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9:01 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: www.muscle4supplement.com/muscle-nit-xt/ by Geohmad on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Magisch

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: Take healthful diet plan collectively with proteins by triciajuriya on apple.SE

sd k - k

@DJMcMayhem your IPS account isn't very hidden if you include a link to your network flair in the profile...

@Mithrandir IPS account?

@Mithrandir IPS account?

@iBug was that accidental, I post stuff twice all the time :)

Bad network.

When I submit a chat message, I get a prompt to retry/edit/cancel.

Then I picked retry and end up posting twice.

9:12 AM

@iBug yeah happens to me all the time, especially when at work and the network is slow

@JakeSymons Network slow at work... How can that be a work place?

@iBug some of them are actually phone numbers but that alone doesn't make a post spam, of course

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: keeps you lively and stronger by tricia juriya on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

@tripleee So I decided to drop that idea.

@iBug jungle explorer in Borneo is a job, too

9:16 AM

@tripleee Kinda better than a plumber.

like Super Mario is.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in title: skincaresfreetrial.com/instantly-ageless/ by uharmyspy on meta.SE (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.revivalantiagingcream.com/firmaluxe-cream/ by Yanirkj on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

sd 2k

[:42103991] <processed without return value>
[:42103988] That message is not a report.

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector k

sd - k - k

9:28 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: FOR MORE INFO:-%&@==<>www.health2facts.com/maxx-boost/ by shirley on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: I'm unable to figure out the logical solution to a problem; how do I keep writing? by user23876 on writers.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: AutoCAD Architecture Vision Tools in AutoCAD by intel BUILD on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Jake Symons

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in body: RSA Calculating, find d by Gerrard A. on crypto.SE

fp- by Glorfindel

Phone number and Messaging number???

sd - f - k - k - k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body: Radiant Bloom Review by Radiant Bloom on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

9:44 AM

sd - k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: x4up.org/primal-growth/ by lirkanidra on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/primal-growth/ by ucyhpgjvh on apple.SE

tpu- by iBug

Thanks to Smokey I've got a list full of red flags on AU and Apple.

Soon "Marshal" everywhere.

!!/watch intelbuild\.in

@iBug You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1454 for you.

Merged SmokeDetector #1454.

CI on 690174f succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 690174f (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1454 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1515145628.383337 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 17172.

!!/test fitwaypoint.hatenadiary.com

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

9:51 AM

this looks vaguely like a blogspot-ish site in Japan, we really should have a look at how to identify pharma sites on popular blog platforms since they seem to have been doing this for several weeks now

!!/blacklist-keyword fitwaypoint

@paper1111 Blacklisted fitwaypoint

for the time being every hit I have seen was in a post which also had a link to a pharma site, usually one which we already blacklist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Important Detail About Toe Nail Fungus by Catherinrook on drupal.SE

but this again raises the topic of keeping the pharma resources in a separate list or database

9:52 AM

tpu- by Glorfindel

CI on d49fba7 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d49fba7 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of fitwaypoint by paper1111 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 17141.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: Testro T3:>Never stress over the unkempt by carolall on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 19 secs ago, by tripleee

FYI https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/1455 <- re the experimental reasons being reported here

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: PHP Script shows up when submit is clicked by Marius Johan on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector f but horrible, needs one more close vote

gone now, thanks

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: lumalifteye.com/alluraluxe/ by user778962 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu by Zanna

10:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: MICT that lasted for greater than 6 weeks by user778965 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/primal-growth/ by user270798 on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

sd - k - k - k - f

@SmokeDetector f

@SmokeDetector f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Sharing code/method/function between AngularJS controllers by Pallavi on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

tp- by micsthepick

!!/watch sparkinfosys

10:28 AM

lag

@Glorfindel Added sparkinfosys to watchlist

huh, FIRE won't let you change a rating

FIRE takes a while to start for me. Is it normal?

@SmokeDetector tpu-

CI on 7791caa succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7791caa (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of sparkinfosys by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

10:30 AM

yuck, now there is two of my ratings

Restart: API quota is 16777.

@NVZ could be related to Metasmoke slowness, it was tardy earlier (not sure about now, haven't tried)

@tripleee It's often slow to load, like, takes up to 3 seconds or more to pop up.

