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11:00 AM
Hey @tripleee
You're helping Tay with deepsmoke, right?
 
Hmm fair enough.
 
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11:18 AM
@Magisch I piled together a simple demo using the original PHP-based API and left some suggestions, but "helping" is perhaps a bit of an overstatement
!!/watch shape2spatial\.blogspot\.com\.es
 
@tripleee Added shape2spatial\.blogspot\.com\.es to watchlist
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I guess he is on a plane right now if you are wondering about his whereabouts, but this is pure speculation
 
He said 5 hours, so he's probably going to leave in about half an hour or so I'm estimating
 
@tripleee I hope he has time to tell me what he expects me to say
I don't like to walk into this unprepared
 
if he is flying from Toronto to LAX it looks like the flight is delayed but I have no idea actually where he is coming from or going to
 
11:27 AM
And I wager he'd like me to know what I'll be saying beforehand too
 
@Magisch I completely agree, we should understand what he wants well in advance
and you should know approx now whether it's something you want to commit to
 
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but if he is just about to take off this probably cannot happen until tomorrow
 
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@tripleee tis' ok, the conference is only on tuesday
 
@SmokeDetector google translation looks like complete nonsense, flagging as vandalism
 
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11:51 AM
@art FR for Redunda (you weren't pingable in SOBotics): Could you modify the bots.json route to also return whether the bots are alive or not? I need that for a bot I have.
 
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NobodyNada had said he'll do it, but looks like he's too busy, so could you please try to implement that?
 
@AshishAhuja you got a link to the repo? I might be able to have a look
 
@angussidney sure, one sec.
 
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11:56 AM
@tripleee yeah I'll do it
It's not that big of a deal I got school on wednesday so I have no issue beeing asleep the day
 
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@AshishAhuja looks like the data will need to be requested from across models, which is beyond my limited Rails knowledge sorry :)
 
sure, np!
 
@SmokeDetector k
@Magisch I imagine it would be nice to know whether he wants you to dance naked in front of a webcam before deciding
 
@tripleee I don't have a webcam either way, so it'll be voice only
And I'm not going to say anything I'm not comfortable with, so he'll have to decide at the end whether he wants to or not
 
12:00 PM
@Magisch sure, just sayin' the scope is still unknown
 
let me amend that. I'll be happy to attend and talk about charcoal a little bit in a way that is respectful to the project and its admins
I assume that'll be okay with tay, but I'm not going to do just whatever
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Healthy Weight - To Know How To Achieve It by anetanoie on askubuntu.com
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I assume I'll have time to discuss the scope with him before
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: Being reborn with your memories - Knowledge is power, but how much? by readcivil on worldbuilding.SE
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Just had a re-read of what he said, I have a feeling they might want to know how it works currently, so you might want to make sure you're familiar with that
 
12:03 PM
@SmokeDetector topprowellness.com 2/2 over 42 days, registered to "Andrea Preiss" in Ghaziabad, Uttar Pradesh via Godaddy on July 26th
 
@angussidney I know how SD and metasmoke work currently, if that's what you mean
if it's deepsmoke I assume he'll be able to tell me beyond what I already know
But I'll brush up on the wiki and current events before and take notes
 
a useful technique is to decide what you want to say and try to get that into the script in advance
 
though I guess one of the reasons he wants a Charcoal representative is to answer questions from the audience, maybe
 
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12:06 PM
Thats okay
 
i.e. spam comes in via the realtime websocket, it is queued up for processing, with thresholds set per-site (to conserve API calls), the API is used to fetch data about each post, every post is then chucked through a bunch of regexes that make decisions based on post body, title and username, then it gets recorded in MS, posted in chat, and we burn it with fire
 
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I can answer questions about most things on here
Despite me not being a python dev I'm actually pretty familiar with how smokey does things
ish
 
Yep, you'll be fine
 
you could still think about two or three talking points you want to wedge into your answers
 
12:07 PM
I want to mention some people that contribute here if that's possible
You know, to give some exposure to them
 
!!/watch djmp3find\.net
 
@tripleee Added djmp3find\.net to watchlist
 
I'll have to check that back with Tay and then ask the individual people for permission
 
we should probably have a pattern for MP3 sites in India
 
@tripleee What about a pattern for mp3 sites in general
 
12:09 PM
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@Magisch yeah, that's probably what we need
 
