Charcoal HQ

2:00 PM

In short, I'll be setting up a tunnel between horsepower and network exit, and route traffic from Smokey (running on compute server) through the tunnel, which will enable it to reach the internet faster.

Machavity

Smoking in tunnels isn't a good idea, tho :P

iBug

OK, I'll set up some ventilation in addition :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Linked punctuation in answer (60): Strapi hierarchical category (or parent category or category with childs) by videopad on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

!!/watch- descargarvideopad\.com

metasmoke

2:06 PM

PR#4979 ("Spevacus: Watch descargarvideopad\.com") opened by SmokeDetector

Processed Meat

2:17 PM

0

Q: PSA: Please do not edit spam

We sometimes get somewhat on-topic questions or on-question answers that contain a link that is completely unrelated to the question or blatantly shoehorned in. Please do not edit these questions to remove the link, but just flag them as spam (or if things are difficult to discern, raise a custom...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (95): multilevel factor odds ratio - help SPSS ✏️ by meatduck on stats.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): The issue of masturbation with me? by rama on islam.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body (57): ML.Net Recommendation Item Column Problem by Linkario86 on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received on [MS] The issue of masturbation with me?

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

2:40 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Replace 'Available on backorder' message by Jan-Wouter Stigter on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How to anchor through .5 inch drywall/.75 inch wood/concrete block by EaOutlaw1969 on diy.SE

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected (78): Cannot solve this error in my TCP server code by XxXGhostXxX on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

SmokeDetector

2:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): Desplegar aplicación web angular+JAVA by codepalace on es.stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

naa- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (95): Android App Error when uploaded to Play Store , Before Uploading, tested everything was fine ✏️ by Muhammed Ameen P on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): Subir archivo a servidor Java ee by codepalace on es.stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): Tomcat - JSF 2.2 - NullPointerException al iniciar el servidor by codepalace on es.stackoverflow.com

Spevacus

We're wandering into spam territory here ^

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received on [MS] Subir archivo a servidor Java ee

tpu- feedback received

SmokeDetector

3:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): How to fix stud drilled from the side? by Daniel Wensley on diy.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly punctuation marks in answer (123): LEGO Safety: Known risks and how to avoid them? by yee on bricks.SE

metasmoke

fp- feedback received on [MS] How to fix stud drilled from the side?

naa- feedback received

SmokeDetector

3:40 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): Optimize multiple if statements by Hahahahah on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

metasmoke

3:51 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] multilevel factor odds ratio - help SPSS

fp feedback received on [MS] Android App Error when uploaded to Play Store , Before Uploading, tested everything was fine

metasmoke

4:08 PM

naa- feedback received on [MS] Cannot solve this error in my TCP server code

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Problem installing SEO plugin in WordPress by alifadaie on stackoverflow.com

Mast

!!/approve 4979

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 56167af (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4979 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601647607) (running on teward/Osiris)

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

tp- feedback received on [MS] LEGO Safety: Known risks and how to avoid them?

Mast

!!/approve 4977

SmokeDetector

4:19 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev a926331 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4977 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601642822) (running on teward/Osiris)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): Show that the transitive closure of R is in fact transitive ✏️ by Adam DeDobb on math.SE

Mast

@Spevacus @Machavity Looks like someone created a domain by accident, right?

Machavity

@Mast Not necessarily. Looks like the first use was a bitly obfuscation

SmokeDetector

4:34 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-latin answer (50): Two-color background by Srishailam on tex.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

NobodyNada

Google Translate:

> Srisailam Online Service Center Airtel Payment Bank Account will be opened and cash will be drawn. Cash will be deposited. Money will be transferred. PAN card will be applied. The phone will be recharged and the DTH will be recharged. Sand will be booked. New SIM card is available.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in title (1): Keras model.fit() giving out TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable by Rutvik Trivedi on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (45): Freeze or Locking First and Last Columns of Grid - ExtJS 6 by stack_r on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

