Charcoal HQ

Normal Human

00:00

A problem is, I think this is where that spam is most active, because of the audience.

But I see we haven't had much success with it recently. Maybe it needs to be tighter.

Brock Adams

Maybe, but I anecdotally recall many fp's and no true hits there.

Normal Human

Yes, I think this kind of spam would now be detected by the presence of email (which it does contain).

Brock Adams

Maybe passport with no link or phone # is okay on that site?

Normal Human

Maybe we can drop this one (title based) entirely.

hichris123

drop the UK passport one.

That's the only thing that gives fps... (and it's my fault, I added 'uk' to the filter months ago)

Normal Human

00:03

(fake|original|novelty|quality).{0,5}(passports?|driver'?s? licen[cs]e|ID cards?)

^ removed uk as the first option, but added .{0,5} to allow for "fake uk passport", etc

Brock Adams

Looks promising.

Normal Human

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 07fbed4 (Normal Human: fewer passport fps) (running on closet server)

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Is this mold? Should i move those plants out of my bedroom? by Tammy on gardening.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

00:24

@SmokeDetector k post & user gone

Sneaky: <p>Water <a href="https://www.buylandscapingplants.com" rel="nofollow">plants</a> only once a week.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Are the iPhone 4 charger and iPod 4 charger different? by fuck you bitches on apple.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

00:48

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to root ZTE prestige by Anna Zetina on android.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

01:00

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: OpenSource ATI driver - Fan running at full speed all the time by user482858 on askubuntu.com

Normal Human

01:24

Interesting, @S.L.Barth got Fanatic badge on Math.SE without ever posting...

(I was looking at Fanatic badges because of this bug report: one lucky user got three of them.)

There are 40 fanatics without posts on Math. The oldest, and most reputable, is RegDwight of ELU fame.

That's a pretty high number. SO has only 126; compare the site size...

Normal Human

04:01

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@NormalHuman Running since 00:07:18 UTC (233 minutes)

Seth

!!/test The Best Sunscreens To Utilize On Baby Skin

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

Seth

!!/test I invested lots of time while in the sunlight and that I shaved every-day, often without needing shaving lotion. I am a shade-tree technician along with the stuff I take advantage of to completely clean my palms is extremely drying. Currently, I wish to search younger and greater, all-over, and so I began buying full anti-aging Skin Care technique. Innate Cream

http://tadvancesite.com/innate-cream/

SmokeDetector

> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 320-330: anti-aging
Username - Position 320-330: anti-aging
Body - Position 320-330: anti-aging
Title - Position 366-389: http://tadvancesite.com
Title - Position 374-388: advancesite.co
Body - Position 374-388: advancesite.co

Seth

04:02

hmm, so why'd you miss it?

Must have just slipped through I guess.

Normal Human

Probably in the api queue

How long did it sit on the site?

Seth

~1 minute.

Normal Human

Yeah, most likely there wasn't another active question to fill the queue.

Seth

hm, ok. How does this queue work?

hichris123

Posts get added to the queue, once there are two posts in the AU queue, it waits 60 seconds then makes an API request.

Normal Human

04:05

Was it 60 or 30?

60.

hichris123

60. That time should probably be played around with.

Normal Human

What if we tried less delay?

hichris123

And/or beg someone to make the API refresh more rapidly.

@NormalHuman we could, but the idea was to make sure the post was in the API data.

Normal Human

I think it's be more realistic to ask for higher quota, e.g., 25000 req for Smokey.

hichris123

fair idea. not sure who we'd beg, but...

Normal Human

04:08

Kevin Montrose. Incidentally, I just read something in the API docs...

> Some examples of write abuse that will be punished:

> "Auto-commenting" based on post heuristics.
> Automating flagging or closing based on dumb heuristics.

Um... I've been auto-commenting on Math for about two months now.

Undo

Smokey seems to be fairly not-dumb.

