Charcoal HQ

Glorfindel

12:04 PM

!!/alive

angussidney

@Glorfindel nope

Glorfindel

And no backup instances either ...

angussidney

I'll start up mine

CalvT

Is there a shortage of instances atm or what's the problem?

angussidney

@CalvT shortage === none

Glorfindel

12:08 PM

@CalvT metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/status

CalvT

Yeah but generally

Not long ago someone was worried about only one being up

Like 3/4 days ago

Just thinking I could spare an EC2 if it's going to be a regular thing

angussidney

Usually we have 3 or so up and running

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 07e345a (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of patriot\Wpower\Wgreens by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on angussidney/Ubuntu)

Restart: API quota is 19961.

angussidney

There we go

I forgot that we're on python 3 now, I had to upgrade everything

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: buyhealthsupplement.com/ultra-boost-force/ by charles on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Jan Dvorak

angussidney

12:13 PM

!!/pull

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector K

!!/push

angussidney

Great, that broke

I'll have to pull manually

M.A.R.

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/43587802/5210517

@angus why did you break Smokey?

angussidney

@M.A.R. I'm fixing it now

tripleee

how long for one of the other instances to take over?

@M.A.R. be nice

M.A.R.

12:19 PM

@tripleee I wasn't being mean, I was just wondering what happened that it broke -- i.e. real question

Glorfindel

... and don't ping people who are busy with an extremely important task :P

!!/report apple.stackexchange.com/q/281759/121968

(it's the advids.co guy again)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 05abf6e (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of hideurlscript\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on angussidney/Ubuntu)

Restart: API quota is 19942.

angussidney

It should be online in a sec, I have to go now so don't do anything that could break it

@ArtOfCode When you come online could you take over hosting smokey, just kill my instance.

CalvT

This should go to meta right?

DavidPostill

@CalvT Yes. Flagged.

CalvT

12:27 PM

Thanks

Glorfindel

@CalvT yeah, but it's probably a duplicate. Still, voted to migrate.

CalvT

@Glorfindel don't think there's much probably about it...

tripleee

test/test_srccheck.py ../usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py:540: ResourceWarning: unclosed <ssl.SSLSocket fd=13, family=AddressFamily.AF_INET, type=SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM, proto=6, laddr=('10.191.0.234', 63875), raddr=('198.252.206.29', 443)>
  start = set[:]

I'm getting this when attempting to run the test suite on macOS

with Homebrew Python 3.5.1

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Why a car won't start but the radio and lights work, how do I Troubleshoot a Car? Help? by PartsAvatar Aftermarket Auto on mechanics.SE

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

@tripleee apparently only when there is a failure so maybe that's tolerable

M.A.R.

12:35 PM

!!/test However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not at midday

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

CalvT

!!/alive

Oh Smokey...

M.A.R.

Hey, it was just a test I swear

Shadow Wizard

No more Smokey... R.I.P

tripleee

!!/reboot

call me an optimist

Shadow Wizard

12:48 PM

Where is it hosted now? Maybe server was shut down?

DavidPostill

@angussidney Smokey died again

@ShadowWizard Last running on angussidney/Ubuntu

Shadow Wizard

@DavidPostill so when he's away and it crash, we can have long hours without Smokey?

tripleee

@ShadowWizard in theory, we should have multiple instances with fallback when one dies

Shadow Wizard

Really think that for something so big, we better have several hosts. Maybe even SE itself.

tripleee

but there are of course scenarios where that doesn't play out

Shadow Wizard

12:50 PM

@tripleee well, hosting isn't cheap, guess only very few are willing to do that. :/

@Undo isn't hosting Smokey any more?

DavidPostill

@ShadowWizard We normally have failover instances running.

