Charcoal HQ

hichris123

21:00

@Seth ... because of Shog.

9 hours ago, by 3ventic

@Shog9 could change the parent site back to no parent

He never fixed it. :(

Undo

I should go hunt down an SO mod. Maybe they can fix it

hichris123

Hmm...

goes to answer more Earth Science questions

Seth

poke @Shog9

hichris123

hides

Doorknob

celebrates victory

I finally got the chat websockets to work

Undo

21:03

Really?

@ManishEarth ^

Doorknob

Actually, Manish told me how a while ago but I never got around to doing it

They require a valid Origin: header

And apparently the Python client is buggy with headers

Undo

@hichris123 The SO mods aren't able to change the room parent :(

Ya know what, I'm gonna try faking post requests.

Doorknob

Now to decipher what these cryptic things I'm getting back from the socket mean

hichris123

@Undo Aww. :(

Shog9

What is this room?

Undo

21:05

It's where we talk about things, @Shog9.

Like comments and websockets and flags.

Shog9

Ok, so it's not site-specific.

Undo

Right

Doorknob

A wild @Shog9 appeared

hichris123

Yup.

Doorknob

Yay, now Shog can move this room and I'll use it for testing the websockets! :P

(By sekritly listening in on you via Ruby)

Undo

21:06

Oh hi @Doorknob.

@Doorknob rm -rf * --no-preserve-root

Shog9

Seems fine where it is then.

Undo

okay

Doorknob

@Undo Heh I'm on Windows and it doesn't eval messages :P

@Shog9 But it's not related to SO.

hichris123

@Shog9 The mSO theme is weird though.

Shog9

@Doorknob is it related to anything?

Doorknob

21:07

@Shog9 Well, Charcoal and Blaze are generic SE apps

Undo

well one could say it's related to The Stack Exchange Network.

Doorknob

So yes, it's related to Stack Exchange :P

Yeah that.

3ventic

It used to be under chemistry, then it went without a parent site until yesterday

hichris123

[status-completed]

Aww, that doesn't work here? :(

badp

@Shog9 if it is related to anything it's MSE

or even StackApps

3ventic

21:09

Both of them would be pretty accurate, I guess

badp

(although my understanding is that here alternate APIs than the official are developed and used so StackApps wouldn't be very appropriate)

Doorknob

The Ruby bot is currently listening in :P

Undo

Basically we do anything we want here. Mostly techy :P

badp

die() unless Doorknob is_nice?

Doorknob

:opened
[:message, "{\"r11540\":{\"t\":27838613,\"d\":1},\"r240\":{\"t\":27838613,\"d\":1}}"]
[:message, "{\"r11540\":{\"e\":[{\"event_type\":2,\"time_stamp\":1397768981,\"content\":\"(although
my understanding is that here alternate APIs than the official are developed and used so StackApps w
ouldn\\u0026#39;t be very appropriate)\",\"id\":27838614,\"user_id\":27,\"user_name\":\"badp\",\"roo
m_id\":11540,\"room_name\":\"Charcoal HQ\",\"message_id\":15019815,\"message_edits\":1}],\"t\":27838
614,\"d\":1},\"r240\":{\"t\":27838614,\"d\":1}}"]

hichris123

21:10

... as long as we don't bork SE too badly.

Doorknob

^ that's what I'm currently getting

Undo

The lowest common denominator is SE itself.

Doorknob

It's very nice, shows users entering and leaving and messages being posted and edited and stuff

Apparently since I'm in 19th byte it's listening to that too :P

And it's 62 lines of code!

Undo

@Doorknob open-source-plz

Doorknob

@Undo It's in pre-pre-alpha right now :P

hichris123

21:11

@Doorknob ... you could probably do it in 30. :P

Doorknob

@hichris123 And it's in 62 readable lines of code!

:P

Undo

@Doorknob but I want.

Doorknob

It's OOP

Undo

so?

Doorknob

@Undo Let me get it in a usable state first at least!