Normal Human

For auto-flagging, it's only "dumb" heuristics that's prohibited, for comments it apparently doesn't matter.

Oh well. If they ban me from Math, f the site and its API.

Undo

lol

You can always just put together a case for why what you're doing is sane and present it to someone who looks like they're in a good mood

Normal Human

> All content created via the API will have links pointing back to an app's Stack Apps post, to aid in giving an app's author feedback and in reporting abusive content.

Is this so?

Undo

That stopped happening when the apps came out

IIRC

Normal Human

04:15

Or just write to team@ asking to bump up the quota for the particular API key...

I mean, Smokey had just 900 left today.

Undo

Usually we're over 1k.

But yeah, it might be worth asking for more

@NormalHuman Where was the text saying we can ask for more?

Normal Human

@Undo Don't remember, but here's a post by Kevin Montrose saying a user can make as many as 50K requests.

Undo

@NormalHuman That's with authentication, then you get 10k per app, up to 5 apps.

Normal Human

Oh, Smokey isn't using auth...

Undo

That's something we could do - just alternate between two keys

Normal Human

04:22

But that's not too difficult to arrange, right? Just getting a token.

Undo

Although I'd rather just get a bigger quota than do something hackish

Normal Human

Yes. And then two distinct keys could be used for two purposes; e.g., one for SO, one for the rest.

A hybrid approach: write to team@ and ask whether Smokey using 20K requests via two API keys is okay with them.

Then they don't need to actually do anything in order to allow more requests.

Undo

I might just ping someone in TL and ask

Normal Human

Heh, and then we have Shog9 explicitly approving automatic votes and comments.

Undo

@NormalHuman Wow, I hadn't seen that.

Kinda stunned that he linked to us.

I somewhat doubt SE would have issues doubling Smokey's quota on a load basis.

It seems to have proven itself decently well

SmokeDetector

04:38

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Produce Extra Money By Operating At Home? by kawazasew on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Working of Apex Vitality Miracle Bust? by spabaltangela on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What are the consumer reviews about item? by terids jams on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

04:54

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Where can i purchase product improved? by wenadyjuriyam on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

05:08

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Ideas For Making Money - Tips To Help You Make Money by edgarrader on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

05:24

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why do people still use the mole (unit) in chemistry? by Me a person on chemistry.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in title: http://trylxwprot.com/how-to-remove-cinema-plus/ by GerardJacb on askubuntu.com

Normal Human

> @people what the [censored] I'm a junior and its like 9 pm and I just need to know what 3 units are compared using a mole and ur answers are like as long as the text book answer I'm trying to avoid reading so ????Pls

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: That they use the word Westinghouse by Kaitlynakhurst on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: The Complete Muscle Strong N Power Control Formula by hemanyturk1967 on movies.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: They want to see the speed of light by Mioplj Pk on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

05:51

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: What is wrinkle remover Cream? by ChristopherGailey on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

06:02

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: addition anything at all it is possible by roniyofida02 on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in title: http://nationalfitnesspoint.com/niagen-reviews/ by Jonny Bondu on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in title: Movers And Packers In Bangalore @ buy5th.in/movers-and-packers-bangalore.html by Chandan Singh on drupal.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

sd 7k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: When you are working to build up your muscles by velmablee on meta.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

06:18

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: T4 Template debugging fine but errors out in normal run mode by user5685168 on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Miracle Bust Like whatever other woman? by spabaltangela on stackoverflow.com

Normal Human

sd 2k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: through this audit, which I can't prevent? by spabaltangela on askubuntu.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How is top Tips Of muscle? by tiffanyjmoll on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: How Will It Work? by chunjuriym on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Play the wings to break on FIFA 16 by memorygame on gaming.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@NormalHuman I have a script to help me with that.

@SmokeDetector k

So, my Fanatic badge on Math.SE is not related to that bug report.

....what's scary is that I'm just 10 flags away from the Marshal badge on Drupal.SE without ever posting there....

