Charcoal HQ

12:03 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +3 more: What is Alpha Hard Reload? by Tress 19 on drupal.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: Alpha Hard Reload Benefits by Tress 19 on workplace.SE

tripleee

sd 2k

bummi

!!/report fitness.stackexchange.com/q/36380/13395 fitness.stackexchange.com/q/36382/13395

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 1 out of 2): I have a question to ask, please look by Danny on fitness.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 2 out of 2): I want to ask a question, look below by Danny on fitness.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How I can subscribe to conference/seminar/workshop alerts? by MadisonChloe on academia.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: www.click2trial.com/alphamax-x10/ AlphaMax X10 :=> AlphaMax X10 is a propelled answer by Rosheljorge on apple.SE

tpu- by rene on I want to ask a question, look below [MS]

Conflicting feedback on I want to ask a question, look below.

Mithrandir

Whee, ordered my Hacktoberfest shirt.

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on I have a question to ask, please look.

Mithrandir

12:18 PM

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on I want to ask a question, look below.

Mithrandir

Eric Kaufman is a moderator on that site.

Dark Hippo commented on their insulting question to Eric and got an insulting question of their own.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in body: how to inheart chart attributes in react js by Venkaiah Vempalla on stackoverflow.com

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard

SmokeDetector

fp- by ByteCommander

Conflicting feedback on I want to ask a question, look below.

Glorfindel

12:31 PM

!!/watch conferencenext\.com

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Added conferencenext\.com to watchlist

CI on 9d03016 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9d03016 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of conferencenext\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 10645.

Henders

!!/watch miaustore\.com

SmokeDetector

@Henders Added miaustore\.com to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, +1 more: Don’t just take my word HDT Male Enhancement by Mohdikhusra on astronomy.SE

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

CI on 976bf08 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 976bf08 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of miaustore\.com by Henders --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 10571.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body: what is the evglow-cream? by user751888 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: What is the plugin BT DB API really for? by Grey-lover on wordpress.SE

fp- by Glorfindel

Shadow Wizard

12:44 PM

@Mithrandir hmm?

Super Ping!

@@133031

Glorfindel

Probably because of the conflicted feedback on the Fitness questions.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: healthpluscogni.com/androxl-testo-boost/ by bscs on askubuntu.com

tpu- by suraj

Mithrandir

@Glorfindel yup, @Sha

@ShadowWizard that doesn't work ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Glorfindel oh. I saw no spam there, just some random trolling, but not gibberish. Like asking "What is Trump eating today?" which is of course off topic anywhere and should be closed and deleted on spot, but worth getting Smokey involved. IMO.

I don't report all the MSE off topic questions, for example...

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard trolling, insulting users of the site.

That's worth a rude/abusive flag.

Shadow Wizard

12:54 PM

@Mithrandir no idea who they are. So it fits a custom flag perhaps, but you can't expect everyone to know "Eric Kaufman" is a user on that site.

Mithrandir

Eric Kaufman is a mod there

And Dark Hippo is a user who commented on the one about Eric

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on I want to ask a question, look below.

Conflicting feedback on I have a question to ask, please look.

Shadow Wizard

Oh well. Still, this really belongs to that site, can't know the troll is targeting users. There's also no direct offense.

bummi

At least that are two account tolling around with the same name, I wonder how they got upvoted

Suraj Rao

@ShadowWizard probably worth a Mod flag then if not abusive

Mithrandir

12:59 PM

@ShadowWizard sometimes you need to know stuff in this room and with Smokey ;) Like the Holocaust troll

Shadow Wizard

@SurajRao indeed, but only one who know what's going on can flag. For me it was just meaningless trolling.

Mithrandir

Trolling is worth a rude/abusive flag.

!!/whois admin

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir I am aware of 5 admin. Currently in this room: tripleee, Andy. Not currently in this room: ArtOfCode, angussidney, Undo.