CalvT

@ShadowWizard Usually ArtofCode's is up, also Undo's, also ThomasWards, etc etc

Mithrandir

Paging @ThomasWard

Shadow Wizard

So now none are up, and none are around. Sweet.

tripleee

@ShadowWizard Undo, ArtOfCode, and teward are all hosting instances but they seem to be AWOL

Shadow Wizard

12:51 PM

calling all da spammerz

Riker

@tripleee I just realized how weird your avatar looks, it's like an e with legs

3

tripleee

@Riker no fooling

Shadow Wizard

The things people see when they finally have time now that Smokey is gone... :D

Riker

it's 5 am for me and i'm still sleepy

tripleee

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/status would usually have several instances on standby

Riker

12:52 PM

and my monitor colors are inverted and idk why

Thomas Ward

Blah

what

Shadow Wizard

@Riker still? Either you woke up early, or didn't sleep at all, in both cases being sleepy is expected... :)

Thomas Ward

oh

Mithrandir

smokey's dead

Riker

@ShadowWizard oh wait it's almost 6

tripleee

12:53 PM

@ThomasWard can you kick up your instance?

DavidPostill

@Riker It's a triskelion made with the letter e :)

Riker

and I did not sleep no

Shadow Wizard

@Riker 5:53

Riker

@DavidPostill still creepy

Thomas Ward

@tripleee i'll start up Eclipse shortly

Riker

12:53 PM

@ShadowWizard yea that sounds right

tripleee

@ThomasWard excellent

Thomas Ward

patience though as i am trying to not be late for work too :P

i iverslwpt

7

Mithrandir

*overslept

Shadow Wizard

@ThomasWard work?! Smokey is much more important!

Riker

no don't edit

it's toi glorious as-is

noo @ThomasWard how could you

Thomas Ward

12:54 PM

too late riker

tripleee

boo

Shadow Wizard

you mod, edit it back

CalvT

^ that

Thomas Ward

he doesn't want a mod war :P

Shadow Wizard

mod war! mod war! mud war! :D

Thomas Ward

12:55 PM

we don't want to incur the wrath of shog now do we :P

Mithrandir

@ThomasWard ...says who? :P

Shadow Wizard

@Shog isn't here

Thomas Ward

yet

Mithrandir

@ThomasWard stop chatting and fix Smokey

Shadow Wizard

Why would he? It's cozy in Tavern. Far away on different ~~planet~~ domain.

Thomas Ward

12:56 PM

slow booting system is slow PATIENCE

M.A.R.

young padawan

Riker

*my young padawan

Shadow Wizard

@Riker answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/…

Locutus of Borg

@Riker eyeroll

Riker

> windows

eugh

Shadow Wizard

12:58 PM

oh, not windows?

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 19995.

tripleee

yayy

Thomas Ward

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard teward / Midnight Eclipse

Locutus of Borg

*clap clap clap*

tripleee

1:00 PM

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@tripleee 05abf6e (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of hideurlscript\.com by Glorfindel --autopull)

tripleee

all good

Shadow Wizard

until it dies again.... ;)

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard don't be so

tripleee

circle of life

Locutus of Borg

1:02 PM

pessimistic

tripleee

(oh no, what did I do)

(quick, some other song. The lion sleeps tonight!)

Mithrandir

Abi meleibt

SmokeDetector

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: ids at 09:03:37 UTC. Backing off on requests for the next 12 seconds.

Thomas Ward

i don't know why that happens :/

i cant find where that happens in the code :/

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Black magic in body: Split 1 video with 16 audio into 16 unique video (each with 1 audio) and push to YT + FB? by Haseeb on stackoverflow.com

Mithrandir

1:06 PM

Eeek, that reason? Didn't we kill it?

SmokeDetector

fp- by Glorfindel

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: ids at 09:06:14 UTC. Backing off on requests for the next 12 seconds.

tripleee

"frigging" seems more problematic

SmokeDetector

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: ids at 09:06:19 UTC. Backing off on requests for the next 12 seconds.

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir it has been re-enabled by black magic.

tripleee

@Mithrandir it was disabled from some sites IIRC

M.A.R.

1:07 PM

!!/report chemistry.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/54775

SmokeDetector

@M.A.R. Post 1: That does not look like a valid post URL.