4:43 PM

fp- feedback received

NobodyNada

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where diamonds are made, smoke is detected, and we break things by developing on production. 170k true positives and counting. This room is for Charcoal, which focuses on detecting and eliminating spam and rude/abusive posts on all SE sites. For more information, see charcoal-se.org/about. Handy links: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com, github.com/Charcoal-SE An amazing project [dev-on-prod] [flag-based-fraternity] [programmatic-crowbars]

sorry, I couldn't resist

Now where's my T-shirt

4

Mast

@NobodyNada I think we need a donation system set-up before there's budget available for that.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating words in answer (86): Did Marco Polo write about or bring back fireworks from his travels? by Banane on history.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (34): Android logcat: getting no fatal exceptions by firmware-file.in on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

4:58 PM

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

!!/watch- firmware-file\.in

metasmoke

PR#4980 ("Spevacus: Watch firmware-file\.in") opened by SmokeDetector

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): tikz \savebox only showing part of image by Rachel on tex.SE

Mast

!!/approve 4980

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

5:03 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev c316ba8 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4980 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601657943) (running on teward/Osiris)

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received on [MS] Did Marco Polo write about or bring back fireworks from his travels?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (34): Markdown + Latex for iOS by Hanxi Sun on apple.SE

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

NobodyNada

@Mast it's a Hacktoberfest joke

joel.net/how-one-guy-ruined-hacktoberfest2020-drama

Mast

@NobodyNada Oh, I thought it was a Swag reference.

SmokeDetector

5:06 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Whirlybird part by UK_Cambridge on diy.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer (173): I haven't eaten since yesterday by turtle man on ell.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

Mast

But that's pretty nuts.

NobodyNada

@SmokeDetector I'm going with R/A on this one; unregistered user, and "yes" doesn't answer the question

Mast

@NobodyNada Suspicion of trolling.

We'll see.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, toxic answer detected (158): Freshly installed Nginx in debian .it is runing. but i can not access the default webpage by ip in a browser by Pabitra Behera on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

5:08 PM

fp- feedback received

Mast

@SmokeDetector Selfie, but very poor quality. Not sure if it qualifies as NAA.

Perhaps the entire thing should be flung.

NobodyNada

@Mast Roomba'll get it now

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (34): Stuwkach, Poland listed in Obituary by laura bartnik on genealogy.SE

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

NobodyNada

!!/approve 4976

SmokeDetector

5:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 22ebc6d (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4976 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601642763) (running on teward/Osiris)

NobodyNada

!!/approve 4928

!!/watch jok3rshop

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev bf2acfc (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4928 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601027433) (running on teward/Osiris)

@NobodyNada That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body (70): Invalid `Podfile` file by Pramod Sri on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

naa- feedback received on [MS] Freshly installed Nginx in debian .it is runing. but i can not access the default webpage by ip in a browser

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): ¿Que jerarquia de ficheros utilizar en Firebase Cloud Storage? ¿hay alguna convención? by CristianDTツ on es.stackoverflow.com

NobodyNada

sd why

SmokeDetector

5:26 PM

[:55716347]
Blacklisted user - blacklisted for //es.stackoverflow.com/a/374549 (https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/253774) by the metasmoke API

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to pass an array value from checkbox to modal <input name=""> ✏️ by mudai on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

Victor VosMottor

5:42 PM

!!/scan ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/1185369/…

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor Post 1: This does not look like spam

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Black market premium data, all countries 1960-2010 by Chirag Ahuja on opendata.SE

metasmoke

naa- feedback received

Victor VosMottor

Masha ate x oranges, and Petya ate y oranges. Print on the monitor how many oranges both children ate.. Is it a spam or not?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body (96): Is it possible or advisable to turn off the default opt-out system in Twilio? by jafethdiazc on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

Mast

5:45 PM

@VictorVosMottor No, VLQ.

Spevacus

@VictorVosMottor Spam would promote a product, service, website, or what have you without disclosure. This question doesn't seem to do that. It also doesn't appear to be rude or abusive at all. It's just a lower quality question.

Victor VosMottor

@Mast, @Spevacus I mean spam in more "wide" meaning: trolling etc.

Mast

"never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

Spevacus

@VictorVosMottor Doesn't appear to be anything like that either, no.

S.S. Anne

stackoverflow.com is marked as a pattern-matching website...?

