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11:00 AM
@bummi hmm, it'd be really hard to implement, and I don't really think it's that necessary anyway. These checks are just to make sure that someone doesn't report a person by mistake. If they're trying to abuse the system, our standard threat of 'don't do it or we'll drop a (metaphorical) pile of bricks on you' will suffice
 
@angussidney Interesting.
 
I did not get the limit until now, let's assume 10 bad posts are found, anyway every single of let it be hundreds post will have to be reviewed manual .... or are you talking about engaging only if there are less then 10 posts?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: When Tooter's trip finally became a catastrophe Zyflex by musicmakes on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Henders
 
@bummi the allspam command would error out if there are more than 10 posts, yes. The idea is that you'd then resort to manually reporting. Alternatively, we could add a !!/allspam-force command, similar to what we have for the blacklists currently
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Ultavive Garcinia Review –Is It Legit Weight Loss Formula by Ultaviv Garcinia on superuser.com
tpu- by ByteCommander
 
11:12 AM
@Henders I don't think this happens often enough
The "largest" use case of !!/allspam I ever saw was like 5 or 6 or something
 
Urgh, I hate mathoverflow when you're using the SE api
 
with people that have more posts there are usually some legit ones in between so !!/allspam doesn't apply
 
It's the only site where you have to explicitly say site=mathoverflow.net rather than say site=stackoverflow
 
@Magisch I remember of a user with about 100 spam posts, but these are rare indeed
 
11:13 AM
Were all 100 of those spam and undeleted?
 
tpu- by angussidney
 
sounds like a job for a CM to deal with personally if its that many
 
@Magisch Or a mod, surely?
 
@Henders definitely not a user
 
11:15 AM
Agreed
 
If someone's spam is disguised or unclear enough that they survived to post 100 of them without getting post banned or ip banned
then imo there should be a moderator or CM looking into that its actually spam and needs destroying
last thing we want is that we as charcoal decide to completly and utterly flag bomb someone who may not have been a spammer according to others all along
 
@Magisch for sure
 
@Magisch a very good point you've got there, not something that I would have thought of
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: musclebuildingbuy.com/vcor-male-enhancement/ by doghphis on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Magisch
 
@angussidney I'm pretty good at being the negative nancy backdrop to all ideas :D
 
11:23 AM
@Magisch brother in spririt :) o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Copying an artboard with a clipping mask by YTYHTU on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +6 more: gomusclebuilding.com/vcor-male-enhancement/ by rihgwhik on askubuntu.com
 
How come this was autoflagged with reason weight 167
 
@Magisch some people have conditions set that low by the looks of it
If you set the weights per-site, it's possible to use weights much lower while keeping the accuracy up
 
@angussidney Hmm. According to the sandbox, Weight 167 is still 99,52% accurate
99,58 even
 
I have mine set for 280 on all sites, then 180 for the 6 or so main spam sites
 
11:27 AM
I have mine at 180 across the board
99,74% is better then I do by hand on average
so I'm fine with that
 
tpu- by suraj
 
Urgh, redoing this command is going to be harder than I thought. There's so much pre-MS legacy code related to allspam users :/ And I need to remember to handle API backoffs etc
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Hyprshred-Super Strong Muscle Supplement by peterjennings on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
tpu- by Henders
 
@Magisch Once it exists, anyone will be able to help. While we're building it, to help you need to know rails or do front end development to help Art and I. But if you want to help CrowdRescue generally, let me know. There's probably a non-technical way you can help.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: How to display blogger posts as a grid? by awidiot on webapps.SE
tpu- by Magisch
 
11:40 AM
@thesecretmaster If you can find something I can do from germany
sure
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@bummi Blacklisted user.
 
@SmokeDetector copied content from another answer
 
@Magisch Do you know rails and/or front end web development? If not, I'll check in and probably will have something you can do by the end of the day (eastern time).
 
@thesecretmaster I have been doing some html / javascript stuff for work
mostly with jquery
rails, nah.
 
11:43 AM
OK. If Art and I need something there, I'll let you know. I'll also find something non-technical.
 