M.A.R.

Oh, shoot

Glorfindel

!!/report chemistry.stackexchange.com/a/73263/15751

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What is "heating under reflux"? by xcbbhdka on chemistry.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Riker

lol triple manual report

Shadow Wizard

1:18 PM

@Mithrandir פסימי? I'm just being realistic... ;)

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard don't keep up your hopes too high

Shadow Wizard

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: ids at 09:21:22 UTC. Backing off on requests for the next 12 seconds.

Shadow Wizard

!!/whoami

SmokeDetector

1:21 PM

@ShadowWizard My id for this room is 120914.

Shadow Wizard

The weird error is coming from this code.

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Openfire Service Unit for SUSE Enterprise Linux by elbino on stackoverflow.com

fp- by Glorfindel

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector F

tripleee

!!/quota

Henders

@Cerbrus - Fire replacing a link in the help text i.stack.imgur.com/5nsyf.png

tripleee

1:25 PM

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@tripleee plz send teh coffee

what's happening

Hrm

!!/location

@quartata teward / Midnight Eclipse

Shadow Wizard

1:28 PM

Looks like it's happening when people use the userscript

(or auto flags? not sure)

quartata

Hm?

tripleee

@quartata Angus' instance went belly up with no secondary standing by

but we are good again now

though it's griping about not getting the quota remaining

quartata

Yeah we need more standbys now that Aurora and esxi are both dead

Cerbrus

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@Cerbrus I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

quartata

1:30 PM

We basically only have EC2 and Eclipse

tripleee

I get a warning box when hovering over the flames

Mithrandir

FIRE bug, @Cerbrus

Cerbrus

Yea, I know. That's why I commanded SD to help me :P

Mithrandir

I'm donking

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Careers advice for Ph.D.s without current postdocs or university jobs by ff rr on mathoverflow.net

tpu- by Mithrandir

Cerbrus

1:34 PM

Bug fixed and building... You should be able to update in a moment.

Henders

@SmokeDetector @Cerbrus Also, while you're fixing... That last smokey says it's been 'edited' but the answer shows no edits. It was made into a community wiki so maybe the system counts that as an edit? Just a FYI because maybe that is desired behaviour

Mithrandir

@Henders was withing the 5 minutes, I think

Henders

Derp.

Cancel that, Cerb. Mithrandir already fixed it :P

SmokeDetector

[ userscripts ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 54e4712: The Travis CI build passed

Shadow Wizard

@Henders no, new answer was indeed posted. Since the question itself is CW, the answer also becomes CW automatically.

Henders

1:39 PM

@ShadowWizard Also a good point :P Thanks

Cerbrus

@Henders Not sure what's happening there, then.

I just look at the revision count. If it's >1, then it's got a revision history.

Mithrandir

yep

Cerbrus

That's probably it then

Andy

@ThomasWard bodyfetcher line 301 through 308. If you are running in debug, can you check the URL when that happens? If not, I want to have the url variable spit out too. It doesn't look like there is a token involved at this point.

@ShadowWizard What userscript and what are they doing with it to make the bug occur?

Cerbrus

K, the !!/help FIRE bug is fixed, you can now update.

There seems to be an issue with the blut not going away when you first authenticate FIRE

Y/N/Maybe/Not sure

Mithrandir

1:49 PM

Remind me how to select the last report with keyboard shortcuts please?

Cerbrus

Ctrl+Space = last report

Henders

I had the same issue @QPaysTaxes

Mithrandir

thanks

Henders

@Cerbrus Thanks :)

Andy

Do we have a way to replicate the api_quota error?

Glorfindel

2:09 PM

Report one of the previous posts where it happened again (if it isn't already deleted)?

SmokeDetector

2:37 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: From the perspective of contenders by therch on drupal.SE

tpu- by Undo

Riker

> Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body:

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector K

Riker

tha'ts a lotta stuff

M.A.R.

@Riker Pfft, only 293

Glorfindel

@Riker we've seen posts hitting 11 filters.

