Charcoal HQ

SmokeDetector

11:00

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: Whatsapp share button for mobile friendly blogspot template by help adya on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Floern

angussidney

@Henders looks like that search is catching all flag logs, including those from FIRE, not only autoflagged logs. For instance, this post has one invalidated tpu- feedback from FIRE, which means it would have been flagged via MS, creating a flag log (cc @Undo)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, non-Latin link in answer: Is there a content element in HTML5? by สูตรบาคาร่า on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title: deleted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx by Andreas on physics.SE

angussidney

@SmokeDetector v

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Cerbrus on Is there a content element in HTML5? [MS]

angussidney

@SmokeDetector k

J F

11:07

@Cerbrus github.com/Charcoal-SE/userscripts/issues/81

Cerbrus

@JF Thanks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Wrinkle Treatment Eye Evaluatio by oolespina on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Body Building - 10 Tips To Obtain A Better Body by sophisilvia on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by Floern

J F

@Cerbrus If you wanted to learn React, it would make handling the case in the issue really simple.

SmokeDetector

11:22

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: You must have never imagined by gossilores on superuser.com

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Should I factor margin improvements into the growth rate for net worth? If so, how? by bones_mccoy on money.SE

fp feedback on autoflagged post: Should I factor margin improvements into the growth rate for net worth? If so, how?

fp- by angussidney

Floern

@SmokeDetector f

tripleee

@SmokeDetector how did that trigger autoflagging?

angussidney

sd 2- why

SmokeDetector

1. [:37247118] <skipped>
2. [:37247117] <skipped>
3. [:37247105] Title - Position 62-71: net worth
Body - Position 402-411: net worth, Position 532-541: net worth, Position 794-803: net worth, Position 1017-1026: net worth

angussidney

Weight 192

Enough for the people with a min flag weight of 185

tripleee

11:28

@angussidney so these guys all had a flagging threshold significantly below the recommended 280 on a site which is somewhat prone to false positives

angussidney

Yeah

tripleee

the poor guy got -4 immediately, we should try to get that cleaned up ASAP

angussidney

@Mithrandir @Jonaz @quartata you might want to redact flags on that last post

Mithrandir

'tis what I was doing :)

@tripleee yes, I really need to change my threshold

angussidney

I assume the Jonaz person is this guy, @Mith could you use your super diamond powers and do the superping?

tripleee

11:31

last seen 4 hours ago

angussidney

But we need the Chat ID IIRC

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Mithrandir, quartata, JonasCz.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Tumblr Theme photos - how to stop linking to larger image and link to permalink by Phil on stackoverflow.com

angussidney

@Mithrandir I have mine set up for 190(?) on the main spam sites, and 280 on the rest

Mithrandir

@JonasCz - please retract your autoflag on the autoflagged post above, it's not spam. Thanks.

angussidney

11:33

You might want to point to the exact post, because Smokey interrupted you

tripleee

@angussidney ^ @Mithrandir

Cerbrus

@JF Maybe for a FIRE re-write :P

I'm handling something similar for the "edited" icon. Will probably tie in there somewhere.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer, blacklisted user: Creating a class object in c++ by Hass on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

naa- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to get client to client login's log on domain server by R.O.O.T on security.SE

fp- by Glorfindel

Henders

@angussidney Not sure I follow. How can FIRE make flag logs?

angussidney

For auditing purposes, MS makes a flag log (a record in the DB) every time it casts a flag via the SE API, whether that flag was automatic or triggered via a human (i.e. FIRE)

When you press the tpu- button on FIRE, it sends a request to MS which is actually what does the flagging for you, not FIRE

Jan Dvorak

11:46

FIRE can cast flags through metasmoke

angussidney

Ninja'd :)

@art what I said is correct, yes?

