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12:05 AM
Like I know there's a kind of bias with this but it's really hard to describe
Need to think about it more
But really potentially bad keyword shouldn't play into autoflagging at all anyways that was part of the point
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, offensive answer detected: Font Book says multiple copies are installed by dumbass on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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Seems like that post got autoflagged as spam, but is actually rude/abusive
 
12:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword with email in body: i was able to conceive by slim colvin on workplace.SE
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Are you kidding me? Does it always autoflag the reason you don't choose?
 
12:37 AM
Hm?
Also we don't care about autoflagging r/a it's the same kind of flag
 
12:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Visa to Belarus when traveling Belarus-Russia-Belarus by Morris on travel.SE
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Is it helpful to re-mention a post that should be deleted but for some reason has lived for an hour?
Or ping site mods? I'd be happy to get pinged about spam that had lasted an hour.
[tag:feature-request] Let mods sign up for pings for questions on their site mentioned here.
 
@thesecretmaster You already can: !!/notify 11540 cseducators.stackexchange.com
@thesecretmaster Yes, that can be helpful
@thesecretmaster MS always flags as spam
Feb 28 at 21:31, by Pops
It's... hard... to argue in favor of writing an algorithm and making a bot spend time calculating which of the two flag types to use when they are, in actuality, the exact same flag. It's not even Coke vs. Pepsi, it's Pepsi vs. a second bottle of Pepsi that's using a different but still valid Pepsi logo.
whoa @Glorfindel; you're blue! congrats!
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: find tangent through the origin. by user463390 on math.SE
naa- by NobodyNada
 
Does NAA auto-delete after a certain number of flags?
 
@thesecretmaster Nope
 
1:08 AM
Oh. Huh.
 
But red flags have severe penalties, so we don't just go tossing them on everything that's delete-worthy -- we use an appropriate flag for the job
 
Of course. They get -100 rep, a DV for each flag, and a q rate limit/ban, right?
 
@quartata Minimum number of reasons is almost never a differentiator
 
Wow, there are so many things listed as undeleted on metasmoke.
 
It's not perfect; quite a few deletions don't get noticed
 
1:25 AM
Looking at existing flag conditions across the system, there are only 11 (out of 189) enabled flag conditions where it's even possible for minimum reason count to play a role
Can someone sanity check me? Am I right to say that if (n)*100 < w, where n is the min reason count and w is the minimum weight, that's the only condition where it's possible for min reason count to play a role?
Yeah. Reasons can only have a maximum weight of 100, so the minimum number of reasons required to hit w is w/100. That's a better way to think of it
Yep. 11/189 where Weight / 100 < MinReasonCount
 
1:40 AM
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!!/location
 
@NobodyNada angussidney/EC2
 
@Andy Should be fixed now, hopefully
 
@ArtOfCode What should we do with API keys on a deleted account? Could see arguments for either cascading or for nulling
Going with nullify for now.
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 62f702b: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 62f702b: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
1:55 AM
Hi guys. I've just recently been elected as a mod and wanted to cancel my account with Smokey, but keep getting an error. I've tried multiple browsers, but no joy. Any advice?
 
@Monomeeth I literally fixed that ten seconds ago, but curious - why?
deploy pending, ~90s
 
@Undo Great! Um, why what? Why cancel my account?
 
Yep - second one we've had today, curious if there's a common reason
Should work now
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on caa2d82: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
Oh, in my case it's just because I'm now a Mod. I remember when I first found out about Smokey that the advice was anyone who's a mod shouldn't be part of anything that involves their account being involved with automation, but since I wasn't a mod it was okay.
 
2:01 AM
Oh, right. For what it's worth, the system already knows you're a mod and won't touch anything on AD now. metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging/conditions/231/edit
 
Smokey doesn't do anything for you on sites you are a mod on
 
@Andy Hmmm, okay, I'll hold off then and will look into it some more. Thanks for the heads up!
 
It's mostly moderators that maintain this thing, and we like to dogfood our stuff. There's some simple bulletproof logic to keep it from from touching mod sites. I'm 100% confident that it won't use my account to flag stuff on SO.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How to log in to BackTrack Linux? by موش بلعاني on unix.SE
 
Fun fact: The default 280/1/1 settings now have 99.99% accuracy. 23066/2
... which feels wrong.
Although all our false positives have been under that threshold since flagging started, so I suppose it's right
translate: 最后提示发生严重错误。之前安装时可能出错了导致重新安装时一直不成功,到最后一步时总会出现回滚操作,导致安装失败
 
!!/pull
 
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3:07 AM
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 996a6ab: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Android Drag and Drop Implementation by C12 CI3JIOj23j ioqw oa ds on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How to expose REST api microservices to the client? by TreeGateway on stackoverflow.com
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3:28 AM
@SmokeDetector I think it attempts to answer the question and it discloses the author's affiliation, but I'm hesitant to mark it as FP
 
