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user435118
08:03
@Makyen I was, not sure if it's going to happen now.
@Makyen I'm not sure whether you're the right person to ask this, but it looks as if I can now accidentally add more than 1 review to a post. Is this a bug or by-design? Example report, screenshot. That's 5 reports, 4 of them mine.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): 3 popup div click outside to close ✏️ by mike smith on stackoverflow.com
fp- feedback received
@Makyen Thanks. :)
user435118
@Mast It is a bug, it's supposed to remove duplicate feedbacks by the same person.
naa- feedback received on [MS] HUION H610 Tablet
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, link at end of answer, linked punctuation in answer (201): Please revert the line-height change! by Hafeez ur Rehman on meta.SE
08:11
@Mast Yeah, there's a known issue where that's possible, if you click quickly. I've looked at it a bit. There's some things that are integrated which we can do, but my testing indicated they really weren't sufficient, so I need to complete some code to do a better job at preventing multiple clicks, but it needs to be integrated with the code that's already a basic part of the site. That code mostly works like it's documented, but not quite. :;
@Makyen Ok.
user435118
sdc watch apkoptions\.com
@Daniil There was a problem with this command. Was the chat message edited or deleted?
I've cleared them by hand now, but if I understand correctly it's a known problem and a fix is in the works.
user435118
@SmokeDetector It wasn't.
08:12
@Daniil There was a problem with this command. Was the chat message edited or deleted?
user435118
@Makyen Please revert the sdc commit by tripleee.
user435118
That's probably the issue.
user435118
sdc alive
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 4b2c32f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of apkoptions\.com by Daniil) (running on teward/Osiris)
@Daniil Yup
user435118
sdc test test
08:16
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
@Daniil reverted, will pull when it finishes testing
CI on 46ba0da succeeded.
user435118
@tripleee Great, I wonder what the issues were. Maybe you were splitting in the wrong place?
!!/pull
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 46ba0da (tripleee: Revert "chatcommunicate.py: simplify sdc handling") (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)
Restart: API quota is 16122.
tpu- feedback received
08:23
@Daniil try now?
!!/blacklist-keyword- delhi[\W_]*+escorts
PR#4600 ("Mast: Blacklist delhi[\W_]*+escorts") opened by SmokeDetector
^ Once that goes through, feel free to remove it from the watchlist it's currently on.
@tripleee Actually, what you're doing with the content was fine, we just need to do the same thing to the content source. We already have a function, minimally_validate_content_source() which we run every time prior to using the content_source, so we can just adapt that to make the same change.
!!/approve 4600
@Mast I don't see it, where should it be removed from?
08:25
@Daniil That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
user435118
And now it works ^
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body (1): Why my website isn’t getting Google Ranks? by Ahmad Idrees on stackoverflow.com
!!/test-t delhi escorts
> Bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in title
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Bad keyword in title - Position 0-13: delhi escorts
Potentially bad keyword in title - Position 0-13: delhi escorts
Ohhhh.
It was previously caught by \L<city>\Wescorts? on line 3610 of watched_keywords.txt
user435118
08:27
sdc bisect delhi escorts
Matched by the following regexes:
delhi[\W_]*+escorts on line 2343 of bad_keywords.txt
\L<city>\Wescorts? on line 3610 of watched_keywords.txt
Do we still use \L in regex?
there's that one instance in the watchlist but a number of places in findspam.py
@Mast Yes, there's a city list, which is mostly cities, but there are some other things in the list.
08:34
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body (295): Lift Bedroom Confidence by tina bristol on astronomy.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in url body, blacklisted website in body, +5 more (682): Lush Lift Cream : The Skin Care Products by parysh wartions on askubuntu.com
tpu- feedback received
tpu- feedback received on [MS] Lift Bedroom Confidence
CI on 74c0acb failed.
!!/blacklist-keyword androxene(?:[\W_]*+(?:enhancement|male|\d++|[\da-f]{5,}+)s?)*
@tripleee Blacklisted androxene(?:[\W_]*+(?:enhancement|male|\d++|[\da-f]{5,}+)s?)*
!!/watch lush[\W_]*+lift
@tripleee Added lush[\W_]*+lift to watchlist
user435118
sdc pull
08:44
@Daniil CI build is still pending, wait until the build has finished and then pull again.
