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5:21 PM
@Spevacus In the future, you can see if a watch is already caught by looking at the reasons it was caught. For watch it will probably be potentially bad keyword in.... And you can edit messages to fix typos, SD takes them as "new commands"
 
@Daniil Picked up on that first part, but that latter part is useful. Didn't think it would work for commands like !!/watch - Cheers :)
 
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5:36 PM
!!/amiblacklistprivileged
 
@Makyen ✓ You are a blacklist manager privileged user.
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6:00 PM
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6:14 PM
@user12986714 Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]
 
@user12986714 Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]
 
6:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): Is there an authoritative list of most frequent to most infrequent pronunciations for individual Chinese characters? by Xipu Li on chinese.SE
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!!/watch- (?-i:C3MJFLQ)(?#surveymonkey.com)
 
user435118
sdc watch (?-i:C3MJFLQ)(?#Surverymonkey)
 
@Daniil That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
user435118
@Makyen So close yet so far...
 
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user435118
6:40 PM
sdc test surveymonkey.com/r/C3MJFLQ
 
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> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
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Potentially bad keyword in body - Position 0-16: surveymonkey.com, Position 19-26: C3MJFLQ
Potentially bad keyword in title - Position 0-16: surveymonkey.com, Position 19-26: C3MJFLQ
Potentially bad keyword in username - Position 0-16: surveymonkey.com, Position 19-26: C3MJFLQ
 
> surverymonkey
 
@Daniil And here I was thinking... "Oh good, I could have not done any work there and everything would have been fine."
 
Nice ;)
 
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7:25 PM
@Daniil @Makyen BTW thanks a bunch for trying to help me work through my bug earlier.
 
user435118
@Rubiksmoose No problem, did you managed to get FIRE fixed in the end?
 
Why would Smokey use FIRE?
 
user435118
@Machavity ?
 
@Daniil Note to whom you replied
 
user435118
Sorry for bothering you Smokey, I'm sure you have better things to do like searching for spam :)
 
user435118
7:29 PM
@Machavity Thanks
 
@Rubiksmoose np. I'm assuming it's still not resolved.
 
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7:48 PM
@Daniil No resolution yet. XD Maybe I forgot to send Smokey a birthday card or something and they are upset at me.
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@Makyen^
 
user435118
@Rubiksmoose Probably xD
 
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@Rubiksmoose I missed this; what's the bug?
 
6 hours ago, by Rubiksmoose
@Machavity I do use FIRE, but unfortunately it never lets me cast any actual flags with it. I have to go manually to the site and flag the normal way.
I think this was the final debugging state:
5 hours ago, by Rubiksmoose
@Daniil reinstalled, recleared the settings, reprovided token (got confirmation token was accepted), reautorized SE. All scripts disabled except FIRE and ublock turned off. Still error.
5 hours ago, by Rubiksmoose
> jquery.min.js:4 POST https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/api/v2.0/posts/253582/flag 500 (Internal Server Error)
send @ jquery.min.js:4
ajax @ jquery.min.js:4
postMetaSmokeFlag @ userscript.html?name…d-7b5be50c9bcd:1956
postMetaSmokeFeedbackAndFlag @ userscript.html?name…d-7b5be50c9bcd:1861
click @ userscript.html?name…d-7b5be50c9bcd:2100
dispatch @ jquery.min.js:3
r.handle @ jquery.min.js:3
 
I blame jQuery
 
8:00 PM
I actually got it to work once which, if anything is even more frustrating
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to solve Linker errors in C++ Test Unit by Fabio Guido on stackoverflow.com
 
> 'You have already flagged this post for moderator attention'
was the error message on that particular instance
let's go for the traditional solution
 
iBug/Sandy: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Keyboard for programmers? ✏️ by ArtOfCode on hardwarerecs.SE
 
@Rubiksmoose try again flagging ^ that through FIRE
 
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8:09 PM
> jquery.min.js:4 POST https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/api/v2.0/posts/253649/flag 500 (Internal Server Error)
send @ jquery.min.js:4
ajax @ jquery.min.js:4
postMetaSmokeFlag @ userscript.html?name…1-e54d64f27de3:1956
eval @ userscript.html?name…1-e54d64f27de3:1875
i @ jquery.min.js:2
fireWith @ jquery.min.js:2
y @ jquery.min.js:4
c @ jquery.min.js:4
XMLHttpRequest.send (async)
send @ jquery.min.js:4
ajax @ jquery.min.js:4
postMetaSmokeFeedbackAndFlag @ userscript.html?name…1-e54d64f27de3:1867
 
@Rubiksmoose 'No account on this site.'
 
