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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in body (27): Falha ao abrir 'db.php' para inclusão ✏️ by Leandro Oliveira on pt.stackoverflow.com

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9:23 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): Get data from mysql in Flutter by Ciprian Turcu on stackoverflow.com

Jeff Schaller

!!/watch 𝓢𝓾𝓹𝓹𝓸𝓻𝓽_𝓱𝓮𝓵𝓹𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓮_𝓷𝓾𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻

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@JeffSchaller That pattern looks like it's already caught by Mostly non-latin body and Mostly non-latin answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

Jeff Schaller

!!/watch-force 𝓢𝓾𝓹𝓹𝓸𝓻𝓽_𝓱𝓮𝓵𝓹𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓮_𝓷𝓾𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻

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@JeffSchaller You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4343 for you.

PR#4343 ("Jeff Schaller: Watch 𝓢𝓾𝓹𝓹𝓸𝓻𝓽_𝓱𝓮𝓵𝓹𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓮_𝓷𝓾𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻") opened by SmokeDetector

Eliah Kagan

!!/approve 4343

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9:27 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 8e4300a (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4343 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1597267431) (running on teward/Osiris)

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9:47 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Can´t center the p element when it has a background-color with a set width ✏️ by Sigge Thorén on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): API do Whatsapp - não aceita várias php vindas do Formulário by João Freitas on pt.stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to remap a combination of buttons clicks to run a script by Yassine Bridi on unix.SE

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user435118

10:14 PM

@SmokeDetector f This would have not been detected with my PR

gparyani

Just FYI for people who've logged in and manually posted messages through the SmokeDetector account: there is a discussion on Teams about doing so

user435118

@gparyani Should I upgrade my comment to an answer?

gparyani

@Daniil Yeah, so people can vote on that choice

@Daniil Congratulations on your first bit of Teams rep!

ArtOfCode

@gparyani [status-not-everything-needs-a-policy]

gparyani

@ArtOfCode protocol !~= policy

"not necessarily equals"

ArtOfCode

10:20 PM

[status-not-everything-needs-a-protocol], then

annoyingly, I can't add that as a tag

I'm vetoing that one.

user435118

@gparyani Thanks

user435118

@ArtOfCode If we’re going to allow joke messages, we need to at least make them available to all somehow, not to the limited people who have creds. Plus, some people have creds when they don’t need them.

ArtOfCode

@Daniil Frame challenge. Why do we need to make them available to everyone?

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user435118

@ArtOfCode Huh, I can’t -1 your answer :(

ArtOfCode

10:24 PM

What a shame ;)

user435118

These “jokes” either need to be available for more people, or stopped altogether. SmokeDetector is not for a single person posting a joke and confusing everyone

SmokeDetector

@gparyani I'd like to disagree with this proposal

ArtOfCode

and this is why we allow it :)

5 mins ago, by ArtOfCode

@Daniil Frame challenge. Why do we need to make them available to everyone?

Having the creds is a privilege, much as flagger or reviewer or blacklister is a privilege

It comes with perks and responsibilities

One of those responsibilities is protecting the creds and running a Smokey if/when you can

One of those perks is pretending Smokey has a personality

or multiple

Mithical

...which reminds me, I might have a pi available now; have to check. Can Smokey still run on a pi?

ArtOfCode

Depends what model

Probably can't run on the early models any more, but I have a Pi B 4GB next to me and that probably could

Mithical

10:32 PM

I'll investigate further at a more sane hour, then

ArtOfCode

...although it might not like the heat at the moment

it's already running at 65-70 with only pihole on it

user435118

@Mithical Why? You want a test instance?

Mithical

or a standby instance

user435118

I was told we don’t need more instances

Mithical

I ran an instance for a bit... years ago, which is why I have the creds

ArtOfCode

10:34 PM

@Daniil eh, we don't really, but... folks who already have the creds kinda have implied permission/responsibility to run instances as and when they can

Mithical

so, you know, maybe justify having memorized Smokey's password :P

ArtOfCode

@Mithical I have no justification... haven't run an instance in years but I still know it :P

user435118

@ArtOfCode That’s the point, too many people have creds

ArtOfCode

eh

user435118

Who don’t need them

ArtOfCode

10:35 PM

hasn't been an issue

also changing creds that need to be shared between a bunch of people is a royal PITA

user435118

What’s PITA?

ArtOfCode

Pain In The Ass

or Arrrrrrse if you speak Pirate

user435118

Oh ok, simple. Just share the new creds on the top secret Charcoal Keybase team

Mithical

sixteen people by my count

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How do I install linux on a 4k DVR ✏️ by estebanhirzfeld on unix.SE

ArtOfCode

10:40 PM

@Daniil not impossible, no, just a pain

But moot point when we're not planning to change them

@Mithical which reminds me... Was irrelevant when you were a mod, but not now

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user435118

@Mithical The only people who needs creds in my opinion: all 6 public admins, Thomas Ward and iBug

ArtOfCode

Folks with creds are supposed to be ROs

@Daniil What if Thomas and iBug are unavailable and their instances die?

user435118

@ArtOfCode Then we have Makyens instance

ArtOfCode

What if they're unavailable?

Mithical

10:46 PM

@ArtOfCode oh, thanks

user435118

@ArtOfCode Too many what if’s

Mithical

What's the problem with people having the credentials?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body (96): Scraping a team stats table from python using BS4 by Jorge Cerquera on stackoverflow.com

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ArtOfCode

@Daniil who defines what's too many?

What's the rationale?

Point is, letting folks keep them gives us a better chance that someone can get an instance going if everything that's going goes down

Because if only the admins plus Thomas and iBug have them, then the answer to if Makyen is unavailable is that we're relying on me as the next most active and likely to be able to.

Except if someone asked me to run an instance right now, it'd take me an hour to get set up on the Pi before I could start it, because my server is full.

user435118

@ArtOfCode Sounds like a X Y problem

user435118

10:56 PM

Anyway, maybe we can live with a couple of people having creds who don’t need them, I still don’t think that entitles posting jokes as SD

Mithical

They're separate issues. Someone having credentials and doesn't need them isn't related to someone having credentials and making jokes.

ArtOfCode

@Daniil what's X and what's Y?

@Daniil why?

If you have credentials, you're expected to use them sensibly. Fun is not unsensible.

user435118

@ArtOfCode See my teams post

ArtOfCode

Given that... What is there to say you shouldn't?

user435118

@ArtOfCode ?

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11:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (42): How much PFAS actually leach into food? by noobycoder on chemistry.SE

user435118

@ArtOfCode Your saying that if only admins and SD runners had creds it wouldn’t be enough but you don’t want more admins or SD runners

ArtOfCode

@Daniil SD runners includes everyone who has creeds regardless of whether they currently run an instance

If only admin+Thomas+iBug had creds it wouldn't be enough. All the SD runners having creds is.

user435118

@ArtOfCode By SD runners I mean people who run an instance

user435118

@ArtOfCode Fun does not equal annoying which is insensible

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11:18 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How to avoid being manipulated when asking for someones preference? by black blue on interpersonal.SE

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11:31 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (32): How do I schedule a ipnyb notebook in Sagemaker using AWS lambda? by navneet chaudhary on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): A trouble with Uber Clone by Carlos R on stackoverflow.com

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11:46 PM

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