be a good idea.

Jeff Schaller

!!/watch-number 085315777933

!!/watch-number 089647047627

SmokeDetector

@JeffSchaller You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4607 for you.

PR#4607 ("Jeff Schaller: Watch 085315777933") opened by SmokeDetector

@JeffSchaller You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4608 for you.

Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

PR#4608 ("Jeff Schaller: Watch 089647047627") opened by SmokeDetector

Rubiksmoose

17:32

So, another noob question: what actually happens if my autoflagging criteria hits below 99.75%. My flagging gets disabled I assume, but I still can I reenable it with different settings? Or is there more punitive effects as well?

And, just so I understand people's concerns, how would one autoflagger who had one of their conditions drop below that threshold hurt the overall charcoal effort? Note that I am asking earnestly, not in an attempt to disbelieve it or anything.

Mithical

You can reenable it after adjusting it to be above 99.75%

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose You are correct. There is a task which checks them periodically, as doing so is expensive (CPU), and admins can do so individually per user. There's no automatic punitive action.

Spevacus

@Rubiksmoose I think MS will get Smokey to tell you that your autoflagging was disabled and ask you to adjust it.

Mithical

@Spevacus through a ping here I think

Spevacus

Mhmm. I've seen it happen once or twice so far.

Jeff Schaller

17:34

Aug 8 at 14:41, by SmokeDetector

@Rob Your flag conditions were manually disabled by @SmokeDetector: Total accuracy must be >= 99.75%.

Mithical

I remember when we changed it from 99.50% accuracy to 99.75% accuracy... Smokey started mass-pinging people :D

Spevacus

Shadow Wizard would be proud.

Rubiksmoose

@Makyen Now at what point should I worry my conditions are hurting the overall effort here (certainly not something I want to do!)? In other words, if I choose to keep a riskier profile but do keep trying to fine tune it, when needed, am I just risking my own flag history or something more?

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose It's a perception issue. Anytime we talk about autoflagging in general, there are people that push back and argue that autoflagging shouldn't be done and/or that it is too inaccurate to trust to an automatic system. Having the overall autoflagging accuracy drop for the project hurts the perception of the project and how well we can argue against those points of view.

Rubiksmoose

Gotcha. That makes complete sense.

Mithical

17:39

(Found it. March 18, 2018, Smokey mass-pings poeople)

Rubiksmoose

@Mithical hahaha did someone suspend smokey for being a nuisance?

Spevacus

Lol @ this one

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose With the restrictions in place, it's not possible to set one's autoflagging accuracy all that low (all flagging conditions need to individually be >=99.75% accurate in order to be saved). The only areas where it really can be all that low is where the user intentionally combines overall low accuracy sites (e.g. Stack Overflow) with high accuracy sites (almost anywhere else) in order to be allowed to have a significantly lower accuracy on the low accuracy site.

Rubiksmoose

@Spevacus I love the idea that Smokey belligerently keeps interrupting people during that whole thing.

@Makyen I think if I remove SO from my 1 min weight and 4 min reason count profile it should help then yes?

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose Yes. Personally, I choose to (mostly) have separate flagging conditions for SO, because it's profile for TP/FP is just fundamentally different from other sites. As to the 4 reason one, my personal preference is to have the reason weight set to at least 5, just to prevent having 4 "potentially" reasons trigger autoflagging, but that's a personal preference, as the numbers support 1/1/4 (i.e. the last I checked there were only 4 FP which were actually weight 4 and 4 reasons).

Rubiksmoose

17:47

I have my max poster reputation set up really high too but I found that didn't really affect things at all.

I'd never thought about SO having different flagging profiles before...

Spevacus

Most reports seem to be from people at or below the association bonus amount (101) I've found.

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose For most things, it doesn't, because most detection reasons are also limited to detect at some maximum reputation, so it's much more difficult for high rep users (or even moderately low rep users) to have posts detected.

Rubiksmoose

@Spevacus That certainly matches my experience so far as well.