Byte Commander

a Trollinger

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: What is a proper starting bankroll? by Zedd on poker.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Dolce Vita Cream Get in touch with your dermatologist if you need help managing your skin care by StephanieSlusser on security.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Windows 10 Trackpad by A_Normal_Dude on superuser.com

tpu- by Mithrandir

Henders

1:16 PM

Does the watch list cause a Smokey report?

Mithrandir

yes, but only in CHQ

Henders

Thanks

Suraj Rao

@SmokeDetector is there any possibility that is a salvageable question ?

Mithrandir

that actually looks like the SU troll :/

yeah, that's a well known troll

tripleee

could not resist commenting, sry

Henders

1:18 PM

@tripleee Page Not Found :(

Mithrandir

(confirmed w/SU mod)

tripleee

@Henders yeah, too bad, it got deleted almost immediately after

Magisch

Heh

Mithrandir

SU, SO, Skeptics/History, IPS, Literature... they've all got some known trolls.

Magisch

Hello charcoal (and other coal, no discrimination)

tripleee

1:21 PM

the evil twin, barcoal

Magisch

I was thinking normal coal, anthracite coal, ligament coal

...

Glorfindel

I was thinking intcoal, longcoal, floatcoal ...

Magisch

bituminous coal

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Why does baking soda and vinegar remove stains? by lol hi on chemistry.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Validation: "th start tag in table body." by hfg on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Mithrandir

bummi

@Glorfindel there is a case of Occam's razor on your site

Glorfindel

1:25 PM

apple.stackexchange.com/questions/303468/… ?

bummi

ok :)

Glorfindel

I found one user on Stack Overflow with that website.

But nothing suspicious so far.

bummi

same to me

Magisch

GA Audiences
Google Analytics
Quantcast
Quantcount
ScoreCard Research Beacon

Interesting telemetry you have there, stack

Glorfindel

I'm not even sure if we should watch it, but here's the website for future reference: cpimobi.com

Magisch

1:28 PM

@Glorfindel It does say it's an app promotion company

so they have a spammish business model

Glorfindel

Yeah, I noticed that as well.

As a moderator, you're always redirected to the 'Activity' tab.

Mithrandir

and that's kinda annoying

Glorfindel

That's confusing, because as a normal user you'd first see the 'Summary' tab.

Mithrandir

I mean, if you're not going to be consistent, at least go to the mod dashboard.

Magisch

pah, blue people talk

./thread

Mithrandir

1:30 PM

6

Q: When a moderator clicks on a user's profile, don't automatically go the Activity tab

When you click on your own profile, it automatically goes to the Activity tab. When you click on a user as a non-mod, it goes to the 'Profile' tab. As a mod... it goes to the 'Activity' tab when you click on another user's profile. This is annoying, because often I want to see the profile, and t...

7

Q: When clicking on User Profile, please have Mod Dashboard selected as default for Moderators

Majority of the times, I'm likely to click on a user profile because the user's a spam user, or to check if the user's sock. Can we please have the Mod dashboard selected as default for Moderators?

feature-request profile-page moderator-tools moderator-abilities

Glorfindel

!!/watch cpimobi\.com

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Added cpimobi\.com to watchlist

Glorfindel

(just in case, it is kinda suspicious)

SmokeDetector

CI on 3a84a7a succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 3a84a7a (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of cpimobi\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 9976.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: healthpluscogni.com/androxl-testo-boost/ by user261135 on apple.SE

tpu- by Henders

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How do I find the permanent url for photos shared publicly on a google+ event by phil lighbothe on webapps.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: womenshealthclaimed.com/hdt-male-enhancement/ by luna chilla on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Byte Commander

1:53 PM

Only 3 hits so far, but I think we could safely blacklist writemypaper4me\.org anyway, what's your opinion?

bummi

jep

Glorfindel

+1

Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-website writemypaper4me\.org

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Blacklisted writemypaper4me\.org

CI on 0b059ab succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 0b059ab (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of writemypaper4me\.org by Mithrandir --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 9675.

