Charcoal HQ

terdon

10:02 AM

@Glorfindel The main point, IMO, is: if the post is useful, then it should be kept.

Dan Hulme

Yes, I don't want to delete helpful content posted by experts.

If we're going to do that, we might as well shut up shop now.

iBug

Android mod!

terdon

We don't mark spam to punish the user, we mark it to keep the site clean. So someone who takes the time to repeat content that they have written elsewhere, and just also includes a link to their blog, is helping the site, not harming it.

4

A J

Got 3 flags declined on Android.SE. :/ @DanHulme

Dan Hulme

hello

terdon

10:03 AM

And yes, hello soot-covered folks!

2

Dan Hulme

@iBug Thanks for adding the disclosure so that he got the idea.

iBug

@terdon That's why I retracted my spam flags and edited disclosure in.

terdon

@iBug Nice one!

iBug

terdon made it right.

Dan Hulme

@AJ Yes. Please don't flag helpful answers as spam.

A J

10:04 AM

It had the promotional links

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terdon

@AJ But was it useful? If so, why not remove the links for example?

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terdon

Who benefits from a useful post deleted as spam?

iBug

@AJ See terdon's message.

A J

10:05 AM

@terdon Ah! Okay.

iBug

We only benefit if noise and garbage is removed. Not malformed but potentially useful answers.

terdon

Also, because this can't be said enough, and just to be clear: you people ROCK! You do great work 99% of the time. It's just that we only ever notice the 1% you miss, and that's when we come and whine at you. :P

iBug

If a user keeps adding promotional link (but helpful), add the disclosure for them and flag for mod attention.

Glorfindel

If it's useful content, why not edit out the links? Because I'm worried this might set a precedent.

iBug

If it's totally garbage, then flag-nuking is fine.

terdon

10:07 AM

@Glorfindel Of what?

Dan Hulme

The reason this was so shocking to me is that we had an expert user, which our site is really short of. He made some mistakes, and was corrected, and learned to do the right thing. But he was nearly permanently banned from the site because of spam flags.

Glorfindel

of people posting less valuable content with promotional links.

iBug

@Glorfindel I still prefer a case-by-case judging for link removal VS addition of affiliation.

terdon

@Glorfindel Why "less valuable"?

Glorfindel

less valuable than the content we're currently discussing.

terdon

10:08 AM

And if the answer is bad, then flag as VLQ, downvote etc. No need to bring out the big guns (spam flags) immediately.

iBug

@DanHulme If you could, please dispute the flags next time. I believe people here don't meant offense.

Mithrandir

@iBug No? Why?

Dan Hulme

@iBug I have already done this.

iBug

Thanks!

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Mithrandir

10:09 AM

We shouldn't get special treatment because we're Charcoal...

paper1111

!!/pull

Mithrandir

If they're not helpful treat them like any other user.

iBug

That's true but...

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paper1111

uhhh I think that raiditem is MY fault

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10:10 AM

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Dan Hulme

wait, does "dispute the flags" mean dismiss as "helpful"?

No

Dismiss as "disputed

That isn't a thing.

yeah

10:10 AM

It means mark them as "disputed", neither helpful or declined.

iBug

So neither the flagger nor the flaggee gets punished.

Mithrandir

That's what "clear spam flags" does.

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Suraj Rao

its actually a 100% copy paste of article.. wouldnt it count as plagiarism if we couldnt prove affiliation?

terdon

@iBug The flager is not punished. How would that happen?

Dan Hulme

10:11 AM

I dismissed them with a custom message explaining that helpful content that also includes a link for more information isn't spam.

iBug

@terdon If a red flag is marked as helpful, I believe the flaggee will receive some kind of punishment sooner or later.

I don't know much about that. You mods should know.

terdon

@iBug Yes, sorry, I meant the flagger. The flagee is punished immediately, which is precisely why spam flags should be used with caution.

Marking non-spam as spam is far, far worse than allowing borderline spam to pass.

iBug

Flagger gets banned from flagging for up to a week if they have raised too many declined flags.

Mithrandir

I don't know if we're all on the same page with what "dispute" means here...

iBug

That's kinda punishment.