SmokeDetector

06:31

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Exactly what NIAGEN May possibly Suggest intended for CFS/FM by masomlulie on meta.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

You're in good company in Drupal-Marshal department.

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

Normal Human

7 out of 20 Marshals on Drupal have no posts there.

drupal.stackexchange.com/help/badges/81/marshal

S.L. Barth

Great minds think alike... I was just looking at that!

Normal Human

Among those, PeterJ has 2381 helpful flags. Like 4 and a half Marshal badges.

S.L. Barth

06:35

...wow.....

Quite a few people from the Tavern there. The Drupal.SE mods should be quite grateful for Smokey.

Although I still don't understand.... why is Drupal.SE so popular with spammers?

Academia.SE and AskUbuntu.SE I understand. Their URL's are early in the alphabet, and we often see the work in alphabetic order.

Normal Human

@S.L.Barth Nobody knows. This is periodically asked on meta.Drupal (where [spam] is one of the most popular tags), and questions get closed as opinion-based.

Here's a funny one:

2

Q: Why is my SPAM served so slow?

I mean, often there is a "1 question with new activity" button. I click it immediately when it appears for me, and whoa, question is already deleted. It's pretty irritating - if post gets deleted before info is shown on my screen, server should stop that info, right? Posting here and not on meta...

I think we know why that happens. :)

Reading the spam tag I see they had this problem since 2011, when the site launched.

S.L. Barth

@NormalHuman He does have a sense of humor!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to recover folder converted to file by check disk? by Mike on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@S.L.Barth Body - Position 77-90: arecovery.com

Normal Human

06:48

It's just a general pattern, it says nothing about that particular site.

The post was there since 2013... and the top-voted post is also nothing but links to apps.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Magento recurring paypal payment for buy package by Ricky Verma on magento.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: HADOOP Online Training by anaja78 on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Home Business Ideas - To Earn Money At Home by qinyseya on drupal.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

sd 3k

The Magento post is less obvious, but it's still just a promotion.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, Blacklisted user: Looking for magento extension for buyer seller in marketplace by Ricky Verma on magento.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

@SmokeDetector k that makes it more obvious.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO DISABLE PROXIMITY SENSOR PROGRAMATICALLY by Khilafat E Rashida on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Earn Cash Now - The Easy Way by paultramirez on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: How do exactly mean multi vendor in magento? by Ricky Verma on magento.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Which side isomer adjusted than the by user534270 on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Melhora o neurotransmissor no cérebro! by danilooliveira on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is it possible to write data to file using only JavaScript? by plank on stackoverflow.com

Normal Human

07:14

sd 5k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: ETL TESTING ONLINE TRAINING by vanaja on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Angular 2 error: by user5685389 on stackoverflow.com

S.L. Barth

sd 2k

Wrzlprmft

@NormalHuman: Just being curious: What did people do in the grace period that makes you go through the trouble of ending it.

Normal Human

@Wrzlprmft I've seen posts that unquestionably qualified as rude/abusive edited into mild-mannered NAA. Not that it's a big deal, but I don't want my flag to be misunderstood.

SmokeDetector

07:30

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: excel found unreadable content in .xlsx do you want to recover the contents of this workbook? if you trust the source of this workbook, click yes by kylfederer12345 on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in title: http://nationalfitnesspoint.com/niagen-reviews/ by Olivia Emma on askubuntu.com

Normal Human

sd 2k

S.L. Barth

@Wrzlprmft The report is about an answer, and that answer was spam.

Wrzlprmft

Argh, my bad

S.L. Barth

!!/addblu superuser.com/users/530707/kylfederer12345

SmokeDetector

@S.L.Barth User blacklisted (530707 on superuser.com).

S.L. Barth

07:43

@Wrzlprmft It happens. Just added the spammer back to the blacklist manually.

Normal Human

... and this wouldn't happen if SE had some visual indication like "answer not found" when a user navigates to a deleted answer. Instead of silently redirecting to another post.