Henders

Ah, right I'm with you now

Thanks :)

ArtOfCode

Yeah, that's right

Thanks, mobile

angussidney

Autocorrect: always an embarrasment when you're ~~hanging around with your friends~~ using proramming terms and just want to be left alone, but never there when you actually need it

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.health2facts.org/jolique-cream/ by paffsaco on graphicdesign.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Can location.pathname lead to XSS? by rekkit on security.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel on http://www.health2facts.org/jolique-cream/ [MS]

Thomas Ward

11:53

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard teward / Midnight Eclipse

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev df4c178 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of virility\Wex by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Midnight Eclipse)

Thomas Ward

fine ya ninnys, i'm removing the damned space from Midnight's slashes

now get off my case on that, mmkay?

Ferrybig

@Glorfindel Why did you vote that as tpu? It is an example of a valid path that can trigger the bug asked? It only missed a space

Thomas Ward

(really not feeling well today - not enough sleep, so worse than yesterday)

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 11556.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 8fbe637 (angussidney: Merge pull request #718 from tripleee/revert-hairlosspropecia-com) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

angussidney

11:56

@ThomasWard hopefully you can find the time to doze off at some point during the day

Thomas Ward

@angussidney work work work all day with massive coffee quantities at my desk

(I'm bringing my keurig to work heh)

Glorfindel

@Ferrybig hmm ... could be, but I'd expect some accompanying text if that were the case. Anyway, the post is gone now.

Jan Dvorak

Can someone explain to me why 🕴 is in Unicode?

Cerbrus

> A man wearing a suit, hovering above the ground with a shadow displayed beneath him. Generally shown wearing a fedora or similar style of hat.

This character was originally introduced into the Webdings font as an “exclamation mark in the style of the rude boy logo found on records by The Specials". The levitating man is known as Walt Jabsco.

> (source)

Jan Dvorak

But why?

Cerbrus

12:06

Dunno

tripleee

quick googling turns up newsweek.com/2016/05/06/…

Jan Dvorak

Ah, thanks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: how to send email from localhost with php CodeIgniter by Rashmy on stackoverflow.com

fp- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Chinese character in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword with email in body, messaging number in body, messaging number in title, +3 more: 美国#CIT毕业证/成绩单更改：Q微信790042814办理加州理工学院学位证、代办CIT真实学历认证、录取通知书、雅思托福成绩单、在读证明Californi‌a Institute of Technology by yyuttuou01 on travel.SE

tpu- by tripleee

Mithrandir

AIM is now covering what site it was...

Thomas Ward

@SmokeDetector Except on a chinese language site, 99.999% of chinese messages are Spam, according to a chinese friend of mine.

tripleee

12:16

@ThomasWard that's a very scientific-looking number. My estimate based on the messages we see here would be around 97-98% but maybe I don't see all the spam?

Thomas Ward

@tripleee My estimate is based on the fifty thousand spam messages that contained chinese text, caught by AmavisD and SpamAssassin on my mail server, plus what we observed here.

(100% spam detection accuracy on AmavisD + SpamAssassin with chinese-text messages)

but also

i asked my chinese friend whether these're spam or not and he said "It's almost always spam"

there's like two exceptions heh

user165474

I agree; except on Chinese sites, things in Chinese are always spam except in that like one case when the user had a legit question but somehow didn't realize that it's an English site heh

tripleee

@ThomasWard oh but you are talking email spam, that's a different can of worms

depends on your clientele obviously, a university with Chinese expat students would get a fair amount of legit Chinese email

Mithrandir

Legit Chinese spam. LOL.

user165474

"legit spam"... um hehe

SmokeDetector

12:27

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer: Industrializing Arduino - 24V io? (Electronics) by guest1 on arduino.SE

naa- by Mithrandir

tpu- by Glorfindel

user165474

Who marked as spam?

Glorfindel

I marked as rude/abusive.

tripleee

@Glorfindel me too

user165474

Ah. Yes, that would make sense too.

user165474

Oh wait r/a shows as spam on FIRE.

SmokeDetector

12:32

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, +3 more: maleenhancementshop.info/clemix/ by Clemix on drupal.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

Magisch

@HyperNeutrino or when someone asks how to handle chinese characters in code

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: The "XamlCTask" task failed unexpectedly on visual studio for xamarin by cybrtitan on stackoverflow.com

fp- by Mithrandir

user165474

sd - fp

SmokeDetector

1. [:37248023] <skipped>
2. [:37248021] Registered answer as false positive.

user165474

@Magisch That as well. True.

user165474

12:39

Would you say that the most recent report is a NAA?

user165474

It doesn't really answer the question well, but it's not exactly 0% helpful.