SmokeDetector

2:13 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Gattermann-Koch Reaction with Phenol Substrates by suryavir on chemistry.SE

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

@Mithrandir so should we do another round of updated criteria? I agree that the ones we have are probably too strict for some categories, but do we want to relax everything, or just have specific criteria for specific categories?

Magisch

@tripleee I'd go for a common sense based approach

there are cases where blacklisting at 2/2 definitely makes sense imo

Like move away from a hard limit and just go to "multiple TP hits with no or very few false positives" or even "Is unlikely to ever be used for anything other then spam on SE"

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Solving errors when populating data to bootstrap modal after using ajax request by rawsun on stackoverflow.com

fp- by Mithrandir

Mithrandir

@tripleee yeah, I agree with @Magisch

let's not use super strict hard rules

just common sense

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Bye Bye Windowws 10 by zzz on superuser.com

tpu- by Mithrandir

bummi

2:24 PM

new account :/

Mithrandir

*sigh*

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +7 more: womenshealthclaimed.com/hdt-male-enhancement/ by fwcs on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mithrandir

!!/test womenshealthclaimed.com

SmokeDetector

> Bad ns for domain in body, bad ns for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title
----------
Title - Position 3-13: menshealth
Title - womenshealthclaimed.com NS suspicious dns2.namecheaphosting.com.,dns1.namecheaphosting.com.
Body - Position 3-13: menshealth
Post - womenshealthclaimed.com NS suspicious dns2.namecheaphosting.com.,dns1.namecheaphosting.com.

DavidPostill

3:04 PM

@SmokeDetector When did you start checking name servers for links in posts?

Glorfindel

@DavidPostill chat.stackexchange.com/…

tripleee

@Mithrandir the reason we needed guidelines in the first place was that our respective common senses didn't always agree, are you suggesting we ditch the guideline we have? IMHO we should keep it, and try to articulate an update

Glorfindel

!!/report chemistry.stackexchange.com/a/84749/15751

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Gattermann-Koch Reaction with Phenol Substrates by suryavir on chemistry.SE

tripleee

@DavidPostill the bad NS PR was merged on 9/11 (gasp) github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/965

@SmokeDetector k

the definition of "bad" is very narrow (namecheap.com, some FPs but still roughly top-20 in accuracy) but I'd certainly like to try extending it at some point

domaincontrol seems next in the queue for me

but they might have much higher FP rate; haven't checked yet

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reason/135 is 1461/1494

remarkably, 4 FPs last Saturday; on average I think roughly 5 FPs per week

actually a bit more, 33 in 6 weeks

so 5.5 per week

DavidPostill

3:22 PM

Ah.

SmokeDetector

3:49 PM

New metasmoke user 'HyperNeutrino' created

Glorfindel

@QPaysTaxes FIRE, or replying to old chat messages. /review contains only posts which have no feedback yet.

Henders

@QPaysTaxes Was there ever a way on review? Are you thinking of FIRE?

SmokeDetector

tpu by quartata on https://www.click2trial.com/alphamax-x10/ AlphaMax X10 :=> AlphaMax X10 is a propelled answer [MS]

quartata

@Henders I think they mean why is there no NAA button

Henders

@quartata Well, that's just because this specific one is a question, right?

quartata

3:54 PM

uh

oh

durrrrrrr

Henders

Hmm, I guess my memory is corrupted then :P goes back to babbling in the corner

quartata

I wish I had rebased angussidney's allspam PR now...

having to go back and find where the clean history is if I want to make a separate PR is getting really annoying

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Where do I put third-party plugins for Adobe Premiere Pro CS6? by user790454 on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

quartata

PR #1170 -- Make mostly dots great again

er I mean

make it so that it counts the length of code blocks towards the ratio

ooooookay apparently we don't check if stripcodeblocks is actually a key

SmokeDetector

4:17 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: SQL join misses data from table by Abhishek Gupta on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Are virtual keyboards not necessary anymore to protect against keyloggers? by abhijitr on security.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Document Recovery by TricksBucket on stackoverflow.com

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector v

@SmokeDetector n (but custom flagged)

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Body - Position 96-101: cyber

fp- by Glorfindel on Are virtual keyboards not necessary anymore to protect against keyloggers? [MS]

Glorfindel

Should we really watch cyber? It seems a bit prone to FPs ....

