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Q: "On your keyboard, idiot!" - clickable scolding <kbd>s

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Where's smoke detector when I want to make fun of someone? :(

Wait, 900 km/h is actually really !@#$ing fast!

@hichris123 Oh yes, the stupid thing kept bringing that up as offensive whenever I edited it.

@AnnonomusPerson Well, the whole post is CW now.

Annonomus Person

Yeah

sigh

I almost feel like making you chat ban me for a bit. :P

(please...)

Annonomus Person

19 secs ago, by hichris123

(please...)

12:04 AM

rofl

Annonomus Person

@hichris123 Since you said so :P ^^^^

JK I'm not that mean

@AnnonomusPerson ... or are you? :P

waits for ban

Annonomus Person

Music plays

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN

[To be continued]

@AnnonomusPerson What happened to your daily mod show?

Annonomus Person

Ahh yes...

Hmm.....

Uhhh never though this through.

Actually, since it was a holiday yesterday all of my writers got the day off so we don't have any show this week... tune in for random music from random movies!!!

And images of burnt popcorn for @hichris123!

12:07 AM

:(

Annonomus Person

;)

> 0 followers, 1 questions

:(

doesn't want giant S coming after me

Annonomus Person

I haven't worked with him on Charcoal itself (particularly because of my laziness: I haven't set up Github on my new computer :P), but I often hang out in the same chatrooms as him. I also agree that he would be a particularly exceptional candidate because he is very committed to SE in general and he has two moderators to go to if he needs help, not including the entire TL chatroom. — Annonomus Person 11 secs ago

@AnnonomusPerson dundundun.net

Annonomus Person

lol

12:09 AM

Apr 18 at 0:48, by Doorknob

Lol I forgot I changed my friend's ringtone so my phone suddenly went DUN DUN DUUNNNNN! in my pocket O_o

@hichris123 DUN DUN DUN is the gift that just keeps giving!

lol

12:35 AM

> We are sending out some fun welcome packages soon to all our new students. This package is being shipped to the address you listed on your Melange profile. These should be in your possession by the start of coding. Please don't email me about the welcome packages unless you have not received them by Friday, 23 May, 2014

:D

Getting two mozilla tshirts, possibly a third (bug bounty+tshirt!), and now google swag :D

(If you don't already know, I got selected for Google Summer of Code under Mozilla )

@ManishEarth ... what did you do to markdown?

It hates you for some reason.

http

Ah.

Cool! :D

1:07 AM

in Earth Science, 1 min ago, by Mew

@hichris123, I support your moderator nomination, I can't let moderation go to people like Neo

Eeek!

What do I say?

1:27 AM

I could have eaten the Midwest? :P

Sounds dusty.

Yeah, eek.

Oooh, ES nominations? goes to recommend @hichris

@Doorknob cough :P

laughs at the Doorknob

I highly support this candidate! hichris is active in the same chatrooms that I often am, talking about SE and mod-y stuff, and he's definitely dedicated to moderating SE and would make a great mod for ES. Vote for hichris! — Doorknob 6 secs ago

:D

1:39 AM

Bettar?

@Undo @Annon @Doorknob Added acceptance

yay :D

nominates @Doorknob

Wait, what? :P

rofl

Undo gets all of the notifications, since he's the post owner. :D

@Doorknob around?

@hichris123 No

1:50 AM

193

Proposed Q&A site for data Science professionals, Machine Learning specialists, and those interested in learning more about the field.

Currently in commitment.

^ Might be interesting to you

I know, I'm currently actually writing up a Area 51 Discussion post about that and committing :P

@Doorknob ... really? rofl

@AnnonomusPerson I'm highly offended you left me out :P (granted, I'm more of a quieter person, but I am there!) — Seth 2 mins ago

rofl

@Seth you're not backwards. :(

I like obfuscated Seth better.

Oh, Manish is in here sometimes too.

So... that's four mods? Eeeeek!

Wait, why is Shog9 lurking in here?

@michaelb958 When it was the replacement Tavern.

ahem ahem

Oh ok :P

1:55 AM

Apr 17 at 0:28, by badp

room topic changed to HAPPENING CENTRAL: Emergency fallout shelter for the MSE split. Usually where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: http://www.erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & http://www.erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev (no tags)

@hichris123 Yeah, but I thought the cheese-moved brigade would have left by now...

@michaelb958 Hey, what can I say? Shog lurks everywhere.

Eeek!

I think the 10k queue is gone!

@hichris123 Yep, that happened a few weeks ago

@hichris123 And I never got to see it.

@Doorknob ... it did?