@SmokeDetector But, I changed that. How did a old version get pushed?
CI on 828fc7e failed.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body (1): Problema con cookies en un sitio web creado con Shopify (CMS) by Enzo on es.stackoverflow.com
CI on cfb423e failed.
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body (99): Error in Execution on running linkedin login by Tineas Panickan on meta.SE
@Daniil When CI fails, please don't try to pull, unless you really are sure you know what you're doing.
user435118
@Makyen I didn't see that CI failed, if I saw I wouldn't have pulled. Sorry.
CI on 23699fd succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 23699fd (Makyen: Re-apply message->msg change. -autopull) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)
Restart: API quota is 15860.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): New post formatting by Muzammal Jutt on meta.SE
user435118
08:50
@Makyen What was the point of changing the function name?
@Daniil Because the function name should describe what the function is doing. I fundamentally changed what the function was doing, so the name should change.
user435118
@Makyen Why change how sdc works anyway? It worked perfectly before.
@Makyen There's good arguments that it really should be two functions, as many purists feel that if you are saying "and" in a function name, you should really split it, but I feel that should be situational.
tpu- feedback received
!!/watch myimmigrationhelp\.com
@Daniil at least for me one reason was that it requires special handling in a number of only vaguely connected places; it's easier to see what's going on and change it if need be if it's in one place
@Daniil I was under the impression there was something the change was leading to. I'm certainly not wedded to making the change. About the only real difference appears to be that the new way of doing it will tolerate more than one space between the sdc and the command. From my POV, that's beneficial, but I don't use the sdc version at the moment, so it's a "meh" for me.
user435118
@Makyen SE strips the spaces anyway.
@Daniil Yup
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (44): Which software is best by Faheem on stackoverflow.com
user435118
That was not meant to be an edit.
09:00
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer (86): Develop a Remote Desktop View software with tunneling VPN by Ranta Yogi on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received
@Daniil Does it really strip them from the content_source?
user435118
@Makyen Not sure, I haven't looked at or used ChatExchange.
This is a test
@Daniil Nope. Definitely not stripped from the content_source.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Send app data to Google Spreadsheet From app Using Retrofit by Chisom Nwokwu on stackoverflow.com
naa- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Transaction is stuck pending but not available to be cancelled in MyEtherWallet by Boston Blunt on ethereum.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer (1): jQuery .data() is not working as expected by Isabell García on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received on [MS] jQuery .data() is not working as expected
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body, blacklisted user (173): Where to Set Your Stop-Loss by nobile on bitcoin.SE
tpu- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad ip for hostname in title, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching product name in title, potentially bad ns for domain in title, +1 more (401): slimketoboost.com/lush-lift-cream/ by dqwdgbhmukom on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): QT QuaZip open() fail -1000 by Heidi on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received on [MS] https://slimketoboost.com/lush-lift-cream/
fp- feedback received
09:28
!!/blacklist-keyword lush[\W_]*+lift
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer (1): Can we construct a UTXO which is spendable only via proof of work? by St3p on bitcoin.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating words in body (42): Need urgent help in javascript by CoDER69 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially problematic ns configuration in body, potentially problematic ns configuration in title (4): Database: dosya.co/e8o5ci1pou2f/world.sql.html by dedejk1903 on stackoverflow.com
fp- feedback received on [MS] Need urgent help in javascript
fp- feedback received
fp feedback on autoflagged post: Database: dosya.co/e8o5ci1pou2f/world.sql.html [MS]
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Rubiksmoose
09:51
@Rubiksmoose ^ I don't think you need to fret, it was definitely VLQ
should we unwatch dosya.co to avoid having autoflags on those posts? It's predominantly FP and it's currently caught by the single NS rule anyway (which of course on its own is quite FP-prone as well)
@SmokeDetector Why did SD autoflag a post with only 1-weight experimental reasons?