:-|
 
Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
 
you do need an account to be able to flag stuff ;)
 
8:10 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link (22): regex date DD/MM/YYYY by Karthik Nayak on stackoverflow.com
 
Mr. Rubiksmoose... Are you trying to flag on sites you don't have an account on? ;D
 
Mayyyybe?
 
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Let me try again with an account lol
 
8:11 PM
Hehehe
 
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Can confirm, definitely did not have an account there lol
And... success :-|
lol
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
welp I think we solved it :P
 
I guess that explains my one success too...
sigh
Well thanks for your help!
 
8:13 PM
Anytime :)
 
grumble needs an account to flag grumble
 
user435118
Wait, what? It was that simple :(
 
It'd be neat if the extension openly told you, "Hey! You don't have an account on that site, bonehead!"
Give or take the "bonehead" part.
 
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8:35 PM
!!/watch-number 01062891530
!!/watch-number 0122253066
 
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8:59 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): Where to buy half tubes for outdoor games ✏️ by jaycee on outdoors.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): countSmileys from CodeWars by saimon_v on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Exit code at the end of a bash script by Mustapha on unix.SE
 
9:41 PM
@Spevacus FIRE is expecting a response from MS that tells it what the error is, which includes not having an account on the site. The code exists in FIRE and has previously worked to report that there's no account for that user. If it's not working, then something has changed on MS or SE.
 
Iiiinteresting
 
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@Makyen I'd say it may be easier to start by debugging MS responses.
because there have been a bunch of changes merged recently
cc @ArtOfCode and @thesecretmaster who did a lot of the recent PR accepts.
 
FIRE specifically will translate the response "No account on this site." from MS into displaying "This post could not be flagged.<br/>You don\'t have an account on that site."
 
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9:58 PM
@ThomasWard hm? what's wrong?
 
20 mins ago, by Makyen
@Spevacus FIRE is expecting a response from MS that tells it what the error is, which includes not having an account on the site. The code exists in FIRE and has previously worked to report that there's no account for that user. If it's not working, then something has changed on MS or SE.
@thesecretmaster in case any of the recent PRs on MS could have broken ^ that
 
Is it confirmed broken?
How can I repro it
 
user435118
Try to flag on a site you have no account on
 
So it's a MS API bug, on flagging?
 
10:04 PM
not sure if it's an MS explosion or if something on SE changed
though the Internet at large did take a crap in the past hour
so there's probably some Routing and Internet Hell going on that could also be factors
 
user435118
@ThomasWard Oh? I had that as well. What happened?
 
@Daniil not sure
but Internet as a whole took a crap and a lot of services are still restoring slowly
 
user435118
> If you hear about a Level 3 Internet outage today and haven’t heard this company mentioned before, then you might be wondering how problems involving the Level3 network could take down your access to Yahoo Mail, PSN, Xbox Live, Outlook, BT, Twitch, HBO Go, Craigslist, and other networks/services.
 
10:16 PM
@ThomasWard BTW: Since you're around, could you give Osiris a kick?
 
stdby
 
@ThomasWard You'll need to pull
 
Looks like a CF issue?
 
@Makyen reboot in progress
 
10:20 PM
CF and GH explosion took out Git syncup so it got locked on an autoblacklist branch
 
@thesecretmaster At least the Osiris issue is that a room in which SD listens for commands was changed to private, but SD wasn't granted read/write privileges. It affected all SD instances, but Osiris is just the last to be manually updated.
 