Victor VosMottor

5:50 PM

Hi S.S. Anne ;) I'm also kinda surprised. How's code-golfing btw ? ;)

S.S. Anne

I've stopped

I have better things to do with my time

NobodyNada

@S.S.Anne I think it's concerned by the "phone number" in the link text

S.S. Anne

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@S.S.Anne ✓ You are a privileged user.

10 Rep

@SmokeDetector How do I become privileged?

S.S. Anne

5:51 PM

ask

it's usually quite fast here compared to, say, SOCVR (where you have to wait for a room meeting)

SmokeDetector is just a bot

10 Rep

It says in the FAQ that I need to ping an admin.

lol

!!/whois admin

!!/whois admin

@VictorVosMottor I am aware of 8 admins. Currently in this room: tripleee, Makyen, thesecretmaster, Andy. Not currently in this room: ArtOfCode, Thomas Ward, angussidney, Undo.

@NobodyNada I am aware of 8 admins. Currently in this room: tripleee, Makyen, thesecretmaster, Andy. Not currently in this room: ArtOfCode, Thomas Ward, angussidney, Undo.

Victor VosMottor

5:53 PM

@10Rep ^

S.S. Anne

you're supposed to ping a human admin

like one of the above

10 Rep

@S.S.Anne Ok, I'll try that rn

S.S. Anne

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@S.S.Anne Pattern-matching website in body - Position 562-647: stackoverflow.com/questions/45315000/…

metasmoke

New metasmoke user '10 Rep' created

Spevacus

5:55 PM

!!/test-q 45315000

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus '45315000' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

> Would not be caught as a question.

Victor VosMottor

!!/bisect stackoverflow.com

Spevacus

Weird.

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'stackoverflow.com' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Victor VosMottor

;) ^

S.S. Anne

5:56 PM

!!/bisect stackoverflow\.com

SmokeDetector

@S.S.Anne 'stackoverflow\\.com' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

S.S. Anne

hmm

Victor VosMottor

I guess "twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number"

!!/bisect twilio

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'twilio' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

S.S. Anne

!!/bisect twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number

SmokeDetector

5:57 PM

@S.S.Anne 'twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Victor VosMottor

!!/bisect phone

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'phone' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Victor VosMottor

!!/bisect opt

S.S. Anne

!!/bisect phone-number

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'opt' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

@S.S.Anne 'phone-number' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Spevacus

5:57 PM

Y'all are wild.

Victor VosMottor

interesting

S.S. Anne

wtf is it, then?

Spevacus

!!/test-q 45315000/twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a question.

S.S. Anne

!!/test-q 45325908

Spevacus

5:58 PM

No idea.

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a question.

NobodyNada

!!/test example.com/45315000/twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number

SmokeDetector

> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Pattern-matching website in body - Position 0-68: http://example.com/45315000/twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number
Pattern-matching website in title - Position 0-68: http://example.com/45315000/twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number

NobodyNada

^

Mast

What the heck are you lot trying?

Victor VosMottor

5:58 PM

!!/bisect stackoverflow\.com\/questions\/45315000\/twilio\-ap\i-how\-to\-op\t-out\-a\-phone\-number

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'stackoverflow\\.com\\/questions\\/45315000\\/twilio\\-ap\\i-how\\-to\\-op\\t-out\\-a\\-phone\\-number' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

NobodyNada

@Mast they were wondering why a SO question URL was caught

Spevacus

To break poor Smokey, I guess.

Mast

@VictorVosMottor Victor, that's a regex. Not a test.

S.S. Anne

I'm not sure

I'm pretty rusty with old Smokey

Mast

5:59 PM

You can't bisect like that. did you want to scan instead?

S.S. Anne

it's been a while. And for that matter, I don't think I've used these commands before

NobodyNada

@VictorVosMottor Bisect only catches things in the watchlist or blacklist; that was caught by "pattern-matching website" which is a different rule

Mast

!!/scan stackoverflow.com/questions/45315000/twilio-api-how-to-opt-out-a-phone-number

SmokeDetector

@Mast Post 1: That does not look like a valid post URL.

Victor VosMottor

@Mast i thought maybe the whole link is watched...

Mast

6:00 PM

No.

SE links are not watched.