@Undo I was responding to @hichris :P

Undo

21:12

But you're using it. Therefore it's useable.

Doorknob

It's difficult to use

Undo

So is Blaze at times :P

hichris123

Oh well!

Undo

Heck, Flare doesn't even work very well yet. And it's open source.

hichris123

sigh Now I have to have mSO & mSE open. :(

Doorknob

21:17

It's now pretty easy to use. Ruby code now:

sec = StackExchangeChat.new 'stackexchange.com', 'my email', 'sekrit password', 11540
#sec.send_message "I'm rewriting my spam bot in Ruby"
sec.get_messages {|event|
	p event.data
}

And it's 50 LOC too :P

Undo

@Doorknob github.com

Doorknob

@Undo Fine, now I'll opensource it :P

Undo

yay!

Shog9

Well, looks like I can't even change it. You'll have to bug balpha...

Undo

weird

hichris123

21:19

rofl, badp broke it this badly?

Undo

badp will never outlive this :P

well next time I see a wild balpha I'll bug him.

Doorknob

@Undo github.com/KeyboardFire/stackexchange-chatty/tree/master

Undo

YAY!

looks at code

Braiam

WELP! My code is a complete mess

Doorknob

someone do something

wait not yet

it borked

Braiam

21:33

checks how @Doorknob borks itself

Doorknob

New event: {"event_type"=>2, "time_stamp"=>1397770449, "content"=>"Wait, so is it that there's no easy way to overload functions in python, or that you just don't want to?", "id"=>27839366, "user_id"=>51024, "user_name"=>"Geobits", "room_id"=>240, "room_name"=>"The Nineteenth Byte", "message_id"=>15020198, "message_edits"=>1}!

New event: {"event_type"=>2, "time_stamp"=>1397770449, "content"=>"Wait, so is it that there's no easy way to overload functions in python, or that you just don't want to? (edit test)", "id"=>27839371, "user_id"=>51024, "user_name"=>"Geobits", "room_id"=>240, "room_name"=>"The Nineteenth Byte", "message_id"=>15020198, "message_edits"=>2}!

← 2 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

So that was weird

hichris123

You know, let's edit ES tag wikis.

:D

Doorknob

{"event_type"=>1, "time_stamp"=>1397770685, "content"=>"You know, let&#39;s edit ES tag wikis.", "id
"=>27839447, "user_id"=>103081, "user_name"=>"hichris123", "room_id"=>11540, "room_name"=>"Charcoal
HQ", "message_id"=>15020248}
"11540"
{"event_type"=>4, "time_stamp"=>1397770686, "id"=>27839465, "user_id"=>67766, "target_user_id"=>6776
6, "user_name"=>"KodduX", "room_id"=>11540, "room_name"=>"Charcoal HQ"}
"11540"
{"event_type"=>1, "time_stamp"=>1397770687, "content"=>":D", "id"=>27839485, "user_id"=>103081, "use

I'm getting closer...

It should be working now

Say any message with hi in it and it will greet you

Wait, I just crashed it by saying "hi" -_-

hichris123

hi.

... nope @Doorknob.

Doorknob

2 mins ago, by Doorknob

Wait, I just crashed it by saying "hi" -_-

I'm going to stop spamming this room.

Bot testing room

For testing Doorknob's chatbot. Here's the code: github.com/Ke...

Doorknob

21:58

in Bot testing room, 21 secs ago, by Doorknob

sec = SEChatty.new 'stackexchange.com', 'e', 'p', 13972
sec.send_message 13972, 'Bot initialized'
sec.get_messages {|event|
	JSON.parse(event.data).each do |room, data|
		room_number = room.match(/\d+/)[0]
		if data['e']
			data['e'].each do |e|
				next if e['user_id'] == 110309 # my chatbot's id
				case e['event_type']
				when SEChatty::Event::MessagePosted, SEChatty::Event::MessagePosted
					sec.send_message ":#{e['message_id']} Hello! That message was #{e['content']} and your username is #{e['user_name']}." if e['content'] =~ /hi/

@Undo ^ for your enjoyment

hichris123

22:27

Hmm... should I ask a new question on ES, or answer a question?