It could even be done 100% on the front end.

S.L. Barth

I think they consider that noise. But you could post a feature-request.

Normal Human

Already exists: Show warning or 404 when following permalink to deleted answer by Arjan on meta.stackexchange.com

Atwood considered the situation where all answers are deleted "beyond edge conditions". Well then.

S.L. Barth

True, but he said that back in 2011. Meanwhile I've upvoted the question.

Normal Human

07:59

Turns out Arjan is the author of What can I do when getting "We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account"?, both Q and A parts. Good job, he must have gotten hundreds of comments there when this post was used as a duplicate target for all complains about bans.

Doesn't seem to happen anymore, since rolling question limits were introduced.

Wrzlprmft

@NormalHuman I’d rather guess that the post is locked for that very reason.

Also, if it were too much of an annoyance, he would have probably have the post disassociated from his account.

@S.L.Barth And I nudged it with a bounty …

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: how to tell virtual box it has the wrong path for a disk? by bhgnhking on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: additional more commonly just a few steps a methods by scobar juriya on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@Wrzlprmft Good idea! Hope it'll help.

SmokeDetector

08:06

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: It is extra additional most most most commonly than by scobarjuriya on askubuntu.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps answer: Was Ungoliant more powerful than Morgoth? by Melkor on scifi.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: the long-lasting effects of firmer? by melanietosan on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: it going undigested. Moreover by melanietosan on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: breasts sizes enlarged. By using? by melanie tosan on drupal.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

sd 3k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: An web business, your visitors are taken care of immediately by user534292 on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

08:31

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: The key to exercise is the duration by Fery Cool on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: the day progressed. Meta Boost is a clinically demonstrated by Alicejurim on stackoverflow.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in title: http://dermabrightskinfacts.com/anti-aging-cream-2016/ by francisyeager on drupal.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

08:54

[ SmokeDetector ] Chinese character in title: UCLA毕业证文凭办理（Q\\微信“956290760”）办理加州大学洛杉矶分校毕业证成绩单学历认证留学回国公证（UniversityofCalifornia,‌LosAngeles） by fasfefaf09 on meta.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, Blacklisted user: Detect trojan/keylogger/Virus on a businees network by Jayabal on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: How To Get Rid Of Dark Under Eye Circles Now! by robershcrasn on security.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

09:12

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Origin of “deez nuts” by Chris Sunami on english.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Should You Buy Over The Counter Anti Aging Products by user55402 on drupal.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

09:49

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Sitecore 8: The automation state for contact 46905fd6-25ee-4b91-a968-80cc29943e2f and plan 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 has not been found by Prageeth Roshane on stackoverflow.com

Wrzlprmft

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@Wrzlprmft Title - Position 1-147: Sitecore 8: The automation state for contact 46905fd6-25ee-4b91-a968-80cc29943e2f and plan 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 has not been found

Wrzlprmft

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How to use Perfect Biotics Probiotic America? by Jcar Ron on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

09:56

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: LED strip underwater by mila Wen on electronics.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in title: Clinical Study of NIAGEN | nationalfitnesspoint.com/niagen-reviews by masomlulie on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

sd k gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Rich Foods introduced Coffee Rich non-dairy Creme Del Mar by anita07 on meta.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, Blacklisted user: Suffering from digest issues? Take Nucific BIO X4 by Jcar Ron on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

10:06

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, Blacklisted user: BEST Online SAP BO Training by hafeez12 on stackoverflow.com

S.L. Barth

10:19

@SmokeDetector gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Book Review writing for custom essay writing service by Suerochon on chemistry.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

10:45

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How can Remove our pimples? by FrankHarris on superuser.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

11:04

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Creme Del Mar Your top reference is uninsurable mo by NigeYnv on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps body: Oracle Warehouse Builder(OWB)-Failed to Connect to Control Center Manager by Prateek Agrawal on stackoverflow.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector f ...but needs editing....

