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1:04 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Full-Watch! The Intern Online Free by irfan firdaus on superuser.com
 
sd k
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@sandwich I'm getting 3 google notifications for every sd post using the google extension for spam notification. Only started today.
 
@ArtOfCode Yes.
 
1:11 PM
Sweet. Can you run me through how you think the system works?
Report comes in, what do you do?
 
Well, basically if the post is spam, I use sd k, if not sd f.
sd n if it's an answer which should be flagged as NAA.
 
Yep. If it's self vandalism?
 
Well, the edit should be rolled back.
 
And where do you want privs?
You can be privileged to feed back to SmokeDetector in here, in SOCVR, or in Tavern, it's up to you
 
59 mins ago, by sandwich
@Gothdo Done ^
 
1:16 PM
@ArtOfCode I'm privileged in tavern yes?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to search for Twitter lists? by a deleted user on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
sandwich already gave me privileges.
 
sd n
 
@Gothdo oh, I missed that :)
 
@SmokeDetector n
 
1:18 PM
Ah yeah, so I see
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, offensive body detected: Mikhail variable keeps sending a CSGO skin into DDOS by Leo Chashchin on stackoverflow.com
 
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Part of speech for "please" followed by a verb by Dunsanist on english.stackexchange.com
 
sd tp-
 
@ArtOfCode, thanks for pinging the EE mod I mentioned yesterday in TL, I noticed he's gone through quite a few answers and they now have the spam banner. As mentioned he does a great job in general and was my #1 vote in the election so good to get it sorted relatively privately.
 
1:33 PM
You could've used an example without the profanity, we are flagged to profanity and it creates work for us, can you please change your example to clean it up? — Yvette 3 mins ago
@Yvette this is clearly mention and not use. I was actually about to mark it as a false positive for smokey.
ELU allows profanity as long as it is used to illustrate a grammatical point and not directed at anyone.
Granted, it wasn't absolutely necessary here, but it's still within the rules.
Kit deleted the answer since it was repeating information anyway, so never mind.
 
@terdon I honestly thought it was a gratuitous use of profanity in the circumstances. It was uncalled for. There has to be a limit and a standard at some point. If the question involved profanity I could understand it, but it had nothing to do with it. I did not black list the user and I stand by my view. Sorry.
 
@Yvette Hey, no worries, I was just letting you know that the mention of profanity is allowed on ELU. Not its use, mind you, but its mention. I quite agree that it wasn't necessary in that particular instance, but I wanted to point out that it was also not explicitly against the site's rules. That's all.
 
@terdon no worries and I totally get that. :D
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How do I extract a small object from a vacuum cleaner bag? by mike on lifehacks.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
1:46 PM
I think there is an answer there, but also a spammy link by a one day user, unregistered.
 
Text is copied from another site with a spam link added. — PeterJ 41 secs ago
I don't think this answer has any value.
 
@Gothdo ah good spotting
 
2:00 PM
@Yvette It's also probably best to avoid "we are alerted to <> and it creates work for us" statements -- that doesn't explain why the behavior is bad, etc. ;)
 
@hichris123 yes I think that's a good idea. It is drawing unnecessary attention to the room.
 
@TIPS Heh
Question how much it would be used.
 
@Undo I personally would only use that.
@Magisch also promises he would usually use it. Right @Magisch?
 
That... seems like more of joke functionality than actual functionality...
 
2:18 PM
Restart: API quota is 5374.
 
@hichris123 hence we must have it
 
night
 
Night
 
Night and sleep well Yvette
 
Attempted API call to stackoverflow.com but there are no posts to fetch.
 
2:29 PM
Realtime sent two SO posts at the exact same second.
 
Is that what's been causing the "no posts to fetch"?
 
Probably.
Also, @Undo: I tried this locally and it works, can we add gist.github.com/hichris1234/ce3610c79b5034eb4f9dd4203b73468d in and see what happens?
 
@hichris123 No reason not to
 
That sounds like approval.
 
@Undo Did you dump the stack traces of the threads already?
 
2:33 PM
no
 
We had another restart duo to threads today
 
You've got 232G to play with
 
@Undo Hrm, this currently rewrites the file each time. Should it just append to the file?
 
@hichris123 Might as well, put a good unique delimiter so I can jump to them in vim.
 
@Undo Well, currently it's *** STACKTRACE - START *** and *** STACKTRACE - END ***.
 
