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3:00 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Where can I find a map control for Delphi? by southp on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 
3:18 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Why linked in share button is not working by Shashi Kumar on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector K
FIRE is rekt for me again
One day. Just one day.
 
!!/watch govtjobalertindia\.blogspot\.com
 
@Glorfindel Added govtjobalertindia\.blogspot\.com to watchlist
Restart: API quota is 14259.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer ✓ You are a privileged user.
 
3:23 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer ✓ He is a privileged user.
 
@SmokeDetector k
ah, I don't think it accepts duplicate feedback
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
tp by M.A.R.
@EriktheOutgolfer Registered answer as true positive and blacklisted user.
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I think you need a lowercase k, not K
 
K used to work. Dunno if something changed
@Glor shed some holy light unto us
 
well, not sure about K, but I tried TPU right above and it didn't work
yeah, I think it should be case-insensitive
 
3:28 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Yes it did
Or Smokey wouldn't have responded
 
Smokey responded after I edited my message to lowercase tpu
(yes, he responds to edits now)
 
Huh, right
@EriktheOutgolfer Hey I didn't come from stone age
It was mostly medieval
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: What happens if you short-circuit a network patch cable? by Robert Pointer on serverfault.com
naa- by iBug
 
@SmokeDetector N
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'm new too :P he did that before I first became privileged IIRC
FDSC does the job for you automatically ;-)
 
3:31 PM
I'm not new
I'm too old
And they break and fix Smokey everyday, so two days you're out and you come back and see alien technology
 
yeah, I've seen you get progressively older over Chem.SE :P
 
ಠ_ಠ
Gets paranoid
Do you work for CIA, or FSB?
 
FSB...?
 
@iBug The new KGB I think
Oh, you're that Epik guy @Erik.
 
no way
have you confused me with anyone?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer It's not supposed to be case-sensitive
 
@iBug It seems to be
 
well, then TPU should work, no?
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ LOL. It is he.
@EriktheOutgolfer I'm looking into it.
 
And my initial K didn't work either
 
3:35 PM
@SmokeDetector WHY
 
@iBug He's Epik in Russian and Erik in English
Who invented Cyrillic? Ugh
 
that's Greek Έρικ, "Epik" sounds too German and, well, epic
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Russian? I suppose it's Greek
 
@iBug Case in point
@iBug Greek is so Cyrillic to me
Right, that's rho
 
I use it in most sites, since I can't be an Outgolfer anywhere else but PPCG :P
 
3:36 PM
Blame Cyrillic for wrong language detection
 
well, I guess you can't type it easily without a Greek layout anyway
 
Cyrillic is said to be derived from ancient Greek
 
Those Russians
 
more like Koine Greek, no? Ancient Greek was the Greek used in, well, Ancient Greece, not the Byzantine Empire
 
@iBug Plot twist: Putin is Plato's grand^57 child
 
3:37 PM
And ... the Latin P and R are both derived from Greek Rho, and for unknown reasons, P had its current sound, and its original sound was deferred to R
 
Etymology HQ
 
sd WHY
 
@EriktheOutgolfer [:45771952] That's not a report.
 
Whhhhhhy? WHHHHHYYYY? :'(
 
3:41 PM
well, it's supposed to lowercase all messages it processes
(or uppercase, but shouting internally isn't pretty :P)
 
Fix pushed. Wait for pull
 
CI on 198eb78 failed.
 
dun dun dun...
 
CI on 4be82e1 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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3:50 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer [:45772211] That's not a report.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer [:45772215] That's not a report.
 
@SmokeDetector TpU
 
@iBug That message is not a report.
 
Glor uses iOS confirmed
("where is he a mod?", you may ask)
 
3:54 PM
Moderator of Apple.SE uses Android? Wow!
 
CI on b924f8f succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
no, I mean, I can infer that Glor uses a phone
 
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@EriktheOutgolfer huh, how?
 
> Glorfindel (From READi): naa-
 
3:56 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer what's that?
 
unless he's using an emulator for iOS apps (why would you want to do that), READi is an iOS frontend for MS
 
never heard about that... did Glor write it himself?
 
NobodyNada
you can research that info there, no need to do the job to ask here :P
(I use it when I see some weird app name I don't usually see over MS)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I must have forgot this page :)
 
well, with little discoveries like this one, but for reported posts, I might be able to infer if they're spam on a case-by-case basis
 
4:01 PM
interesting
 
inferring undisclosed affiliation? well, if you can make a strong claim that there's undisclosed affiliation, then you can flag the spam
for example, a weak claim plus [?&]utm in the URL makes, IMO, a strong claim (note: people have differing opinons)
 
!!/test-a KeyGetter
 
> Would not be caught as an answer.
 
↑ Worth watching? Just had a wave of non-link answers from this user in the space of a few minutes
 
5 posts across two sites, all basically one-line answers summarized as "Try KeyGetter for retrieving Windows product keys".
Indeed looks like spam to me.
 