Undo

Answer

hichris123

But... then I have to Google!

Undo

True

I got 6000 rep on Space by Googling :P

it can be done.

hichris123

... how do you think I've been answering questions so far? :P

Doorknob

I got my 40 with Google :P

hichris123

22:31

hichris123

437 12

^ Mostly from Google. :P

Doorknob

On a related topic, you still haven't participated on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf yet @hichris! :-P </pestering>

hichris123

@Doorknob Welp, I'm probably going for a dimaond on ES, and I really like the site. So... it can wait.

Doorknob

Heh, okay then

I should get a diamond somewhere

hichris123

... find a site.

Doorknob

searches area 51 for interesting topics :-P

hichris123

22:39

Aha!

148

Puzzling

Proposed Q&A site for those who study the creation and solving of puzzles.

Currently in commitment.

Doorknob

I'm already committed to that one

hichris123

118

Moderators

Proposed Q&A site for people building, administering, managing and cultivating digital communities

Currently in commitment.

:P

Doorknob

Heh, become a moderator on moderators! :-P

3ventic

Moderate the moderators

And then SE will have to moderate the moderators who moderate moderators and it will be great.

Undo

@hichris123 You nasty ES people are trying to close my gentle rolling hills question >:(

@Doorknob But then you have to deal with nasty people who call you a nazi. Not very fun :(

hichris123

22:53

@Undo I left it open!

Undo

rofl

hichris123

earthscience.stackexchange.com/review/close/151

^ There. :P

@Undo Now if I had a diamond... :P

Undo

hehehe

ahem One should not let prior relationships interfere in the administration of fairness and site policy.

hopes I recited it right

hichris123

... but it was a good question! :P

@Undo ... from what? Paragraph 56 of the Mod Bible?

Undo

85. But yeah.

hichris123

22:56

Ah.

Undo

Shog 9:15

hichris123

rofl

Undo

They send a little pocket version that fits into a special compartment in the mod hat.

hichris123

wants

Undo

I'm gonna have to write something like that up now.

hichris123

22:58

goes to answer questions in order to get the offline version

Ohi @BenjaminGruenbaum.

Undo

I'm gonna try to fake the POST request to change the room parent.

goes to set up test room

hichris123

That's... probably not going to work.

But linky plz?

Undo

tries to remember how to create room

hichris123

... the create a new room button? :P

Undo

@hichris123 chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/13975/mustached-octo-archer

room topic changed to Mustached Octo Archer: It was what GitHub suggested. (no tags)

hichris123

23:06

wat?

Undo

oops :P

hichris123

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev (no tags)

Fixed.

Undo

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Meh. MEH, I say. (no tags)

oooops

hichris123

:(

Undo

rofl

hichris123

23:07

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev (no tags)

There.

(IE FTW!)

Undo

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev (no tags)

It won't let me change the host :(

hichris123

rofl

Undo

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev. Some minor change (no tags)

hichris123

google.com/…

^ Turns up SE. :P

@Undo Why?

Undo

I'm trying to make it work :P

room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where comments are flagged and SE is hacked. Handy links: erwaysoftware.com/charcoal & erwaysoftware.com/charcoaldev. (no tags)

I'm done trying :P

I shall now unleash modly wrath upon my Octo Archer room.

hichris123

23:11

Waa!

Undo

whooosh

hichris123

Okay, let's get back on topic here and answer an ES question. :P

hichris123

23:30

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A: What causes 'positive' lightning to be rarer, higher charged, and longer lasting than 'negative' lightning?

Positive lightning is indeed very interesting. According to the National Weather Service, the reason why it has a higher amperage and voltage is: Since it originates in the upper levels of a storm, the amount of air it must burn through to reach the ground usually much greater. Therefore,...

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