Potentially bad keyword in body - Positions 31-39, 103-111: dosya.co
Potentially bad keyword in title - Position 18-26: dosya.co
Potentially problematic ns configuration in body - Suspicious nameservers: all IP addresses for dosya.co are in set {'195.201.111.49'}
Potentially problematic ns configuration in title - Suspicious nameservers: all IP addresses for dosya.co are in set {'195.201.111.49'}
@RyanM yeah, that should not be possible
looks like Rubiksmoose somehow has managed to set their autoflag threshold really low
@RyanM It has 4 reasons, which is usually a very good indicator that a post is TP.
09:57
yeah, they have configured autoflagging for a minimum weight 1 when it triggers 4 reasons or more metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging/users/overview?user=547
should we disable that rule?
@tripleee 1/1/4 is 99.93% across all sites.
not intervening then, but I think that's crazy
Arguably autoflags should require at least one non-experimental rule, especially given that we tend to watch any domain that gets spotted via other means.
It's only really a problem, like most combinations, for Stack Overflow, where it's 99.53%.
it's a problem for CHQ as an organization if we allow people to put in reckless conditions for autoflagging
10:01
So the rule basically ends up being "if there's a potentially bad NS, the domain has been seen spammed at least once before, and you put the domain in both the title and the body, flags will be cast"
@tripleee It's not reckless by the definitions we use.
!!/unwatch dosya\.co
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 6e608d1 (SmokeDetector: Auto unwatch of dosya\.co by tripleee) (running on teward/Osiris)
tpu- feedback received
@SmokeDetector that has to be a seed question
@SmokeDetector op has another post on SO (definitely VLQ but also not spam) stackoverflow.com/questions/63282771/…
@RyanM that's what I thought too but this actually looks like someone who posts in their sleep ... or something
10:04
Note: I'm not saying that I don't think we should tweak some of how we qualify autoflagging. The biggest thing for me is that I feel that for sites with > 1000 qualifying posts, each such site should individually meet the 99.75% criteria for the specified flagging conditions. Doing that would prevent comboing sites to effectively get a lower auto-flagging % on higher volume sites where there are a larger number of FP (mostly Stack Overflow).
@tripleee Ah, I think I figured it out...1, 2 - presumably to look like they're posting legit content, and then also that spam one
10:22
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in title (2): LSTM Keras - input shape and shapes of X and Y with model.fit (am I doing it right?) by Lauramvp on stats.SE
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Why Businesses Need HR Consulting Services? by Blink Husys on stackoverflow.com
@iBug Well, if you're willing to commit to a 3 year term, then AWS will get well under $8/mo for a t3.small ($6.57, or $5.72/mo if paid all upfront), or t3a.small ($5.91/mo, or $5.17 if paid all upfront). For a t3a.small it's $8/mo for a 1 year commitment and paid upfront.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How gay command and i want to troll my friends by user13897264 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (61): Is there a REPL like iPython for Nodejs? by JamesH on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, link at beginning of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +3 more (436): How TO Use This Product? by JacobEdor on superuser.com
10:42
!!/watch husys\.com
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
!!/watch husys(?!\.com)
@tripleee An invalid pattern was provided, please check your command.
tpu- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 0885ce8 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of husys(?!\.com) by tripleee) (running on teward/Osiris)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): tkinter GUI for hangman game project by yungmaz13 on stackoverflow.com
naa- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (32): spring boot connection to phpmyadmin localhost database by Programmer Warrior on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to change Payment Methods on PWA Suite? by Saditha Udayanga on magento.SE
user435118
@SmokeDetector k
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (78): Why would Google show the old title when it has indexed the page with a new title? by raj on webmasters.SE
tpu- feedback received
11:01
!!/watch sapnaescorts\.com
user435118
@SmokeDetector k
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in url body, blacklisted website in body, +4 more (583): Androxene Male Enhancement? by Androxent on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in body (58): Substracting Jason Web Token (JWT) with regular expression by Minka on stackoverflow.com
Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, body starts with title and ends in url, link at end of body, +3 more (589): MSX6 Austria Our tester is Mario, 50 years old by moehldoew on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Adhara Socket doesn't work on iOS Flutter by Shashoug on stackoverflow.com
fp- feedback received on [MS] Which software is best
tpu- feedback received on [MS] Androxene Male Enhancement?
