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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: How to turn continuous signal into a short pulse using logic gates? by Raivis on electronics.SE

@Undo Also, any network access at all is going to kill numbers. DNS checks aren't really feasible unless you have some super aggressive caching somewhere.

fp- by Glorfindel

4:51 PM

The numbers are better than last time I ran them, though. Maybe it's possible to do. It'd definitely be cool.

That would mean we're doing 8 posts per batch on average? Our queue sizes aren't that conservative

oh, if you're batching

But batching has its drawbacks. Execution time will scale kinda linearly.

Maybe better than linear

@Undo DNS checks are quick, though. Those shouldn't be an issue.

like. sub-millisecond quick in most cases

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Ways to quickly beat beginners by Alex on chess.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

5:01 PM

@SmokeDetector I didn't know they could be used as verbs :)

@Undo No I'm saying your numbers aren't making sense. 100K per day is a staggeringly huge number. That's more than a post per second

Our average batch size is about 2

We'd run out of quota halfway through the day if we were dealing with that volume

We scan more than a post per second on average

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/smoke_detector/6/…

We don't run out of quota because of the clever batching, and a lot of those are answers

Maybe we're conflating question with post

If there were 100K questions per day we'd run out of quota, period

But we get answers with each call

Yes.

5:08 PM

I'm estimating we get more like 25K questions per day

But we still have to scan the answers.

@Undo How many hours per month do you get at the free tier?

I'm assuming it's based on hours right

Or is it more complicated

Gigabyte-seconds.

bandwith * time?

RAM*time

5:18 PM

Oh.

RAM being correlated to overall performance of the runner. More ram, more CPU.

all right how many of those

steps of 128 from 128 to 3 GB

dunno. It's right there if you look up "Lambda pricing"

OK so that's using the compute pricing

Let's be generous and say we consume 100 MB. Even if we use all of our API quota every day, we still can afford 6 seconds per batch

(.1 * 6) * 20,000 * 30 = 360,000, pricing page says max is 400,000

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body: Looking for an Hair Facial design Software used in a research paper on facial recognition by user191205 on stats.SE

5:27 PM

That may seem like it's cutting it fine but that's the most extreme circumstance

tpu- by Jake Symons

@SmokeDetector accidental (retracted)

@Undo You are right in that if we called the lambda on each individual post we would run out of requests quota (1M)

But since we batch anyways it works out

just feed the api response

Request quota isn't the cost driver, though

Resources spent on each request is.

did you see my math above? I'm pretty sure I got it right

5:35 PM

Yeah. Looks right to me. Ifff you can stay under 128M

I think that if we're consuming more memory than that we need a refactor anyways

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: What Is Male Extra? by ailijoo on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Jake Symons

Those ones are slow as heck. CPU scales with RAM

So if you want a faster one, you get more RAM

Whether you need the RAM or not. You pay for the CPU through the RAM

That's evil

so wait I have to deliberately consume more RAM for it to upscale

No. You select the size

5:38 PM

or are you saying you select a maximum RAM when you deploy because that would make more sense

Yes

All right. What's Helios running on?

and what CPU do you get at the 128 tier

Whatever Serverless defaults are

let me google

Nothing Hellos does is CPU bound. Most time is spent waiting for DDB, so we can get away with minimums

5:41 PM

Ah OK i see how this works now

128 is the lowest so it's probably pretty bad

Experimenting is the best way to tell

they have a nice chart with the maximum seconds so I'll take a look at that

Wait, are we going to pay someone to run Smokey - especially now that SE has officially acknowledged they need us?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: communicate vmware | use shared memory c++ by Lars Luecke on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

I mean, most of us are paying people

But this would be free

Not dissimilar to a cocaine dealer's business model

first gigabyte second taste is free

@Undo We can afford a 512 MB if it can do a batch in ~2.5 seconds

hopefully it could

probably would need to say 2 seconds to leave some quota for commands

Thomas Ward

5:50 PM

@JohnDvorak Why would they pay us lol. Even if SE acknowledges we're a VERY useful component that is run externally, we aren't employed by SE to do it heh

3

some of us just have spare server cycles lying around that we can waste :)

anyways it's in the realm of possibility which means my work is not in vain rn

@quartata Depends on warmup time, then. Sounds very possible.

