TRPG General Chat

1:00 PM

@Miniman in my campaign setting, there's a town that's ruled by a race of giant pentapods.

@doppelgreener Wait... I'm confused. Did you move at some point? I do remember seeing you more often haha. Now you only appear to show up after 9pm

Someone_Evil

For some reason I had the impression they were also from New Zealand, but that didn't really make a lot of sense

doppelgreener

@Ben I moved from Australia to London in late 2016.

Ben

@Someone_Evil Cos we call New Zealander's kiwis?

doppelgreener

Though, I also became much less active in chat for a long time after becoming a moderator, but recently decided I wanted to change that.

Ben

1:02 PM

@doppelgreener Ahh that explains it

doppelgreener

Someone_Evil

@Ben Well the bird is famously from there, and for some reason the native land of the fruit has never come up.

BESW

Ben

2 out of 3

doppelgreener

oh! i finally came back across the flaxseed oil brand I bought while I was in Brisbane: it was Melrose Flaxseed Oil. If you google it you'll see they store it in black plastic jars. That's perfect. Just also keep them cool.

In the summer I keep them stored in my fridge.

... well, pretty much all the time in Australia I kept them stored in my fridge actually.

Ben

1:06 PM

I think it says a lot about our culture that we make fun of our national icons in this manner, but we will protect them to the end

@doppelgreener I'm in NQ, so yeah haha

doppelgreener

even koalas which, as it turns out, are dumb enough i couldn't say "dumb as bricks" because that would be insulting to the bricks

BESW

What about "dumb as syphilitic bricks"?

doppelgreener

@BESW ok, let's go with that

Ben

You can only say that because you know the drop bears can't swim, so you're safe overseas.

BESW

The only koala I fear is Speedy, and he's got his hands full with the ghost of Benjamin Franklin.

doppelgreener

1:09 PM

@Ben well. you're right. but also i'm totally gonna.

i am totally stunned by how dumb they are. let me talk about how dumb they are.

Ben

@doppelgreener If koalas could learn how dumb they were, they wouldn't be stunned by it

goodguy5

@doppelgreener you have my attention

Hot RPG Questions

2

Q: As a Bard multi-classing into Warlock, what spells do I get?

My character is a bard and I'm planning on taking a level in Warlock. Do I get the 2 cantrips and 2 spells from the Warlock spell list that a new Warlock character would get in addition to the Bard cantrips and spells that I already have access to?

Ben

It's funny... We run from cassowaries, we have a mutual ceasefire with the emus, we dare not go outside some days when the drop bears are out in force, and can never guess if the kangaroos want to fight or just go about their day, but nothing is mentioned of the goannas, snakes, spiders, scorpions, poisonous frogs, and endless amount of sea life that wants to kill us.

doppelgreener

- basically, eucalyptus leaves are neurotoxic. this is the one and only thing koalas will ever eat. you can see a problem here, yes?
- they are so insistent on eating eucalyptus leaves anyway, that they are even very picky about them. koalas will only eat leaves from within a specific range of wherever they were born, for some reason. which is a bad idea if those trees are all planning to burn down once every few years.
- despite that, they only understand how to eat eucalyptus leaves off the branch. they just eat the leaves, right? but if you hand a koala a plate of leaves, it won't know w…

don't do eucalyptus leaves, kids

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BESW

1:19 PM

And eucalyptus leaves would be a lousy diet even if none of the above were true, because they're very nutrient-poor.

Ben

New tropes of my games: drones are kept under the influence by use of eucalyptus; and witches have persian/vulture griffons as pets

BESW

Oh, and eucalyptus leaves are also calorie-poor.

Ben

Blinky Bill was false advertising

goodguy5

I wonder if it's like Pandas and their food died so they're just like "yo, what do I do with this mouth hole?"

BESW

By insisting on eating only food with minimal nutrients and calories, koala brains don't have much to work with. So their brains would be tiny (they've got eensie brains for their size compared to similar animals) and smooth (less computing power takes fewer calories) even without the neurotoxins.

Oh, also apparently they fall out of trees a lot, and having more skull than brain helps them survive that. One can't help but wonder if they'd fall out of the trees as much if they weren't self-inflicting malnutrition and calorie deficiency.

Mark Wells

1:24 PM

When our kid was born, we received a number of children's books as gifts, and one of them was "The Koala Who Lost His Tree", wherein the koala wakes up one morning in his tree, forgets that he's in his tree, and sets out on a quest for said tree, "Are You My Mother?"-style. I didn't realize they were really like that, though.

