woah! I was just referring to when you go to a Japanese restaurant for lunch, you can get a "bento box", which (in my experience) is just a compartmentalized tray for various foods.
@RevenantBacon taking one's lunch with them is a way to economize. I remembe as a kid there being metal lunch boxes (we took to school) that were roughly square, and yet the construction workers all had ones that were oval at the top that carried their thermos bottles ... so a cottage industry in lunch boxes was once a thing here.
Now it's all "cool packs" and canvas covered insulated bags ... all very effective.
Policy question: I have a current question that suffers a bit of an XY problem, although I think the current answers address what I'm looking for. Another user suggested I ask the "real" problem separately, but I suspect it would be closed as a dupe of my current post. Do I ask anyway?
Correct. I tried to generalize the problem, but a user has suggested that the actual intended problem involves some technical details that could affect the answers.
@MikeQ So I've looked at the question, and it seems fairly straightforward to me. You want to know if you can use Shadow Evocation do do, say, Shocking Grasp and have it count as Shocking Grasp rather than Shadow Evocation. Clear enough. Also, the answer by Hey I Can Chan is very correct.
@MikeQ Having a general question on something and a more specific question on the same with (when it has critical specifics) is fine. The specific should probably include a link to the general clarifying why it isn't a dupe (why you think it is, or might be different).
But I also don't know PF well enough to judge for myself, so I'm going of your description here
Suppose Alex is a fighter with the Extra Attacks feature, so each time they take the Attack action they can make two attacks. Alex attacks Sam, a Fighter/Monk with access to the Riposte Battle Master maneuver and the Stunning Strike monk feature.
Here's what happens:
Alex takes Attack as thei...
Classes that don't get Extra Attack that would benefit from a Double-Bladed Scimitar.
The more I look at it, the more I find that these classes kits are either incompatible with a DBS or they have better options than attacking with a DBS.
@Medix2 For example, Clerics that get Potent Cantrips will have 2d8+5 (14) or 2d12+5 (18) damage vs. 3d4+10 (17.5) damage at Level 8. At 11, all their cantrips out-pace DBS.
It seems like Cantrip scaling eventually just wins out over using the weapon.
To make up for it for Clerics, they would need to cast things like Holy Weapon to beat their standard cantrip progression with the weapon.
That's the only case I've found so far where it's worth it over the alternative kits
Factoring multiclassing makes things more complicated
How are you calculating the 2d8 damage? I assume sacred flame but that's a Dex Save which is completely different from an attack roll in terms of damage
I suppose... just don't know that comparing saving throws with ACs is the best idea (advantage, disadvantage, critical hits, all come from very different sources). But that's a fair point
So *obviously*, it varies depending on the creature and the type of saving throw being invoked, but as a general rule of thumb, attacks tend to land more often than saving throws will fail. This boils down to a couple of factors:
- Ties always go to the person performing the action. So Attack Rolls will succeed when the roll matches the AC, but Saving Throws will succeed (meaning the effect fails) when the roll matches the DC. - Methods of gaining advantage on attack rolls tend to be more common than methods of conferring disadvantage on saving throws
For what it's worth, TWF breaks about even at level 5 (when anyone who can gets second attack) and falls behind after level 11 when fighters get third attack. I'ts actually pretty much the worst combat style
@RevenantBacon That's where an item like the DBS shines, given that it gives a Bonus Action attack which already has its Stat added without an extra feature
We're talking about in the same situations, where you're gonna be using single target options, which is the only case where the DBS could come out on top at all
@Axoren Counterpoint: if you're a spellcaster getting maximum damage from word of radiance, chances are very good you're going to be making Death Saving Throws on your next turn. 😋
I am using the double-bladed scimitar with the Revenant Blade feat from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron.
The double-bladed scimitar's special feature (p. 74):
Special. When you take the attack action and make a two-handed attack with a double-bladed scimitar, you can use a bonus action to make ...
So what I'm hearing is that Wizards introduced an item that makes the entire two-weapon fighting style obsolete, by itself. Well, guess it's more power creep
@Axoren As a Barbarian, I think I'd rather just be a Storm [Desert] Herald Barbarian, who gets to deal AOE damage each turn as a Bonus Action while they're raging, no Saving Throw or Attack Roll involved.
> Each scimitar is a masterpiece, and as a result the double-bladed scimitar is an expensive weapon (100 gp) — few though ever have the opportunity to purchase one.
Hmmm, does anything in 5e not simply cost X copper, Y silver, or Z gold? As in, is anything something like "2 silver AND 6 copper" or "2 gold AND 5 silver"?
Well, considering that it's basically a Scimitar of Speed without the attack bonus, it should be a lot more than just 100 G. It's still equivalent to an Uncommon magic weapon.
@Medix2 My guess, detailed pricing like that is more clutter (and math) than it adds to believably or story, so it wasn't used in the setting of prices
I was looking at the Blade Barrier spell, and I was wondering does the spell have a 'front' and a 'back'? The spell description states:
The wall provides three-quarters cover to creatures behind it
Does this refer to creatures who are behind the 'back' of the blade barrier, or does this app...
Suppose Alex is a fighter with the Extra Attacks feature, so each time they take the Attack action they can make two attacks. Alex attacks Sam, a Fighter/Monk with access to the Riposte Battle Master maneuver and the Stunning Strike monk feature.
Here's what happens:
Alex takes Attack as thei...
I am using the double-bladed scimitar with the Revenant Blade feat from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron.
The double-bladed scimitar's special feature (p. 74):
Special. When you take the attack action and make a two-handed attack with a double-bladed scimitar, you can use a bonus action to make ...