@Magisch I've only been here for less than a year so I don't think I have a really good picture of who the original contributors were -- I get the picture Normal Human was the originator of this project and that e.g. Hichris was pretty active earlier but this is without checking back in the commit history
 
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oh, the first commits are by Manish
 
12:10 PM
@tripleee Manishearth, Undo and HiChris were around at the start
 
@tripleee Think it was Undo, Original Human, Art and manishEarth
And HiChris
 
Normalhuman was around before I came, but I understand he was a master at regexes which is why he's got so many commits
@Magisch nah, Art came later on
 
Andy has some commits before Art shows up in the Git history
and ProgramFOX turns up around the same time as Undo1
 
@Magisch You can always say something along the lines of 'our team is made up of a bunch of people from a variety of backrounds - some are moderators on the sites, some are developers, and some like to spend their time sitting back and nuking spam. While maintaining so many regexes sounds like a hard job, many hands make light work, especially since you don't really need to have much technical knowledge to help out'
 
Nice
 
12:14 PM
@angussidney nice
 
!!/watch readcivil\.com
 
@tripleee Added readcivil\.com to watchlist
 
@tripleee Charcoal was actually originally a bunch of random tools that did random stuff with SE - reminding you of posts to vote on, queueing up flags to make it easier on mods, something else which flagged spam, and of course Blaze, which is the only one that is still in use today
Smokey came along later, after a few more people joined
 
I only joined a year and a half ago or so
 
@angussidney and Metasmoke is a lot newer still
 
12:16 PM
So I'm technically still a new member
 
If you're wondering how I know this, it's because I was bored one time and started reading the transcript
 
@angussidney (-8
 
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Although back when I joined we didn't have FDSC yet
 
@tripleee the original pinned message asking people to sign up for MS was still up when I came to charcoal, so that tells you that it was very new
 
12:17 PM
And neither a way to list feedbacks per user
 
@Magisch you're the father of the userscripts :P
 
Not really I never wrote a single one
 
@Magisch but I have a feeling that we woudn't have thought to make our own API if you hadn't have suggested it
 
I think art had the idea for the API
after I asked him about making a way to auto feedback when flagging
In actuality when it comes to programming I never contributed much except website blacklists and a couple of patterns
 
12:19 PM
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector f
has disclosure
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in body: stop reason = signal SIGILL: privileged instruction by Ä°brahim Halil Kiliçarslan on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
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!!/watch rehlat\.com\.sa
 
@tripleee Added rehlat\.com\.sa to watchlist
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Jual obat aborsi bandung daa3414a obat telat bulan bandung by Danang on academia.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
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12:31 PM
Night all o/
 
@Magisch Looks like it's already been said, but I'll say it too. Go for it. I imagine you know enough about the system to answer most questions.
 
@angussidney o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link following arrow in body, potentially bad keyword in body, repeated URL at end of long post: carehealthportal by Linda Ronaldo on graphicdesign.SE
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That said, I do think it'd be more than fair for you to know what you should expect. I know I'd like to be prepared for something like this. If you don't hear back with enough time to prepare, it might be more appropriate to do this at the next conference.
 
@Andy I'll decide that when I hear back
I definitely don't want to go into it unprepared
And I want to know what Tay will be speaking about
 
12:35 PM
Oh, I just made it further down in the transcript. You already mentioned that too :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Problem with Non English(Farsi, ...) subtitle by Etienne on apple.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Valuable Mumbai Call Girls Service by ruhioberoi on meta.SE
 
@Andy Are you okay with being mentioned by name as one of the admins, btw?
 
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Sure, fine with me.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Slim Tech Cambogia account in your amount by bsaraoy on askubuntu.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: followed by a few stretches, is fine. Activation by user734059 on askubuntu.com
 
12:39 PM
@SmokeDetector tempted to mark as FP
 
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!!/watch ruchikarao\.com
 
@tripleee Added ruchikarao\.com to watchlist
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, link following arrow in body: Rancho Santa Fe homes protected a ton of its rich building by edithcfrench on askubuntu.com
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!!/watch ruhioberoi\.com
 
@tripleee Added ruhioberoi\.com to watchlist
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: Tharlax Rx Review Summary by Feak 19 on drupal.SE
 
12:59 PM
!!/watch corintdesign\.tumblr\.com
 
@tripleee Added corintdesign\.tumblr\.com to watchlist
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pushed a small tweak, CI #10194 in progress
 
Good thinking
 
@Henders there's a similar tweak to bad_keywords underneath but we should probably find more
 
Yeah, that seems like a sad way to miss a post if we've gone to all the trouble of blacklisting. Defeated by a tab
 
1:12 PM
@Henders tabs are not really much of a problem in practice, though some posts do contain them
 
Aye
 
but the spam URLs often have the keyword with a dash like http://example.com/product-which-sucks
and of course some of these products have quirky names which include random punctuation etc (reminds me of squeal splat forms)
hmmm, stuck again?
!!/pull
 
Hmmm
 
Yay!
 
