Charcoal HQ

NobodyNada

00:15

@QPaysTaxes Yeah

(assuming it's the "real" ID column and not the hashed ID you were discussing earlier)

OK, then that should be the primary key AFAIK

SmokeDetector

00:53

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Library (or libraries) for translating REST queries to database queries? by Bill on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

NobodyNada

sd v

@QPaysTaxes is there a reason you need negative numbers?

@QPaysTaxes then...just use an unsigned integer?

Google says an unsigned integer is the "normal" thing anyway

also, it gives you twice as many numbers without going into negative numbers

"signed primary key" has good results

Undo

@quartata Meta post or another flag are the best way to handle that.

quartata

I don't care about the flag itself

I just want to be sure that whichever mod did it knows in case a similar spam occurs again

I've blacklisted the website

SmokeDetector

CI on ccd8e47 succeeded.

Thomas Ward

Chaos is come muahahah

greetings, either way.

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

01:08

@ThomasWard CI build is still pending, wait until the build has finished and then pull again.

Thomas Ward

SHUSH YOU I WILL BURN THEE

SmokeDetector

CI on 5f33122 succeeded.

Thomas Ward

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 5f33122 (Thomas Ward: Merge pull request #702 from Charcoal-SE/git_windows_wrapper) (running on teward / Midnight Eclipse)

Thomas Ward

^ that shouldn't impact active Smokeys but i'd rather not have any pull/merge issues in a bit with the locking thing.

SmokeDetector

01:09

Restart: API quota is 16612.

user165474

01:28

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Running since 01:09:05 UTC (19 minutes)

SmokeDetector

02:07

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: One word in describing a person who always trying to be creative by Haziq Mazlan on english.SE

user165474

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Body - Position 97-104: Elysian

user165474

Oh.

user165474

@SmokeDetector fp-

user165474

I just saw this from the realtime tab when I was testing my bot lol.

user165474

02:11

Why is "Elysian" bad though?

angussidney

May 2 at 4:39, by tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword elysian

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

31 TPs

But so many FPs on a sitewide search: stackexchange.com/search?q=elysian

I'm unblacklisting that

user165474

It seems to be a product name/brandname

angussidney

@tripleee make sure that you do a sitewide search before blacklisting things. Remember that MS is a biased source

Thomas Ward

derps randomly

user165474

So it's usually caught by other things as well.

angussidney

02:15

@ThomasWard o/

@HyperNeutrino yeah

Thomas Ward

@angussidney \o

@angussidney hope we don't mind me merging in my windows git wrapper before we merge the git wrapper heh

user165474

I'm trying to make a bot to detect off-topic questions specifically on codegolf (because it's not a typical Q+A site) but I have gotten no realtime updates since i started 8 minutes ago >_>

user165474

OO finally something

angussidney

@ThomasWard go ahead with whatever you want, providing you're ready to reboot the bot if it fails :)

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@angussidney teward / Midnight Eclipse

CI on c487cb2 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev c487cb2 (angussidney: -elysian from bad keyowrds --autopull) (running on teward / Midnight Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16297.

Thomas Ward

02:19

@angussidney well you know what's nice?

@angussidney it wont' affect the primary Smokeys

since it only is imported on a Windows platform

yay for platform checks at import time lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How do I crop (time not picture) an MP4 video file by Mariah Smith on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

angussidney

Ah, that sounds good

Thomas Ward

@angussidney yeah, we don't change much heh

@angussidney that magic is here: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/702/…

and is basically the same changes that we did to issue the "Git not available in Windows" warning that would prevent the sh.git stuff from loading, in terms of where the if statement is and the way it's all handled to detect Windows.

user165474

What would you say the last report is? I think it's fp.

Thomas Ward

@angussidney since it's only imported only if 'windows' is present in the platform line, and in all other cases it imports sh.git, all should be good there.

@HyperNeutrino fp. It's not spam directly, though it's more link-only-answer

(I'm an Ask Ubuntu mod btw)

@SmokeDetector fp-

user165474

02:25

Alright. Thanks.

angussidney

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Nuavive Derma Serum & Nuavive Derma by kuxr glead on apple.SE (@CalvT)

user165474

@SmokeDetector tpu-

user165474

I don't even need to open that.

Thomas Ward

you should if yo uwant to flag it heh

i open the posts to use a flag heh

user165474

02:35

heh I just let MS flag it for me.

user165474

Oh yeah, I learned yesterday that redflagging something will automatically place a downvote on it which is why I saw a question yesterday with 6 downvotes and 1 view. lol

user165474

So you can effectively give it 2 downvotes if you have 125+ rep by redflagging and then downvoting

angussidney

@QPaysTaxes MS does all the autoflagging, not Smokey

tchrist

@SmokeDetector Why?