!!/blacklist-keyword 2349055637784
 
@tripleee Blacklisted 2349055637784
 
3/3 over 9 months, all below auto
 
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3:35 AM
@thesecretmaster autoflagging always flags as spam, there were discussions about making it skip rude/abusive e.g. by way of artificially lower the autoflagging weight of those rules but I don't think anybody did anything about it
 
And we've decided that there isn't actually any point, anyway.
 
tpu- by tripleee on find tangent through the origin. [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: maleenhancementshop.info/zyntix/ by ritahalvorson on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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3:51 AM
@Undo I wanted to make it case sensitive but I wasn't able to; should I add a comment there?
also there seems to be a but with the "experimental" setting -- it should only ever be reported in Charcoal if only "potentially bad" rule(s) hit
maybe I'll simply create Github issues for both
 
Probably best.
Ultimately, there are just a lot of "Mohit Kumar"s in the world. Definitely need to figure out experimental routing, though
In related news, looks like we made it to a 1500000000 UNIX timestamp
5
And my ability to recognize them as timestamps is now temporarily broken
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Visa to Belarus when traveling Belarus-Russia-Belarus by Morris on travel.SE
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only notify experimental in Charcoal: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/949
 
4:26 AM
@Undo whoa, really?
 
$ date +%s
1500006390
 
I was working on metasmoke database dumps and couldn't figure out what the heck timestamp was appending to my filename
It didn't register as a timestamp
 
lol
 
too many zeroes. Mine was 1500000028
 
4:27 AM
That'll probably confuse me for a while too
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: www.supplementschoice.com/steelcut-testosterone/ by ebonyseymour on astronomy.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link following arrow in body, +3 more: yoursbetterhealthsolutions.com/kyto-trim/ by denishenson on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: fitnesstalkzone.com/vital-test-extreme/ by FlirosdNeor on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
tpu- by Yvette
 
!!/blacklist-keyword kyto\W?trim
 
@tripleee Blacklisted kyto\W?trim
 
4/4 over two years (sic)
 
4:39 AM
hah
 
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I don't see this message reported here?
 
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There's something odd about it not posting everything here
 
yeah, it's been like that all week
 
4:41 AM
Was it happening before the CO switch?
 
@Undo dunno when that was, but I was last here on Tuesday and it was already happening then
vaguely maybe already on Monday
 
I don't think I noticed anything last week
hard to say of course whether something should have been posted when it wasn't
 
Yeah, tempted to blame it there. Maybe DNS issues?
@tripleee if we really wanted to, it'd be possible to compare metasmoke records with chat
 
since the MS records are simply sequential numbers, it shouldn't even be very hard if you can get the chat transcript in a sensible format
 
4:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: www.ifirmationantiagingcream.com/activ-forte-fr/ by user246376 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
 
but the issue on Tuesday-ish was mainly that spam which should have triggered a detection didn't
 
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@tripleee Oh, that sounds like a different issue
 
!!/blacklist-keyword activ\W?forte
 
@tripleee Just dump post URLs from MS, crawl the transcripts back a few days and compare
 
4:45 AM
@tripleee Blacklisted activ\W?forte
 
5/5 over a year
 
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!!/blacklist-keyword ifirmationantiagingcream\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer, Bad keyword in answer, Pattern-matching website in body, and Bad keyword in body; use !!/blacklist-keyword-force if you really want to do that.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword-force ifirmationantiagingcream\.com
 
4:48 AM
@tripleee Blacklisted ifirmationantiagingcream\.com
 
89/89 over 2 years
 
Another side project I've been wanting to look at: Seems like we should be able to automatically identify domains (at least)
 
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@Undo yeah, I was surprised to find that they are not a thing in Metasmoke already
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What does "Heaven" mean here by Shikha on ell.SE
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4:53 AM
!!/blacklist-keyword proactol
 
@tripleee Blacklisted proactol
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: www.supplementschoice.com/steelcut-testosterone/ by user246378 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
 
7/7 happened to stumble across that when looking at the ifirmation hits, not a recent thing
 
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I have a prototype running in another window which tells me whether the domain in a spam message is already blacklisted now
 
4:55 AM
already paying back the investment; I would certainly have assumed that the ifirmation domain was already in the blacklist, but no
 
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!!/watch uphindikhabar\.in
 
@tripleee Added uphindikhabar\.in to watchlist
 
maybe that could be a separate component so that we would no longer have to manually update the watchlist all the time
perhaps with a separate database, even
so we would not pollute the watch list with the probably thousands of domains we want to keep track of
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Skin Novela Many have all the hair removed by user77524 on drupal.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: supplementforehealthy.com/neuro-boost-iq/ by Jorgepit on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Digestive Freedom PlusOne of the best ways by LaneFoster on drupal.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Steelcut Testosterone by NixonMollie on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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5:04 AM
Woops, I've been ratelimited
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Is AVTUR the same as JP-1 fuel? by Vladislav Yakov on aviation.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: India Block Boundaries by Varshini on gis.SE
tpu- by tripleee on Is AVTUR the same as JP-1 fuel? [MS]
 
!!/blacklist-keyword neftegazagent
 
@tripleee Blacklisted neftegazagent
 
6/6 over 3 months
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: NEURO BOOST IQ ---------------------------------------------====================== by TERRYTORY on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
 