fp- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at beginning of body, pattern-matching product name in title, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in body, +4 more (340): {Shark Tank Reviews} This Pills Comes On "Top 10" List In The World! - How To Buy? by EllisAndrews on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (62): Custom Yoast Breadcrumbs URL to make the breadcrumbs more detailed by Jim Hathaway on wordpress.SE
user435118
11:28
@SmokeDetector k
user435118
!!/watch (?-i:Logo\WIn\W*15\WMinutes)(?!\.com)
@Daniil There was a problem with this command. Was the chat message edited or deleted?
user435118
@tripleee @Makyen ^
Could you try it with the !!/ notation until it's fixed?
user435118
I could, I was just notifying the appropriate people of the problem.
11:30
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at beginning of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching product name in title, +1 more (436): What is Knightwood Male Enhancement Pills? by knightenvhmnt on meta.SE
tpu- feedback received
@Makyen The metasmoke search doesn't support it.
At least not like it would a regular regex.
11:53
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): RIL_REQUEST_SETUP_DATA_CALL Params by Isabell García on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Flutter - Insecure socket connections are disallowed by platform: 10.0.2.2 by lyrics on stackoverflow.com
@Makyen No no no. EC2 is terrible. You get 1 GB of free outbound traffic and then they charge at least $0.09 for every GB thereafter. On the contrary, Lightsail, along with most other VPS providers, offers at least 1 TB of bundled traffic for equivalents to T2/T3 micro instances, which evaluates to $90 on AWS EC2.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad keyword in body (289): sites.google.com/site/exceptionalketoofficials/ by ClareBartl on apple.SE
tpu- feedback received
Also, you forgot to include the cost for EBS, at least 8 GB of which is required for a Linux instance. Rated at $0.10 per GB-mo, that's an additional $0.80 expense. Not to mention that it's a tight space still.
@Makyen Thanks a bunch! :D
12:09
!!/watch- (?-i:exceptionalketoofficials)(?#sites.google.com)
@Makyen thank you! Happy to help keep the place clean! Reading up to see what this new privilege means (I don't want to break anything) :)
!!/pull
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 6e28665 (Makyen: Revert "simplify sdc handling") (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)
@Daniil Reverted
12:23
Restart: API quota is 13861.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): LENOVO Z2 PLUS VOLTE ISSUE with jio by shajeer on android.SE (@AndrewT.)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Word problem , percentage by user367639 on english.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link following arrow in body, shortened url in body (142): Get 0.003 bitcoin only for inviting 1 person by Mojtaba Shayani on bitcoin.SE
tpu- feedback received
12:40
@SmokeDetector tpu- because of mod power
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): UIScreenEdgePanGestureRecognizer to compensate for mobile covers by Himanshu Nainawa on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): High CPU Usage when nobody is logged in via console by biggboss14 on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector copied a comment and replaced with spam link
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Multiprocessing manager variables returning 'not defined' by Rene vds on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, potentially bad keyword in body (70): Kratom Powder is Able to Help You with Your Health Problems by Shahbaz Wt on stackoverflow.com
tpu- feedback received
!!/watch nikehuarache\.us
@Spevacus You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4601 for you.
PR#4601 ("Spevacus: Watch nikehuarache\.us") opened by SmokeDetector
12:47
!!/watch jio4gvoiceapk\.in
@AndrewT. You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4602 for you.
PR#4602 ("Andrew T.: Watch jio4gvoiceapk\.in") opened by SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): How do sites moderate self-answered questions? by MichelJigg on meta.SE
tpu- feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): If someone goes for a haircut, does it increase GDP? by Cherry on economics.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer (80): Filesystem damaged and can't be fixed by Vlad Gheorghe on askubuntu.com
fp- feedback received
naa feedback received
> Thank you for your answers.
No answers.
Heh, yeah...