4:12 PM
certainly spam, no way those are software recommendations
 
Aye, was coming rapidly to that conclusion
He's had a couple of comments to follow guidelines; I'm inclined to give a short period to see/update in response
 
Okay then, let's FIRE ZE MISSILES
 
Heh :P
Or that
(I was on the fence)
 
we can also still wait, but I'd doubt it
 
just manually report and tpu-, no?
 
4:14 PM
Yeah, my expectations are low
 
Even if they stopped, I don't think they'd post useful content ever
 
Aye, they're verging on NAA
Fair enough
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): Does Windows 10 use the same key when installed with a Win8 key? by Fred Green on superuser.com
 
4:15 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): Windows 10 re-installation, can't skip product key screen? by Fred Green on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): Retrieving Windows 8 product key by Fred Green on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): Finding windows 7 and office keys WITHOUT software by Fred Green on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer on Retrieving Windows 8 product key [MS]
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
4:33 PM
Thanks guys :)
 
4:44 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body: [[Live@FrEe]]## Oleksandr Usyk vs Murat Gassiev Fight Live Stream World Boxing Super Series by belaqalex79686 on drupal.SE
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
4:55 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: How to negotiate with landlady in a shared home who flat out says "no"? by marria on interpersonal.SE (@AJ)
tpu- by Makyen
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
I'm starting to get tired of hazingfun.com spam
basically, *fun.com in general
 
5:14 PM
!!/watch dr\.obho(?:greatspell(?:@gmail.com)?)?
 
@Makyen Added dr\.obho(?:greatspell(?:@gmail.com)?)? to watchlist
 
!!/watch live4k-sports\.blogspot\.com
 
@Makyen Added live4k-sports\.blogspot\.com to watchlist
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sometimes I'm surprised such obviously spammy URLs aren't caught by other patterns or reasons in general...
 
It's not that easy to come up with a pattern that will fit all the combinations that people might think of, particularly when not wanting an outrageous number of FP. We adapt when we see new trends.
 
5:21 PM
yeah I know, the element of surprise remains though :P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Keto Blaze has a lot of growth potential by Docusmith on politics.SE
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
!!/test keto blaze
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/test keto
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
5:35 PM
unacceptable!
 
!!/blacklist-keyword keto\W*blaze
 
should we !!/watch keto?
 
@ByteCommander Blacklisted keto\W*blaze
 
I think just keto has too many fps
 
CI on 0b6db26 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
5:37 PM
by keto I mean \bketo\b or similar
 
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I think blacklist items get word-matched anyways
 
a specific term was blacklisted
I'm not sure if "keto" (as a word) is anyhow related to anything else but pharma spam
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Might be used legitimately on biology.se or fitness.se
 
5:41 PM
> SocketOpenSSL
 
no, I don't think !!/watch keto will catch e.g. SocketOpenSSL
 
dunno, but there are around 250 legitimate results, mostly on health, chemistry and cooking
(see SE search link)
 
Yea
The MS search dealie includes SocketOpenSSL in search esults for keto linked above :)
 
It may show up in MS, but I'm pretty sure it turns into \bketo\b smokey side.
 
^
well, not exactly \bketo\b
(regex doesn't support \b for some reason...)
 
5:47 PM
The number of legit hits is low enough such that it doesn't preclude a !!/watch., particularly given that there are ~4 times as many TP hits in MS.
 
@Makyen um, to me that looks more like ~1180 times :P
 
@EriktheOutgolfer vs the 289 results in a SE search? (some of which won't match \bketo\b)
 
oh that's what you meant?
also, 289 isn't that much if we consider the years SE has existed
 
Yes. We haven't been watching keto, so we don't have the data.
Let's just find out. That's part of what watching is for. If the FP rate is too high, we can remove it.
!!/watch keto
 
5:54 PM
@Makyen Added keto to watchlist
 
@Makyen ah...I guess I should've stated that opinion when I was thinking about it
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Gadgets My history from girls by Deller Hadllton on apple.SE
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: QuickBooks Online maximum number of items within “in clause”? by user1521635 on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Makyen
 
6:21 PM
@SmokeDetector ignore-
@SmokeDetector ignore-
 
7:17 PM
@SmokeDetector why
 
@Mithrandir Title - Offensive keyword: private show
 
@thesecretmaster The post itself might be borderline, but the user account seems genuine enough to me (few years old account, has another okay answer from January). A warning comment is in place, that is enough in my personal opinion.
This is marginally spammy … you’re essentially making a sales pitch, offering no solution except to use your product. — Tom Zych 16 mins ago
Please have a look at How not to be a spammer and adapt your post to include detailed instructions, while continuing to clearly disclose your affiliation. Otherwise your post might get removed. — Byte Commander 1 min ago
We also have disclosure of affiliation, and the person has other genuine web presence such as a linked github and twitter etc.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body: CBS™ Juventude vs CRB Live Streaming 2018 by Raz E Bul on drupal.SE
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
7:43 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
7:56 PM
hm, I'd say \w{6}fun\.com appears quite often over Drupal.SE. unfortunately, it can't be detected like that, since it's always a redirect
 
something something halflife
 
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
halflife checks for redirects
 
8:01 PM
ah...I wonder how to use it
 
Nobody knows. It just runs itself and we hope that we don't somehow anger it.
 
ah, doesn't it have a command line like ChatExchange?
 