I guess offensive is the only one I can think of that routinely catches higher rep users. And I'm not even sure if Smokey does or not.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Find if expression that gives area of a triangle in V.W space is increasing/decreasing in A? by NashEqui on mathematica.SE

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Spevacus

Smokey catches a few offensive keywords. There is a "toxic answer/question detected" reason after all, but most higher rep users would rather be toxic through the whole "You didn't research this at all, you should have just googled this, how can you be so dense..." language to avoid being overtly insulting.

Rubiksmoose

17:52

@Spevacus with regards to the toxic reason, I just meant I wasn't sure if there was a rep cap on Smokey's detection for that reason.

But yeah. People find lots of ways to be mean.

Spevacus

Oh, pff, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No clue

I've only got one flagging condition set. Min. weight of 200, max rep of 101, min. of 3 reasons - across all sites.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): What would it take to program this ECU? ✏️ by bebeli555 on mechanics.SE

Spevacus

I had only had around 6 or 7 autoflags used before today. With Core now, though, I guess that's gonna increase a fair bit.

SmokeDetector

fp- feedback received

Makyen

@Spevacus Yes, it will increase. Note: The record of your flags (and everyone's flags) is missing several months of the first part of this year due to a bug wiping out the flag records and an unfortunate lack of backups (fixed). So, any numbers you see on MS for flags raised are actually low across the board.

user435118

17:57

@Makyen I wonder who did that... ;)

Spevacus

Makyen pressed the big red "don't push me!" button ;D

Rubiksmoose

@Spevacus why is that?

user12986714

@Daniil The bugged code is introduced by Art (per git blame) in an un-relevant commit; then I registered a test account which Makyen nuked and caused the issue

Autocorrection is terrible

Spevacus

@Rubiksmoose Users with the Core role have their flags prioritized when Smokey pulls from the list of eligible flaggers to autoflag a post. In a post that gets 3 autoflags, 2 of them are pulled from Core users, and the 3rd is pulled from a random user. That's why most users see very few flags cast automatically on their behalf by Smokey when first getting involved with Charcoal, even when their conditions are set to be super loose.

Rubiksmoose

@Spevacus ah neat!

Makyen

18:04

As to SO being different with respect to TP/FP: SO has 82,059 total detections/ 35,771 TP / 36,445 FP / 7,697 NAA for 43.6 %TP. The next two highest detection sites are: Ask Ubuntu with 24,803 total detections/ 22,255 TP / 2,084 FP / 467 NAA for 89.7 %TP; and Super User with 19,940 total detections/ 15,970 TP / 3,103 FP / 685 NAA for 80.1 %TP.

user435118

@Spevacus It should still be around 6 or 7.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How can I get Instagram user/account id from a username/profile? by Funtao Bang on stackoverflow.com

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Makyen

@Spevacus That is somewhat inaccurate.

Waffles™

Jun 14 at 21:51, by Makyen

If there are any flag conditions that match the post: The maximum number of flags that the post will get is determined and depends on % probability of being TP and the criteria for each number of flags, which is a setting that is currently that to get 4 flags historical accuracy must be >99.9% TP. Then, the flags are allocated as follows:

Jun 14 at 21:52, by Makyen

SmokeDetector gets the first flag, unless it can't flag (e.g. runs out/too recently flagged/flag banned/random failure/etc.). Of the remaining maximum number of flags for the post, Core users, whose flag conditions match the post, get up to ceiling((max_flags -1)/2) flags. Non-Core users get the rest.

Jun 14 at 21:52, by Makyen

Example: max_flags = 4. SD gets 1, so Core users get up to ceiling((4 -1)/2) = 2; non-Core users get at least 1, possibly up to 4, if SD and all Core users are unable to flag.

Jun 14 at 21:52, by Makyen

Example: max_flags = 3. SD gets 1, so Core users get up to ceiling((3 -1)/2) = 1; non-Core users get at least 1, possibly up to 3, if SD and all Core users are unable to flag.

user435118

@Rubiksmoose How dare you interrupt Makyen's speech :)

Rubiksmoose

XD

Spevacus

18:08

Ah, yeah, Smokey always casts the first flag. He likes to take risks like that ;D

user435118

@Rubiksmoose It's SO tough :)

Rubiksmoose

hahaha
goodness setting conditions for SO is tough.

hmmmm am I being dumb?