SmokeDetector

11:36

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Online COGNOS Training? by bmaalaab on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: An Unbiased View of Legion Pulse by JosephCRobinson on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

12:07

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Best Solution for Wrinkles? by alberakhatfield on askubuntu.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

12:38

[ SmokeDetector ] Shortened URL in answer: Average time on page VS Average visit duration on Google Analytics by Marcin R. on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

12:52

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Have malware in your PC? by P.David on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

13:06

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: install tensorflow cause error on osx? by 庾金科 on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

13:36

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Scientist trying to disprove witchcraft falls in love with a witch by Michael Allien on scifi.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, phone number detected in title: Mac support number 1-844-410-7598 by Mac support number on german.stackexchange.com

Normal Human

sd 2k

SmokeDetector

14:20

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Disable Windows battling over the cursor position by 413X on stackoverflow.com

ProgramFOX

14:38

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9f97851 (ProgramFOX: Listen to edits in chat...) (running on closet server)

ProgramFOX

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

Now let's test whether this works...

> Listen to edits in chat...

But only take action on an edited message if it hasn't been handled
before.

!!/alive

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

14:39

Okay so that didn't work, I probably don't handle CE's caching correctly.

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev bfc0e6b (ProgramFOX: Overwrite ChatExchange's cache for edited msg) (running on closet server)

ProgramFOX

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

14:43

Yay!

Now let's test that it doesn't reply if it already has replied:

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Running since 14:42:40 UTC (1 minute)

ProgramFOX

Alright!

Smokey now listens to edits on messages that it didn't recognize before. So for example, you can edit !!/aliv into !!/alive, but not sd fp- into sd tp-.

5

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: What is the fastest way to clear cache and cookies in Google Chrome? by Jerry on superuser.com

ProgramFOX

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 23 hours ago, by Undo

@ProgramFOX Might be a good idea to only make it listen to edits if the original message wasn't registered as a command or was invalid

Hmm, but that means that I would also have to make it listen to edits for commands where someone inputted something incorrectly, like in !!/addblu.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: SQL Server - Debugging - How to show parametervalues as HEX by Bengelnatz on dba.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: WINPE and All Flash Array LUN local system disk not found by Waldo on stackoverflow.com

ProgramFOX

15:01

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev bfc0e6b (ProgramFOX: Overwrite ChatExchange's cache for edited msg) (running on closet server)

ProgramFOX

oops I forgot to push

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d41d646 (ProgramFOX: Commands with invalid args can be edited later) (running on closet server)

ProgramFOX

!!/notify abc def

what did I break?

!!/errorlogs 100

SmokeDetector

  File "/home/smokey/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 686, in _runner
    a = self.ws.recv()

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 348, in recv
    opcode, data = self.recv_data()

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 365, in recv_data
    opcode, frame = self.recv_data_frame(control_frame)

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 378, in recv_data_frame
    frame = self.recv_frame()

ProgramFOX

15:06

ah

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 6f15923 (ProgramFOX: Fix shortcut handler for tuples) (running on closet server)

ProgramFOX

!!/alive?

sd del

Wait. I just found out that the decide-what-to-edit-code doesn't know about shortcut commands...

But it would get terribly complicated if all commands would have to be handled one-by-one after an edit...

Whatever, since mostly it's used for one command anyway, I'll just make it re-execute everything, that shouldn't hurt.

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX CI build is still pending, wait until the build has finished and then pull again.

ProgramFOX

!!/pull

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ProgramFOX

15:20

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

sd del

Actually, "unknown command" is enough because there are no arguments for shortcut-able commands.

Okay, better idea: instead of re-running all commands if one is unrecognized, Smokey will only listen to edits of that message if all shortcut commands are unrecognized.