2:36 PM
Should work :P
 
Aren't people on SO great. :P
 
Especially if you're Nissan
 
Oh, yeah, that. :P
!!/pull
 
!!/push
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4ef2ad4 (hichris1234: Add in thread logging code) (running on Raspberry Pi)
Restart: API quota is 5306.
 
2:40 PM
Why it doesn't pull automatically?
 
long story :P
 
Because that keeps breaking
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Is it possible to calculate sine by hand? by Abebe misganaw on math.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
Is there any way I can see my flagging history for all SE sites?
 
Nope
 
2:50 PM
1. Write a meta.SE feature-request about it.
2. Get it closed as something related.
3. Wait for 6-8 months.
4. ???
 
@TIPS I think you meant 6-8 weeks.
 
No, 6-8 months.
If you're lucky, actually.
 
So, wait 6-8 months for what exactly?
 
For three question marks. D'oh
 
Is there an easy way to see helpful flag count for all sites?
 
2:53 PM
No
 
oy
 
2:57 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: What is the maximum pressure that JB Weld can withstand? by Locktight777 on chemistry.stackexchange.com (@TIPS)
 
It's spam, just google "QUIKSTEEL".
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
Whenever you have a moment @Undo, can you either look at the stacktrace.txt file & see if there's anything weird, or put it in a gist?
 
holy crap, it's 124348 lines
 
3:01 PM
:o
 
Well, it's going to be at least 100 lines per question it sees in the realtime feed...
 
@Undo xkcd.com/208
 
... yeah, maybe I shoulda thought of that. :P
 
Okay, gonna dump the last trace into a gist
 
Is one-boxing allowed in this room?
 
3:03 PM
Sure.
 
We're not SOCVR
 
@Gothdo Why did that not one-box?
 
@TIPS Cheats.
 
@Undo I actually was going to say those exact words. :P
 
I used U+200B.
 
3:03 PM
Whitespace, I see.
Non-break space, oh.
Well you're a lightweight.
 
Okay, here's the whole thing. Apparently GitHub can handle 6MB gists
 
Is SOCVR the only room that doesn't allow one-boxing?
 
There are some rooms with a very specific topic, like talking to a site's mod. I imagine comics would be out of place there.
 
@Gothdo The only room that I regular.
 
@Undo On the other hand, Chrome doesn't like it too much...
 
3:07 PM
(download linked file or curl it or something)
 
@TIPS Is "regular" a verb?
 
@Gothdo You can verbify almost anything in English if no pedants are around and you're not writing something important.
 
@Undo Nothing looks too out of place there. The last trace just shows threads for ChatExchange, one for DeletionWatcher, a couple for bodyfetcher....
 
@hichris123 I can see it in Chrome on Chrome OS; it's pretty slow but then again, Chromebook's CPU.
 
@sandwich It grinds the tab to a halt on my Macbook Pro
 
3:09 PM
Yeah, it's slow even on fast computers.
 
@TIPS Well, I guess you're out of luck, because I am a pedant.
 
@Gothdo Even if pedants are around, one with little understanding of English linguistics wouldn't frown in casual talk.
 
In the stacktrace, I can see many times the line File: "/media/sda2/SmokeDetector/excepthook.py", line 46, in run_with_except_hook
 
that's because everything runs under the exception hook
 
yeah, that.
 
3:11 PM
(just passed the stacktrace thru a pipeline of sort | uniq -c | sort -h so I could see what was the most used line)
 
@Ferrybig huh, that's clever
 
Oh, WTF? Someone at corporate blocked gist.github, but I can still access github itself.
Excuse me, I have to go taser someone
4
 
I believe the verb is "tase".
 
@Andy lol, that's awesome mind-boggleingly stupid
@sandwich But if you go to someone and say "I'm gonna tase you", they have to think about it for a few seconds. If you saw "I'm gonna taser you", the desired effect sets in immediately.
 
@Undo I think "don't tase me, bro" made the verb instantly recognizable.
 
3:15 PM
True
 
Just realised.... There are multiple stack traces in the same file
 
I don't have a big enough table to flip.
> The URL is listed in categories "File Storage/Sharing" which are not allowed by the Corporate Internet Access Policy.
They weren't able to explain the subtle difference between github.com and gist.github.com to me
 
@Ferrybig Oh, yep. Like a lot of them. :P
 
We need to wait until smokey crashes again, so we have the dump from that time
 
@Andy ... maybe you need to start searching...
 
3:20 PM
@hichris123 I have been. I've been picky though and that makes it hard to find a job.
Ironically, I did interview with Github in February. Sounded really interesting too. No dice there
 
@Andy (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┻
 
@Andy Are you mostly searching for remote jobs or are you considering moving too?
 