Magisch

ish

not sure if I'd flag that

could be construed as a partial answer

user165474

Yeah. I might add a comment. Probably won't flag though.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: booty pop cream by Ittle1 on drupal.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: How to Consume the Pills? by Foris tall on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

naa- by tripleee on The "XamlCTask" task failed unexpectedly on visual studio for xamarin [MS]

Magisch

@ArtOfCode Should I open an issue regarding the global license thing?

So people can chime in about which one to use n stuff

Henders

13:02

@angussidney Shame it didn't auto correct proramming for you ;)

tripleee

@Henders that's exactly it

Jan Dvorak

Maybe he did mean pro-ramming? As in, running into stuff with your head on a professional level?

Henders

@JanDvorak Ah, you mean like a sheep might do to other sheep? :P

Jan Dvorak

... or humans :-D

Henders

True

user165474

13:11

that looks... painful

user165474

I like how the camera person doesn't say anything about it.

Andy

@Magisch Yes.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How do I stop google featured snippets mixing my content up with another website? by projectmonkey on webmasters.SE

fp- by Mithrandir

user165474

sd - fp-

user165474

It's not a good question though.

Magisch

13:31

@Andy Off topic, what is your opinion on the matter?

As someone whose graphs would be affected

Andy

I'm really not sure what the issue is you're talking about, I was just saying that if a discussion needs to take place, a github issue is a good idea since an important conversation can get lost in this room

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Retrieve private mode pictures from Samsung device after factory reset by HansBrown on android.SE

user165474

sd fp-

CalvT

@SmokeDetector is that potentially no disclosure?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Reduce out your nails avoid manicures by ttyr on stackoverflow.com

Magisch

13:42

@Andy I was proposing licensing everything related to MS data and data aggregation under one license so everyone can use the data and any analytics, graphs and models based on it freely

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Henders

user165474

sd - tpu-

SmokeDetector

13:56

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: Wired IoT sensor network with PoE? by James on arduino.SE

user165474

sd spam

Glorfindel

I'm not sure about that one. It could be spam, it could be just an enthusiastic user who's not affiliated.

Jan Dvorak

it does smell though

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link following arrow in body: How can i pick the list in the dropdown from this given code? by hemant on stackoverflow.com

CalvT

@Glorfindel same. Don't think @HyperNeutrino has an account there so no spam flag

SmokeDetector

14:01

fp- by CalvT

Andy

@Magisch What data specifically? Anything from SE already needs to be CC licensed.

user165474

Hi. I now do so there is.

user165474

sd - fp-

Magisch

@Andy One example would be the graphs you frequently make using MS database data

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What functions does WordPress use for filtering / sanitizing comments? by Aliza Petar on wordpress.SE

Magisch

14:03

Which is made using data SD collects and not strictly with the SE post data

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

like feedback, blacklists etc

user165474

sd - tpu-

Andy

Ah. I understand now. Yeah, put an issue on Github so that it can be easily tracked and commented on by others not in here right now.

CalvT

Btw, is anyone using my autocomments jsonp? If so, I've just updated the no disclosure text a bit

user165474

14:06

I'm using it. It's quite convenient. I've also added one to comment on a PPCG question that's actually an SO question.

CalvT

Ok. Well the no disclosure comment should update shortly to:

> Please note if you want to promote your own product/blog you must disclose your affiliation in the answer, otherwise your answer may be flagged as spam. If you are not affiliated with the site, I recommend you mention it to prevent this. Please read How to not be a spammer

user165474

Ah, okay, I see. Once you update it I'll update the userscript. :)

CalvT

Oh you aren't using the remote source?

Magisch

@Andy github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/720

user165474

Nope.

CalvT

14:09

That's why I set it up - I update my hosted version, then it updates automatically on all my sites without me having to do anything

user165474

Ah, I see.

user165474

How can I set it up?