Undo

That sounds better, yeah

ProgramFOX

!!/pull

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ProgramFOX

15:32

!!/alive?

sd del

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

ProgramFOX

!!/status

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@ProgramFOX Running since 15:32:25 UTC (0 minutes)

ProgramFOX

sd del del

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1. [:26225766] That message is not a report.
2. [:26225762] <unrecognized command>

ProgramFOX

15:34

\o/

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16:37

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16:59

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Normal Human

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally off-topic. — FlagAsSpam 31 secs ago

You know, usually we greet new users with "Welcome to Programming Puzzles and Code Golf!", but I don't think that can even apply here. — Ampora 28 secs ago

Why is the user with the name "FlagAsSpam" voting to close spam as off-topic?

SmokeDetector

API quota rolled over with 1030 requests remaining.

Undo

API quota consistently rolls over at... six minutes past the hour?

Normal Human

It can be 4 or 5. chat.stackexchange.com/…

I thought Smokey was just slow to notice, but his average rate of requests is one every 10 seconds.

Undo

Especially in the morning USA time

Normal Human

17:11

Let's blame caching.

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Normal Human

17:54

2

A: Who discovered the topological proof of Nielsen-Schreier theorem?

See the end of the Wikipedia link in your first sentence.

A brilliant answer, and an accepted one, too.

17

Q: The MIT License – Clarity on Using Stack Overflow Code

CC-BY-SA is an ideal license for a crowdsourced knowledge base. We’ve benefitted immensely from it, our community has gained protection through it, and we look forward to CC-BY-SA continuing to cover prose contributions to Stack Overflow for all of eternity. But code is a bit different (pun int...

discussion featured license creative-commons mit-license

Andy

18:17

Those of you that have done the Explicit/Implicit authentication why'd you pick what you did? I think Blaze is using implicit. I've done explicit before. Now I'm working on a new thing and am debating on whether one is better than the other.

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S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector k

Normal Human

I picked implicit because I only need to authenticate myself. I cook up a URL for request, redirect to SE site, and copy the token from hash into a script.

This probably doesn't count as "implementation". :p

@ProgramFOX It happened several times in the past weeks that a report was posted here, but failed to appear in the Tavern. No relevant errors in the log. The MSE chat is weird.

ProgramFOX

18:36

hmm ok

Normal Human

This is a network wide change. Shouldn't this be posted on Meta.SE? — Thomas Owens 32 mins ago

Heh. Further proof that the rest of the network is a neglected ugly child.

Meta.SE is becoming just an archive of proposals to require comments with downvotes.

S.L. Barth

18:52

Haha, you were looking at the same question!

Normal Human

19:17

Well, the MIT announcement did get migrated to meta.SE after all. It still says "Stack Overflow code", but nowadays this term can mean anything.

I recalled that SO user #13 has a profile page text allowing the use of his SO code under CC0.

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19:38

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21:17

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hichris123

21:43

es.so is in the HNQ. Aren't foreign language SO sites supposed to be excluded?

Seth

I believe so.

Normal Human

I believe foreign language questions are meant to be excluded, per this post.

Exclusion by the content, not by site.

A recent reference is the confused post history here.

I gather from it that lang-SO are an exception in a different sense: HNQ do not appear in the sidebar there.

Three sites are penalized: SO, TWP, Programmers; but they can still be in HNQ.

And apparently, there is no outright exclusion for any site.

hichris123

hmm

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22:16

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22:27

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22:39

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Normal Human

23:08

I'm not gonna say that months of going back and forth on this, drawing up plans only to scrap them and start over, nagging lazy co-workers for feedback and trying to parse legal objections have driven Sam & Tim completely mad... I have entirely too much respect for them to say that. But they could probably both use a gallon or two of strong drink at this point. — Shog9 ♦ 1 hour ago

So, how about they get that & the plan is scrapped again..

@SmokeDetector f and I think civicrm has to be excluded from this.

Like Salesforce, it's a thing about managing contact information such as emails, among other.

Normal Human

23:40

What about lang-SO sites? The whole license discussion is on Meta in English.

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