Dan Hulme

10:13 AM

Anyway, now I have to go write a mod message to this guy explaining what happened and that what he's doing now is OK.

iBug

@Mithrandir It's their fault. "disputed" is a special term on SE.

terdon

@iBug That isn't much of a punishment. Especially when compared to what happens to people whose posts are marked as spam incorrectly. They get a -100 and can be banned.

Mithrandir

@DanHulme What? Why? That's not really what mod messages are for...

Dan Hulme

@iBug it's not a punishment for the flagger - it's a relief for the mods who have to handle the flags :-)

Mithrandir

That should IMO be a comment.

iBug

10:13 AM

Wait for me to get quotation from MSE.

A J

@DanHulme I hope this doesn't result in flag ban.

terdon

@Mithrandir Of course it is. When someone has been punished with no warning and unfairly, we have to go and apologize.

Suraj Rao

@iBug it counts against flagger when it is rejected not disputed

terdon

I've had to do this too.

Mithrandir

@terdon Sure, but why a mod message?

terdon

10:14 AM

@Mithrandir How else?

Mithrandir

A comment?

A mod message leaves a permanent mark.

terdon

@Mithrandir Not a mark. Not all mod messages are bad.

Mithrandir

This is probably better suited for the TL though

iBug

Found it

Mithrandir

iBug

10:15 AM

From this answer: Note: For spam and "rude or abusive" flags, do not mark the flag as helpful, as this may cause the post author to be penalized. Instead, clear the flag, which will mark it as "disputed".

Mithrandir

That will mark them as "disputed", not helpful or declined.

Dan Hulme

@AJ Would that be a problem? I don't believe you're very active on Android Enthusiasts.

A J

@DanHulme I do flagging from here. But that's not much too.

terdon

@iBug That talks about the author of the post being penalized, not the person who cast the flag.

Dan Hulme

13 flags ever

iBug

10:16 AM

@terdon Same for both sides.

See the prior part of the same paragraph.

terdon

@iBug No! Not at all!

iBug

If the user flagged it in good faith, but you don't think anything should be done, dismiss the flag as "helpful."

terdon

One gets a loss of reputation, a permanent mark on their record and a possible ban.The other has a flag rejected and might eventually have to take a break from flagging. That's not a big deal.

JAD

@AJ a single declined red flag doesn't get you flag banned

iBug

Keyword: good faith.

Mithrandir

10:17 AM

@iBug That doesn't apply to spam flags though

spam flags are different

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iBug

So that's why I say disputed.

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A J

@JAD No. That's 3 actually.

terdon

@iBug We can't do that for spam flags, dismissing as "helpful" causes the post to be deleted, and all the other spam penalties.

JAD

10:18 AM

@AJ ah

didn't read that far up

;)

iBug

Spam flags, if raised in good faith, should be dismissed as "disputed"

That's what I meant.

Sorry if some of my words aren't quite clear.

@terdon I meant the whole paragraph.

terdon

That isn't really an option.

Mithrandir

Yes it is, actually...

A J

@DanHulme The ones posted in here. All spams and R/As

Mithrandir

If you press that button it'll mark as "disputed".

terdon

10:19 AM

That would require us to open the page, go to the mod menu, and then choose the clear flags thing. When handling dozens (or hundreds) of flags, that's frankly too much effort.

And for no benefit other than protecting someone's flag record which isn't an important metric anywhere.

iBug

So my opinion is, if a flag is raised in good faith, it shouldn't be declined. If it's a red flag, mark it as disputed so that no one gets punished. Otherwise mark as helpful.

Dan Hulme

@AJ Is it any real loss to you if you can't do that for a site where you hardly ever do it and have no other participation?

terdon

@iBug They're all raised in good faith, and I want people to think before casting spam flags.

A J

@DanHulme Hmm. Never mind.

iBug

@terdon Well that's another valid reason.

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iBug

I wonder if you can leave a message for a disputed flag.

you = any mod.

Mithrandir

nope

terdon

We can decline with a message, as @DanHulme did.

iBug

oops...

A J

They can mark helpful with a message too.

iBug

10:22 AM

Can't leave message on disputed flags?

