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Undo

@quartata Looks like revision fetcher didn't even run on metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102852

@SmokeDetector It did run on this one, though

also, apparently log backup has been borked, so I have no logs about that

quartata

There's like three different possible cases for failing without creating a flag log, none of which would create logs so

but since it works on some posts and not others I'm tempted to point the finger away from "no one has API tokens"

Nisse Engström

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quartata

3:15 PM

Current best theory: we made an API boo-boo, and no one was able to get flag options at all

Check for long-running threads and/or maybe try and cast a manual flag

we need better logging for this

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Nisse Engström

!!/test mindsmetricks.com

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> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

Nisse Engström

!!/watch mindsmetricks\.com

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@NisseEngström You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1531 for you.

quartata

3:18 PM

@Undo do you have htop?

actually better idea: do you have pry

Undo

htop, yes

pry, maybe

What I do know: On metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102849, flagging code works as expected up to the revision check, which must have failed for whatever reason

A flag option thing would have logged an error

quartata

oh no

that's rhe first active record query

Undo

no

it's not, by a long ways. Conditions are loaded first.

quartata

in the thread it spawns, yes

Undo

no

quartata

3:22 PM

I bet it's not checking in connections

Undo

In the same thread, we load sites/conditions/users and validate, then run the revision check

quartata

Are you not referring to return "Duplicate post" unless Post.where(link: link).count == 1

Undo

post.fetch_revision_count, :76

Although that one is a possible failure too, but why the heck would it just start doing that now?

If I had logs we could clear that one up fast.

quartata

say

what if Metasmoke ran out of quota

Undo

unlikely

quartata

3:26 PM

you can check that pretty easy

Undo

actually, impossible. Revision count get worked on the last report.

and we're still in the same window

quartata

hm

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quartata

Did the posts ever get send_not_autoflagged?

Undo

no idea

remember the thing about no logs?

Kinda inconvenient :(

I'm tempted to just fix the logs today and see if it happens again tomorrow night

(gotta run, be back in a few hours)

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3:36 PM

Restart: API quota is 13099.

quartata

hrm. all right.

wait actually

@Undo Half-Life or anyone using AIM would have logs

Yo, anyone here using AIM who hasn't reloaded their tab in a while?

actually scratch that. if it didn't send a not_flagged then it wouldn't be scanned at all by HL, I'll check the charcoal test room

@Undo confirmed that HL did not scan it, which means send_not_autoflagged never ran.

you should run htop to see if it's still running, I can't envision any scenario where it could have not done that without raising an exception

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Mithrandir

5:15 PM

@Art What happened with the email addresses for Channels? Was that ever figured out?

Jarko Dubbeldam

@admins, any chance I could get reviewer on MS?

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Mithrandir

!!/test supplementexamine.com

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Mithrandir

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Jarko Dubbeldam

@SmokeDetector k

^^ both the same user

Nisse Engström

!!/watch studymanger\.com

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@NisseEngström You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1532 for you.

J F

!!/whois admin

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@JF I am aware of 5 admins: tripleee, angussidney, Andy, ArtOfCode, Undo. None of them are currently in this room. Other users in this room might be able to help you.

quartata

5:36 PM

rip

Jarko Dubbeldam

:(

I'll bother them at a later point, no hurry

ArtOfCode

@JarkoDubbeldam bother away

Jarko Dubbeldam

oh hi :)

I was wondering whether I could get reviewer on MS :)

ArtOfCode

@Mithrandir still where it was, doesn't need to be sorted until we get the channel and can figure out how it works

@JarkoDubbeldam done

Jarko Dubbeldam

thanks

quartata

6:06 PM

first day of trying on SO, half way to mortarboarding

I believe

I'm gonna make it

ArtOfCode

you have 6 hours

@quartata I'm not seeing this - looks like a pretty normal day of autoflagging at /flagging/logs

slightly low, maybe, but it is a weekend

quartata

3 hours ago, by Undo

@quartata Looks like revision fetcher didn't even run on https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102852

conversation starts here

I would say at least a good third of posts are failing completely somewhere in here (no flagged or not_flagged messages broadcast)