Thank you
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Why is there an alarm clock badge on the YouTube app? by judikartuqqonline on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer: Command-line util to batch resize PDF files by Tradekare on softwarerecs.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Java R Interface (JRI) Setup by Hans on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector damn
I read the whole thing to verify it's not some poorly c&p keyword spam, and damn
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
11:50 AM
Body - Position 217-230: tradekare.com
Post - Username similar to website
 
@Magisch and that's a looot of money
 
@angussidney 6500 pounds is like 8000 euro ish?
sizable chunk of money
I feel for the son even though I have a hunch this is made up for internet brownie points
Then again it's too out there to be, probably
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, +2 more: www.biotestosteronexrtry.com/pure-male-power/ by enlomen on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Magisch
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: Does Lycopene Increase Size? by jimenirhea on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Magisch
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to design and export a 360° photo for Facebook by Sheikh Nashir Swapon on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by paper1111
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: How to use 12voip.com (Betamax) SIP service for calling and sendingSMS? by ruthjohnson on askubuntu.com
 
12:05 PM
Night all o/
 
tpu- by thesecretmaster
 
o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: Is there root for us cellular lg k8 us375 by Gottlasz on android.SE
tpu- by Magisch
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: needsupplementhelp.com/vtl-male-enhancement/ by user256619 on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, mostly non-Latin answer: Can the split screen in Mario Kart 8 be removed? by Molana Haji Ali on gaming.SE
tpu- by Magisch
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Conditioned confront by lifting the pores and skin by taello juri on workplace.SE
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Amabella Allure - Get Natural Glowing Skin by esseollard on askubuntu.com
tpu- by suraj
 
@Magisch I need an email to invite you to the slack where this is happening. If you don't want to put it in chat, you can email me at thesecretmaster@stackexchange.developingtechnician.com
 
12:19 PM
this message will self destruct now (you can still read it as mod)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, mostly non-Latin answer, blacklisted user: Can the split screen in Mario Kart 8 be removed? by Molana Haji Ali on gaming.SE
tpu- by Magisch
 
@Magisch OK, you should get an email soon-ish.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: It tightens the skin in an effectively way by ruthbredford on apple.SE (@CalvT븃)
 
@thesecretmaster I'm gonna be off work and home in about an hour and a half
 
tpu- by Magisch
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title: mumybear.com/primaliftskin/ by Murray Husband on astronomy.SE
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: amazfitpace.org/alpha-muscle-complex/ by rose polini on astronomy.SE
tpu- by suraj
 
12:40 PM
Anybody here that can quickly help me out with this one? interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/4453/… I'm still too new to charcoal/smokedetector
 
@Tinkeringbell gone, only needed one more flag
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: amazfitpace.org/alpha-muscle-complex/ by ndjr on askubuntu.com
tpu- by suraj
 
@PeterJ Thank you :) Should we add the user/link to the smokedetector in some way?
 
@Tinkeringbell Actually I probably should have put it as a SD report first, now there's no way for me to see the user. But a lot of YouTube spam seems to be pretty much one-off.
 
@PeterJ Okay :) I promise I will get better at this soon :) Bye for now!
 
12:53 PM
Just a heads up, I have no idea why Smokey threw an error here
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: SYSTEM HDD WIPEING Windows/Linux by Selva Kannan on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: how to download multiple photos from instagram? by sandros on stackoverflow.com
 
!!/alive
 
@Henders Yup
 
1:08 PM
@Machavity Thanks. Weird one - @ArtOfCode
 
1:23 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title: Read More@@@ - reshamshah.com/ by nqwiiupx on askubuntu.com
tpu- by suraj
 
TIL ctrl+r in bash. Wish I discovered that sooner :p
 
Spam link, solicitation for bitcoins: freebiebitcoin.com
 
1:54 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Pregnancy and flying by lipon on health.SE
tpu- by Henders on Pregnancy and flying [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Clonazepam and pregnancy by user11483 on health.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Horlaxen Männliche Verbesserung? by thodisito on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Henders
tpu- by Henders on Clonazepam and pregnancy [MS]
 
2:11 PM
@SmokeDetector Raised a mod flag because this user looks to be identical to the one here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/40151549#40151549
Same spam link
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer: Formatting in Python not displaying correctly by Javier on stackoverflow.com
 
2:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Notepad++ text alignment by john on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by ByteCommander
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Single language site other than English by Antony Shaji on drupal.SE
 
@quartata User is not blacklisted (109451 on math.stackexchange.com).
 