CalvT

Open the comment dialog, and down the bottom you will see "remote". Click on it, then paste the url in, tick "auto-get", then save.

user165474

Okay. Thanks!

CalvT

Note that it will potentially remove your PPCG custom one

user165474

14:16

Alright. I'll copy that down first. Thanks for the heads up

CalvT

If you add it on PPCG that is - the url is per site

user165474

Oh. Okay.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: deletedeletedeletedeletedeletedeletedeletedelete by Stefano Borini on superuser.com

fp- by Riker

Riker

whoops

no

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on deletedeletedeletedeletedeletedeletedeletedelete.

Glorfindel

14:17

sd - v

SmokeDetector

1. [:37250218] <skipped>
2. [:37250214] That message is not a report.

user165474

sd 3- v

user165474

sd 5- v-

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector v

JonasCz

@Mithrandir Done - is the ability to retract spam flags a new thing ? I don't remember having the option to do that in the past.

Henders

14:19

@HyperNeutrino It might be easier to give your feedback as a reply

user165474

Yeah. I tried using sd but I got ninja'd :(

Glorfindel

@JonasCz it's been possible for ±6 months now.

Henders

Far less counting involved :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: Zyacin @ healthpowerzone.com/zyacin/ by shanamumaw on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by CalvT

user165474

sd - tpu-

user165474

14:21

Actually it might be easier to use FIRE. :P

Riker

^

user165474

It also autoflags that way.

user165474

Also, when are r/a autoflags going to be implemented?

Riker

6-8 weeks

user165474

Ah. Thanks!

CalvT

14:24

I take it you haven't met 6-8 weeks yet @HyperNeutrino :D

Henders

^ :P

CalvT

6-8 weeks = sometime in the future

user165474

lol

ArtOfCode

"never" would be more accurate

user165474

1 week -> 1 year
2 weeks -> possibly sometime before you die
3 weeks -> if I feel like it ever
4 weeks -> probably not
5+ weeks -> never

ArtOfCode

14:34

We've had this discussion fifty times. Flag R/A manually if you want, but given that the two flags are identical adding them to autoflagging isn't worth the effort

user165474

Ah, I see. Alright.

user165474

So wait spamflagging and r/aflagging have no difference?

Jan Dvorak

It is in the fire dialog...

ArtOfCode

Nope

Mithrandir

489

A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: 6 to 8 Weeks Originator: Jeff Atwood First Heard: May 13th, 2008 Cultural Height: In about 6 to 8 weeks Definition: The time estimate given "off the top of my head" when the Stack Overflow team has only a vague idea of how long a task will take because they have little-to-no formal sche...

user165474

14:35

spam and r/a both translate to tpu-

Jan Dvorak

Adding it shouldn't be hard, and it avoids endless discussions (with me and with confused mods)

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak the first half of that sentence is where your argument falls down

Jan Dvorak

Why is it harder than spam flags?

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak because we'd have to decide when to use each one

CalvT

@QPaysTaxes Because some mods don't realise they are the same flag

Jan Dvorak

14:38

@ArtOfCode Smokey always uses Spam, Fire can use either

I'm smarter than the bot...

user165474

But what if you are the bot?

ArtOfCode

Fire can do what it likes with the SE API, but adding an API route to metasmoke just for that ain't worth it

Jan Dvorak

Why not?

Mithrandir

@QPaysTaxes it's not like there's a training course

Wouldn't it make more sense to always flag as R/A?

Jan Dvorak

Let's just say I'm not flagging r/a anymore, and I won't until that button in FIRE works

Mithrandir

14:41

Spam is r/a anyway, and that would solve things like confused mods.

Jan Dvorak

+1

user165474

Wait spam does equal r/a???

Mithrandir

I mean spam qualifies for a r/a flag.

Anonymous

R/A is the more general flag. Spam is R/A, but not all R/A posts are spam.

user165474

Oh okay.

