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2:00 PM

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +3 more: My personal expertise with Trembolex Ultra: by Loper 19 on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Como utilizar Python ChatterBot em página HTML? by Paulo Affonso Júnior on pt.stackoverflow.com

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2:15 PM

!!/notify 11540 es.stackoverflow.com

@iBug You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on es.stackoverflow.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

@JakeSymons meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/278380/…

@JakeSymons Please learn to search the meta sites before asking questions ...

@DavidPostill Would be interesting if you said What? I don't see Triage on Super User :)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: How to say "fuckers" in Russian by Allen R. on russian.SE

2:31 PM

@iBug Why? It is a Stack Overflow specific queue.

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@DavidPostill Well I was just joking. I surely know you know it's SO-only.

2:42 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Transaction confirmed, bitcoin not received by Melvin Hines on bitcoin.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: My Bitcoin Core wallet does not receive BTC by Melvin Hines on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by Jake Symons

tpu- by iBug on Transaction confirmed, bitcoin not received [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Sending bitcoin unconfirmed, now wallet balance is unconfirmed by Melv on bitcoin.SE

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer, blacklisted user: How to design a worm-gear in FreeCAD? by Karriem A Muhammad on 3dprinting.SE

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Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback on How to design a worm-gear in FreeCAD?.

@SmokeDetector n

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback on How to design a worm-gear in FreeCAD?.

Shoot I clicked the wrong button.

@SmokeDetector naa- DID YOU HEAR ME?

@iBug Yep. The blog links are spam :)

@JF yeeeah, that needs to be on later Ruby, cc @quartata. 2.3 has security and implementation flaws and is generally buggy. 2.4.1 minimum, or 2.5 if you feel like it (MS is on 2.5)

2:58 PM

@SmokeDetector k

Why is the same post caught twice without any edit?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: KingoRoot is stuck at 90% by Understand on android.SE (@iBug)

@iBug Probably because the question just got edited?

fp- by DavidPostill

tpu- by iBug

Conflicting feedback on KingoRoot is stuck at 90%.

@SmokeDetector r/a

Conflicting feedback on KingoRoot is stuck at 90%.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Do unconfirmed transactions expire? by Melv on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by iBug

3:04 PM

@DavidPostill It's abusive garbage. I red-flagged.

@iBug Yes. I just realised. Changed my flag.

It's a poor copy of the question with photos added ...

@ArtOfCode That's just what was in the Ubuntu repos, I was only using it for testing. Did Bundler pin it as the version or something?

@JF Not much to test since I didn't assign any routes

@quartata shrug

you're gonna want to change it though

2.3 is bad

Ah, I see it put a .ruby-version thingy

don't know why it did that

Can I change the ruby in the Gemfile to be like the gems e.g >=2.2?

rails s is saying that config in config/application.rb isn’t defined. Any ideas why?

3:12 PM

yes

because I have never tried to run this

It should be Rails.application.config

naa- by Glorfindel on KingoRoot is stuck at 90% [MS]

I think?

thesecretmaster

@quartata fkey is fetched with each request, IIRC.

I wasn't sure how long you could reuse the same one, so I did it that way.

@thesecretmaster IIRC, fkeys are valid for the lifetime of the session

thesecretmaster

Define session?

3:23 PM

user session

thesecretmaster

How often do those get invalidated?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: How to make [mobius\](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_function) array in linear time? by Aman Rawat on math.SE

@Glorfindel

20 mins ago, by DavidPostill

It's a poor copy of the question with photos added ...

@thesecretmaster Yeah I found it, get_fkey

thesecretmaster

Great

3:32 PM

CE appears to fetch it only once but then again we have no idea if that's a stable thing. Let me check some other implementations

They all seem to be getting it from /chats/join/favorites for some reason

thesecretmaster

I mean, it's on every page IIRC

I know I always got mine from /rooms

Anways SwiftChatSE also appears to fetch it only once (@NobodyNada?)

easy solution: memoize get_fkey

thesecretmaster

It's not much of a performance hit anyways, I'm more inclined to just leave it as is.