22,300 hits ...

ArtOfCode

we should not

Magisch

Wait

who put cyber on the watch list

quartata

4:27 PM

huh, why was that watched?

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

Magisch

1508787746 Byte Commander cyber(?!\W*security)

quartata

yeah found it

even with the negative lookahead that doesn't really work

ArtOfCode

@quartata wrong question :P "possible", yes. Realistic, no.

quartata

@ArtOfCode yeah I realized that myself after going over the models

they're associated with a post ID yada yada

oh well

Magisch

@ArtOfCode what is your opinion on revisiting our blacklisting criteria?

SmokeDetector

4:29 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Notice: unserialize(): Error at offset 0 of 1 bytes error by Renato Nolivos on stackoverflow.com

ArtOfCode

@Magisch don't fix what isn't broken. Are they broken?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Bootstrap website jumbotron image scaling by TricksBucket on stackoverflow.com

Magisch

@ArtOfCode read upwards a bit, we had a discussion over it

ArtOfCode

link me the start of it?

Magisch

3 hours ago, by Byte Commander

Only 3 hits so far, but I think we could safely blacklist writemypaper4me\.org anyway, what's your opinion?

quartata

4:32 PM

yesterday, by tripleee

^ 2/2 over 14 days ... are our blacklisting criteria too strict? not blacklisting this here and now feels pretty frustrating

Magisch

there was a discussion yesterday too, lemme try and find it

quartata

rekt

Magisch

Ah quartata to the snipe

ArtOfCode

I'd love to have a "use common sense" rule... but we tried that, and we have criteria because it didn't work

Magisch

Didn't it though

Or did we just streamline it because people were having slightly differing opinions?

ArtOfCode

4:35 PM

No, we had endless debates about what was obvious spam

some things really are obvious

That domain that Byte mentioned is obvious, so's the domain that quartata mentioned

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in answer: How to activate sound alarms for the Katwarn app? by Pardhan Sharma on windowsphone.SE

Magisch

I almost lean towards having a ongoing discussion about what is and isn't obvious spam is a good thing

Keeps everybody sharper in their perception, I think

ArtOfCode

but once you allow those, people start blacklisting others below the threshold because they think them obvious, while other people don't

and then we have arguments, and someone makes an executive decision, and those aren't fun

Magisch

Could we just rely on that everybody is mature enough to not throw a fit over a disagreement on a domain blacklisting?

I'm sure everyone here is mature enough for that

quartata

@ArtOfCode can you review my PR when you get a chance? github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1170

ArtOfCode

4:37 PM

ya we tried that...

quartata

I personally think there isn't anything wrong with the current criteria

waiting until 3/3 for an obvious spammer is not a huge deal

although it is more annoying for spammers that wait a few months in between, since our rules want more hits for that

ArtOfCode

3/3 is low... I was gonna say we could look at dropping it if it was something like 5/5, but 3/3 ain't much

quartata

Although I guess the original issue says 5/5 always:

> The site has at least five hits in Metasmoke, with no false positives, and at least one of them is below the default autoflagging threshold (currently, 280) and no older than six months.

but I think most of us do 3/3 for the really obvious stuff

like if it's over the course of a couple days

Honestly, if we moved blacklists out of a flat file and made something that did audits this would matter less

Useless domains would eventually weed themselves out, and we could use the watchlist for things we're not sure about as opposed to obvious spam domains

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector tpu-

ArtOfCode

I did build that into metasmoke...and then we removed it again because it never got used

quartata

4:45 PM

huh?

when was that?