You can tell by looking at Half-Life's output: see how it's skipping IDs: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/65945/charcoal-test

You wouldn't see it in /flagging/logs because there were no flag log fails

Undo left so I can't tell whether the autoflagging threads are zombie'd

ArtOfCode

we spawn new threads for each post, though, so that wouldn't cause more than one failure

quartata

Correct

I mean if they're all still alive and stalled

Because post.send_not_autoflagged is not getting called

and I can't think of a branch where that would occur without an exception being raised, which triggers an automatic fail

Undo

@quartata What am I looking for?

quartata

6:20 PM

htop

look for threads

Undo

metasmoke has four passenger threads

looks about normal

quartata

hm ok

would spawned threads in the app show up like that

Undo

probably

But (1) Passenger spawns a bunch of them anyway, because it's a concurrent handler

And I see at least 6 posts that 'should have' been flagged

quartata

it's not just those

it's also ones that wouldn't have been flagged, but never got a not_flagged message sent

that's why it's bigger than it looks

the HL output is a decent way of seeing it, if the ActionCable logs are bork

Undo

Link me to one?

never mind I can't read

quartata

6:26 PM

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102856

Go into the Charcoal Test room, you can see all the skipped IDs

Undo

what the heck is that even o.O

quartata

I don't know but that's besides the point

it goes from 2849 to 2851 to 2854

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ok quick question here

what is the deal with "not even a little bit easier to read"

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/18575406

this is obviously a little bit easier to read

hell, I even threw in a missing bracket

SO seems to hate suggested edits

I've never seen a formatting edit, no matter how substantial, that doesn't get at least one reject

Undo

Anywhere as big as SO will have its share of bizarre reviewers

quartata

it's not like these people have an unusually high number of rejects

and I'm not kidding when I say "every"

Jarko Dubbeldam

@quartata I guess they disliked the horizontal scroll bar?

Undo

6:31 PM

Mods and OPs being able to retroactively reject/approve edits helps a lot

... if we happen to see it

@quartata stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/18575802 ;)

sometimes you happen to draw some bad reviewers, sometimes some good ones.

quartata

I guess that one won the lottery

Undo

yup

quartata

granted I'm also operating off a biased source

Undo

sometimes you happen to draw a reviewer that wants to make a big deal out of something on meta. Those are fun.

quartata

i.e editmonitor

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6:44 PM

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DavidPostill

^^^ Undisclosed affiliation to the OPs blog, which promotes his own software.

quartata

6:58 PM

all right I think that's enough answers for now

hopefully some people will remember to accept rather than just upvoting

I think the worst part so far is someone just flat out deleted their question after I gave an answer

ArtOfCode

@quartata welcome to SO

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ArtOfCode

8:28 PM

a wild undo appeared

Undo

rawr

Mithrandir

Indeed, that dog looks rather.... nah.

Undo

actually, this dog was terrifying if you gave it something to shake

toys lasted about half a day. She would try to get the squeaky thing out as soon as possible, then try to eat it.

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Mithrandir

sd f

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8:32 PM

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Mithrandir

@doppelgreener @Magisch @AjayBrahmakshatriya you may want to retract your autoflags ^

doppelgreener

@Mithrandir thanks!

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Disputed the rest for reasons.

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8:44 PM

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ArtOfCode

inb4 mod nuke

DavidPostill

:)

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quartata

9:17 PM

tfw OP accepts a later answer that's slower and code-only

ArtOfCode

obviously

quartata

anyways, about 50 rep to go

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9:36 PM

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quartata

I think the worst part of all this is that people post questions and then their example just flat out works

Like I have no idea what you want

Robert Longson

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quartata

those are the same question

M.A.R.

10:00 PM

Interesting article about the growing scam slash spam industry in India

Actually, this was the on my chat I thought it'd be relevant

Robert Longson

@quartata wrong syntax the first time. !// vs !!/

quartata

oh I missed that one

M.A.R.

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!/!/!

quartata

10:27 PM

1 hour 30 minutes left to get 20 rep

can I do it

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quartata

I did it

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quartata

11:35 PM

I'm not sure why I'm still getting rep, weird

I guess some of this rep comes from accepts not upvotes

anyways, 242 rep today

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