2:00 AM

Yeah, the meta post just got [meta-tag:status-completed].

> /tools/flagged is no more. Disputed flags are still a thing, but disputes are situations observed by the system, not explicit actions. The guidance for new 10K users has been revised: stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools

6 minutes ago.

@michaelb958 Yup.

21

A: Let's get rid of the 10K flag queue

This is done: /tools/flagged is no more. Disputed flags are still a thing, but disputes are situations observed by the system, not explicit actions. The guidance for new 10K users has been revised: http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools Not an Answer flags now feed into the Lo...

@hichris123 Only on meta.

@michaelb958 Just goes to show @Shog hasn't closed his browser or shut down his computer since the split.

@Shog9 The cheese-moving has finished. You can leave now.

Annonomus Person

2:15 AM

@Seth What do you mean that I left you out? With pings (in chat)?

@michaelb958 Shh! I like having my own Shog to bother!

Annonomus Person

@hichris So far, it looks like you'll get ♦. Hmm... Downvote :P

Just kidding

So [assuming you get mod] are you ready to deal with the ~~pain in the _____~~ difficulties of moderator status?

@AnnonomusPerson Explain why you voted the way you did. ;)

Annonomus Person

@hichris123 I haven't left a comment yet :P

> I downvoted because I don't trust @hichris with a hammer. Something bad would happen when someone at SE hands over a diamond to him without receiving a huge grant from his father.

@AnnonomusPerson Yes, because EasyBib is being really annoying right now.

:P

Hopefully yes.

Annonomus Person

2:19 AM

I've used it before, and it's convenient compared to moderator sometimes :P

> I haven't worked with him on Charcoal itself (particularly because of my laziness: I haven't set up Github on my new computer :P), but I often hang out in the same chatrooms as him. I also agree that he would be a particularly exceptional candidate because he is very committed to SE in general and he has two moderators to go to if he needs help, not including the entire TL chatroom.

@AnnonomusPerson EasyBib?

I'm not really offended either.

Annonomus Person

@Seth You realize I left out @Undo :P

I mean I don't talk about myself in the third person! Yeah!

... or do you? :P

Annonomus Person

2:24 AM

Anno doesn't do that.

He is a very considerate person and wouldn't leave @Seth out.

How dare you offend him?

@AnnonomusPerson Oh.. lol.

I was sure you were talking about yourself and Undo.

Annonomus Person

:D

Which would be understandable since I take more of a backseat in this room ;)

And again, just to be doubly clear, I wasn't ever offended.

Annonomus Person

user image

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Related ^^^^

I hope the :P made that clear, but better make sure.

2:27 AM

@AnnonomusPerson rofl

@AnnonomusPerson ahahaha.

Reminds me of something.

Not exactly related but still.

Annonomus Person

@Seth Yeah I know it was just ~~to blame @Undo~~ talk about my mistakes!!!! Yeah!

user image

3

rofl

"Skype for Linux"

== Windows instructions.

Annonomus Person

Took me a minute to figure that out but :D

Is it odd to anyone else how most people look at you weirdly when you laugh at an error like that, but all of us geeks think it's funny?

And IDK if even the non-technical xkcd jokes would be funny to non-geeks. It's almost like a different culture.

2:30 AM

@AnnonomusPerson It is.

Annonomus Person

I know.

Hums "We're a couple of misfits" from Rudolph

:P

Well gotta go!

Bye @Undo @Seth!!!

Good luck @hichris123

@AnnonomusPerson See ya later!

3:02 AM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/22663740/…

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/23209570/…

3:19 AM

@michaelb958 The cheese-moving is not finished. The cheese-moving will never be finished. The cheese-moving has always been unfinished. The cheese-moving with not be televised, brother.

No kinky video about cheese moving??? what kind of monster are you @Shog9

A text-based one

oh god, is perl!

13 hours later…

4:19 PM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/23224114/…

5:13 PM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/23155658/…

5:25 PM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/16916086/…

6:05 PM

Oooh, data science reached 100% commitment

2 hours later…

7:42 PM

Oy.

Ooh, yay @Doorknob!

8:20 PM

@Undo around?

YOU BORKED BLAZE!

I DID?

wut did I do?

... looks at code

Ah crap

goes to fix

@Undo rofl

All fixied.

Go forth and find crap

8:23 PM

rofl

This is what happens when I commit before testing because "it's a trivial change"

Yup. :P

@hichris123 What does the graph thing look like for you on github.com/Undo1?

@Undo What do you mean?

what's the contribution chart thingy look like?

user image

^ For me.

Someone told me it looks different to others.