Mithrandir

No, because "dispute" isn't a normal flag action.

iBug

Fine.

ArtOfCode

ack

someone point me at the post in question

terdon

@ArtOfCode this user: android.stackexchange.com/users/157935/arpan-shah

iBug

...why does he start to get upvotes???

Dan Hulme

10:24 AM

oh hey ArtOfCode

paper1111

@iBug why not

Dan Hulme

I had to upvote to clear an automatic answer ban

terdon

@iBug Because i) they were useful answers and ii) it was the only way to remove the ban that the flags caused.

paper1111

Only android.stackexchange.com/questions/105197/… seems VLQ to me of this user, others were useful (TBH I'm not active in that site so never mind)

ArtOfCode

Ooookay. So I tend to agree with the "is spam" decision here, but I also agree with a mod decision to override that and go for helping the user instead.

The original posts were the definition of undisclosed self-promotion; that's spam, and it gets flagged.

iBug

10:27 AM

@paper1111 That's not even NAA, either.

@paper1111 The real answer is as short as it currently is, so it's not link-only.

ArtOfCode

If mods think the user will be receptive to being guided and are willing to do that, then declining (preferably disputing, but it's not like that matters a huge amount) is the right decision.

Mithrandir

!!/report interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/9571/31

terdon

@ArtOfCode Who benefits from that? Personally, I will first inform the user of our rules and only flag as spam if they don't adapt. When the answer is more than just a link, of course. When they've repeated the content from their blog and just linked to it, I will simply ask them to always include their affiliation.

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terdon

Deleting as spam helps nobody and actively harms the site by removing useful content.

iBug

10:28 AM

That's what "disputed" is meant for.

terdon

@iBug No. Sorry, but no. Spam flags are the nuclear option. They should be used with care and the only way I have of educating flaggers is to reject the flag.

Dan Hulme

Yep, and we do the same even when the post is advertising a product. It's common for people to post a link to their own app without disclosure, and we always give them a fair chance to disclose (and the benefit of the doubt if we're not sure whether it's their own app) before we spam-flag.

ArtOfCode

@terdon In cases like this, yeah, you're right. In a majority of self-promotion cases, though, the user is just there to promote their blog, not to contribute helpfully. You can tell those users to include disclosure all you like and they won't - that's why they get flagged and deleted.

terdon

I am a mod on 3 sites and deal with dozens of flags a day. I very simply don't have the time to open each flagged post separately and go through 3 sub menus only to protect someone's flag ratio.

@ArtOfCode First you tell them though. You can't blame people for following rules they don't know. If you've told them and they insist, then it's a clear cut case, yes.

iBug

@terdon Meet halfway. Dispute the flags for the 1st time, and decline them ever since.

Dan Hulme

10:31 AM

@ArtOfCode I don't think that attitude fits the SE ethos. AIUI, the reason we have suspensions and not permanent bans is because we approach each user with the default expectation that if we give them a chance, they can improve their behaviour and become valued members of the community.

terdon

@iBug How would I know if this is the first time? It isn't as simple as you seem to think. All I see is a wrong flag, so I treat it accordingly.

ArtOfCode

@terdon ah, but here I echo your own argument back to you: we see hundreds of spam posts a day and we simply don't have time to do that in every case. So we go with the majority case. And yeah, sometimes, like now, that means we get it wrong.

terdon

@ArtOfCode Which is fine. As I said above, you guys do great work 99% of the time. The remaining 1% means that flags will be rejected. No big deal.

Henders

looks up AIUI...

Mithrandir

(As I Understand It)

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10:32 AM

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ArtOfCode

@terdon yeah, declined flags ain't the end of the world. If mods are willing and have time to dispute instead of decline, great. If not... eh.

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@SmokeDetector k

@ArtOfCode Exactly.

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A J

10:33 AM

@Henders User Interface of Artificial Intelligence. :P

ArtOfCode

With the number of flags flying around this place a decline here and there isn't gonna get anyone flag-banned

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iBug

@Henders Agricultural Innovation Under Investment

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Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-keyword v\W?tight\W?gel

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@Mithrandir Blacklisted v\W?tight\W?gel

Henders

Gee, thanks guys :P

iBug

Maybe you mods can have a better discussion in Teacher's Lounge...