SmokeDetector

@tchrist Body - Position 97-104: Elysian

tchrist

02:45

OFFS

angussidney

@tchrist I've already unblacklisted the term

tchrist

@angussidney Thanks.

angussidney

Smokey is too insecure

Especially with remote-code-execution as a ~~vulnerability~~ feature

tchrist

@angussidney What is Smokey to insecure?

His source code?

:)

angussidney

Anyone with code access would be able to modify the code to e.g. autoflag every single post since anyone can !!/pull

But MS is much more secure since it can only be deployed by Undo, and only 2 people have push access to the repo

Because any old code can be run on the machine running Smokey if a code admin went rogue, including but not limited to viruses, keyloggers, anything that would permanently damage our repuation as an organisation, etc

Yeah, true

But the chance of something going wrong is much, much lower on MS than Smokey

That's my point

user165474

02:55

@QPaysTaxes Sorry, I meant FIRE not MS.

user165474

Hm. Then I must have not cast a flag for that.

user165474

Right, I was going to check but it was deleted very quickly.

quartata

@HyperNeutrino Probably should look into FireAlarm

user165474

Oh okay. Thanks.

quartata

I think they're running an SE wide version of it and Natty here

It was made for SO but you could train it for PPCG I'm sure

Thomas Ward

03:02

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard c487cb2 (angussidney: -elysian from bad keyowrds --autopull)

user165474

@quartata My objective is mostly to try to catch posts that are meant for StackOverflow. I'll probably look for things like specific language tags, not having the word "challenge" anywhere, and (not or) having a really high code:text ratio.

user165474

And, because there are many on-topic challenges with one or even two of those traits.

quartata

Oh then FireAlarm will probably work fine as is. Just ask Nobody if it's scanning PPCG in SEBotics

Although actually

I have the creds for it so I could probably figure out how to start it myself on there

user165474

Alright. Does it scan for VLQ or off-topic?

quartata

03:10

Both, really.

It's trained to look for really bad SO questions which are basically the same thing as what we see on PPCG

user165474

Sometimes there are good SO questions that are posted to PPCG by new users, so looking for bad questions may not work. Not sure though.

angussidney

What language are you writing it in?

user165474

Python.

user165474

I can make bots in Python and I know how to process incoming questions using JavaScript >_>

quartata

Use the realtime web socket

user165474

03:16

Hm?

user165474

I'm using the SE api and using StackExcnahge.subscribeToRealtimeQuestions or something along those lines from JS

quartata

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/ws.py#L261

That's what that does behind the scenes.

user165474

Oh, okay thanks. I'll use that instead then. :)

NobodyNada

@quartata FireAlarm doesn't watch on sites other than SO right now, but expansion to other sites is coming soon -- a mod from Graphic Design has asked if they can have FireAlarm, and PPCG people including you have suggested running it there to look for Stack Overflow questions.

The PPCG part is likely to be very accurate once FireAlarm's been trained for it, and GDSE just needs me to train it and modify the Filter to support multiple sites

user165474

03:34

Yay congrats! :D

user165474

Haha lol.

user165474

'night, cya! o/

NobodyNada

@QPaysTaxes \o/

goodnight!

quartata

03:46

@NobodyNada I can get you data if necessary

Since I have 7k rep there

NobodyNada

@quartata I should be able to get what I need from the data dump; but I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

quartata

What about roomba'd posts?

Most closed posts that are in the data dump probably won't be off topic

at least not what we're looking for

might be off topic because of no objective winning criterion not because it's a general programming question

NobodyNada

My plan right now is to train the filter to categorized posts into SO/PPCG instead of open/closed

So instead of giving it a bunch of open questions and closed questions, I'll give it a bunch of Stack Overflow questions and a bunch of code golf questions

angussidney

@QPaysTaxes so is the assignment thing that dropbox stuffed up due tomorrow or?

user165474

04:32

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Of course

user165474

Yay, no spam recently.

user165474

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Running since 02:18:17 UTC (139 minutes)

user165474

Okay.

user165474

04:37

It's a quiet time for spam apparently. \o/

user165474

The last report was 2h ago o.o

angussidney

04:51

Sundays are always quiet

The graph at the bottom of this page is basically the world's most complicated sunday detector

user165474

Oh wow, that is a very clear trend. How to tell if it's Sunday: Smokey is quiet. :P

user165474

05:13

It also seems to always have a local minima on Friday and it rises back up to normal on Saturday, and then drops way down for Sunday.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: www.hairlosspropecia.org/zyacin/ by zesarac on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

user165474

Well, just as I was saying. :P

angussidney

@QPaysTaxes oh, good

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: zyacin: An Introduction Fixings Added to Supplement by Pur ping on superuser.com

tpu- by angussidney

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: JSON validator, syntax checker? by user7975195 on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

user165474

Hm. Doesn't look like spam.