8:27 PM

Gimme a sec.

user image

^ That.

yeah, a little different.

odd

Huh.

Oh, private repos @Undo?

Ohhhh

that might be it

@Undo Maybe I am trying a bit too hard, but it's not for me, nor the diamond. No, it's for the site. I think it has a lot of potential, and hopefully I can help guide the site. I would like to help out, and it's kinda hard to be a guiding voice when you're a 2k, 4k rep user without a diamond.

You're doing fine ;)

8:36 PM

>
iTunes

v11.1.5.5 available
Estimated size is 142 MB

Eeek!

142MB is like nothing

@Undo But... it's iTunes!

I never use iTunes. :P

... then delete it? :P

@Undo Meh, too much work. :P

ha

Annonomus Person

8:47 PM

I wonder who the third mod will be on ES: only three really accepted, and one of them has -8 votes....

I need to become a mod somewhere. Soon this room will have a 3 (Undo, hichris, Annonomus) to 1 (me) mod:mortal ratio D:

Annonomus Person

ES??? :P

Maybe the new Data Science or Puzzling proposals on A51 :P

Speaking of which, commit to Puzzling, everyone!

154

Proposed Q&A site for those who study the creation and solving of puzzles.

Currently in commitment.

Annonomus Person

@Doorknob It's puzzling what people will ask on that site!!!'

9:02 PM

Lol

Annonomus Person

Symbol crash

@Doorknob Er... how about Seth and Manish?

And Blaze is a mortal!

D: I just got a password emailed to me. plzsendtehpitchforks

@hichris123 ES just hit public beta

Annonomus Person

9:32 PM

@Undo givmesthecodes (not reallyz)

And you wonder why I don't trust you with my data :D

hahaha

Annonomus Person

@Undo Try ob_clean() before sending email?!?!

[status-not-by-design!!!!!!!!!!]

[status-[bad word here]!!!!]

9:48 PM

@Undo ... you're not late. :P

in Earth Science, 4 hours ago, by gerrit

Looks like we're public now

@Undo ... from whom?

a site

not SE

... which site?

wants to know who to hack

You have a question in the Hot Network list already :D

Yay! :D

> profile views 42

:D

Annonomus Person

10:03 PM

You even admit that you've had disagreements. I value your honesty, but are you really the best leader for this site when you're suggesting closing a good, on topic question? I'm not so sure that you would be the best for this position. — Annonomus Person 17 secs ago

@AnnonomusPerson Could I get some context here? Linky plz?

Annonomus Person

There's a link built in + you commented on this post 8 minutes ago :P

On the same answer, not just the question :D

No, a link to what specifically that user did

I just assumed, since I saw the word "forum" :P

Annonomus Person

One second...

Why am I surrounded by people 5 years younger than me?

10:06 PM

Lol

Annonomus Person

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Q: Should we close questions with many upvotes?

Many of the questions asked but have received a few close votes have +10 or more net upvotes. Now since we are in private beta, an upvote indicates approval of a question. So if 6 more users have indicated that the question is a good question, should we still vote to close such questions (which...

discussion vote-to-close

I feel so unintelligent realizing that

@AnnonomusPerson Thanks

Annonomus Person

IDK why there's no downvotes.

@Doorknob Yep

@AnnonomusPerson ... we already downvoted too much. :P

-5

Q: Why are my questions being closed when others are not?

EnergyNumbers, who has only made 1 original contribution to this site apart from hundreds of close votes, and possibly others have voted to close a few of my questions for being too basic. This is fine, but I consider this bullying when they are singling out my questions, rather than looking at ...

Annonomus Person

10:08 PM

@hichris123 :P

@AnnonomusPerson Hmm, I don't see anything wrong with that question...

@hichris123 Oh.

:P

Well that makes more sense

@Doorknob Check the rev history.

@hichris123 ... Oh.

:P

@Annon rofl you're getting a lot of notifications from this. :P

(the nomination question)

Annonomus Person

@Doorknob Their logic doesn't make sense to me... close a question because people think it's good or they saw a kitten???

@hichris123 Not too many... just two comments and two "groups" of answers posted

@hichris I badly want to answer to the close question:

> You're totally right. I think though, instead of closing, we should downvote the question to at least only 8 votes to make sure that, if someone upvotes and likes this question, we still have a little padding before we get to ten votes.

10:19 PM

:P

Annonomus Person

:D Just kidding.... IMO the user didn't know what closing was really for....

But if they don't know what it's for, I don't know how much I trust them as ♦ :/

Luckily, their votes aren't binding....

@hichris How's Insta (insert word here!) going?