Henders

2:41 PM

Yeah, this is a good one from earlier

M.A.R.

There was one with a sum reason weight of 972.

Henders

That one is only 753... Closest I could get :P

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Nikita' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Sugars ought to furthermore emerge by lasmazolia154 on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, link following arrow in title, +2 more: Endovex Review >>> healthpowerzone.com/endovex-review/ by toddgaither on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Thomas Ward

3:08 PM

@Andy It doesn't raise an error, I'd have to set a breakpoint somewhere and handle it every single body fetch.,

which is very inefficient

I could, but I don't have the time today to run TCOM for that long

i have the time tomorrow

so let's move it to that 'deferred' list and bother me tomorrow for it

Andy

@ThomasWard I've created a pull request to simply print the last url.

Thomas Ward

link?

@Andy I would suggest using a raise not a print because we already have a buttload of console output.

:p

Andy

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/669

Thomas Ward

raise IOError(" BadURL: %s" % url) or smth

Andy

I mean print to chat

Thomas Ward

3:10 PM

ah i see

you should read my comments :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Why would anyone say I'm a motherf***** starboy instead of I'm a starboy? What sense does it make? What meaning does it add? by user72227 on english.SE

Andy

I was going for something minimal that could be removed by deleting a single line once we've figured out what's happening. But, I'll make that change for you

Thomas Ward

@Andy ah, well then i'll accept.

Though I need to go through and futz around with some strings anyways at some point so blah.

Esp. because unicode.

merged as is

@Andy ^

Andy

cool. Now we jab someone to make them break it again

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@Andy It's Andy's fault.

Andy

3:19 PM

Damn

SmokeDetector

CI on f77a8e9 succeeded.

Thomas Ward

lolololololol

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18290.

Thomas Ward

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard f77a8e9 (Thomas Ward: Merge pull request #669 from AWegnerGitHub/master)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: What would happen if electricity stopped working? by Joe smith on worldbuilding.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Why would anyone say I'm a motherf***** starboy instead of I'm a starboy? What sense does it make? What meaning does it add? by user72227 on english.SE

fp- by Glorfindel

quartata

3:33 PM

sd - ignore

SmokeDetector

1. [:36915132] <skipped>
2. [:36915117] Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

Thomas Ward

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard f77a8e9 (Thomas Ward: Merge pull request #669 from AWegnerGitHub/master)

quartata

@Undo Just out of curiosity does Thermite work at all

Glorfindel

sd -

(silence expected)

SmokeDetector

3:37 PM

CI on f438c81 failed.

Jan Dvorak

If you want to silence him for good, there's a better way to do it

quartata

It only posts <skipped> if another command in the chain output something

Henders

Does sd - do nothing? I assume it skips and then there is no other command to process...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How to get the Google PR of a URL programatically by Nextaz on stackoverflow.com

CI on 26c581a succeeded.

tpu- by Floern

quartata

sd 2- k

Thomas Ward

3:44 PM

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 26c581a (Thomas Ward: Better handle HTML escapes; don't have to unescape all API subelements) (running on teward / Midnight Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 18035.

Thomas Ward

in-line if statements are fun lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Along with Zytek XL these functions by Acrewrg on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Ashish Ahuja

quartata

Jeez, it's been 24 hours and I'm still getting 429 errors from SE on Heroku

what the hell is going on

It's just on the login too

Undo

3:59 PM

@quartata Don't think so.

quartata

Does Charcoal still work

Jan Dvorak

The room seems active

Ferrybig

It feels good when fully nuke an SE site for spam

3

Ashish Ahuja

wow, the site was hacked?!!

Ferrybig

@AshishAhuja The dns was pointing to a spam website. I'm not sure how that ever could happen

Jan Dvorak

4:08 PM

SE's had plenty of DNS mishaps already

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Small confusion related to leaving of electrons from atoms by Nicho on physics.SE

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

@NobodyNada that post ^ crashes READi.