BESW

(Technically it's not a thicker skull; their skulls have a special cushiony deceleration liquid in the cavernous spaces left untenant by their tiny brains)

Ben

@BESW They are a bit of a oxymoronic marvel in that sense

CollinB

just don't offend one. Have you seen those claws?

Ben

@CollinB Well, genetics often can go two ways. That's why drop bears exist

doppelgreener

@BESW oh, yes, thank you for filling that in. i forgot all about that. they are a terrible food.

@Ben what's the oxy part? i agree otherwise

BESW

1:27 PM

@Ben SyFy movie: Drop Bear vs Tree Octopus.

Someone_Evil

@doppelgreener Koalas or eucalyptus leaves?

doppelgreener

@Someone_Evil ........ both?

both.

BESW

I wouldn't eat something that riddled with syphilis.

(Sadly, that's the only kind of riddle a koala can manage.)

doppelgreener

Yes. I don't think you can get koala meat, on account of all the syphilis.

You can get kangaroo and crocodile and emu meat, but not koala.

Ben

Less bone density for speed and agility, but bigger in general, so they can use their mass to overpower their prey. Claws are just as sharp, and they get a lot better nutrients from a carnivorous diet, making them much smarter than their cousins.

BESW

1:29 PM

And, you know, a diet of pure neurotoxin can't make for good eating.

goodguy5

can't we just like spray them with antisyphelitics?

Ben

@BESW You don't need to be at the top of the food chain, if you're not even on it

CollinB

Also politicians

BESW

Wait, my mistake. It's chlamydia, not syphilis, that is most epidemic among koalas.

Ben

doppelgreener

1:32 PM

@BESW well, both are a thing.

BESW

Also, antibiotics tend to kill the koalas even faster than the STIs do.

Ben

@CollinB Spray the politicians with antisypheletics, or the koalas with politicians?

Someone_Evil

@BESW Fugu-fish?

doppelgreener

@Ben or the politicians with koalas?

BESW

Probably because it kills whatever highly specialized bacteria the koalas use to digest their Death Leaves.

doppelgreener

1:33 PM

that would make debate time more intereseting

BESW

(They pass the bacteria to their offspring... and the chlamydia along with it.)

CollinB

@Ben the latter :)

Someone_Evil

@doppelgreener The introduction of nearly any animal would make debate time more interesting.

doppelgreener

@Someone_Evil you are right

CollinB

debate time already has too many animals, let's not add more

Ben

1:34 PM

[Debating the ceasefire with emus]

goodguy5

Hrm, there's no scientific consensus backing up that Pandas used to eat some extinct creature.

I forgot it's just a theory of mine

doppelgreener

"The Member for Wentworth has been found to be spouting lies. They are to be sprayed with... [rolls wheel, waits patiently] elephants."

Ben

"sir, I'm trying to-" WARK "No, listen! Im-" WAAAAAARK

Speaker: "Please refrain from using expletives in future"

@doppelgreener r🐘

doppelgreener

@goodguy5 i think the going theory is just that they hit a scarcity of prey, and the ones that turned to eating plants survived.

Ben

Or maybe they saw what the koalas were doing, took a few notes, then improved the tactic

BESW

1:42 PM

Proposal: rather than only permitting standing Members of Parliament to speak, an MP must cuddle a capybara while speaking.

CollinB

OR

goodguy5

@doppelgreener if you can call what they're doing living.

CollinB

the only permitted Members of Parliament...

ARE capybaras

Ben

@BESW You know that would actually focus a lot of the course of politics to what really mattered. Motion seconded

doppelgreener

@goodguy5 are you implying pandas evolved into liches?

goodguy5

1:43 PM

exactly

doppelgreener

that would actually make a lot of sense

CollinB

@doppelgreener oh please no

doppelgreener

@CollinB sorry i can't deny this theory

CollinB

but i can deny my will to live :D

doppelgreener

@CollinB that could make things a lot better

[fingers crossed capybaras don't turn out to be quietly lgbt-phobic]

BESW

1:44 PM

@Ben Speeches would also not take too long, because those things are heavy.

doppelgreener

@BESW Do they have to stand up while cuddling it?

CollinB

no more fillibusters

goodguy5

Ben

@BESW Wait, no I did the thing where I confused the large guinea pig for the angry bird monster again

BESW

@Ben I'm talking about the ridiculously chill mutant guinea pig.