Makyen

Frustrating: The transcript page reloads when you save an edit. I had all those queued up to hit save one after the other for the edit, but the page reloaded after the first edit and lost all the others.

Rubiksmoose

I mean moose aren't the best at maths, but I'm pretty sure 99.82 > 99.75

6

Makyen

@Rubiksmoose No, there's a bug there that we haven't identified/fixed.

Rubiksmoose

18:12

Gotcha.

Spevacus

Keep smacking Save 'til it goes.

user435118

@Rubiksmoose You can't set a SO only condition, add MSE.

Makyen

As a work-around: The preview numbers are accurate. Use those to identify what you want that's >99.75, then add an additional site.

user435118

@Spevacus That won't work. ^^

Spevacus

Aww...

Makyen

18:14

@Daniil Well, you can, but the numbers have to be quite high. It appears to be that there are specific posts that are causing problems.

Rubiksmoose

@Daniil ahhh that did the trick.

user435118

@Makyen Not really, you can use MSE to bring the numbers down.

user435118

@Spevacus Nice try, you can have a 🧇 :)

Rubiksmoose

sucessfully saved.

Makyen

@Daniil I'm not sure which you're saying "not really" to, so I'm unsure how to respond, but, yes, it does appear to be associated with specific posts, as you can use flagging conditions on SO that are different by a weight of 1 and have one save while the other won't.

user435118

18:17

@Makyen I was saying that to "but the numbers have to be quite high".

Rubiksmoose

@Makyen Yup, what you said made sense. Identified the condition then added MSE so I didn't have to set the SO numbers sky high

@Daniil With SO alone I think they meant.

user435118

@Rubiksmoose Then their wording was confusing considering they responded to "You can't set a SO only condition, add MSE.".

Rubiksmoose

Well that concludes this episode of "noob hour with rubiksmoose" you can now resume your regularly scheduled programming

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user435118

@Rubiksmoose :( When's the next episode?

Rubiksmoose

@Daniil Yeah you were both responding to different parts of each others' statements XD

Makyen

18:21

@Daniil Which is arguing something I didn't say. You said "You can't set a SO only condition". I said "Well, you can, but the numbers have to be quite high." However, I can see how there might have been some confusion, because I didn't make it clear by saying "Well, you can set an SO only condition, but the numbers have to be quite high." However, I thought the intent was clear, because I had also just said that an additional site can be added, which indicated I agreed with that part.

SmokeDetector

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Rubiksmoose

@Daniil Knowing me, quite soon I'm sure.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (95): My Phd advisor does not appreciate anything I do, and provides no help ✏️ by user128983 on academia.SE

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user435118

@Makyen Sorry for the miscommunication.

Makyen

@Daniil np. It usually takes more than one person to have a miscommunication and responsibility is almost always shared. I'm sorry for my part of it too.

SmokeDetector

18:46

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Why tape black garbage to windows on outside of window, not inside? by Elaine Nai on diy.SE

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CI on 25b1258 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (32): How can I get Instagram user/account id from a username/profile? by Pandamora on stackoverflow.com

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How can I add a program to the context menu of all files? by Scott Slocum on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in answer (36): How to color only numbers and special characters in a Microsoft Excel cell by John Gilbert Scott on superuser.com

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tp feedback received on [MS] How to find best massage chairs

Makyen

19:18

!!/approve 4608

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RAN: /usr/bin/git push origin master

STDOUT:

STDERR:
To github.com:Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector.git
! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward)
error: failed to push some refs to '[email protected]:Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector.git'
hint: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind
hint: its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g.
hint: 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details.