(and you don't have to stay in the free tier. A couple bucks a month is fine)

I would hope that AWS keeps a Python VM running

If I'm running it, which I can't commit to right now

@quartata They do some magic along those lines, yeah

Mind you this would in theory replace all of our instances. So no matter how it plays out it would certainly be less than what we're all paying together

generous use of we there since I'm paying $0

I'm that asshole who orders lobster basically

Thomas Ward

5:53 PM

@quartata i don't pay for our instance. i pay for my servers. my Smokeys just sit on the two beefy boxes I run already, so no extra cost for me either way :P

Hard to beat electricity costs on a Pi

I don't believe Art or angus run anything else on their EC2s

I'm totally lost :)

I hear money and memory and other then that, straight over my head

don't worry about it

@Undo stationary bike and a generator

5:57 PM

@JohnDvorak lol

@SmokeDetector v

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer: Xamarin- Rtl Support in Xamarin.android by ramkal on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

naa- by Glorfindel

tpu- by Jake Symons

@Glorfindel NAA or spam?

mod deletion says spam

CalvT븃

@JakeSymons Vandalism

6:05 PM

no, it's just a regular deletion.

So its either, spam, not an answer, or vandalism?

Vandalism was the report before this one.

I can see how you could consider the Xamarin forms spam (because it's promoting a feature request on another site).

But that's rather contrived, so I went with NAA.

@Glorfindel Well my flag says helpful so that's another step closer to Marshal :)

First gold badge

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, +1 more: Exilera Male Enhancement - Reduces your excess body fat by Exilera Male Enhancement on askubuntu.com

Q: I am new to java for android development and need a coach

-5

I _am _new _to _java _for _android _development _and _need _a _coach

6:11 PM

Yeah, but NAA is a better (safer) choice. You might encounter moderators who'll decline the spam flag before deleting the post.

Just one of those lol moments, but whats with the hypens?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: How to change the datetime format in pandas by Code williamAndrew Skill on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Jake Symons

API quota rolled over with 7891 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

math: 266
stackoverflow: 200
superuser: 66
askubuntu: 40
serverfault: 38
codegolf: 37
physics: 36
electronics: 20
english: 20
unix: 18
apple: 16
dba: 14
drupal: 13
salesforce: 13
gaming: 12
android: 12
mathoverflow.net: 11
money: 10
webapps: 10
academia: 10
es.stackoverflow: 9
bitcoin: 9
softwareengineering: 9
skeptics: 9
magento: 8
gis: 8
security: 8
ethereum: 8
puzzling: 7
pt.stackoverflow: 7
graphicdesign: 7
arduino: 7
ell: 6
rpg: 6
stats: 6
meta: 6
emacs: 6
wordpress: 6
aviation: 6
mathematica: 6

@JakeSymons IDK. Maybe their keyboard automatically enters an underscore after each space...

@Glorfindel Do some people believe that they would get tutored for free?

Yes, but probably not to the extent the author of that question wants.

6:23 PM

-5

Q: Killer Sudoku Solver

Can a Killer Sudoku be solved with Python langage ?

python

Andy

Yes it can

+1000 pls

Is this R/A? (Random troll image?)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: How build tree of FP-growth algorithm in c# by Motasem Hezam on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

naa- by FelixSFD

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

> Your grandmother, Bassam, I tell you

tpu in my opinion

tpu by ArtOfCode on Exilera Male Enhancement - Reduces your excess body fat [MS]

A: API cache behavior can be exploited to hide posts from API clients

6:37 PM

7

As of the latest deploy, the API will no longer honor empty cached results if the method looks up the returned type by it's id (a method that returns posts by post_id, for example). Additionally a fix went out to address a query pattern that could result in a cached result living longer than int...

Let us know if you see any more "Could not find data for this post in the API"

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: incorporating three points of data in a single sentence by Shadowtail on english.SE

@SmokeDetector why?

@DJMcMayhem Body - Position 170-190: company in Bangalore, Position 497-517: company in Bangalore

@SmokeDetector f

CalvT븃

6:57 PM

@JakeSymons Are you sure Electorate won't be? ;P

In other news, my first PI has turned up complete with relay hat \o/

If the relay thing doesn't work out then might try running Smokey or something on it

@Magisch you around?