I have a good internet connection, up to 1MB/s.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Biogenic XR This honor winning project by Lisajlucas on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector k

10:34 AM

@SmokeDetector why

Title - Position 1-12: Biogenic XR
Body - Position 4-15: Biogenic XR, Position 274-285: biogenic-xr, Position 336-347: biogenic-xr
Body - Position 262-273: xtrfact.com, Position 324-335: xtrfact.com
Post - Link at end: http://xtrfact.com/biogenic-xr-uk/</a>

@NVZ do you get slow performance via the Metasmoke web interface too?

say look at metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/98656

^ fwiw that's the previous sparkinfosys hit

reasonably snappy for me now

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: The most effective a hundred% natural PE Biogenic XR by Tinajlehman on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

@tripleee regarding metasmoke site; it was already slow for me; say, clicking on "flagging" or "review" tab takes a while for the page to indicate any signs of activity. Today, it's fine. This slowness happens on occasions.

tpu- by Cai

10:36 AM

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/primal-growth/ by lirka nidra on astronomy.SE

tpu- by NVZ

tpu- by micsthepick

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: fitnesstalkzone.com/testro-t3/ by user111785 on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by micsthepick

@SmokeDetector For these link-only question titles, why don't SE prevent them from being asked in the first place?

SE does not really prevent anything from being asked AFAIK

@micsthepick too bad, that is.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: advancemenpower.com/endovex/ by citruveydo on astronomy.SE

10:45 AM

sd k

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How do I concatenate const/literal strings in C? by jef on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@micsthepick there is a fair amount of filtering and e.g. MySQL questions get a custom callout in some situations but proposals to add more heuristics have generally not been making much progress even when they were reasonably well-defined, specific, and popular

tpu- by FelixSFD

there is some work going on to improve the first-time poster experience which might also spill into some improvements in this area if I understand correctly

a weird block is you can't post a question with a title which is identical to that of an existing question

10:49 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Where does the translation came from? Java servlet, tomcat and Ext-Js Sencha application by khushbu singh on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

I mean I understand the rationale for that but there are other things you could do which are less prone to false positives and probably more useful

!!/watch payghanta\.com

@Glorfindel Added payghanta\.com to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Menu dropdown disapears behind slider by Capt. Jeff Thompson on wordpress.SE

@SmokeDetector f

@SmokeDetector f

10:52 AM

CI on f27bbf5 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev f27bbf5 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of payghanta\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16542.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Freelancer working on shopping cart with access to Paypal API Credentials by khushbu singh on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: www.health2facts.org/testo-genesis-20/ by WayneHill on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

!!/test obfusecated-text.payghanta.com

> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 18-31: payghanta.com
Body - Position 18-31: payghanta.com
Username - Position 18-31: payghanta.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Desktop software to convert YouTube files to MP3 by user36242 on softwarerecs.SE

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/… <- do we have a domain tag for "software company in India" type posts?

@tripleee Guess we need one / If there exists one it will be helpful.

reviewed all the tags so the answer is no we don't have one already metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/domains/tags

but what should we call it?

11:00 AM

You can go and create one.

simply #software-development?

@iBug I certainly know that, I think I have created 90% of those (-:

Too broad.

What about plain India?

@iBug no, that's too broad

and I don't care if they are in India really

the purpose of domain tags is really to group similar posts which cannot be easily grouped otherwise so what exactly we call it is mainly a human factors question

Looks like #*software-development* is an appropriate one.

Can't italic hash #?

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/domains/tags/61 <- there now

11:04 AM

Need Core privilege to add tags to domains?

hmmm I guess maybe yeah

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: Testro T3 supplementch3mistry.com/testro-t3-uk/ by jomarfeb on astronomy.SE

tpu- by iBug

I think I have to spend some more time getting myself known before I can be added to the "Core" group.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/primal-growth/ by elsa marvin on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Jake Symons

sd k

11:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Javascript how to parse JSON array by bibipal1212 on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by iBug

@SmokeDetector that took a while to be deleted :)

@iBug damn :( As an Indian its kinda sad for me to see India constantly associated with spam.

@SurajRao Meant no offense

none taken.. neither of us have any control over that part of reality

If you retract a flag, can you reflag?

11:13 AM

@SurajRao But hey. There's a term "Spam Hour"

@JakeSymons Depends.

@JakeSymons You can't flag as spam/rude if you retracted a rude/spam.

@JakeSymons You can't flag for closure/NAA/VLQ if you retracted one of the same type.

@JakeSymons "in need of moderator attention" is not affected. You can re-flag infinitely.

@SurajRao I can recall someone told me that the "spam hour" is 4 AM UTC to 12 PM UTC, known as the business hour in India.

hmm 9:30AM to 5:30PM IST..sounds about right

@SurajRao GMT+5:30 ???