Mithrandir

Nah, this is applicable here - it relates to us & spam flags, after all

iBug

And when arguments start, ~~a CM can hit everyone with hammers~~.

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ArtOfCode

10:35 AM

@iBug Basically what @terdon said. We're good, but we're not perfect. We're all going to get a decline here and there, but it's not about to get anyone flag-banned, so no big deal.

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iBug

@ArtOfCode That's true. We need education, too.

So go on, parse HTML with regex, if you must. It's only broken code, not life and death.

terdon

@ArtOfCode And, admittedly, you're as close to perfect as makes almost no difference.

iBug

It's only declined flags, not life and death.

terdon

It's just that given the volume of posts, that 1% amounts to a large number. It;s still a teeny tiny percentage though :)

@iBug hey, it's perfectly possible to parse html with regular expressions:

652

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You just have to be tchrist or someone else with that level of knowledge and more time than sense of self preservation :P

iBug

10:40 AM

@terdon HE COMES (less aggressive)

terdon

heh

Dan Hulme

All I wanted to say was please don't spam-flag helpful content. If it's useful but there's something wrong with it (such as lack of disclosure), alert us with an "in need of moderator intervention" flag. We can interact with the user, get it fixed, and turn them into a good contributor.

6

iBug

@DanHulme Starred.

38 mins ago, by terdon

We don't mark spam to punish the user, we mark it to keep the site clean. So someone who takes the time to repeat content that they have written elsewhere, and just also includes a link to their blog, is helping the site, not harming it.

terdon

Anyway, I have to get back to work. Happy flagging everyone!

Mithrandir

\o/

iBug

10:43 AM

@terdon Special thanks, terdon.

Mithrandir

@iBug I've got 167 declined flags, never been banned yet ;)

iBug

@Mithrandir 167 declined... How long is the time span?

Mithrandir

4 years

No, 3 and a bit

I've been a member since... October '14?

iBug

Member of SO since Feb '16, but wasn't active at all.

I got 88 in a year.

I used to flag very aggressively on Android, which makes up half of my declined flags.

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iBug

10:47 AM

We don't mark spam to punish the user, we mark it to keep the site clean.

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Henders

I'm getting that on a T-Shirt

Mithrandir

don't we wish

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Mithrandir

oh, AU is approaching the 7-character post ID

iBug

10:51 AM

@ArtOfCode What do you think about whitelisting .py, .htm and .java as TLD?

@Mithrandir They did it even slower than Jon approached 7-digit reputation :)

ArtOfCode

@iBug yes on SO. Leave 'em not-whitelisted on other sites, they shouldn't really be showing up there

iBug

@ArtOfCode How do I implement that?

ArtOfCode

@iBug the check method gets passed a site parameter that you can use

iBug

What's the content of site?

i.e. what should I compare it to?

ArtOfCode

good question :)

@iBug it's the hostname

iBug

10:54 AM

if site == 'stackoverflow.com':
if site == 1:
if site == whateer:

ArtOfCode

the former

iBug

Great. I'm going for it.

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iBug

I added .sh as well.

It was previously forgotten.

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ArtOfCode

10:57 AM

shush smokey

A J

@Henders Keep the one you like. :P

paper1111

7 declined on SO, 1394 helpful

Probably because I usually just flag NAAs by Natty

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Mithrandir

sd - k

iBug

I wonder if it's good to have syntax like
`sd 4(- k)`

Which will evaluate to sd - k - k - k - k

And then we will have developed a new language: SmokeDetectorLang

sd 3(- 4(- k) - 2(2- k)) - 2k 2(- k)

Henders

11:05 AM

Ha, until the instances start talking to each other and flag everything as spam :P

iBug

@ArtOfCode CI done

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iBug

@ArtOfCode Sorry I wrote the code in a hurry. It's fixed now.

Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-keyword brute/W?gains

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@Mithrandir Blacklisted brute/W?gains

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iBug

11:16 AM

CI passed on Pull Request #1544

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iBug

@SmokeDetector why

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iBug

The email is becoming ridiculously amusing.