@thesecretmaster ...it's a user session

its defined start and end points are login and logout

thesecretmaster

Yeah, but does it get auto-invalidated after a certain time period? I've seen that.

3:41 PM

If it does then it's a very long time period

I've been logged in for months before without getting invalidated

It can be invalidated by mods nuking user sessions, but that's also an exceptional case

@quartata Yep, once per server

thesecretmaster

I don't see too much harm in leaving it as is, but feel free to make a PR and I'll accept it.

I don't have a GitLab account

thesecretmaster

sigh. I'll do it then.

no no I'll make one one sec

thesecretmaster

3:46 PM

OK. I should just migrate it to GH. I remembered why I was using gitlab though. It was because I needed a free private repo.

@quartata I’d guess it’s doesn’t have a reason other than “that’s how CE did it”

At that point in development, my primary documentation was this PPCG post by ProgramFOX

@thesecretmaster Got an educational email address?

thesecretmaster

Yes, but it... well.... it can't receive any email from different domains.

Buenas noches, todos.

wat

3:53 PM

CI on bc98c75 succeeded.

that's... not a very useful email address

thesecretmaster

Yep. Only send/recieves to *@myschool.edu

there's probably a way to break that

thesecretmaster

Yeah, but it's done through google apps or whatever it's called

Not really worth it for me. I got rubymine for ed by sending them my student ID

that works

Anyway, the GitHub education pack gets you free private repos

you could get in touch with them and see if you can do the same

thesecretmaster

3:55 PM

I will do now

amusingly enough they sent me a reminder to renew mine this morning

apparently I've had it 2 years already O.o

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Payment not received by Melv on bitcoin.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Change the folder name for the directory WordPress is installed in by Adolfo Usier Fotógrafo Coimbra on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector k

!!/test protonmail.com

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

naa- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Can tomato paste be substituted for tomato purée? by deep_succ_69 on cooking.SE

tpu- by Videonauth

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Why are my pygame images not loading? by Donald Trump on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Videonauth

4:32 PM

@שelz protonmail is legit

Blacklist the full email, not just that

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How can I plot 5-dimensional data graphically? by rimanguz on math.SE

fp- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: how to change location of the plugins & wordpress themes folder by Adolfo Usier Fotógrafo Coimbra on wordpress.SE

Merged SmokeDetector #1506.

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Restart: API quota is 11863.

Merged SmokeDetector #1505.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Password Reset Script For My Registration System by Malik Talha on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Password Reset Script For My Registration System by Malik Talha on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

4:57 PM

yah, Smokey, we all got it now that I misclicked :P

naa- by ByteCommander on how to change location of the plugins & wordpress themes folder [MS]

since when does f and n cause conflicting feedback?

@ByteCommander CONFORM TO STATUS QUO OR BE EXTERMINATED

I DID ALREADY, DUH

@Floern no actually it's just because the previous post has no feedback

5:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Password Reset Script For My Registration System by Malik Talha on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

It would have done that for a tp or an fp, just not an naa

fp- by ByteCommander

5:13 PM

@ByteCommander NON-CONFORMING BEHAVIOR IDENTIFIED INITIALIZING EXTERMINATION PROCEDURES

cough cough Smokey abuse!

@ByteCommander I AM PERFECTLY FINE NOT BEING ABUSED AT ALL help me

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5:29 PM

@ArtOfCode wait hold up I forgot they were tied to the session

what I'm doing right now won't actually work lol

hmmm maybe I can get the bots to fetch the fkey while they're at it just to be lazy

@DavidPostill I know, I'm applying Hanlon's Razor here.

@thesecretmaster I'm confused, add_hook doesn't seem to take a server

thesecretmaster

Yeah... hooks are kinda an afterthought. I'll look and see if I can change it, or if there's a reason for it being the way it is.

Oh, it's because I didn't want to have to mess with the structure of @hooks.

Really, it should be an array of Hook objects.

You need to key on server and room ID

Room IDs are not unique across servers

that is room ID 1 could be SO room 1 or SE room 1 or MSE room 1

thesecretmaster

Yeah, I know. It just defaults to the global default room.