angussidney

05:29

sd f

Yeah, the link rings a bell

user165474

The link does actually appear to validate JSON like OP wanted.

user165474

sd f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: exceptionally viable and no by liretkemi.keim on webmasters.SE

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

user165474

@QPaysTaxes Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'foo' of undefined.

user165474

No problem.

user165474

05:35

!!/addblu 7975195 stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino User blacklisted (7975195 on stackoverflow.com).

user165474

Just going to watch this user for a bit about the post.

user165474

I'll unblacklist later if I don't see anything suspicious.

user165474

The user recently registered though.

SmokeDetector

05:46

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Subversion has disabled write permissions to directory by Ritesh Kumar on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: supplementbase.com/apex-rush-testo by zohizahad on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

user165474

Oh wait deleted already.

user165474

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Can't hurt to tell metasmoke that it's a true

user165474

sd - fp

SmokeDetector

1. [:37228023] <skipped>
2. [:37228000] Registered question as false positive.

Conflicting feedback on http://supplementbase.com/apex-rush-testo.

fp feedback on autoflagged post: http://supplementbase.com/apex-rush-testo

user165474

nooo WHAT

user165474

05:58

oh it counted by tpu- message???

user165474

great now i need to delete it from ms. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

user165474

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@HyperNeutrino Registered answer as false positive and removed user from the blacklist.

user165474

Oh wait it auto rmblu's?

angussidney

Yeah, that's what f/fp/fp- does

fpu- adds them to the whitelist

user165474

06:00

Ohhh, right. I see.

user165474

What is the whitelist exactly?

angussidney

Which is for when they have a bad username but legitimate posts

It exempts them from username checks only (it still checks the bodies of their posts)

user165474

Oh okay. I see.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: The man developed components and by brownmahal on workplace.SE

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

user165474

waitwaitwaitwait

user165474

06:12

ok yup.

user165474

sd - why

SmokeDetector

1. [:37228166] <skipped>
2. [:37228158] Body - Position 320-327: endovex, Position 356-363: Endovex
Body - Position 306-319: mindextra.com

user165474

Okay.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: getmysupplement.com/zytek-xl/ by Thavinds on apple.SE (@CalvT)

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

user165474

If there's a badge for flagging way too many posts, I'm probably going to get it on Ask Ubuntu or Ask Different.

SmokeDetector

06:27

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: The truth is that by jam shuru on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by MAR

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector The truth is that you're standing at -4 as soon as posting your spam

user165474

Hahaha very true.

M.A.R.

@HyperNeutrino Marshal is the gold badge awarded for 500 helpful flags

user165474

Okay, thanks. Hm, I might get Marshal from doing this. :P

user165474

By helpful, does it mean that the post was deleted after you flagged it?

M.A.R.

06:29

@HyperNeutrino That's how most of us have Marshals on sites about topics we know nothing about

user165474

Haha. I see. The funny thing is that my main account is PPCG, but I'm not gonna get Marshal on that because there's almost no spam there.

user165474

It's technically graduated, but it's been 2 years, still no design ;_;

SmokeDetector

07:06

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: stamina. Tongkat Ali The regular male by liret kedmi on superuser.com

tpu- by MAR

SmokeDetector

07:28

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: What is the difference between ESO: Tamriel Unlimited and ESO: Gold Edition? by Spook on gaming.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Hugo: adding more pages to single-page themes by Inderdeep B. on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

tpu- by MAR

tpu- by MAR on What is the difference between ESO: Tamriel Unlimited and ESO: Gold Edition? [MS]

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@M.A.R. Post - Bad keyword Luxury in link text

M.A.R.

Bah

@SmokeDetector F

@SmokeDetector poof

Mithrandir

08:00

Who was I giving all my flaggables to? Was it @M.A.R. or @Mag?

M.A.R.

@Mithrandir Woof woof

Mithrandir

@M.A.R. still want them?

M.A.R.

Mayhaps

Mithrandir

If so, wait a few - I'll give em out soon

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: This will help you fondle jacked and capable throughout the day. by Reak1987 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by DavidPostill

SmokeDetector

08:18

Restart: API quota is 14587.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: maleenhancement24.com/clemix/ by mibotod on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer: What is Selenium WebDriver's default implicit wait value? by Jp Institute on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

tpu- by Ashish Ahuja

tpu- by DavidPostill on http://maleenhancement24.com/clemix/ [MS]

SmokeDetector

08:46

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer: closure of { z: |z| is rational} by math is fun on math.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: For Best Ads review by Kkrocks on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

tpu- by Mithrandir

fp- by Mithrandir on closure of { z: |z| is rational} [MS]

Ashish Ahuja

!!/test microadia.net

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

Ashish Ahuja

!!/blacklist-website microadia\.net

SmokeDetector

@AshishAhuja Blacklisted microadia\.net

CI on 0219776 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 0219776 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of microadia\.net by Ashish Ahuja --autopull) (running on teward / Midnight Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 14368.