CF caused a LOT of problems
 
@Makyen manually pulled now and trying to cycle it
chat.se comm failures
so Osiris is probably torched at the moment
 
Hmmm... the issue we had may appear like that. I'd double-check the pull.
 
did that pull by hand
you saying it failed?
'cause I pulled master AND deploy by hand
 
10:27 PM
The issue we had presents as a hard-reboot loop as SD trys to join rooms, with a complaint that time doesn't exist in the response it gets from SE.
 
that's what's happening even when manually launched
got a fix for it yet 'cause git says i'm in line with deploy and master on GH
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer (123): what are the cons of converting plastic to fuel by Bigteeth on chemistry.SE
Makyen/Windows: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
 
user435118
sdc watch bigteeth\.ltd
 
A fix that worked for the other instances was pushed 12/14 hours ago.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d1c2d5d (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 0122253066 by Machavity) (running on Makyen/Windows, Python 3.7.4)
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev a2cbc2f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of bigteeth\.ltd by Daniil) (running on Makyen/Windows)
Restart: API quota is 10559.
 
10:29 PM
@Makyen well
apparently the fix doesn't work
rebooting the box to nuke DNS, etc. caches
 
user435118
I had the same issue, you just need to wait
 
Hmmm... strange. I can try rebooting my EC2 instance....
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a2cbc2f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of bigteeth\.ltd by Daniil) (running on Makyen/EC2-linux, Python 3.6.10)
Restart: API quota is 18404.
 
@Makyen This is a lightsail instance, not EC2, but still AWS.
 
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10:33 PM
well rebooting my box seemed to fix things
not sure HOW that was the case but it worked without much issue
!!/location
 
!!/standby Makyen
 
Restart: API quota is 19984.
Makyen/Windows is switching to standby
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@ThomasWard If all else fails something's wrong power cycle the machine. :)
 
heh
DNS cache could have been affected :P
 
10:40 PM
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It's working now. That's the important part.
Now there's work to do on SD, so we don't have similar problems in the future:
The temporary solution was to just remove the room from rooms.yml. The next stage is waiting for that site's mods to grant SD access, then reverting the change to rooms.yml. The slightly longer term issue is to catch the error and let SD boot up all the way. If there's at least one debug room that is joined, then report the problem, if not, reboot. The next layer to fix/adjust is to change how SD recovers from issues which result in it crashing repeatedly prior to booting all the way up.
The algorithm we currently use is we just keep reverting to older and older commits. That's good if the issue is that the most recent change on GitHub is what caused the issue, but we've had a number of times where the issue is external to SD.
In that case, what we need is for SD to pull in any new changes on GitHub, so it pulls in any fix that's pushed out. We probably should have it keep reverting, but each time it's going to revert, check to see if there's a new commit on GitHub. If there's a new version, then pull that and try it. If it's still rebooting, go back to reverting from where it left of. Repeat, continuing revert and to look for new commits.
 
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11:13 PM
@Makyen It is theoretically problematic to keep reverting, as let's say there is a issue fixed in SD in a commit x; and a moderator who desperately wants to make some damage can cause SD to revert prior to x and then actually cause damage. Maybe there should be some restrictions on how many times SD may revert.
 
@user12986714 we have a max crash limit
so even if it keeps reverting when it fully crashes X number of times it stops the reboot cycles
 
@SmokeDetector chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=hipm&room=110716 Asked multiple times; likely a spam seed
 
@SmokeDetector Without some stronger indication that this is an actual spam seed, I'm having a hard time seeing this as more than just a run of the mill question. It may be a spam seed, but that's certainly not clear to me at this time.
 
11:21 PM
@Makyen I also couldn't figure it out. But maybe we're missing something
 
@user12986714 without more evidence, NACK on the report. (E:NoEvidenceThisIsSpamSeed)
 
@SmokeDetector fp this for now
 
@user12986714 Registered question as false positive.
 
@SmokeDetector No evidence currently that this is a 'spam seed' as was the reason for the manual report. More information needed to determine if it's actually a spam seed.
 
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11:36 PM
Can anyone here check if this is anonymous teacher v2.0?
 
academia mods can but they can't disclose if it's the same guy
E:ModeratorRestrictions
 
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@user12986714 It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't fit the pattern, at all.
 
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