I know bits about SEO since I did it for one site. I know they require backlinks from popular sites just to enhance their ranking. AFAIK google, it doesn't tolerate if you're spamming in order to do so. The SEO people who are posting spams here are not professionals IMO.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body: Testro T3 Review: Testosterone Booster, Get your free trial now by testrot0 on apple.SE

@iBug you're in pretty good shape IMHO but the other project admins haven't been around much over the holidays so there hasn't been an opportunity to discuss it

11:19 AM

@iBug yes..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Standard_Time

@tripleee Thanks for the compliment. I'd like to account that for my decent learning skills :)

@AJ I can offer some speculation on the economy behind this behavior but the old timers have heard my speculations many times before ... the last time I think I used the term "boiler room"

Dec 14 '17 at 7:04, by tripleee

@iBug we see some pretty impressive copy/paste errors from time to time, I have this image of people in a boiler room copy/pasting from a Word document into web sites while a big bald guy with a whip makes sure they don't take breaks

but that was a slightly different context

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Experience of anyone with Mobite Foundation Post Graduation Endowment Scholarship 2018? by user85467 on academia.SE

tpu- by iBug

but anyway, basic outsourcing of the spam activity to somebody who only cares about the pay, not about the results

capitalism 101, make things suck by trying to make them cheaper than they can be

Wee seee someee pretty impressiveee copy/pasteee errors from timeee to timeee

11:25 AM

and still, to paraphrase Barnum, get some schmuck to pay more than it's worth

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: skincaresfreetrial.com/pure-ceramides-youth-cream/ by user778991 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector k

user image

@tripleee This is what I wrote when I was 14.

A Win32 console Tetris game with a built-in auto-play mode, which is an implementation of an algorithm found online.

(Self-promotion ahead!) Source

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: How to assign a certain numerical value to column number in Excel VBA by gcat on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tp- by J F

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Testo Genesis, Testo Genesis by Gilbert Castro on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector k

11:33 AM

@SmokeDetector v

!!/blacklist-keyword testo\W?genesis

@tripleee Blacklisted testo\W?genesis

!!/blacklist-keyword pure\W?ceramides

@tripleee Blacklisted pure\W?ceramides

@tripleee Do we maintain the blacklist regularly by merging stuffs?

11:36 AM

13/13 but #3 and older are from over 2 years ago

Like ab ac ad ae -> a(b|c|d|e)

CI on c920438 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev c920438 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of pure\W?ceramides by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

@iBug there is no proper discipline but refactoring makes it harder to easily see what's already covered so I'm not even sure we should

Restart: API quota is 16130.

but that may just be me

11:37 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Replacing a fragment via ImageView by John Milland on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tp- by J F

@SmokeDetector v

@tripleee So we just leave the blacklist as-is?

@iBug I'm sure there are many ways it could be improved but that's not one I'm convinced we should do

also, if we move it to Helios soon, probably not a good time to try to set up a routine

@tripleee What could in terms of performance?

but if you see something which is clearly wrong or inefficient or weird it's probably worth looking into

@iBug I've been meaning to run some timeout experiments on the watchlist but last time I tried it looked vaguely like my queries were killing Metasmoke so I stopped doing that

11:40 AM

@tripleee How did it?

!!/test Delete................................

> Few unique characters in body, mostly dots in body, mostly dots in title
----------
Title - Post contains 32 dots out of 38 characters
Post - Contains 5 unique characters
Post - Post contains 32 dots out of 38 characters

it's basically the same code as Halflife but I was running it in a tight loop

I think the Halflife repo has a branch called something watch something

Strange. Where's mostly dots here?

it's still my personal repo

tpu by suraj on Testro T3 Review: Testosterone Booster, Get your free trial now [MS]

11:42 AM

but basically, for pattern in watch, metasmoke query, see if we get a single hit from long ago, many hits recently (promote to blacklist) or something else

!!/test <p>Delete................................</p>

> Few unique characters in body, mostly dots in body, mostly dots in title
----------
Title - Post contains 32 dots out of 38 characters
Post - Contains 5 unique characters
Post - Post contains 32 dots out of 38 characters

Looks like random miss again.

one way to avoid overloading Metasmoke is to fetch the entire posts archive and run locally

@tripleee That's what I'm thinking of.

11:43 AM

but I didn't want to do that because then what's the point of having a central archive with a query API

stabilizing Metasmoke would earn you an immediate gold star from me but that's a pretty touch challenge to even specify properly, let alone then actually implement

and it's Ruby so if you're trying to learn Python here, that's not a good fit

My god...