!!/location~
 
@quartata teward/Solar Flare
 
ah
@SmokeDetector @ByteCommander this was vandalism not R/A, don't blacklist
 
2:44 PM
hmm... can't see the post any more but probably. Guess I (and 3 others) slipped there.
 
it was edited during grace period it looks like so I guess you wouldn't have been able to tell
full disclosure I know the user in question
 
3:16 PM
Does someone know if there is there a mod chat on android? Looks if I would have to retract a spam flag otherwise and raise an individual to report a suspected voting fraude
 
@ByteCommander User is not blacklisted.
 
BUT YOU JUST SAID SO!
Something is severely borked with the user blacklists
 
@ByteCommander tried rmblu two times before ...
 
3:28 PM
I did it another time as well.
 
@NobodyNada btw not sure if you were aware (since I forgot) but the PPCG FireAlarm is still running and seems to be doing a decent job, have you retrained it recently?
 
@quartata Nope, it's running the same filters as it was before
 
we're probably getting less in-between posts then I guess
One thing I notice is that it doesn't like Kolmogorov complexity challenges where it's like Output this: <code block of ASCII art>
since the code block is stripped I presume
 
@quartata I think the biggest thing is that I fixed the duplicate report bug
Because a bad challenge or question would be asked and then closed and deleted, but a good challenge would get answered and edited, repeatedly bumping it
and there was a bug that caused it to re-report those, to Mego's annoyance
And there was another bug that made unnotify not work, to Mego's even greater annoyance
 
haha yes I remember that
 
3:37 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Can you anyone help in how to make app load offline in webview by Apurv Ajay Kumar A2K on stackoverflow.com
 
sd why
 
@quartata [:40153767] Body - Position 940-951: wixsite.com
fp- by ByteCommander
 
umm
oh
ok
So that's actually a website hosting company
we can't blacklist the domain as a whole
 
Right, there's been a bunch of spam using them though
 
just make a pattern matching one then, if it's like blah blah blah PRODUCT blah blah.wixsite.com
It has like 15 FPs
 
3:40 PM
39 TPs, 15 FPs
 
that's not nearly good enough to justify blacklisting all of them
 
Right, I don't think I'd mind keeping it on the watchlist though
 
sd rude
 
@Undo @Art that's a really awesome project to be working on, nice!
Ugggghhh I forgot to use nohup
A task that was supposed to run overnight stopped when my SSH session died (even though it was running in the background)
 
3:49 PM
@NobodyNada hmm
 
NVZ
4:23 PM
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, repeating characters in body: How would I use the output of a set of instructions to make a new variable? by Mohaya on stackoverflow.com
 
stupid caps-lock
@SmokeDetector v
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in body: Can't build gnu make with binutils 2.25-9 by qssha on stackoverflow.com
fp- by NobodyNada
 
NVZ
how does manually reporting work? only spam flags? or does R/A flags push items to smokey?
 
4:40 PM
Restart: API quota is 15857.
 
@NVZ If you still use FDSC, flagging as either spam or rude reports items to Smokey
but you can also manually report posts with the !!/report command
!!/errorlogs
sd poof
 
NVZ
@NobodyNada eh, what's FDSC?
 
@NVZ Flag Dialog Smokey Controls; a userscript which automatically sends feedback to Smokey when you flag something
 
It's extremely useful
 
NVZ
@NobodyNada how do i sign up for that?
 
4:45 PM
@DJMcMayhem yeah, I've migrated over to FIRE though
 
NVZ
@DJMcMayhem installed it with tamperingchimpy.. now what?
 
IMO FIRE's faster and easier, since I can open the post directly in chat
 
NVZ
will it replace my normal flag dialog?
@NobodyNada i already have fire in chat.
 
@NVZ You'll see feedback stats on the flag dialog on a post that Smokey's reported
you can try opening the flag dialog here, but of course don't actually flag it since it's an fp
 
NVZ
4:48 PM
i'm not sure we're all on the same page. let me clarify. i'm asking whether or not my normal flag on a post on a site will push it to smokey regardless of it being spam flag or rude flag.
 