@Ferrybig JUST RIGHT i.imgur.com/8MhZ3kz.png
 
@hichris123 I'd really like remote. The spouse has a job that can't be done remotely and likes it, so if we move we'd have to find two jobs instead of one. If I can get a remote one, then we can move when she finds another job she likes and not have to worry about me
 
Hiya @ProgramFOX
 
3:22 PM
hey
 
Hiya
 
Hayi
 
@Andy I see. Yeah, I know a couple people here who've moved from around where you are.
 
@hichris123 I've got a sister in law where you are who keeps sending me job openings in the area. We'd consider the area.
As for moving away from here...makes sense...there have been a ton of layoffs in the last two years from multiple large companies
 
I've heard it's been going downhill, yeah... :/
 
3:28 PM
It also doesn't help that the State can't pay any bills so pretty much everything social service related is shutting down and complaining the state is bad
@hichris123 throws hands into the air and rides the roller coaster Weeeeeeeeeee!
 
@Andy Just as long as that roller coaster doesn't run into the ground you're fine. ;)
 
That's just when we find out if I can fly. Or bounce.
Either would be better than a 'splat'
 
I suppose. :P
 
So, what could be the reasons for "can't start new thread", if there is plenty of memory?
 
!!/alive
 
3:38 PM
@Gothdo Of course
 
I don't know. Hopefully we'll find out.
 
I don't have an answer, but maybe this will help with the investigation:
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A: Python: Can't start new thread. <100 active threads

P.ToccaceliI ran into a similar issue and here is how I solved it. Not sure what OS the OP is using, but on Linux there is usually a limit on the number of processes per user. You can see it with ulimit -u (or also ulimit -a). The definition is a bit of a misnomer, as the limit is actually on the number of...

 
^ That may be the case, especially on a limited resource based located on a raspberry pi
 
Why do you run it on raspberry pi?
 
!!/location
 
3:47 PM
@Ferrybig Raspberry Pi
 
!!/alive
 
@AshishAhujaツ Of course
 
@Gothdo Until recently, it handled everything fine. A pi is much more energy friendly than having a server sitting in the basement
 
4:08 PM
Night
 
4:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Princeton Nutrients VitaPulse Review by Hay Day on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
4:42 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: What is the right option for this sentence? by Manoj Kumar Bishwas on ell.stackexchange.com (@TIPS)
 
@SmokeDetector abusive
 
4:56 PM
@SmokeDetector f wrong site, commented
I noticed @Gothdo got into security hall of fame, congrats!
 
I should try to get added to that
Wonder what the requirements are.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Problematic Lumia 1020 and 620 by gautam raj on windowsphone.stackexchange.com
 
> a security issue that affects many users,
 
@SmokeDetector abusive
@sandwich Thanks.
It was XSS on the transcript page in the chat.
 
5:11 PM
@Gothdo May I see the code that make you successfully exploit the bug?
 
Actually @Ferrybig discovered that some links are parsed incorrectly, I just found how to use it to make an XSS.
Wait a sec.
[test](http://example.com/http://example.com/</onmouseover=alert(document.cooki‌​e)//)
 
So it started with that http-in-URL thing?
 
@sandwich yes
@Gothdo Nice job on exploiting it btw, :)
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: In plain sight I lie by Rahul Srinath on puzzling.stackexchange.com
 
5:19 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: On an exceptionally essential level by goodmanmalik77 on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
 
sd 2k
 
I don't know why the Chemistry post was missed by Smokey...
!!/test BEST GURU JI +91-9988310846 love vashikaran specialist baba ji in India Europe
 
> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, phone number detected in title
----------
Title - Position 35-45: vashikaran
Username - Position 35-45: vashikaran
Body - Position 35-45: vashikaran
Title - Phone number: 919988310846
 
Obviously, plenty of reasons to report it based on the title alone.
And I waited a minute before reporting it.
!!/status
 
5:21 PM
@sandwich Running since 14:39:13 UTC (162 minutes)
 
Maybe something in the error logs
 
!!/errorlogs 77
 
2016-05-26 12:06:33.660573 UTC
error: can't start new thread
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ws.py", line 166, in <module>
    t.start()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 495, in start
    _start_new_thread(self.__bootstrap, ())
error: can't start new thread


2016-05-26 12:06:35.593007 UTC
error: can't start new thread
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ws.py", line 166, in <module>
    t.start()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 495, in start
    _start_new_thread(self.__bootstrap, ())
 
What's the deal with http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/3/history?
 