I think

Yes, and there's an easy fix

or... sorta

I'm looking

5:39 PM

Just make the keys tuples or whatever

I use a tuple (site, room_id) all the time as an identifier

like this one: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

or this one: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

or maybe even this one: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

I could have made it a class but eh

thesecretmaster

Yeah. The convention I've been using is having a hash like {"stackexchange" => [], "meta.stackexchange" => [], "stackoverflow => []}

So I think I'll just do that with hooks.

I'm wondering if we're going to get to peer-review this web app coursework... cuz if we are then I'm gonna have fun finding all the security holes

like making sure this thing is secure is the bit that's taking me the longest, you can bet plenty of people aren't going to know or bother

thesecretmaster

5:53 PM

@quartata gitlab.com/izwick-schachter/ChatX/tree/add_server_to_hooks

It's on a branch because it's untested, I'll merge to master once I test it out. But it should work.

6:08 PM

@thesecretmaster looks right to me

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How to get Windows 10 Activator? by AlexandraRoberts on softwarerecs.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode I was thinking about the (two) SOBotics bots that actually use ML models and how we'd handle that

FireAlarm would probably be OK using DynamoDB, but I'm trying to decide what to do for Queen

I was thinking maybe either letting them use our Redis or alternatively store whatever data it needs in-memory ourselves and send it to it with each request

if it's small

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@quartata machine learning datasets are never small

@ArtOfCode I'm talking about the actual trained models

it depends on what they are

6:16 PM

@quartata yeah those too

you're probably talking 30+ MB for a good model

The decent sized ones I've got here are 3 MB (3 hidden layers, about 50 inputs)

Granted they're also serialized

But those are nets

and they're not NLP

so no dictionary or other vectorizer data

in other words it depends, I pinged Petter to ask

@quartata IIRC most of SOBotics' stuff isn't nets

nets are basically the smallest models

Yeah, I know. NB filters are a lot bigger but also easier to store in a database (like FireAlarm does)

it's usually just key value

SVMs are also not big

(well, depends on the kernel)

Anyways I was thinking maybe something hybrid could work

word vectorization data goes in dynamodb

we ship off the model parameters

6:36 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: Require ip 127.0.0.1 works sometimes and sometimes' it won't by hamza arif on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

!!/watch-force telecomacadmey\.com

@Glorfindel Added telecomacadmey\.com to watchlist

^ that's the spammer's typo, not mine.

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6:51 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: CURL won't work over CURLOPT_PROXY server issue? by Alex Roseland on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Non-Latin link in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Firebase Analytics: Event Parameters not Logged on FB Console by Nima programmer on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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7:20 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: how to link image swift 3 by mohama mohamadi on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, offensive answer detected: Can the legal owner of a vehicle cancel a change of keeper request? by dddd on money.SE

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thesecretmaster

8:05 PM

@quartata There was a bug on my branch, testing and fixing now.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link: yt_analytics_report.py reporting 0 values by rrrRbert360 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Один js скрипт несколько select by Isaev Maxim on ru.stackoverflow.com

8:39 PM

sd why

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9:13 PM

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to extract or unpack an .ab file (Android Backup file) by user9216957 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

9:40 PM

naa- by DavidPostill

@NobodyNada What's the schema FireAlarm uses to store the filter look like?

@NobodyNada Ah, nevermind found it

github.com/SOBotics/FireAlarm/blob/master/Sources/FireAlarm/…

If we ported this to DynamoDB you'd want to use word in ... to fetch all the probabilities at once

although actually

nevermind that would still be the same number of reads huh

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: how to add button for each row record in apex5 by Someone Pissed Off on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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10:19 PM

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1 hour later…

11:24 PM

@ArtOfCode yo check out Guttenberg's new dashboard: copypastor.sobotics.org/posts/7

We're going to need to make whatever templating solution we come up with pretty flexible to make that diff

aye, I've seen it

but that's totally possible

Handlebars or something, just let bot creators have total control

Handlebars is a good idea

or any other good templating language

Normally not a fan of client side templating but this is a good use case

11:54 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: Hiding the http referer headers data of the exact page path using exit page by N4d on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

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