Victor VosMottor

@Mast ok

Ryan M

@VictorVosMottor that would be "Potentially bad keyword"

Spevacus

First idea was that the question number just so happened to match a watched number. When that wasn't the case, I was really curious what the "pattern" Smokey was seeing was.

And even my first hunch would've been wrong. It would've been Potentially bad keyword.

S.S. Anne

It was in SOCVR, which is why I hopped over here to try and figure it out

Mast

MS link?

Spevacus

6:01 PM

@Mast metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/267635

Mast

Hahahahaha

S.S. Anne

link to relevant part of SOCVR transcript: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50599804#50599804

NobodyNada

@Spevacus I'm pretty sure it was caught due to being a link with a 10-digit number and the words "phone number"

Mast

Ok, I get the confusion.

S.S. Anne

either way, false positive

Spevacus

6:02 PM

@NobodyNada Makes sense.

Mast

It basically tells you MS has found a link in the question-body.

That's it.

Ryan M

But yeah, uh, I don't think these are ever gonna be spam: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

Mast

something about that link may or may not be suspicious.

Victor VosMottor

!!/bisect phone number 45315000

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor 'phone number 45315000' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.

Mast

6:03 PM

You'd have to dive into the code @Victor

It's not on the lists.

S.S. Anne

oops, looks like my next message was caught as the reason: "So much spam"

:P

Victor VosMottor

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

Mast

It's in findspam.py I think.

S.S. Anne

hmm... my school blocks Charcoal

Ryan M

6:06 PM

Yeah, the findspam rules are...sort of inscrutable :-p

Spevacus

!!/scan meta.stackexchange.com/q/354891/622284

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus Post 1: This does not look like spam

Spevacus

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Victor VosMottor

@Spevacus It is obviously spam IMHO

S.S. Anne

/shrug

that's not it

Victor VosMottor

6:08 PM

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/354891/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): The stars of "Staying Alive" then and now: what happened to the actors 16 years after the premiere of the series? by Niko on meta.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

@VictorVosMottor I don't think it's spam. It definitely doesn't look like an acceptable question, and it's obviously off-topic for MSE, but I don't think it's spam...

Also, side note @Victor - we try not to feedback our own !!/reports.

S.S. Anne

I forget... what's the difference between tp and tpu?

Spevacus

tpu will also blacklist the user.

S.S. Anne

6:09 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Spevacus

I take back what I said. The first link looks really weird.

Victor VosMottor

@S.S.Anne tp - self vandalism, tpu -spam, offensive (it also blacklists)

NobodyNada

@Spevacus I'm wondering if that first link is spam -- looks like a pirate site

Spevacus

Yeah.

Falls under that whole "Movies" campaign.

S.S. Anne

@SmokeDetector spam

I agree

Victor VosMottor

6:10 PM

@Spevacus it may be spam because it may to try to advertise the movie i guess

Ryan M

Yeah, that was my logic. It miiiiiight not be spam, but it's a new user posting a wildly off-topic non-question with a sketchy link...I'm happy to call it spam.

Spevacus

@VictorVosMottor Yeah, I agree. Sorry for the confusion, thanks for the !!/report !

Victor VosMottor

@Spevacus ;)

Spevacus

I suppose we can also go ahead and...

!!/watch- dosmovies\.com

metasmoke

PR#4981 ("Spevacus: Watch dosmovies\.com") opened by SmokeDetector

Ryan M

6:12 PM

@Spevacus Yeah, wouldn't want any more of those posts getting Lost

2

Spevacus

You... I...

It's always you with the puns that leave me speechless.

Ryan M

I take that as a compliment :D

Victor VosMottor

!!/test-q phone-number

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a question.

Victor VosMottor

!!/test-q phone number 45315000

SmokeDetector

6:17 PM

> Would not be caught as a question.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body (57): Kentico User and Role Management by Racingman on stackoverflow.com

NobodyNada

!!/approve 4981

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 34adbe4 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4981 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601662315) (running on teward/Osiris)

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, shortened url in answer (59): Who maintains receipt for employee expense reimbursements? by user102975 on money.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

Spevacus

6:25 PM

That one's on the fast track to being on the blacklist.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): Quitar la barra de titulos de un JFrame que tiene JTattoo by LA MAGIA NEGRA on es.stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, shortened url in answer, blacklisted user (130): About to pay off car loan, how to maintain credit score? by user102975 on money.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

NobodyNada

!!/bisect 3kHoUSQ

SmokeDetector

6:33 PM

@NobodyNada Matched by (?-i:3kHoUSQ)(?#bit.ly) on line 23765 of watched_keywords.txt

NobodyNada

and that makes 5

!!/blacklist-keyword (?-i:3kHoUSQ)(?#bit.ly)

Spevacus

Well, that's five in the last 8 days.