All I know about was github.com/Charcoal-SE/blacklist-audits

ArtOfCode

most of a year ago, probably

quartata

huh

I was more thinking this would be something the fabled central blacklist tracker did

ArtOfCode

though we could do it easily now with SpamDomain

Nisse Engström

Should I report a gibberish answer?

quartata

@NisseEngström yes

SmokeDetector

4:47 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Jenkins not copying folter structure of project by André Gava on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: write javascript in php by Mohammad Rashed Jaman on stackoverflow.com

quartata

@ArtOfCode yeah, although making it remove it from the blacklist would be tough

at best it would be a notification thing (basically half life)

Nisse Engström

!!/report windowsphone.stackexchange.com/a/16410/27861

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What are the limitations of a device with 256 MB of RAM? by Pardhan Sharma on windowsphone.SE

ArtOfCode

@quartata not at all

one SQL query and you got yourself a blacklist

SmokeDetector

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

bwDraco

4:50 PM

@SmokeDetector Political content.

Magisch

@bwDraco ???

bwDraco

Look it up, preferably in a private browsing window.

Magisch

I'm at home atm, I can browse whatever I please :p

SmokeDetector

5:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in body: python basics using tar file by sudharsan r on stackoverflow.com

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector v

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Hibernate - PropertyNotFoundException: Could not find a getter for by Digital Marketing on stackoverflow.com

API quota rolled over with 7468 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

stackoverflow: 426
math: 414
superuser: 97
physics: 84
askubuntu: 69
serverfault: 58
workplace: 44
codegolf: 38
unix: 37
english: 34
apple: 29
drupal: 28
bitcoin: 28
electronics: 27
money: 25
security: 24
mathematica: 23
travel: 23
webapps: 20
scifi: 19
es.stackoverflow: 19
academia: 18
meta: 17
graphicdesign: 17
wordpress: 17
gaming: 16
dba: 16
android: 15
ru.stackoverflow: 15
worldbuilding: 15
stats: 14
gis: 14
salesforce: 14
chemistry: 14
engineering: 13
sharepoint: 13
bricks: 12
judaism: 12

Nisse Engström

5:25 PM

@SmokeDetector tp-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: How to retrieve unspent outputs on mSigna by Eric Lombrozo on bitcoin.SE

CI on 11deab9 succeeded.

CI on 4b4bb40 succeeded.

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector naa-

SmokeDetector

5:45 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Revoke Access to a Gmail User to use Corporate ID by Allen Jackson on webapps.SE

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector fp-

SmokeDetector

6:10 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: What instrument can help increase your lung capacity and vocal projection? by AshleyMauricio on music.SE

Desire

!!/report philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/46796

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How do feminist thinkers justify choice feminism? by DuleKaSehra on philosophy.SE

tpu- by ArtOfCode

Thomas Ward

6:50 PM

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard Henders/EC2

Thomas Ward

!!/gitstatus

SmokeDetector

On branch deploy
Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/deploy'.

nothing to commit, working directory clean

Thomas Ward

!!/git pull

watch it blow up

or something

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4b4bb40 (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #1170 from quartata/dots) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 18975.

quartata

6:52 PM

zzz

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: JavaScript Map not showing after JS Optimization by IamDade89 on wordpress.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Adventure text game by user151888 on codereview.SE

Thomas Ward

sd k why

can't tell actually

SmokeDetector

fp- by rene on JavaScript Map not showing after JS Optimization [MS]

SmokeDetector

7:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How can I get a newer version of Vim on Ubuntu? by bogdanvlviv on vi.SE

Thomas Ward

sd k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Looking for software to combine articles into ebook by Николай Гечев on ebooks.SE

SmokeDetector

7:44 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer: At what age is it no longer appropriate for your child to be naked in public (e.g. on the beach)? by user30196 on parenting.SE

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: How closely does Princess Tutu follow Swan Lake and The Nutcracker? by user36301 on anime.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Deactivate touchpad on VAIO SVF1521R6EW by Harun Or Rashed Harun on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Mithrandir on How closely does Princess Tutu follow Swan Lake and The Nutcracker? [MS]

naa- by Mithrandir

fp- by Mithrandir on Looking for software to combine articles into ebook [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: How closely does Princess Tutu follow Swan Lake and The Nutcracker? by user36302 on anime.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Showing details of a product on the listing/index page VS showing it on a separate page by John E on ux.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Showing details of a product on the listing/index page VS showing it on a separate page by Faruk Omer Bayraktar on ux.SE

tpu- by Floern on Deactivate touchpad on VAIO SVF1521R6EW [MS]

tpu- by Mithrandir

tpu- by Mithrandir on Showing details of a product on the listing/index page VS showing it on a separate page [MS]