NobodyNada

4:23 PM

@Glorfindel No repro. I'm not sure I've pushed my latest code to GH; I'll try to do that later today, but I'm busy with homeschool so no promises.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What does this Google Play APK publish error message mean? by Bidri Handicraft on stackoverflow.com

NobodyNada

Ooh, I can reproduce now.

I think it's actually a few posts before that one which is crashing

Glorfindel

@NobodyNada oh, could be, yes. I assumed the emoji was crashing it.

@SmokeDetector k

quartata

4:48 PM

@JanDvorak Not that. I meant the original Charcoal app

Like what we're named for

SmokeDetector

5:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Touchpad extremely laggy/doesn't work when the laptop is charging 🔋 (not a hardware problem) by Optical Illusion on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Ferrybig

quartata

sd - rude

@JanDvorak ?

!!/allnotificationsites 11540

SmokeDetector

You will get notified for these sites:
codegolf.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: opposing skin novela will work to harden your skin as it will by zamperchummi on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Usually, people go for Zytek XL by Acrewrg on workplace.SE

tpu- by Ferrybig

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Servos and ultrasonic at the same time by user33127 on arduino.SE

tpu- by Ferrybig

SmokeDetector

5:51 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Some e-mails are not delivered to my server by David on serverfault.com

fp- by Ferrybig

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: In the event that regardless by Haranded1988 on superuser.com

tpu- by Ferrybig

NobodyNada

6:18 PM

o/

Mithrandir

@Ferrybig ...woah.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: which is free of all indications by Bition tion on drupal.SE

tpu- by Ferrybig

Thomas Ward

Greetings to all.

is everything working now lol

Andy

It's not dead yet, if that's what you're wondering.

Thomas Ward

yep.

!!/notify 11540 askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

6:36 PM

@ThomasWard You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on askubuntu.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

Thomas Ward

@SmokeDetector dead user is now dead muahahah

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard ... did I miss something?

Thomas Ward

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard brews coffee for @ThomasWard

Thomas Ward

blurgh i wish i had more money

Andy

6:44 PM

I bet you are the only one to ever have that wish.

oops...sarcasm slipped through

:)

What are you wishing to get?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: "99 Bottles of Beer" by quartata on codegolf.SE (@quartata)

Ferrybig

@quartata I think you forgot to de-blacklist yourself the last time you tested something ^

SmokeDetector

fp- by Ferrybig

NobodyNada

!!/rmblu codegolf.stackexchange.com/u/45151

SmokeDetector

@NobodyNada User removed from blacklist (45151 on codegolf.stackexchange.com).

SmokeDetector

7:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Any good free materials libraries online? by nic96 on blender.SE

NobodyNada

question asks for it

sd f

SmokeDetector

7:13 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: What is the relationship between the Python data model and built-in functions? by bill cosby on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer: Disqus Wordpress plugin not counting up comments correctly by nabilmubarak on stackoverflow.com

Glorfindel

sd 2k

Processed Meat

0

Q: What are the typical punishments for having a post found to be rude/abusive or spam?

My understanding is that there are several ways to have a post found to be rude/abusive or spam: either enough people flag the post as rude/abusive/spam that the system auto-deletes the post or someone flags a post as rude/abusive/spam and a moderator reviews it and agrees with that. My understa...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Where can I find (plain) Ramen noodles? by christopher on cooking.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: How do you call an instance of a class in Python? by bill cosby on stackoverflow.com

fp- by NobodyNada on Where can I find (plain) Ramen noodles? [MS]

Glorfindel

!!/report english.stackexchange.com/a/386192/116151

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Em dash vs semicolon: which is more appropriate in the following examples? by Tina on english.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

NobodyNada

7:21 PM

Plagiarized from english.stackexchange.com/a/222439/106362, with a spam link inserted

SmokeDetector

7:35 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer: What kind of materials is being used for Fighter jets glass shields? by lolololol on aviation.SE

tpu- by DavidPostill

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: getting user likes in facebook by Khan Afridi on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

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