:P

@AnnonomusPerson Uh... :P

Not much further.

Annonomus Person

Do you remember that joke?

@Undo was there also....

huh?

Annonomus Person

2 mins ago, by Annonomus Person

@hichris How's Insta (insert word here!) going?

10:27 PM

Don't remember it...

Annonomus Person

Huh... must have really good memory then.

@Undo @hichris123 was having issues with InstaGlass and I said he should call it "Insta-[insert work like a structure that holds a reservoir of water and generates hydroelectric power]"

heh

Annonomus Person

A.K.A. "Insta-Dam"

(With a different spelling)

But @Undo do you still have that link to free hosting?

openshift.com?

Annonomus Person

Yeah thanks!

> You may not post or transmit through this website advertising or commercial solicitations; promotional materials , political campaign materials; chain letters; mass mailings

Awwh no Google Adsense.... guess that'll make me get off of their hosting quicker :P

10:48 PM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/23213730/…

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/16831328/…

@Undo rofl, formatting? :P

huh?

@Undo On that spam post.

oh, they didn't format their code right. So I helped them :P

And then noticed it was spam.

Annonomus Person

Lol

10:53 PM

[Blaze] answer flagged by Undo: stackoverflow.com/questions/16097929/…

Annonomus Person

Wow I need a new mouse. I click once and it clicks twice... almost as bad as when it didn't click.

Also five years oldish....

> helpful flags 3000

:D

Annonomus Person

> helpful flags 100

Not as good :D

Goes back to code

> profile views 1,200
helpful flags 3000

Both round numbers. :P

goes to visit hichris' profile

11:00 PM

Eeek! :P

Annonomus Person

@Undo You've probably already done that

> Welcome, @Anno â™¦

Maybe ob_clean(); wasn't such a good idea :P

@Undo WELP, Blaze is crazy D:

Define crazy, @Braiam

Annonomus Person

I'm crazy, and so is Steve Jobs!!!!

you need to define maximum width for the code blocks

11:03 PM

@Braiam Ah, yeah. I've tried :'(

Annonomus Person

Hey who edited that :P

@Braiam If you can find a way to fix it, please fork and fix. Please!

@AnnonomusPerson Not me. whistles

Hey, you can't blame me right now.

Annonomus Person

Bad @hichris....

This room was placed in timeout for 5 seconds; the topic of this room is "Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev."; - conversation should be limited to that topic.

@AnnonomusPerson You'll never know >:D

11:04 PM

hi

Annonomus Person

Look what you did :P

:P

@AnnonomusPerson I can still talk. :D

Annonomus Person

@hichris123 Yeah you're owner, right? :D

Ya.

Annonomus Person

I knew that, I just wanted to show off my diamondpowazz

11:05 PM

hichris123 has added Annonomus Person to the list of this room's owners.

hichris123 has removed Annonomus Person from the list of this room's owners.

Just had to, sorry. :P

Annonomus Person

Haha! Who's laughing now!

:(

@AnnonomusPerson ಠ_ಠ

Annonomus Person

@Undo No idea, but JS if width > 500 {element.css.width = 500}

Sorry for my psuedocode type thing

11:07 PM

yeah, maybe

Annonomus Person

Too lazy to get a fork out of the kitchen

@Undo .post {max-width: somenicewidth}

Okay, shall try.

Annonomus Person

@Braiam: Visit this link >:)

@AnnonomusPerson what should I see?

Annonomus Person

11:09 PM

hichris's user profile... he has 1200 profile views and I want to make it 1201...

If you mouse over it, it's a SE domain....

Or use inspect element

@AnnonomusPerson ಠ_ಠ

Annonomus Person

Aww still 1200

> profile views 752,515

Jon Skeet FTW!!!

11:22 PM

@Undo edit plz.

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Q: Free web service for consumer drug information

I want to know if there are web services that provide consumer drug information like side effects, the drugs composition(ingredients), manufacturer, warnings related to the drug....so on.If you know one, Please tell me as I need it desperately. Thanks in advance.

Annonomus Person

11:35 PM

@Undo:

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Q: Which language for my needs?

Background: I have a job as a programmer currently using proprietary software for writing applications for a private company(I can't explain), so am a bit rusty on consumer software. I have rough knowledge in C#, ASP.Net, JavaScript(jquery, ajax, json), PHP, HTML5, CSS3, SQL, and a few command li...

On topic?

@hichris How many characters should I allocate for tags in me app?

@AnnonomusPerson I dunno

Annonomus Person

Me will do 60

If someone needs more than 60 characters to tag something, I'll just tell them to get a life :P

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