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector f

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

Body - Position 424-442: seositecheckup.com
Body - Position 423-442: /seositecheckup.com

SmokeDetector

8:18 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: Connecting UltraWideBand to DJI Matrice 100 N1 Flight controller by Martin Trgiňa on stackoverflow.com

Mithrandir

sd f

SmokeDetector

fp by quartata on Notice: unserialize(): Error at offset 0 of 1 bytes error [MS]

Mithrandir

8:39 PM

!!/report interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/5860/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to deal with girlfriend cancelling weekends plan by Daniel Grover on interpersonal.SE

quartata

wtf

sd rude

@Mithrandir did you ping a mod

Mithrandir

no, the mod brought it to my attention

Andy

@Mithrandir No. No no no no. Smoke detector is for SPAM detection.

Mithrandir

@Andy and for rude/abusive...

quartata

8:44 PM

@Andy it's R/A which we've historically reported

Mithrandir

we've established that for a while

Andy

> SmokeDetector is a headless chatbot, written in Python, that scans all new and updated content across the Stack Exchange network to try to detect spam.

Mithrandir

I flagged it as rude/abusive and so !!/reported it as rude/abusive.

Andy

Additionally, this was dealt with in TL. You are in there. There is no need to bring it here.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, bad keyword with email in body, phone number detected in title: HOW TO JOIN THE ILLUMINATI BROTHERHOOD WHATSAPP +13188003095? by illuminati on history.SE

Mithrandir

8:45 PM

@Andy ?

so what if it was there too?

Andy

The mods of the site dealt with it

Mithrandir

yes... so?

Andy

Why would smoke detector be needed?

The mod is engaged in the problem

quartata

sd k

@Andy I'd personally like it in Metasmoke so I can use it as a test case for Perspective

Mithrandir

Why not !!/report a rude/abusive post just because the moderators are already aware of it, if it's not deleted yet?

I'm unsure why a moderator knowing about it already is relevant to this.

Andy

8:48 PM

We don't provide any extra help when the mod is involved. All you did in this case was bring unneeded attention to a problem that was already being handled by a local mod.

Mithrandir

Why not?

Andy

Because we don't have a wall of shame.

Mithrandir

If that's the case, why would a mod bother !!/reporting in here before nuking... like we have done before?

Andy

Because there IS a difference between SPAM and rudeness

We do not detect rudeness. Smokey isn't designed for that.

The fact that it happens once and a while is a nice benefit

Mithrandir

@Andy ...no? Then why do we have 'offensive answer detected' reasons and all that?

quartata

8:51 PM

We definitely want to detect R/A

Spam is more important in terms of designing reasons is all

Andy

You know what, I'm not in a position to argue about this right now. You want to report rudeness, fine. However, I am more upset that you took this out of TL where the local mod was dealing with this and brought it here. Charcoal users provided absolutely no benefit to dealing with the problem.

quartata

?

What's this about the TL?

Was there something senisitive in the post?

I didn't notice

Aside from the obvious

Mithrandir

it was originally mentioned in the TL, where I saw it, so I went and flagged it as rude/abusive and then !!/reported it like I do for every other post I flag as spam or rude/abusive.

I'm guessing this comes down to a fundamental disagreement between Andy and I about whether Charcoal is there to provide on the spot help in deleting it or not. I'd say that yes, we are, but that's not our only purpose.

We have metasmoke and stuff to help further our detection for later cases.

And the more things we have in MS, the more we can work on our spam and rude/abusive detection.

Yes, Charcoal is the 'spam' spot. But we do also deal with rude/abusive stuff, and you can't deny that.

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