I guess I wouldn't touch so much more new programming languages in a few years it it's not for Stack Overflow.

the Helios effort would obviously be nice to finish but I have no idea where Andy and Quartata are with that and whether there is a way you could help them out

I doubt I have the ability.

of coss the chat filtering bug I reported earlier today should be reasonably low-hanging fruit but testing and debugging chat is ... not entirely straightforward

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/1455

@tripleee Surely a bug.

I saw at least one per day on average in Tavern on the Meta.

11:53 AM

I think I have a branch in my fork of SmokeDetector where I tried to refactor chat so you could have it use a different set of rooms for testing but of course that's not going to be very useful after chat got revamped

maybe it would be easier to do that now though

BTW, is 1446 OK to merge?

Both CI build failed and I have no idea at all what those CIs are.

hang on, lemme check

"Your build output is too large to display in the browser. Only the first 400000 characters are displayed." circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/…

_regex_core.error: unbalanced parenthesis at position 16839

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Liquibase cannot find my entity classes to generate diff in spring project by karthi on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector f

arguably the error trace is horrendous in this case

Wait let me check.

11:57 AM

the link is from the "CircleCI failed, see details" notice in your PR status

Makes no sense

I thought lines starting with a hash are comments!

nope, there's no support for regular comments in the regex file

you might be able to articulate a regex which is guaranteed to not match anything

Fixed that now.

I've done that in a couple of places as well but it's not really recommended and we should probably try to get rid of those

I think I'm going to add that comment support.

12:01 PM

perhaps not really worth your time because Helios

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in body: open .dmp file and get erors , how to fix it? by michael sion on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

the entire regex is slated to move from a text file to something a bit more manageable

@SmokeDetector f

T or F?

@tripleee Do we report TP (or FP) for "this post is eligible for red flag" or "this is a good hit for the reason"?

@iBug the latter

vandalism is tp and we don't redflag that

@Magisch What about the mostly dots above?

12:03 PM

@Magisch uh, no? I think you misunderstand the question (or maybe I do)

@tripleee What about the current state of PR 1446?

I think Magisch is telling you the difference between tp and tpu

whereas I imagine you are asking "should we say it's a true positive if it's not really spam or abusive" to which the answer is definitely no

@tripleee That's the answer I'm looking for.

@tripleee tp is still true positive

tpu just also blacklists

vandalism is a true positive (tp) but not worthy of a blacklist or redflag

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How to display images from web service? by Tabish Shaikh on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by iBug

12:06 PM

tp = something we would want Smokey at a system level to block from being posted to SE.

@iBug I'll remove the remaining comments and merge, thanks

@tripleee Thanks, too.

Don't we have comment detection?

Meh. It's only available to watched keywords.

I'll try adding support for the rest.

really, don't bother, the file format may be dead in a week or two

here's the Helios spec gist.github.com/AWegnerGitHub/f17e4f65c089712f888de429323cd86b

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Webview: block JavaScript popups by user8747504 on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Deliberate typo? a central SmokeDetector databsae

12:11 PM

tpu- by iBug

surely not deliberate, I noticed it too but this is in good progress and so fixing the plan at this point is also pointless

Has any conceptual work been done on the unified response model?

@Magisch I don't know who could answer other than Andy or Quartata or maybe Angus, try @Art?

I think the comment support isn't too hard to add

Should be tens of bytes of modification.

CI on fbfb48f succeeded.

12:14 PM

I can see how that would be easy to do and it would be useful if we were stuck with these files, but the plan is to remove them completely very very soon

Aren't comments good?

sure, but you don't seem to understand what I'm trying to tell you -- don't write good code which will be obsolete tomorrow if you can write good code which will be useful in the longer term

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: School management software on Ubuntu by JGere on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

really no idea if that's acceptable on Ask Ubuntu, the question seems like a regular spam magnet

It has three answers all for the same tool (including the upvoted one)

12:19 PM

It takes 20 bytes to add comment support :)

@iBug even then, to be slightly blunt, given that we don't have a lot of people who can review contributions and who are active right now, don't waste those resources on this

@tripleee I \

I'm not sure how far I can contribute to those as I'm really new to Python.

I appreciate your initiative but if Helios is going live soon, adding support for a feature we will never use isn't useful for us

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in title: Frameworks/Bolts.framework: unknown error -1=ffffffffffffffff by Skander Bahri on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by iBug

if you want to play around in a private fork just for your personal fun and learning experience, that's a slightly different topic, but I don't think you have a chance of getting that merged into production even if it was top-notch quality technically

12:24 PM

Fine. Helio seems to be a great leap.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: Testo720 Trial Reviews by Testo720 on drupal.SE

tpu- by iBug

Can we make Smokey report total weight in chat?