!!/blacklist-website- hibuku\.com

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev c8a8373 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of (?-i:3kHoUSQ)(?#bit.ly) by NobodyNada) (running on teward/Osiris)

metasmoke

PR#4982 ("Spevacus: Blacklist hibuku\.com") opened by SmokeDetector

NobodyNada

!!/approve 4982

SmokeDetector

6:35 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev d995456 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4982 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601663664) (running on teward/Osiris)

Makyen

6:56 PM

@10Rep Do you want SmokeDetector privileges?

Makyen

7:09 PM

@S.S.Anne It doesn't actually take a room meeting to get SmokeDetector privileges in SOCVR. What it normally takes is asking the ROs, and then reminding them sometime later that they forgot to handle your request. That may sound a bit pragmatic, or indicate that we SOCVR ROs are ... less than diligent about tracking/handling such requests, but it's a fair description of what normally happens.

10 Rep

@Makyen Yes, I would like that.

Is there a test I have to take or something?

SmokeDetector

Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 4f39efc (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4964 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601387111) (running on Makyen/EC2-linux)

teward/Osiris: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d995456 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4982 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601663664) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 4f39efc (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4964 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1601387111) (running on iBug/Coral)

Restart: API quota is 10186.

metasmoke

Makyen/EC2-num02: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fc3d591 (Undo1: plan z) (running on Makyen/EC2-num02, Python 3.6.12)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (72): Passport photo editor (to take passport photo by myself) by user63033 on softwarerecs.SE

Makyen

@10Rep Nope. No test is required. While it is not required, it's helpful in this process if you create an account on metasmoke, or connect the one you've already created to your Stack Exchange/Stack Overflow account.

metasmoke

7:24 PM

New metasmoke user '10 Rep' created

10 Rep

@Makyen It says my account needs manual activation.

Makyen

@10Rep Yes, that was done by me shortly after that page was displayed. :)

10 Rep

Yup, I'm in. Thanks :D

Makyen

np. It will take a few minutes for the SmokeDetector privileges to be updated.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): What is the implicit meaning of Mal's riddle in Inception? by inception fanatic on movies.SE

metasmoke

7:28 PM

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

CI on 1334080 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 1334080 (Makyen: Add SmokeDetector privileges for 10 Rep) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)

Makyen

I've really got to remember

to wait for SD to finish rebooting before starting to post.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 10021.

Makyen

@10Rep I've added you to the privilege list for SD. You should run the !!/amiprivileged command to verify. It would be a good idea to read through the Feedback Guidance, SmokeDetector wiki, and SmokeDetector commands (in particular feedback).

If you haven't already read it, there's an Introduction to Participating in Charcoal.

You may also want to look at the userscripts we have available (GitHub), as they can be quite helpful, depending on how you want to participate. For viewing, feedback, and flagging in chat, I find FIRE and AIM to be the ones I use the most.

For flagging through the userscripts, your metasmoke account needs to be write authenticated with SE, which, if you haven't already done so, can be done from the authentication page and doesn't require you to also sign up for autoflagging, although authenticating is also a required step for signing up for autoflagging.

In addition, to enable manual flagging, the checkbox that says "Allow metasmoke to raise flags for my account" on this page also needs to be checked. If you have no entries in the "ID Site Count Flags Used Today" list at the bottom of that page, then autoflagging will still not be enabled, but manual flagging through the userscripts will be enabled.

Just so you know, we normally tell people when they are getting privileges that we practice the "ton of bricks" discipline method here: If you mess-up sufficiently, or consistently, we come down like a ton of bricks :-).

To quote ArtOfCode: "TL;DR: ton-of-bricks is mostly to say that we almost never need to enforce things because things enforce themselves through having a good community here. If it gets to the point that someone's enforcing something, something's gone badly wrong."