Spam or rude flag will, but not any other flags
 
NVZ
ah, okay. now i get it.
thanks.
and thanks for the fdsc script as well
 
5:08 PM
woo!
9 autoflags today.
Perk of being a core user :-)
 
5:28 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What is your best programmer joke? by a deleted user on stackoverflow.com
 
5:44 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Using a javascript crypto miner in applescript by le_sanglier on stackoverflow.com
 
5:56 PM
@SmokeDetector sd why
@SmokeDetector why
 
@NobodyNada Body - Position 633-645: bitfinex.com
 
sd - f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How do I share a beamer theme? by Appnaz on tex.SE
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
Plagiarized from naphaneal's comment, with a spam link inserted. — NobodyNada 9 secs ago
!!/watch appnaz\.com
 
@NobodyNada Added appnaz\.com to watchlist
CI on 8fc8838 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 8fc8838 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of appnaz\.com by NobodyNada --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)
Restart: API quota is 15123.
 
6:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: How do I share a beamer theme? by Appnaz on tex.SE
 
@kurt Please don't edit spam out of answers, because it makes it harder to be deleted. — DJMcMayhem 10 mins ago
headdesk
 
tpu- by DraconicPenguin
 
@bwDraco Should I have worded that better?
 
No, it was directed towards to the person who made the edit.
 
Ah.
 
6:22 PM
hmm, wheat's the deal with this announcement?
 
@NobodyNada Yeah, I was wondering...
 
6:55 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: If penis reconstruction from a clitoris is possible why isn't penis enlargement possible? by a deleted user on biology.SE
 
@SmokeDetector fp-
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
7:12 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Passing Payment Card details to the Rave Payment Gateway SDK by biodun on stackoverflow.com
 
NVZ
@SmokeDetector why
 
@NVZ Body - Position 1-284: <p>If I understand your request correctly, you want to debit card directly by only providing the user's card details like Stripe's mobile SDK. Unfortunately, you cannot do that with current Rave Android SDK. To get access to this feature, send an email to hi@flutterwavego.com </p>
 
NVZ
user appears to have 4 years here.
and zero activity almost
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: What is the maximum size I can print this photo? by Haley on photo.SE
fp- by DJMcMayhem
 
NVZ
@SmokeDetector why
 
7:25 PM
@NVZ Body - Position 245-260: teeth whitening
 
NVZ
lol
 
8:12 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating words in answer: Mitosis in human body by jeff on biology.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
J F
8:50 PM
@Henders Use fish instead :) Type something in, then hit the up arrow. Same functionality.
 
@JF fish? o.O
I knew you could press up but it's a pain if it's history item 400 or something :P
 
J F
If you type something in, it filters the history for that content and only shows those entries when you hit the up arrow.
 
Oh, that's neat
 
J F
9:05 PM
Plus it supports a prompt on the right, which works great with powerline.
 
9:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, offensive answer detected: Do any programs exist that allow you to build your own LEGO manuals? by user9238 on bricks.SE
Restart: API quota is 13257.
 
10:24 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How do I deal with people who can't deal with local payment customs? by Craig Wilson on interpersonal.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
@SmokeDetector Well, you caught it... now what are you going to do with it?
 
@Catija What do you mean?
 
@Henders I thought that part of what Smokey did was auto spam flag things?
 
@Catija Only if the threshold for this post was high enough. I spam flagged it because Smokey pointed it out.
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@Henders That post was not automatically flagged by metasmoke.
 
10:27 PM
Yeah so that post wasn't auto flagged because smoke detector wasn't sure enough that it was spam.
 
Ah. Gotcha. I came here when I saw it to "report" it but I saw that it'd already been picked up.
 
In normal 'work hours' when there's more people around, you'll often get a post completely removed by the community
 
Yeah, this time of day on a Friday the entire network is pretty dead.
 
Yep, and I'm here flagging spam... Makes you re-evaluate... :P
 
Rory's here too! YAY!
Or, we could all go and hang out on MSE and complain about the guy asking where else he can ask his questions since SE isn't designed well.
 
10:30 PM
Ah yes, that's always fun :P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Get direct download link from HTML by Pedro on stackoverflow.com
 
11:19 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL body: Configure sslh with transparent proxy support by user2677279 on superuser.com
 
sd why
 
@Henders [:40161664] Post - Bad fragment in link github.com/yrutschle/sslh#transparent-proxy-support
 
11:51 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: Kubernetes Installation with Vagrant & CoreOS: kubectl can't work by htl on stackoverflow.com
 
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