CalvT

14:44

@HyperNeutrino spam and rude/abusive flags are basically the same, just differ in name only - as Pops says, it's not even Coke vs Pepsi, it's Pepsi vs Pepsi with a different sticker

Jan Dvorak

But, why if MS can flag R/A why not let us do both?

user165474

Haha. :P Okay, makes sense.

Riker

@CalvT yes but this pepsi doesn't calm people/users down when you hand it to them

CalvT

Pops is a SE dev fyi

user165474

Ah. Okay.

CalvT

14:45

@Riker it's like pouring pepsi onto mentos

Jan Dvorak

That doesn't mean that every mod knows what Pops said here

CalvT

@JanDvorak that's pretty clear unfortunately - a bunch of them haven't even read Undo's meta post

Mithrandir

If you ever get a declined spam flag on r/a stuff, raise it on the specific meta with the appropriate links.

Jan Dvorak

roger

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak MS currently can't flag R/A

Andy

14:46

@CalvT There is a difference. Spam posts can be used as audits. Rude/Abusive can not

Jan Dvorak

so, we shall confuse mods everywhere because it's too much work not to, and they ought to read meta anyways?

CalvT

Might be a good idea to make a template on GH or something? To make sure if someone posts a meta post, they include the right stuff?

Andy

There was a change to a community wiki post very recently that mentions this, but I can't find it right now.

Anonymous

I'm all for making mods read meta more

CalvT

@Andy ah didn't know, thanks. Guess that's a SO thing only though

Jan Dvorak

14:47

@Mego agreed, but how?

Riker

there's already a notification for every meta question posted

Anonymous

@JanDvorak Links seem to work well

Andy

@CalvT According to what I see in TL it's network wide, but I'm hunting for the cwiki to confirm that.

Jan Dvorak

I'd rather not have to post to metas. I'm bad at this.

Mithrandir

@Andy audits? Nope

ArtOfCode

14:49

So let someone else do it

CalvT

@JanDvorak so what do you think about having a template?

Mithrandir

57

Q: Don't use spam post as audits in the low quality review queue

Spam posts, without proper context, especially those tricky ones, can be extremely difficult to assess; and even when you successfully identify it as "spam" the review queue doesn't allow you to flag it as such, hence there isn't a correct action in the Low Quality Review Queue when seeing spam o...

Andy

I stand corrected. There is no difference between the two:

> The system continues to offer both options partially as a historical holdover and partially as a UX affordance, to help fit different mental models of potential problem situations. In the past, spam flags would feed into spam filters while rude or abusive flags wouldn't, but this is no longer the case.

193

A: What are the “spam” and “rude or abusive” (offensive) flags, and how do they work?

What makes something spam and when should I flag it? A post should be marked as spam ONLY when it contains an unsolicited advertisement. It should NOT be marked as spam when: The answer contains no useful information, such as an answer that says “I don't care about your problem”. Flag an answ...

Jan Dvorak

@CalvT I'm all for having tepmplates, and for someone else than me using them.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Restore hidden pictures Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom by HansBrown on stackoverflow.com

Glorfindel

14:56

He posted the same link on Android SE ...

The post has been self-deleted (but the Android one still remains).

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How to install Apache Giraph in windows? by Shehab on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Floern

SmokeDetector

15:36

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): Benefits of tea in weight loss by Tejasri Mantha on health.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): How do i lose fat and gain muscle at the same time? by Tejasri Mantha on health.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: I already have LinkedIn, DeviantArt, Dribbble, and Behance. Do I need a personal website? by Andrew on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by ArtOfCode

tpu- by ArtOfCode on How do i lose fat and gain muscle at the same time? [MS]

tpu- by ArtOfCode on Benefits of tea in weight loss [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: egardless, it is constantly wonderful to audit by Ausand on superuser.com

tpu- by Henders

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The way that these prompt by Givy heret on drupal.SE

tpu- by Henders

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to use JBossTS (Narayana) with Spring Data JPA by Amos Feng on stackoverflow.com

quartata

16:01

@angussidney too late :/

I was asleep

I'm looking into writing a bot that can retract flags on my behalf though. Even though it's not available via the API a few screenscrapes a day shouldn't trigger ratelimiting

Jan Dvorak

Such functionality should be integrated into MS

quartata

really the bigger problem is that keywords on that should probably be disabled on money SE

at least for questions

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak again, what justifies the effort? Doing that in MS is significant effort.

quartata

Retracting flags?