Spevacus

Sep 19 at 16:17, by Makyen

@SmokeDetector I've got to remember to wait for SD to finish rebooting, so it doesn't interrupt my monologue. :)

Smokey's just having none of it ;)

Makyen

7:37 PM

@Spevacus Yeah.... sigh

Mast

Type faster.

Makyen

@Mast I can't. That gets posted at the maximum rate chat permits.

Mast

Manually silence SD so you can speak freely.

Or, you know, create a 'Welcome new user!' page and link to that.

But that's assuming new users read.

Spevacus

They should :D

Mast

And while we can assume new users here aren't stupid, assuming they actually read may be a step too far with people we don't know that well.

Makyen

7:39 PM

@Mast That I could do, but it's easier to just remember to wait for both reboot messages. :;

Mast

@Makyen Apparently not :P

Since it keeps happening.

Makyen

@Mast Most do. Some don't.

@Mast I'll remember ... eventually. :)

Mast

We'll see what happens with the next user that comes in :D

Makyen

Yep. :)

NobodyNada

@Makyen cc @10Rep Note that "mess up" doesn't mean "make a mistake", it means "do something intentionally irresponsible/antagonistic". Charcoalers are generally quite friendly, forgiving of mistakes, and willing to help each other learn. We recognize that our systems and policies have quite the learning curve -- so don't be afraid of us :)

That being said, privileges in here are heavily trust-based, and in the event of an intentional and egregious breach of trust...well, that's where the ton-of-bricks comes into play.

Mast

7:43 PM

Which doesn't happen often, but we've seen some crazy things.

Spevacus

Really crazy indeed...

Mast

@10Rep When in doubt, ask. And feel free to scroll through the transcript of the past day to see how cases have been handled previously.

Just don't go too far back. Standards change. What used to be standard mode of operations years ago isn't necessarily relevant today.

At least, that's my experience.

10 Rep

8:00 PM

@Makyen Ok, thanks! I will do some research on how to use my new privileges.

Thanks to everyone!

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@10Rep ✓ You are a privileged user.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-latin answer (50): What is glooi in English? by Noor Almumthn on cooking.SE

NobodyNada

Google Translate:

> Qalam Hurra Magazine for Arabic Poetry 2-10-2020 (Qulbi Ould Shaqi); I love my love and my heart is in my heart. My heart is born. It plays in your world & its misery is the point of madness in a second. The universe wraps and wakes in the thickness of my heart. I hope that a stranger lives when the beloved chooses his love with you.

not really very helpful, is it spam for a poetry magazine?

10 Rep

@NobodyNada My first guess is Spam, but let me do some research before

NobodyNada

@NobodyNada also, that's even worse than trying to read human-translated poetry

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

Mast

8:08 PM

@NobodyNada On Islam.se, I'd leave it alone. On Cooking.se? Gibberish at best.

NobodyNada

Seems fair

Mast

Either NAA or TP

Spevacus

Considering it's from some... poetry magazine? I'm gonna side with you and go with TP.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Create a tree from a list of strings containing paths ✏️ by Whitts on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp- feedback received

NobodyNada

8:14 PM

!!/bisect West Lake

SmokeDetector

@NobodyNada Matched by (?<!Erik )west[\W_]*+lake(?:[\W_]*+finance(?:[\W_]*+home)?)? on line 18796 of watched_keywords.txt

Mast

lol

!!/unwatch (?<!Erik )west[\W_]*+lake(?:[\W_]*+finance(?:[\W_]*+home)?)?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 8907ce9 (SmokeDetector: Auto unwatch of (?<!Erik )west[\W_]*+lake(?:[\W_]*+finance(?:[\W_]*+home)?)? by Mast) (running on teward/Osiris)

Mast

14/3/11/0, too many FP lately.

Last successful hit 6 months ago, all 3 successful hits by same user in timespan of less than 2 months. If they come back, we'll find something new to target them with.