Ben

1:49 PM

I was thinking of the angry bird monster. I don't remember what they're called though. This happened recently. Haha

BESW

Cassowaries.

goodguy5

If you aren't reading the last reply to that image I posted, you're missing out.

Ben

Also applicable

@goodguy5 I was also going to amend: rode horse because the brooms are sleeping*

BESW

@goodguy5 I prefer my magical vaqueros as routewitches.

CollinB

....

what?

BESW

1:56 PM

Routewitches, in Seanon McGuire's "Ghost Stories" books, are people who understand the roads so well, who have traveled so long, that their knowledge of roads and their ability to use roads becomes supernatural.

Ben

And "vaqueros" is Spanish for cowboy.

CollinB

...

Ben

[Google strikes again]

goodguy5

THAT RHYME AT THE END IS SO GOOD THOUGH

BESW

Last time that photo passed through chat, I started thinking about a cowboy-as-itinerant-guardian concept for which routewitch would make a lot of sense as a base.

eg, checking the fences as a form of protective ritual.

Ben

2:02 PM

@goodguy5 I've passed it on to all of my friends. Lol

Yuuki

Apr 9 at 21:14, by Yuuki

> My backburner D&D character is a Warlock compelled by the Great Old One Y’ee Haww to live his days as a cowboy: riding on horseback, being the law ‘round these parts, and using a gun-shaped focus to take out evildoers one Eldritch Blast at a time.

Ben

I don't know why, but I was suddenly reminded of the "cowboy and indian" toys I had as a kid. Small plastic figures, and the cowboys all had an incredibly wide stance, just so they could clip onto the horses backs

This was my inspiration for when we played the game in the backyard, whenever I was a cowboy, my stance would be wider than shoulder width

Someone_Evil

@Ben Now that you mentioned that, I worry how much of my idea of 'cowboy stance' came from a similar source

Ben

The movies all had wide stances,though only shoulder width, but there was also an element of "walk like you got chafe" as an inspiration that I remember too. Probably from later in life though, because I know that I didn't know what chafe was as a kid

doppelgreener

2:18 PM

@Yuuki still wonderful

Ben

@Yuuki Addendum: he has enchanted the focus with a minor version of Prestidigitation, to make his eldritch blasts sound like gunshots, and also impressive flipping and whipping sounds as he twirls it back into his holster.

MikeQ

@Ben Eldritch blast's components are V,S, so perhaps the somatic component is finger guns, and the verbal component is making gunshot noises like "pew! pew! pew!"

Ben

And then his fingers have smoke coming off them, that they can then blow away

@MikeQ This could be dangerous though, especially when trying to find a date.

David Coffron

@Yuuki Gimme a one-liner of this warlocks?

Ben

"hey there..." [does finger guns and a faint "pew" in their direction]

[Suddenly needs to leave the tavern very quickly]

David Coffron

2:30 PM

@Yuuki fails an Intelligence check "I can't tell a Y'ee or a Haww 'bout this 'un"

@Yuuki scores critical slaying an enemy "There's a new sheriff in town" echoes in the demon's mind as his soul returns to the Abyss

> Starting at 1st level, your alien knowledge gives you the ability to touch the minds of other creatures. You can telepathically speak to any creature you can see within 30 feet of you. You don’t need to share a language with the creature for it to understand your telepathic utterances, but the creature must be able to understand at least one language.

Ben

@DavidCoffron Fails an intimidation check "yeh've just yee'd yet last haww"

MikeQ

@Ben This tavern ain't big enough for the both of us

CollinB

And it ain't gettin' any bigger

David Coffron

"Never drive drow cattle in the Underdark"

Ben

@CollinB See, if that were me, I'd immediately just blast out a wall. "yes it is". Lol

David Coffron

2:33 PM

@Ben And this is why the city guard is after you

Ben

Also applicable

CollinB

@DavidCoffron Not for long *lifts finger gun

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron yee-haws sadly

CollinB

Questioning yee-haw

Yeeeee....haw?

David Coffron

@Yuuki How does this conflate with the thralls?

> At 14th level, you gain the ability to infect a humanoid’s mind with the alien magic of your patron. You can use your action to touch an incapacitated humanoid. That creature is then charmed by you until a remove curse spell is cast on it, the charmed condition is removed from it, or you use this feature again.

You can communicate telepathically with the charmed creature as long as the two of you are on the same plane of existence.