SmokeDetector

Merged SmokeDetector #1562.

iBug

11:18 AM

@SmokeDetector Post - Keyword interested with ridiculous email -Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png

Mithrandir

That's... going to need some refinement, isn't it.

iBug

!!/test interested -Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png

SmokeDetector

> Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title
----------
Title - Keyword *interested* with email Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png
Post - Keyword *interested* with email Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png

iBug

Actually, the problem is that the AT in the email can be replaced by anything (except dot)

!!/test interested a-b-c-d.png

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

:42482967 > Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

> Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title
----------
Title - Keyword *interested* with email Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png
Post - Keyword *interested* with email Ad-Estimate-Daily-Reach.png

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> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

:42482967 > Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

Mithrandir

11:21 AM

@SmokeDetector what's up with that?

iBug

@Mithrandir I'm going to inspect the ~~HTML~~ regex.

OK I got it.

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iBug

estimate -> estim@e

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iBug

!!/test interested aatt.png

SmokeDetector

11:23 AM

> Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title
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Title - Keyword *interested* with email aatt.png
Post - Keyword *interested* with email aatt.png

iBug

Sadly it doesn't seem to be something easy to solve :(

Mithrandir

!!/test interested estimate

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

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iBug

@Mithrandir You need an AT and a DOT.

!!/test interested xxxatxxxdotxxx

SmokeDetector

> Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title
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Title - Keyword *interested* with email xxxatxxxdotxxx
Post - Keyword *interested* with email xxxatxxxdotxxx

iBug

11:24 AM

So you can think the RegEx is this:

[Anything] (text AT or symbol @) [Anything] (text DOT or symbol .) [Anything]

The problem is, the words AT and DOT aren't separated from anything else.

ArtOfCode

Did someone say email regex?

(?:[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")@(?:(?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[(?:(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.){3}(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])+)\])

^ standards-compliant email regex

iBug

@ArtOfCode It wasn't me :)

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: You must tackle Brute gains yield for some weeks by Heing19 00 on graphicdesign.SE

@iBug It's Magisch's fault.

tpu- by J F

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, blacklisted user: Python + Selenium: fill text input in the modal form by Renith Harsan on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)

tpu- by iBug

tpu by iBug on Merging PDF files [MS]

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iBug

So any word matching the wildcard *at*dot* (where * means 1 or more instead of 0 or more) would be caught as "email".

!!/test You guys may be interested in Aviation.SE

SmokeDetector

> Bad keyword with email in body, bad keyword with email in title
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Title - Keyword *interested* with email Aviation.SE
Post - Keyword *interested* with email Aviation.SE

iBug

11:32 AM

😂😂😂

@SmokeDetector Can't you be more ridiculous! Hahaha......

@SmokeDetector For the record, the "email" Avation.SE is parsed as Ava-at-ion-dot-SE.

JAD

lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: PDF and sharepoint integration by PDF Wizard on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)

tpu- by iBug

iBug

@SmokeDetector TP but not because of email.

SmokeDetector

@iBug Registered answer as true positive. If you want to blacklist the poster, use trueu or tpu.

paper1111

!!/watch sharepointpdfwizard\.com

SmokeDetector

11:41 AM

@paper1111 Added sharepointpdfwizard\.com to watchlist

iBug

@paper1111 Beat me to it.

paper1111

"features.Very" Yeah that's an email </sarcasm>

iBug

Avation.SE

Math.SE

Stats.SE

paper1111

The regex should be changed to catch stuff like
Av at ion dot SE (ie with the spaces)

SmokeDetector

CI on 3d466df succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 3d466df (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of sharepointpdfwizard\.com by paper1111 --autopull) (running on bwDraco/Linode)

Restart: API quota is 12368.

iBug

11:46 AM

A famous software, Mathemaica, is going to attract some friendly fire.

CalvT븃

Only if it includes a . or dot in the wording

iBug

@CalvT븃 Are you interested in Math.SE?

Title - Keyword *interested* with email Math.SE

@CalvT븃 A dot can be very common.

(please blame angussidney)

A J

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@AJ It's JoErNanO's fault.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: you will surely impress mutually the results by Heing19 00 on superuser.com (@iBug)

tpu- by iBug

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