SmokeDetector

8:32 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Alternative Bluetooth Stacks for Windows 7 64bit ✏️ by twitch.tv Alginnon on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev a01fb34 (Makyen: watch: west[\W_]*+lake[\W_]*+finance[\W_]*+home(?:@gmail\.com)?) (running on teward/Osiris)

Makyen

@Mast Instead of removing it completely, I've updated the regular expression to only catch the TP. The regex was trying to cast too wide of a net, rather than be focused on the spam which we actually saw.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body (94): w eqewr qweWhy does get a tjuawa gw ✏️ by Wheel on stackoverflow.com

Daniel Widdis

@SmokeDetector v

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (71): Javascript code to copy text from multiple textboxes, by Praneeth Avvari on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp feedback received

SmokeDetector

8:44 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (34): Can I delete my public GitHub repository? by Mireli Eyyubzade on webapps.SE

SmokeDetector

9:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer (64): At command check incoming call is forwarded or normal call by farouq on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp feedback received on [MS] Can I delete my public GitHub repository?

tp feedback received

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Facebook Chat v5 design overlay issue by Alex Kuzmov on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

fp feedback received

NobodyNada

9:18 PM

I've noticed that we have quite a good number of code-change PRs in our backlog. Many of them are awaiting review even ready for merge but haven't been actioned yet. Is this simply due to a shortage of time for code reviews (since we no longer have quite as many people actively maintaining the SD codebase)? If that's the bottleneck, I would be willing to help out with code review/maintenance.

I don't have a ton of time to commit and I'm also not a Python expert, so I'm not necessarily asking for write access -- but perhaps we could create a GitHub project board or something so that I could categorize issues and PRs between e.g. "requires changes", "awaiting review", and "awaiting admin approval"?

cc @Makyen @ArtOfCode

Makyen

9:29 PM

@NobodyNada For me, it's a matter of blocking out time to review and test them. I've been intending to get to them for ages, well, largely since they were posted, really. Part of the problem was that the first time I did block out time to work on reviewing them, I ended up spending 9 hours that day (part of that time was off and on) working with the author of a couple of the PRs to fix bugs, improve the code, etc. (Actually most of that time was on one PR, with a couple hours on another.)

I'm hopeful / expectant that I will have time this weekend to work on them. I have been noticeably less crash-level busy over the several days.

Other people reviewing the code is definitely helpful. Frankly, the more people that review the PRs, the better the code will be.

10 Rep

BTW do you guys agree with my feedback to Smokey above? Just want to make sure I'm on the right track.

NobodyNada

@Makyen That makes sense. I'm set up to run test instances, so if I can help to take some of that load then I'm willing to do so.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer (203): Find the largest banknote by isfahanattorney on codegolf.SE

metasmoke

tpu- feedback received

NobodyNada

!!/watch isfahanattorney\.ir

SmokeDetector

9:34 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev d1cf42a (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of isfahanattorney\.ir by NobodyNada) (running on teward/Osiris)

Daniel Widdis

@10Rep You can always click the MS (metasmoke) link for that, and other posts, to see if people agree with you. Perhaps even review many of the recent fp, tp, and naa's. I found that really helpful when I started a few weeks ago.

All the posts require 2 feedbacks so if you're generally sure, don't hesitate to vote. You can check later to see if people agree. If you're not sure, just wait and see what others do.

10 Rep

@DanielWiddis Well, it seems as if people agree with me. 1 of them has reached 2 votes, and the rest need more votes.

SmokeDetector

10:10 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, toxic body detected (61): Standard error to standard output - is there other options beside redirection? ✏️ by fshaurya ambers on unix.SE (@Pandya)

metasmoke

tp- feedback received

NobodyNada

@SmokeDetector Suggested an edit, if OP rejects or rolls back I'll raise a single R/A flag

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username (90): Having a COM+ Issue in dotNET by user2719098 on stackoverflow.com

NobodyNada

sd fpu-

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Android fastboot oem unlocking by Eyyüp on stackoverflow.com

metasmoke

10:20 PM

tpu- feedback received

Rubiksmoose

@NobodyNada You may want to consider that RA flag since OP has doubled down

SmokeDetector

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NobodyNada

@Rubiksmoose Done, thanks

Rubiksmoose

what the heck is even going on there...

FWIW I've pinged the mods there.

NobodyNada

@Rubiksmoose Thanks.

Rubiksmoose

10:34 PM

o7

metasmoke

10:52 PM