It does, but nobody quite knows how it works ;)
 
who made it?
 
trip
 
8:06 PM
and...doesn't he know how it works? :P
 
*shrugs* that's a possibility
 
it's not like he has ceased activity
 
Anyway, you could pop over to Charcoal Test and run @pulse notify \w{6}fun\.com
You could gather some data like that.
 
hm, I guess its repo is on the Charcoal organization
like, if I have any chance of seeing more about it in the sources
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Is it appropriate to ask my client for more money? by Edward Severinsen on freelancing.SE
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
8:12 PM
Although PulseMonitor appears to be deaf at the moment, so good luck getting anything to work at all.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer, toxic answer detected: How do I convert date/time from 24-hour format to 12-hour AM/PM? by someone on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
8:40 PM
API quota rolled over with 12176 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.
math: 233
stackoverflow: 139
superuser: 53
physics: 46
askubuntu: 36
apple: 34
english: 32
unix: 25
serverfault: 14
security: 14
drupal: 14
electronics: 13
mathematica: 11
worldbuilding: 11
wordpress: 10
codegolf: 10
gaming: 10
travel: 9
android: 9
ru.stackoverflow: 9
stats: 8
graphicdesign: 8
dba: 8
es.stackoverflow: 7
ell: 7
french: 7
cs: 6
mathoverflow.net: 6
webapps: 6
photo: 6
tex: 6
gis: 6
civicrm: 5
bitcoin: 5
softwareengineering: 4
academia: 4
chemistry: 4
scifi: 4
ethereum: 4
rpg: 4
mechanics: 4
 
10:06 PM
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Why does updating a domain's nameservers take so long? by Adebayo chike on stackoverflow.com
naa- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
!!/watch sweetupdate\.com
 
@Makyen Added sweetupdate\.com to watchlist
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@Mithrandir uh, after searching the sources a bit, it looks like halflife doesn't even know what "notifications" is
like, does it even have commands?
 
10:23 PM
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Gadgets My history from girls [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Retrieving Windows 8 product key [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on http://wellnesscool.com/kings-gold-keto/ [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Redirect directory to a subdomain [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on TRIAL@>> vipsupplement.com/kings-gold-keto [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Vista/Server 2008: BOOTMGR is missing [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on So pick food that surely encompass [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on brain waves. It turned out that when the [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Best Guide for Hp Printer Technical Issues [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on What do You Mean by Crazy Bulk? [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Tkinter and random numbers [MS]
tp by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Post hangs when sending large files [MS]
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto Are you just going through the MS Review queue? Or, doing something in addition to the MS review queue, or something else?
I ask because I thought that the MS review queue was only supposed to present posts with < 2 feedbacks (potentially also those with conflicting feedback). All of the posts which I checked of those you just gave feedback on already had > 2 feedbacks, and were not conflicting (possibly some were < 2 feedbacks or conflicting, but certainly not close to all of them). So, I'm just checking to see if the MS review queue is working the way that I'm expecting it to, or not.
It's not bad for you to be giving additional feedbacks, I'm just wondering if the MS review queue is making it happen, or not.
 
10:41 PM
not Tet, but I've seen posts with >2 feedbacks still in the queue
 
Hmmm...OK.
 
10:58 PM
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11:11 PM
@ArtOfCode Is the MS post review queue supposed to present posts to users when there are > 2 feedbacks? I was under the impression that MS review only continued to present a post to users until such time as the post has "enough" feedback, where enough was defined as 2 feedbacks. [Arguably, it should be until >=2 feedbacks and something to show there's a consensus; e.g. > 50% of the feedback is on one type (TP/FP/NAA), the type of feedback with the most feedbacks isn't tied with the next, etc.]
However, from the feedback provided above, and response from @EriktheOutgolfer, it appears that posts are presented with, at least, <=3 feedbacks. I'm only checking to make sure that it's working as intended.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Toxic answer detected: Basic Graphics library for gcc/g++ on par with graphics.h by Alex on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Basic Graphics library for gcc/g++ on par with graphics.h by Alex on stackoverflow.com
 
^, ^^ question is off-topic
^^ uh, is that naa- or fp-?
 
11:34 PM
It doesn't appear to answer, but it's not something I'd flag as NAA, because, on it's face, it doesn't look like it's not an answer. In other words, you'd need context to know it's not an answer, which a moderator might not look for if they just get an NAA flag.
 
11:49 PM
naa- by ByteCommander
 
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