@Magisch unified response model?

@iBug probably, though I think some serious work went into making sure the chat message is always below the length limit and so that might be the reason it's not there

we can't easily, actually

12:29 PM

there have been complaints over how the logic works so maybe review that

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: tophealthydiet.com/testo-ss/ by umdszpedm on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

MS calculates the total weight, not Smokey, and we don't have the MS report at the time we post the message

tpu- by iBug

@ArtOfCode oh yeah I think I remember now, it's only available when Metasmoke is done

@iBug install AIM, it will show it.

12:29 PM

AIM adds it.

user image

@iBug if we are still throwing around simple ideas for somebody who wants to contribute something, what happened to the "title begins and ends with slashes" idea?

I thought we had a PR or something but I can't find it

@tripleee I merged it

and some people were toying with SQL queries on SEDE to see if it would work and I think the conclusion was yes

@ArtOfCode I almost guessed, I'm just not finding it

was it called something odd?

#1399

12:31 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Alpha Force Testo : Increase Your Testosterone Level by alphaforcetesto on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

oh I just didn't search back far enough, the GitHub issues are apparently sorted by creation age, not recent activity

@ArtOfCode thanks

@SmokeDetector k

@Glorfindel also Halflife shows the total weight when it reports a post because by then, Metasmoke has processed it

in Charcoal Test, 2 mins ago, by PulseMonitor

halflife:2018-01-05 12:31:34,931:100661: Check post https://askubuntu.com/questions/992601 (682)

like that

!!/test /aqfhzimo, qmiogezofupzjm, kfnqeu, fxqefz/

k

> Title starts and ends with a forward slash
----------
Title - Position 1-43: /aqfhzimo, qmiogezofupzjm, kfnqeu, fxqefz/

@ArtOfCode we were talking about Helios, apparently this gist.github.com/AWegnerGitHub/…

@ArtOfCode but even if we can't have the weight maybe fix it so it doesn't drop the MS link if the reasons list and the title together are really long

^ as something for iBug maybe to look into

12:38 PM

@ArtOfCode In the "Work to do" section of the helios repo it says that we haven't yet got a unified response model for responses to querys onto helios

@tripleee :+1: MS link > user link.

@JF No, user link > MS link.

MS link > SmokeDetector link

I'll have enough time in late January and early February for big jobs.

@Mithrandir Why? You can see the user from MS.

12:42 PM

As of now I can only do trivial fixes for various reasons.

@Glorfindel :+1:

But it would probably be easier to remove a reason to make space. One of the userscripts puts all the reasons back IIRC.

@JF AIM did that (IIRC) but it's broken since MS API v2.0.

@JF yeah, that I think was the consensus previously too, it should not be hard at all to simply just not remove the MS link and instead maybe truncate the title if it's really long

user link is IMHO rarely useful but if it's e.g. wingding that's something you don't want to miss

@iBug I don't think this is a big challenge but sure, just throwing things around

@tripleee Yeah, for 8 years I've learnt programming all on my own by copying and modifying sample codes found online and observe the difference.

but even just creating a ticket to collect what seems to be at least a rough consensus would already be useful

12:47 PM

This is probably a good stuff to start with.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Insert data through ajax into mysql database by yllzon on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector v (self-deleted)

@SmokeDetector v

@iBug good luck then! (-:

tpu by iBug on Desktop software to convert YouTube files to MP3 [MS]

tpu by iBug on School management software on Ubuntu [MS]

12:51 PM

Why is this FP?

we should properly have a quick howto for running simple tests on Smoke Detector locally to help new contributors but it's not too hard

I was very frustrated when I first started but Art was very patient with me

@iBug Because it's the correct answer to that question. It's not a good answer but not abusive either.

@tripleee Review audits. Haha just joking.

@AJ properly SOCVR material I guess, was this reported there?

This should not be reported

12:53 PM

Then we should blame the question.

but isn't it the exact copy of already existing answer?

I am asking if it should be flagged or left as is.

Probably a VLQ is the maximum.

I'm taking a rest. See you tomorrow (CST).

@AJ if it plagiarism (is it? I didn't see the link) you should mod flag it.

@SurajRao It was this answer, while it doesn't add anything new it doesn't look like a direct copy of the other answer, although might have just come from a doc page: stackoverflow.com/a/48113125/1599751

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