ArtOfCode

yeah

quartata

16:06

It's a big deal

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode declined flags are a big justification

ArtOfCode

also it's not actually possible

quartata

It allows us to be a lot more aggressive with autoflagging

ArtOfCode

we don't have user cookies

quartata

Of course. I'm not saying it's something that MS can do currently

ArtOfCode

16:07

or ever, for that matter

Jan Dvorak

What if we only autoflag after the first manual flag...

ArtOfCode

we do not now, nor will ever, have user cookies

quartata

except for when they add it to the API after we bug Pops enough

but that's not the point

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Application to create responsive email templates? by Vladimir Kudinov on stackoverflow.com

quartata

this was something that I was going to write to run locally

ArtOfCode

16:07

@JanDvorak we've discussed this one fifty times as well. Our system is accurate enough that we don't need to.

quartata

it would have my cookies

ArtOfCode

@quartata we still won't have user cookies

Jan Dvorak

so, what are the cons of waiting for the first manual flag?

quartata

Why would we need them

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak Significant increase in TTD

SmokeDetector

16:08

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Should the hammer function "feel" different from normal drilling function on a hammer drill? by Sumi Akter on diy.SE

tpu- by CalvT

ArtOfCode

Moderate amount of development effort required

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode why?

ArtOfCode

Both MS developers currently have jobs

Jan Dvorak

Why should it increase time to deletion?

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak Point, I guess TTD won't be affected. Okay, significant increase in time to nuke from front page.

The bigger question, though, is why should we, when we have a system this accurate?

Jan Dvorak

16:10

Doesn't it take four flags to nuke from the front page?

ArtOfCode

three

Jan Dvorak

Point taken then

not that big of a delay IMO, though

user165474

16:26

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Running since 11:54:29 UTC (272 minutes)

SmokeDetector

16:49

API quota rolled over with 8111 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

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user165474

!!/apiquota

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino The current API quota remaining is 19969.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: To what extent is suicide legal in the U.S. and in individual states? by user11872 on law.SE

user165474

sd tpu-

user165474

17:18

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Running since 11:54:29 UTC (324 minutes)

user165474

Why is it so quiet?

user165474

Hm.

ArtOfCode

It often is

Mithrandir

Spam hour is over

user165474

17:19

Ah. I see.

CalvT

I told a guy not to vandalise his post, and he came back with this:

@calvt so what's the point of a delete button if I can't delete anything? — Stefano Borini 49 mins ago

What should I reply?

Kinda feel like just leaving this particular one, but would like to know for the future

Mithrandir

Deletion and vandalism are not the same.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How to handle invalid SSL certificates with Apache HttpClient? by Trinea on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by QPaysTaxes

user165474

sd - spam-

SmokeDetector

17:37

[ userscripts ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/pr success on d833a67: The Travis CI build passed

[ userscripts ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 906a278: The Travis CI build passed

[ userscripts ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push failure on e5cc20e: The Travis CI build failed

user165474

What does !!/pull do?

NobodyNada

@HyperNeutrino pulls the latest code from GitHub

Hello!

user165474

@NobodyNada So does it restart Smokey if a push has been made?

CalvT

o/

user165474

\o

NobodyNada

17:44

@HyperNeutrino Yep

user165474

Cool.

SmokeDetector

17:54

Restart: API quota is 19339.

ArtOfCode

@HyperNeutrino not automatically

technically, it stops smokey, runs git pull origin deploy, and starts smokey again

user165474

Oh, okay. Thanks.

SmokeDetector

[ userscripts ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on a155f92: The Travis CI build passed

user165474

!!/pull

user165474

no? hm.

SmokeDetector

17:59

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 8fbe637 (angussidney: Merge pull request #718 from tripleee/revert-hairlosspropecia-com) (running on teward/Midnight Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 19281.

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