Makyen

!!/pull-sync-hard-reboot

SmokeDetector

@Makyen Synced hard to origin/master and origin/deploy. Automatically rebooting in a few seconds.

teward/Osiris: Goodbye, cruel world

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Modulating a (diaphragm/direct lift) solenoid valve for proportional output by tony on electronics.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer (161): What is the word for someone who is "transcended"? by caroline allard on english.SE

Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially problematic ns configuration in body (101): Are you seeking help in MATLAB assignment or help in MATLAB homework? by Eassignment help on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected (78): Is that true that if you keep bulky files on the Desktop then Windows slow down? by yaya on superuser.com

user12986714

19:40

!!/report apple.stackexchange.com/questions/400532/… "Makes no sense"

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Is there a way to prevent predictive text from learning what the user typed by petercoffin80 on apple.SE

tpu- feedback received on [MS] Are you seeking help in MATLAB assignment or help in MATLAB homework?

Spevacus

!!/bisect eassignmenthelp.com

SmokeDetector

Matched by the following regexes:
\w{0,30}assign(?:ments?)?\W*+helps?\.[\w\.]*+ on line 21278 of watched_keywords.txt
assignmenthelp\w*\.co on line 811 of blacklisted_websites.txt

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to subscribe platform events on external systems? ✏️ by Chandu on salesforce.SE

tpu- feedback received on [MS] Is there a way to prevent predictive text from learning what the user typed

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body (1): Accessing the RGB pixel values of rendered objects by Amir Aly on blender.SE

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on f8d77a4: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

SmokeDetector

19:59

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Post is mostly images (14): In pool, what happens if the last coloured ball and the white are sunk in the same shot? by Byamukama Enos on sports.SE

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Rob

@SmokeDetector Geez, and I left thinking I'd explained everything to your satisfaction - 'the party don't stop'

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Windows 7 low performance issue by Computers And Stuff on superuser.com

tpu- feedback received on [MS] In pool, what happens if the last coloured ball and the white are sunk in the same shot?

Rob

@Rubiksmoose ^^ that was to you, but somehow it hooked to Smokey; and I couldn't edit in time - in case anyone's wondering.

Rubiksmoose

@Rob There's no party like a rubiksmoose party I guess. I mean if you like explaining basic technical things to people over the internet for longer than they should take XD

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): My name is Mari, I am a manager at the IFU Sprachschulung GmbH in Vienna by Mari Ifu on german.SE

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

20:14

!!/watch-number +4314103138

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4609 for you.

PR#4609 ("Spevacus: Watch +4314103138") opened by SmokeDetector

Spevacus

!!/bisect ifu-institut.at

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus 'ifu-institut.at' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Spevacus

!!/watch ifu-institut\.at

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4610 for you.

PR#4610 ("Spevacus: Watch ifu-institut\.at") opened by SmokeDetector

Spevacus

20:17

Oh, there's another number in there, too...

!!/watch-number +43 676 45 55 505

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4611 for you.

PR#4611 ("Spevacus: Watch +43 676 45 55 505") opened by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (61): Leaflet map not properly displayed in ionic react app (Solved) by Bruno Fernando on stackoverflow.com

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Rob

@Rubiksmoose I returned to see if there was a follow-up question and was surprised to see that the conversation had continued for so long; I thought when I left that I had in fact answered all your questions. --- It is annoying to use the chat interface on mobile with Firefox (and it's recent bugs / features unwanted); all while trying to view the screen with a magnifying glass.

Makyen

I really don't know SQL. However, I'm looking at this MS SQL Data Exploder query: Top Feedback per User with Roles. The issue I have is that it's incomplete. I'm not sure how incomplete it is, but when I looked for Rubiksmoose on there, who has 504 feedbacks, they are not listed. I expected to see everyone with > 60 feedbacks.

I'd like to know: Why isn't it a complete list (i.e. why isn't Rubiksmoose on the list)? Ultimately, I'd like a query that is complete.

Rob

Itt's on me if that takes 2-3x the time, it's only when it balloons to much more time than I had available that I must leave to maintain my schedule.

Rubiksmoose

@Rob oof I'll bet! You answered many of my questions very well FWIW. I just wanted to be super clear.

2

That is completely fair, I lay no claim on anybody else's time beyond that which they want to offer. :-)

Rob

20:26

@Rubiksmoose Clear as acrylic - the clearest substance.