!!/watch- biggboss14new\.com
12:54
PR#4603 ("Mast: Watch biggboss14new\.com") opened by SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in answer (1): How to copy paste between Android and Windows? by khemiri wassim on android.SE (@AndrewT.)
tpu- feedback received
@SmokeDetector Author of answer is author of blogpost. Blogpost is from today.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Mongoose: How to group by values and store in separate arrays by Ameet Pradhan on stackoverflow.com
fp feedback received
fp feedback received
!!/bisect Anupama
> Potentially bad keyword in username
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Potentially bad keyword in username - Position 0-7: Anupama
@Mast Matched by (?-i:^Anupama$) on line 22393 of watched_keywords.txt
@Mast Looks like they were watched for this post
13:08
@Spevacus Yes, turns out it's a quite common name.
Interesting.
Apparently it's Sanskrit for 'unparalleled', there are tens of thousands of people with that name.
So we'll probably get more FP on that eventually.
'incomparable'
user435118
sdc unwatch (?-i:^Anupama$)
user435118
@AndrewT. Why? Looks fp to me. The answer is related, the link is related and the link has no spam history.
13:15
PII hints to pinterest.ch/mailtoshajeer which links to that site. Spam enough for me.
@SmokeDetector f
@SmokeDetector f
@SmokeDetector f
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Flutter - Insecure socket connections are disallowed by platform: 10.0.2.2 by lyrics on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Type or namespace definition, or end-of-file expected xzczxcxzc by JimisV on stackoverflow.com
@RobertColumbia That report was a question; questions cannot be marked as NAAs.
fp- feedback received
Rob
Rob
@tripleee @Rubiksmoose - @Makyen, Rubiksmoose is going to get dinged for NAA below 99.75% - using that 'settings checker' link you gave me. Thanks again for that, I noticed that I was a hair under and was going to get a 'disabled message' but I fixed that.
user435118
@AndrewT. It contains a genuine answer, I don't think that's spammy enough.
user435118
@SmokeDetector f
user435118
13:20
Also please modify your comment on MS to contain the information as it could be helpful in the future.
Worst case, it's a link-only answer to Quora. The answers on Quora didn't mention anything about reverting to the old version. My personal take as a mod is that is spam.
@Daniil At best it's a very suspicious answer.
@Rob Looks like I can't access that link. :(
Rob
Rob
BTW: I agree with Makyen's findings, if people want to live on the edge (set it close to 99.75) it's on them to expect an occasional ping and come here to answer for it. I get approximately one every three months, which isn't inconvenient, and I probably help by catching things that some others might not be able to reach (with much safer settings).
FP is very gracious here, looks like it's either NAA or TP.
13:22
@SmokeDetector f
@Daniil fair point
At least several of the fps I've gotten on autoflags have turned out to not be fps in truth, but I'm happy to change settings if it is problematic.
user435118
@Rubiksmoose That's because you don't have the "Core" role which is required to access Blazer which runs the SQL query. For your convenience, I'll upload a pic.
Honestly, it was part of an experiment from me since none of my flags were being used.
user435118
13:25
99.7250%
Rob
Rob
@Rubiksmoose I thought you could, in any event you'll want to increase your settings a hair - I can show you a screenshot if you wish.
NM, Danill did the deed.
@Rob No worries! That is very helpful information. Thanks for pointing it out.
And yeah I'll adjust it up a hair I guess.
@SmokeDetector f
@Daniil Thanks :)
user435118
@Rob What do you mean by "help by catching things that some others might not be able to reach"? If you have "safer settings" i.e. higher minimum weight then more people will be able to flag the higher the weight goes so I'm not really sense of the point you're making here.
Rob
Rob
13:28
A script will run and you'll be nailed for having your settings to low; and your flagging will be disabled. There a small chance that before the script runs that you'd squeeze past the line and not be disabled.
@Daniil That's for Mak
user435118
@Rob Not likely, the scripts runs quite frequently. I would say if MS is up you would have your conditions disabled in 10 minutes maximum after setting them.
user435118
@Rob Oh ok. It's just you neither didn't ping Makyen or reply to a message from him so it seemed like a generic comment for everyone.
Rob
Rob
Well I guess about 15 minutes ago things changed less than 10 minutes before that, and I was certainly lucky to have checked.
Rob
Rob
The hook is on my prior comment, I don't ping more than once unless there's been a long interval.
user435118
13:31
@Rob The script didn't change recently, what are you saying?