@sandwich SOmone posted :3 in the tavern, this error was discussed earlier today in the charcoal HQ, let me find it
 
5:24 PM
@sandwich I get 404.
 
@Ferrybig bjb of course, he like that emoticon
But the last error in the log is about 3 hours old. Maybe I was impatient reporting Chemistry post, but I don't think so.
 
21 hours ago, by hichris123
Also, hilariously, that last error was due to http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4944130#4944130.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body: How to change the Yahoo Email for receiving / send time and date by 技术团队 on webapps.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
 
5:45 PM
Evening @Yvette
 
hi can't sleep
how are you?
 
@Yvette Good, and you?
 
tired lol
 
@Yvette Have you tried reading a book?
 
@Ferrybig nah played physics games on my phone
probably would've been better off reading
 
5:56 PM
For me watching horror games on YT also works
 
no, I think that might make it harder for me to sleep
 
6:07 PM
@SmokeDetector f
 
6:23 PM
Finally figured out why my Pi's WiFi was so slow. Turns out power management was on by default - must make the chip go to sleep every so often or something like that.
 
hmm
Anyone know how I can see accumulated rep for all that allows people to see chat flags?
Is there a way to make that show?
 
What do you mean? It shows up on a user's profile, e.g. chat.stackexchange.com/users/103081
 
stacktrace file is now 58MB
1.23M lines :P
 
@Undo A java log?
Or python log?
Cause the server log on one of my MC servers at one point reached 1.7GB :D
 
6:40 PM
Python, I'm allergic to Java
Most recent stack dump, seems sane enough
(only the most recent, shouldn't irritate Chrome)
 
Allergic to java?
 
@Undo, you have seen Andy's reply here? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29920313#29920313 It might help in increasing the thread limit
 
@Magisch Ick. Ick ick ick. Now I have to go wash my hands.
@Ferrybig We shouldn't be having these thread counts in the first place; increasing the limit would be a bandaid.
 
true
 
6:59 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: How the hell do I install this thing? by ENCRYPTED on askubuntu.com
 
uhh
 
@Undo Are you sure? If you revert Smokey to say a month ago and fire it up, do you get all the threads?
 
7:23 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Why isn't python 3 the default python binary in Xenial? by tjt263 on askubuntu.com
 
@Andy We get all of the ones we're seeing in the trace right now, but a month ago we weren't having threadcount errors
 
@SmokeDetector Day with largest spam since, since I don't actually remember.
 
@SmokeDetector n
 
That's why I'm asking for the baseline of what we know was working
 
Before yesterday, the previous one was in October
 
sd f
 
8:34 PM
sd f
 
Why were they blacklisted?
 
Restart: API quota is 2937.
 
8:54 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Fluffy texture in a Spanish tortilla by mary on cooking.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
 
sd k
 
sd k
 
9:26 PM
So I never have to go to school again...last day was today. Surprisingly unsure of how I feel about that.
 
@ArtOfCode Feel free
 
API quota rolled over with 2653 requests remaining. Current quota: 9999.
stackoverflow: 1354
askubuntu: 466
superuser: 380
drupal: 257
unix: 219
english: 170
salesforce: 147
math: 138
travel: 121
electronics: 121
gaming: 119
scifi: 115
puzzling: 112
security: 104
dba: 98
mathoverflow.net: 92
ell: 91
gis: 90
mathematica: 87
wordpress: 82
stats: 78
apple: 78
sharepoint: 78
academia: 77
magento: 77
webapps: 76
tex: 74
physics: 68
programmers: 68
rpg: 67
diy: 61
meta: 61
movies: 60
ru.stackoverflow: 57
worldbuilding: 57
android: 55
graphicdesign: 54
chemistry: 53
money: 53
 
9:42 PM
@TIPS There's a why command for that you know. :P
 
@hichris123 User is not blacklisted (3418508 on stackoverflow.com).
 
9:54 PM
!!/pull
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7612277 (hichris1234: Fix message_content typo) (running on Raspberry Pi)
Restart: API quota is 9892.
 
!!/test-a a test string
 
> Would not be caught for title, answer, and username.
 
10:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What kind of animation/drawing program do they use to make South Park? by Rightperson on movies.stackexchange.com
 
10:30 PM
Backoff received of 10 seconds on request to questions/26736?site=history
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: FabricJS double click on objects by LeoCreer on stackoverflow.com
 
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