@ArtOfCode aye

ookay that was quick

I had the window open in the background

@Magisch I'll have a thing for you to try in a minute

Magisch

7:04 PM

And the SE chat ping is very distinct

I was banking on having more setup time :)

@Magisch TL;DR: review queues for SEDE queries. 46c5eb6a.ngrok.io/data-sources

That's a good idea

Magisch

interesting

in fact... can someone load that and tell me whether all the scripts are loading? They are for me, but I suspect that's only because they're on localhost for me

7:20 PM

Wants me to sign in tho

status-bydesign

as long as you're not getting any 404s (or other errors, for that matter) loading the thing

nope

other than Chrome whining about there being no https

sweet

eh

ngrok will let you load it over https, but the scripts are http so if you do then the scripts are mixed content and won't load

7:40 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Not able to find Production keys of Pay360 by Rob C on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

7:51 PM

yay my new toolkit arrived

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Maca Primary Extract: Maca root is the most well-known by user781641 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

doppelgreener

!!/report rpg.stackexchange.com/a/113254/1204

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to kill a character without making their player too angry by JONES on rpg.SE

@SmokeDetector k

8:15 PM

@ArtOfCode toolkit?

@Undo electronics repair toolkit

doppelgreener

@SmokeDetector I've made a pull request that will cover future spam like that: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1484

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: What are the preservatives in protein bars? by user64348 on cooking.SE

fp- by DJMcMayhem

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: How do astronomers measure the distance of the planets from its star? by poopypoop4 on physics.SE

8:30 PM

@SmokeDetector K

@SmokeDetector naa-

!!/report physics.stackexchange.com/a/379359

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How do astronomers measure the distance of the planets from its star? by poopypoop4 on physics.SE

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector k

hey @DJMcMayhem you still banned from SE?

8:33 PM

@שelz You mean rate-limited?

No, that was only like 5 minutes

@DJMcMayhem whatever it was

ah good.

If I was banned from SE for over 24 hours, I'd probably start experiencing withdrawal symptoms :P

detoxing

!!/report stackoverflow.com/questions/48215460/do-you-need-a-dev-teacher

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Do you need a Dev Teacher? by Yanis HEDJEM on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

8:42 PM

how come FIRE didn't auto-report for me?

FIRE doesn't do that

What does?

FDSC is meant to but may well be broken

I do have FDSC

it's broken then :)

@Undo ^

8:47 PM

Is there even a V2 route for that

yup

@ArtOfCode Is that an ifixit set?

I've got one of those too. I love it :)

@DJMcMayhem aye

I get asked to fix people's stuff a fair bit, so I figured I should probably get a toolkit and actually make it easy for myself

Funny story: I got pencil lead stuck in my phone because I needed to remove the SIM card, and I was an idiot and though that sticking a mechanical pencil in my phone wasn't a horrible idea. I was super upset cause I couldn't fix it with any of the tools I had. The next day when I went in to work, my coworker randomly gave me an ifixit set for free, and it was exactly what I needed to fix my phone.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Public NextLife Coin - Github contributors requested to optimise / compile the code by Sdavic on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

8:50 PM

Apparently his cousin works for them and had an extra set he didn't need, so he gave it to my coworker, and he didn't need it so he gave it to me.

It was quite the lucky coincidence.

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Storing duplicate fields: good or bad by Quinn Daley on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@DJMcMayhem Neat :)

I'm already loving the SIM ejector attachment. Everything I have needs it and I keep losing my paperclips

Yeah, the SIM ejector attachment is pretty fantastic.

The other tool I really love is the tweezers. Very high precision and useful

My kit is a little bit smaller than yours

Aye. Haven't had anyone give me things to fix yet, but I can imagine

@DJMcMayhem someone gave me an Amazon voucher at Christmas... so since I wasn't paying I went and got the full kit

wouldn't have done if I was actually paying for it

Nice

I actually have no idea how much any of them cost, since I didn't buy mine

Oh, your kit comes with an anti-static wrist bracelet! That's pretty sweet

8:59 PM

@DJMcMayhem lol

@DJMcMayhem aye. I've chanced it and done my PC builds without one before, just grounding myself whenever it seems like I should, but having one is probably better :)

@SmokeDetector v

tpu by WELZ on Do you need a Dev Teacher? [MS]

Mithrandir

9:20 PM

@ArtOfCode @JohnDvorak this particular function of FDSC being broken is perhaps the longest-standing bug in Charcoal history.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: maximizedmuscleideas.com/testo-max-xtreme by testomaxxtreme on graphicdesign.SE

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: How to measure water turbidity with arduino by blob on arduino.SE

micsthepick

@SmokeDetector k

Is is a good idea to run smokey on some of the older models of the pi?