SmokeDetector

20:53

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body (96): HLS Stream has no sound on the website by Giorgi Khachidze on wordpress.SE

user12986714

@Makyen Well, I am not sure why the orig query won't work, but metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/data/sql/queries/… seems to give complete result

Except role_name looks bugged

Makyen

@user12986714 Thanks. It looks like it was excluding everyone with 0 invalidated feedbacks.

user12986714

@Makyen I am pretty sure you are viewing the result while I am having a failed attempt to fix the bug; it should now work

(with role_name bugged)

Makyen

@user12986714 I meant the old one was excluding those entries with 0 invalidated feedbacks, not the new one.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (95): Build array of urls from nested object by Viacheslav Shelestovskiy on stackoverflow.com

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Spevacus

21:04

!!/bisect ultra-boost

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus Matched by ultra\Wboost on line 864 of bad_keywords.txt

Robert Columbia

@SmokeDetector f

user12986714

!!/report stackoverflow.com/questions/48455236/…

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Using regsvr32 to register 32bit dll on 64bit Win 10 by info info on stackoverflow.com

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21:34

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in username (62): How to redirect login and register pages by Iswanto SEO on wordpress.SE

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

!!/watch- iswanto\.com

SmokeDetector

PR#4612 ("Spevacus: Watch iswanto\.com") opened by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): How to autoupdate chromeDriver & geckDriver in selenium by Glen Giancola on stackoverflow.com

Spevacus

21:55

@SmokeDetector k "Undisclosed affiliation. User's profile picture features the website name in the answer."

SmokeDetector

22:24

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Can i dump json files on github? by Cip on stackoverflow.com

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iBug/Coral: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

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SmokeDetector

22:43

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in answer (1): How can I make it so that this function ensures coordinates returned are a minimum distance away from other coordinates? by jabusir on stackoverflow.com

user435118

22:53

sdc approve 4612

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user435118

sdc approve 4611

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 8c54f0b (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4611 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1599077840) (running on teward/Osiris)

user435118

sdc approve 4610

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user435118

22:57

sdc approve 4609

Spevacus

Thanks for approving those :D

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user435118

@Spevacus No problem. Thank you for the watches :)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in body (27): How to display array of items in row format when exporting to excel using angular? by AngularCoding on stackoverflow.com

user435118

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

23:04

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer, pattern-matching website in answer (110): How can I convert the caption file format (.xml to .vtt)? by a deleted user on video.SE

Spevacus

@SmokeDetector ignore-

Goes back a year with a few FP feedbacks, deleted user... Honestly looks sorta NAA (asking for additional details in an answer) but I'm not certain.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching email in answer (99): Empty response from Bitstamp.net by vidic nas on stackoverflow.com

Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 0466c1d (tripleee: Merge pull request #4395 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1597851396) (running on Makyen/EC2-linux)

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

!!/watch-number +1 (424) 209-7204

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4613 for you.

PR#4613 ("Spevacus: Watch +1 (424) 209-7204") opened by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Toxic answer detected (80): Why doesn't NetBeans find package com.apple.eawt when doing Clean and Build? by JayLord Abueva on stackoverflow.com

naa- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (62): How to add Jfrog Artifactory as a docker registry in Spinnaker? by Niraj on stackoverflow.com

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer (176): How to transfer funds from Bitstamp to a personal wallet? by Elizabeth seanpaul on bitcoin.SE

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in answer (92): Convert screen coordinate to world coordinate WITHOUT GLUUNPROJECT by Matheus Fernandes on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in answer (36): How to create a database with username and password using Mongoose? by Abror_StubBorn on stackoverflow.com

Makyen

23:47

!!/approve 4613

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 8ea6ca0 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4613 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1599088325) (running on teward/Osiris)

Makyen

!!/watch- fabuloushacker01(?:@gmail\.com)?

!!/watch-number- (424) 209-7204

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[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev d481ceb (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of fabuloushacker01(?:@gmail\.com)? by Makyen) (running on teward/Osiris)

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 7dfff19 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of (424) 209-7204 by Makyen) (running on teward/Osiris)

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