Mithrandir

@M.A.R. - still around?

@CalvT - you wanted flaggables too, IIRC.

tc tc tc tc

tc tc

...and now I don't have any comment flags on Math.SE left :P

SmokeDetector

09:02

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Android app has inferior searching by Reza G on meta.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

Mithrandir

tc tc

tc

Wait, this was deleted but my spam flag is still pending? O_O

angussidney

09:24

@Mithrandir what are all of these things you're linking to?

Mithrandir

@angussidney giving links that MAR asked for

things that go boom

I can move it to a different room, if ye prefer

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: WordPress page content in Modal Pop-Up by Allure Web Solutions on stackoverflow.com (@HyperNeutrino)

fp- by Mithrandir

angussidney

Nah. it's fine here. I was just wondering what it was, since nearly everything was already deleted

Mithrandir

Bleh, too many requests on the flag summary

J F

09:43

@QPaysTaxes If you call next(err?), the next handler will be called. If you don’t, the request will hang because Express lets you do async stuff in the handler before calling next() or responding.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Get content from WordPress posts in Boostrap modal window - Javascript side? by Allure Web Solutions on wordpress.SE

fp- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: clemix is no expansion made with fillers by Thes se on superuser.com

tpu- by Cai

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: maleenhancement24.com/clemix/ by mibotod on workplace.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

SmokeDetector

10:35

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: techiOSApps for how to recover lost clash of clans village back by iOS Fast Updates Dont Use Jail on apple.SE (@CalvT)

tpu- by J F

Mithrandir

!!/test-q iosfastupdates.com

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a question.

Mithrandir

!!/test iosfastupdates.com

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-website iosfastupdates.com

SmokeDetector

10:38

@Mithrandir You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.

Mithrandir

trying to push it into autoflagging territory

Jan Dvorak

in before "trying to push it from five autoflags to six"

J F

> 18.4 You agree that Heroku may provide you with notices, including those regarding changes to the Terms, by email, regular mail, or postings on the Heroku Services. By providing Heroku your email address, you consent to our using the email address to send you any notices required by law in lieu of communication by postal mail.

…do I have a choice?

There’s also no postal address field, but they do ask for your country. Maybe postal services are just that good.

Cai

10:53

!!/unnotify 56223 graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

@Cai I will no longer ping you if I report a post on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com, in room 56223 on chat.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: clemix work out Balance the hormone level Working by Spal19 on drupal.SE

tpu- by J F

Jan Dvorak

!!/report codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/162668/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: jhfjhhjukb yujunuy ym by swaaaaaaaa on codereview.SE (@QPaysTaxes)

tpu- by Mithrandir

tp- by J F

J F

!!/rollback

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Cai

Mithrandir

11:03

@SmokeDetector v

J F

@Cai ?

Mithrandir

@Cai - that's vandalism, so only tp-, not tpu-.

Cai

apologies, didn't realise it'd been edited

J F

@QPaysTaxes I don’t seem to have access. heroku access:add [email protected] should add me.

SmokeDetector

11:32

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: What are the specific words to describe lines/wrinkles/crinkles on a piece of paper or a book? by Simone on english.SE

fp- by J F

J F

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@JF Title - Position 47-55: wrinkles

tpu- by DavidPostill on jhfjhhjukb yujunuy ym [MS]

J F

@DavidPostill That’s vandalism.

DavidPostill

@JF So it is

Mithrandir

@QPaysTaxes - that's not my site, FYI.

J F

11:46

@ArtOfCode/@Undo Can I get some 👀 on my MS PR?

Mithrandir

@QPaysTaxes - it doesn't need to be blaring, and it's not even a real affiliation. It's not like it's mine; it's a relatives. I do know the rules, you know :)

DavidPostill

12:11

@QPaysTaxes lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body: Tribulus Terrestris Zinc Gluconate Magnesium B6 – by user93854 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

SmokeDetector

12:26

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Do longer gun's barrel improve accuracy? by Shit on engineering.SE

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

SmokeDetector

12:48

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Segments of clemix by Powle en on superuser.com

tpu- by Hyper Neutrino

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Best ways to remove excess tension from fretting hand? by Neil Burnett on music.SE

naa- by DavidPostill

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