9:39 PM

Speaking of Amazon vouchers...

Anyone here ever dabble in drones?

I have some Amazon dollars. Looks like I could get a Phantom 3 standard for ~$399 list price, which is awfully tempting

Catija

I don't know about here but AJ does...

Which one?

I know AJ Henderson is into photography

Catija

Henderson... mod on Video production... same one.

He's a DP and uses drones somewhat... I think he's even following/committed to the drone proposal. Rory I think knows some, too.

76

Drones

Proposed Q&A site for hobbyist, professional and commercial drone flyers, racers and builders (all types)"

Currently in commitment.

10:24 PM

Restart: API quota is 17418.

angussidney

@micsthepick I’ve run it on my Pi 1B a few times, and it was really bad, but I’m not sure how much my bad network affected that

The original B, not the B+

@quartata I don’t run anything else on it (yet - I’m working on something that will run on it in the future)

10:43 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: Reconstruct fractal - Apollonian Gasket style by 窪田牧子 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

micsthepick

how bad could the B + go?

@SmokeDetector k

I have a couple just sitting around looking for something to do

11:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Charging and discharging laptop Lithium ion cells or alt suggestion by Ian Molloy on electronics.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Using Flexbox position sticky by inna472 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Laravel , como ejecutar a un seeder diferente al DataBaseSeeder.php by Albert Sanchez Guerrero on es.stackoverflow.com

tpu- by ArtOfCode on Using Flexbox position sticky [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: How to select 'mat-checkbox' in selenium webdriver? by inna472 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Hey. I have site and How make it popular? Do you like protitutes? by inna472 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Rob on Charging and discharging laptop Lithium ion cells or alt suggestion [MS]

tpu- by ArtOfCode on How to select 'mat-checkbox' in selenium webdriver? [MS]

tpu- by ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector NSFW

@SmokeDetector likewise

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Turn Windows 7 desktop into grayscale by Daniel Wayne Johnston on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Rob on Laravel , como ejecutar a un seeder diferente al DataBaseSeeder.php [MS]

11:33 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: jQuery sort array value in sequence by inni472 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by ArtOfCode

!!/blacklist-website okean\.cc

@ArtOfCode Blacklisted okean\.cc

@SmokeDetector k

fp by iBug on Turn Windows 7 desktop into grayscale [MS]

fp by iBug on Not able to find Production keys of Pay360 [MS]

CI on 4980458 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4980458 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of okean\.cc by ArtOfCode --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 16835.

@ArtOfCode Do we have sorting in MS? Or what's the top weight FP report so far?

11:41 PM

+-------+---------------------+
| id    | sum(reasons.weight) |
+-------+---------------------+
| 24413 |                 301 |
| 99998 |                 293 |
| 46805 |                 260 |
| 56777 |                 260 |
| 97622 |                 260 |
+-------+---------------------+

@iBug ^

this post

closely followed but two years later by this post

11:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Does it take a larger force to stop a faster object? by randie on physics.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Code migration from Swift 2.x to Swift 4 by Juan Montesinos on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by ArtOfCode on Does it take a larger force to stop a faster object? [MS]

naa- by ArtOfCode

@ArtOfCode 99998 makes no sense for FP

@iBug how so?

@ArtOfCode Oh, my bad.

It's a translation question.

also @Undo wanna find out what the 100kth post is?

cuz it's not the one with ID 100000

@ArtOfCode Sure you can

See Undo's comment on the right site

The report right above that comment is the 100kth.

I can somehow recall it's a TP on Ask Ubuntu.

11:57 PM

select id from (select * from posts limit 100000) as tbl order by id desc limit 1 should do it

@iBug ah but that's no fun :)

@ArtOfCode I see you're trying to find that out with SQL. You should totally drop that and use jQuery.

sure why not

555

A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: jQuery Originator: Unknown (possibly Ólafur Waage) Cultural Height: TBD Background: A Stack Overflow-centric meme, jQuery began its career early on as the answer to beat for any question that even remotely referenced JavaScript. Its popularity became so great that eventually jQuery becam...