5:14 AM
!!/blacklist-username Vladislav Yakov
 
@tripleee Blacklisted Vladislav Yakov
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Major Things That Travel Profitable Diet Supplements by Geraldiartiny on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Bent. w Steelcut Testosterone hout by naslepipro on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Ward Boundary of major city of india by Varshini on gis.SE
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going back and flagging the previous instance as spam, too
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Right Eating For Muscle Building by ArieUghes on graphicdesign.SE
 
!!/blacklist-website geoconcept\.in
 
@tripleee Blacklisted geoconcept\.in
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5:24 AM
!!/watch titan\W?xplode
 
@tripleee Added titan\W?xplode to watchlist
 
... oops
 
@MartinSleziak You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
5:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Which is the best proxy website? by limeproxy on mathoverflow.net
 
Thanks!
 
Rob
Looks more off-topic than spam
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: What are the benefits of Nuluxe Cream? by Nuluxe Cream on superuser.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0)
 
@Rob that's what I thought as well, but look at the user name -- probably a spam seed?
flagged as blatantly off-topic anyway
!!/pull
 
Rob
Hmm, yeah - especially since there is a proxy named 'limeproxies'
 
5:27 AM
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Rob
Too late to change my flag now, though, unfortunately
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: what are the functions of Neuro Boost IQ? by user246381 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Which is the best proxy website? by limeproxy on mathoverflow.net
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Which is the best proxy website? by limeproxy on mathoverflow.net
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Rob
@tripleee You were right :)
 
not the first time either -- looks like the domain was added by Glorfindel in response to a previous spam ... so I guess we will want to upgrade it to blacklisted
*added to the watchlist I mean
!!/blacklist-website limeproxies\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted limeproxies\.com
 
5:31 AM
2/2 over one day
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What port should I open to allow remote desktop? by Ronnie Overby on serverfault.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: Ward Boundary of major city of india by Varshini on gis.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in link text in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in title: FIFA18coins.com is the best website to buy FIFA 18 coins from? by FIFA 18 coins on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Neuro Boost IQ psychological supplement by varun on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
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!!/watch healthchatworld\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/watch-force if you really want to do that.
 
5/5 over 6 days, all above auto
FSDC feedback seems not to work properly ...?
@SmokeDetector k
 
5:41 AM
as in, reliably
 
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!!/watch fifa18coins\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer, Bad keyword in answer, Bad keyword in body, and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/watch-force if you really want to do that.
 
2/2 over 5 months
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Tried And Tested Skin Firming Tips by cardenasanton on drupal.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
5:48 AM
!!/blacklist-website slimbodyketone\.co\.uk
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer, Bad keyword in answer, Bad keyword in body, and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/blacklist-website-force if you really want to do that.
 
22/22 over two years, not actually below auto recently enough to warrant a blacklisting but getting there soonish I imagine
 
6:02 AM
tpu- by Glorfindel on Which is the best proxy website? [MS]
 
thx @NobodyNada
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Alpha Max Male Enhancement by user246386 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: getmysupplement.com/zyntix/ by Wessin23 on drupal.SE
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fp- by tripleee
 
Rob
@SmokeDetector why
 
Body - Position 1322-1485: ======</p>

<p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/scBvu.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Error when trying to use curl https://www.npmjs.com/install.sh | sh</a></p>
 
more pertinently, why does this get reported 10 hours after it was closed?
ah, edited!
 
Rob
6:14 AM
Why was it not caught the first time? The edit didn't introduce the text that was caught
 
@Rob the previous edit did, I think -- it was edited twice recently
 
Rob
9 hours ago was the one before
Perhaps SD was restarting at the time
 
@Rob oh right
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: www.supplementoffers.org/neuro-boost-iq/ by calinydri on workplace.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
6:20 AM
tpu- by Glorfindel on Which is the best proxy website? [MS]
 
@SmokeDetector ... again?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, +1 more: Mengenix Testo Rampage Reviews by user364558 on meta.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
!!/blacklist-website healtsuppdiet\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/blacklist-website-force if you really want to do that.
 
!!/blacklist-website-force healthsuppdiet\.com
 
6:24 AM
@tripleee Blacklisted healthsuppdiet\.com
 
23/23, 3 months since below auto
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: supplementschoice.com/steelcut-testosterone/ by arijkulusisa on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: hey sent me to AmaBella Allure.? by bolnashots on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
tpu- by tripleee
 
@Undo I'd nullify. Stops someone rage quitting and breaking a major app. Alternatively, reassign to System.
 
6:43 AM
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 6fd0669: The Travis CI build passed
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Steelcut Testosterone effective to start by delontenome on askubuntu.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0 @ThomasWard)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: carehealthportal by carehealthportal on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
tpu- by tripleee
 
!!/test carehealthportal.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
!!/watch carehealthportal\.com
 
@AshishAhuja Added carehealthportal\.com to watchlist
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Biocilium - Conditions dried out hair by Ronadbrown on graphicdesign.SE
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