1:17 PM
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Yeah so \W is [^a-zA-Z0-9_], right?
 
looks right, yeah
 
Interesting
 
1:34 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: newsupplements2017.com/slim-tech-cambogia/ by user254695 on apple.SE
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!!/notify 11540 arduino.stackexchange.com
 
@Majenko You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on arduino.stackexchange.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com
 
hey @Majenko
 
Heya
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: macOS Sierra 10.12.6 not saving Screenshots by FRGFH on apple.SE
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1:46 PM
@Majenko new to charcoal?
 
Yep. Can't stop to chat now though, gotta run.
 
@Majenko o/
\o/ 8k flags
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: What do I need when I want to work as freelance developer in Ireland (Dublin)? by mobilunity on freelancing.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: How can I create a "Serial to Ethernet Connector" in c++? by Jacopo Gardin on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
SpaceX launch in ~8min: spacex.com/webcast
 
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1:52 PM
sorry Nick, chat is hard
 
Hey @Undo
 
Oy
 
Would you object to being mentioned by name as one of the Smokey admins?
 
Yeah, ideally keep my real name out of it ;)
 
1:53 PM
alright
 
It's easy to trace back, but I like to keep it a little obscure
 
tpu- by Mithrandir
 
@SmokeDetector k
changed my mind, that's kind of unrelated to the question + no disclosure
 
@Undo I plan on mentioning the admins when / if I get called in for Tay's talk on tuesday
And I want to have permission before I mention people - rights to privacy and all that
 
Yep, sounds good
@ArtOfCode metasmoke deployed
 
2:01 PM
@Undo \o/ I managed to catch lift off
I was kind of hoping to see the hurricane from this.
Touch down
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Static Linking After the Fact by James on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to statically link an existing linux executable? by James on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
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3:43 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: \\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\$1\\‌​$1\\$1\\$1 dsd by Igar on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
3:57 PM
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4:11 PM
Eugh missed the launch...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Cannot modify header information when i am login headers already sent by Alok Kumar on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Send bulk email from SQL Server 2008 by vudjsjjfdjds on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
4:32 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: Number to text conversion (Check writing application) by sankoh on codereview.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: www.xaddition.net/femme-youth by dhfdfhdgbdfgdfg on graphicdesign.SE
 
5:07 PM
O/
 
\o
 
SD k
AoC o/
 
5:30 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: save polygon id from google maps plugin in another table rails by abhishek Sharma on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Language problems with Symfony site in Google by Naimlog on webmasters.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: "Add a field" to CONTACTS by Haryy A Hole on android.SE
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7:05 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: HTML and PHP Contact form with email template by theHTML Coder on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
7:17 PM
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7:42 PM
So MS review feedback getting posted here is new
Is that intentional?
 
@quartata that's a few weeks old already
 
9:19 PM
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9:35 PM
I'm on vacation without cell service and almost always without WiFi so I can't chat well, but FYI there's another MSO discussion about offensive posts flagged as spam triggering review audits:
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Q: What should be done about offensive posts flagged as spam?

Nick APreviously I've come along this audit, the content of which is clearly highly offensive. And as stated in this answer: We do not create review audits from posts that were flagged as offensive Part of the be nice policy is: Inappropriate language or attention. Avoid vulgar terms and any...

Would it be worth mentioning that we frequently flag offensive stuff as spam, with Pops' approval?
 
10:03 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: We are HIRING PHP LARAVEL DEVELOPER by Ebrahim Alrashed on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
tpu by John Militer on Send bulk email from SQL Server 2008 [MS]
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title: fxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx by faizy on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
11:17 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Updating old values of C2 in D2 as drop down by Harish Reddy on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Auto click with VBscript by a person on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: How to mute all sound in a page with JS? by pxajclajxckl on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: difficulty funding Ethereum wallet by user8570279 on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
 
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