Rob
Rob
You're welcome to read it, as is anyone else.
Back to what I was doing.
user435118
@Rob The types of words you use indicated that it wasn't for Makyen specifically so I was a little confused. For example, you said "I agree with Makyen's findings". If it was for Makyen specifically I would've said "I agree with your findings."
user435118
@Mast After rereading the answer I have decided to change my feedback to NAA.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): What Is Hybrid Model In Software Testing by FinTest on unix.SE (@Pandya)
@Daniil His original message @mention'd tripleee as well as Makyen, which I guess indicates multiple people were a part of the convo.
user435118
13:35
@Spevacus I know that but he also said "That's for Mak".
user435118
sdc approve 4602
user435118
@Daniil Approving with hesitation.
It's a watch, they were intended to be experimental.
user435118
13:37
sdc approve 4603
user435118
sdc approve 4601
@Mast I'm confused by your "tpu" review on How to get the serial number of the pen drive in bash; it seems to me a simple "commentary instead of Answer" sort of post -- I'm not seeing the spam in it...?
tp feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in answer (36): Selenium C# label text click by OrdinaryKing on stackoverflow.com
fp feedback received
13:47
@JeffSchaller I talked about this a week ago.
Aug 26 at 18:15, by Mast
> A post should be marked as spam only if it advertises a product, service, or similar and is unsolicited or lacks disclosure.
Aug 26 at 18:16, by Mast
(product | service | similar) & (unsolicited | no-disclosure)
Aug 26 at 18:16, by Mast
E-mail is always unsolicited, spam.
Where e-mail here should be interpreted as the e-mail address.
@Mast hmmm, alright -- so to you, the existence of an email address in a post automatically means it's spam?
(presuming no one would/should solicit an email address, making them unsolicited)
@JeffSchaller If the request is to further communicate using that channel, yes.
user435118
@Mast I don't agree.
alright; I'm biased coming from the SE/moderation point of view where it's simply NAA/commentary. I'm always trying to get a better sense for the scope of the MS project
@Daniil I'm quoting policy.
user435118
13:50
@Mast Policy which you posted?
@Daniil No, I don't write policy.
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A: What are the “spam” and “rude or abusive” (offensive) flags, and how do they work?

KipNote for moderators: some sites, including Stack Overflow, have more permissive, overriding guidance on the handling of these flags. What makes something spam and when should I flag it? A post should be marked as spam only if it advertises a product, service, or similar and is unsolicited or lack...

Not network-wide policy anyway.
user435118
@Mast "A post should be marked as spam only if it advertises a product, service, or similar and is unsolicited or lacks disclosure." Last time I checked, an email is not a product or service.
It's an advertisement to use a method of communication while having nothing to do with answering the question asked.
I would personally draw the line short of "email is spam", as distinguished from a commercial website = spam
clicking on an email link would just open your email tool, versus a potentially harmful or deceitful website
user435118
@SmokeDetector NAA per the NAA feedback guidance. "the post is not spam, abusive, offensive etc." and "you would flag the post as Not An Answer on the site itself".
13:55
Does Charcoal have policy on it?
@Daniil Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.
@Mast that's where I would love to see clarification, yes
If Mak, Art or Undo ever has said anything about it, that would be nice.
@tripleee FWIW I'm happy to adjust my settings. All you would need to do is talk to me about it if there's any issue I should be aware of. I'm always happy to listen to those more experienced than me and improve if I can. cc @RyanM
user435118
@Mast Looks like it does.
user435118
13:57
@Mast They did, they provided the NAA feedback guidance which I already linked to.
@Daniil Yes, and that didn't get us anywhere.
Just like you're reading the MSE policy I linked to different than me.
user435118
@Mast The search that I linked to should.
I can imagine a spam post that says "Dr. Wizard solved all my (medical condition) problems; email them at spam@domain!"
user435118
Yes, that is spam ^ Contact me is not.
@JeffSchaller I don't have to imagine that, we get those all the time on RPG
13:59
@Rubiksmoose thanks, I'm not formally requesting any change but considering the FP, are you really sure you want to have a rule which says to autoflag at weight 1?

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