Yuuki

2:38 PM

The movie cowboys always had strong charisma.

Ben

The character says nothing but a combination of "yee" and "haw" in varying tones

CollinB

YES

MikeQ

@DavidCoffron The cowboy deputizes the thrall. As part of the charm effect, the creature must refer to the warlock as "sheriff" or "boss", depending on the warlock's alignment

CollinB

IT'S BEAUTIFUL

YEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAWWW

The Oracle

5

Q: How to handle "assuming this Jeremy Crawford ruling to be true" related posts?

Since WoTC have officially stated that Jeremy Crawford's twitter posts are no longer official and that published sage advice is still just guidance, I've seen a couple of recent questions pop up utilizing those tweets as assumptions and asking for including their use. Do we just treat these as h...

discussion dnd-5e

CollinB

2:42 PM

@MikeQ or, "Yeeer of Haws

kviiri

The best cowboys do hiphop and opera. At the same time.

CollinB

Interpretive Yee-Haw

David Coffron

@MikeQ i LIKE THAT

goodguy5

"There's more than one way to get the sulfer off a demon"
"y'all done opened a portal with no way to close it"
"Never ask a devil to make a deal"
"A Warlock's just a man with magic and a deal"
"Warlock up or shut up"
"Old Warlocks never die, they just smell that way"
"always drink upstream from the Otyugh"
"I aint never seen a problem couldn't be solved with a fast horse and a spell focus"
"I tried being reasonable; I didn't like it"

David Coffron

@goodguy5 Beautiful. True art

goodguy5

2:47 PM

for @Yuuki

David Coffron

I also kind of like a variant: "'lock up or lock up" (just because word play)

Ben

@goodguy5 That last one is always a classic

And you always read them in the gruff, resigned tones of a wanderin cowboy

goodguy5

most of them were just "translated" from movie quotes, but I thought that one stood on its own

David Coffron

"I tried being Tharizdun-able; I didn't like it" (another GOO)

Ben

"Did I fire 3 blasts or 4?"

David Coffron

2:50 PM

@Ben Are you level 11 or 17? :P

BESW

> Roads want to be used. You get +2 when overcoming obstacles that block established paths.

goodguy5

fate aspect

BESW

> Check the perimeter. When you circle an area on your horse you may choose a specific person or group, by name, to ward against. That person or group cannot enter the area you circled without succeeding on an overcome check equal to your Lore rating--and you know the instant they try. This effect lasts as long as it took you to circle the perimeter, or until you leave the area, whichever comes first.

Yuuki

@goodguy5 "Dead to rites."

Ben

@BESW your genius could potentially help us over in the Corruption system chat. Lol

Yuuki

2:57 PM

On the one hand, I want to come up with a version of "I'm your huckleberry". On the other hand, I don't want to change it.

David Coffron

@Yuuki I mean there is the obvious "I'm your goodberry" but I don't think it's as good

doppelgreener

@BESW meaning if it took me an hour to circle the perimeter it lasts for an hour after that?

BESW

Yup.

> Dead to rites. You were dead for a while, but you got mostly better. Magic treats you as if you're still dead (eg you are immune to attempts to scry the living, but can be caught in a ghost trap).

Yuuki

How would raise dead-esque spells work?

BESW

Horribly.

Yuuki

3:06 PM

Alternately, they function as levitation.

BESW

Only raise the dead if you know who you're raising and how to put 'em back down.

goodguy5

@BESW that's just a standard statement about the metaphysical qualities of raising the dead..

Yuuki

I suppose you're not undead so turning wouldn't work.

Sir Cinnamon

This town aint big enough for the both of us: Ability to locate an enemy you've encountered before if they are in the same settlement as you

David Coffron

@SirCinnamon Especially if that enemy is worthy of a showdown

Sir Cinnamon

3:08 PM

High Noon: +1 to fights outdoors between 11:59AM and 1:00PM

Yuuki

@BESW To give a name more Western-themed, I'd suggest "Circle the wagons".

BESW

> No town's big enough. Whenever you enter a town you know always who is in charge and what their deal is, unless the GM gives you a fate point.

@Yuuki Turning isn't really a westerny thing.

Someone_Evil

@BESW Are these being compiled anywhere?

BESW

@Someone_Evil Here.

Ben

In the chat archives, usually

Someone_Evil

3:13 PM

I was thinking some slightly more organized form, but well...

BESW

I'm just amusing myself and stretching the Fate muscles.

> 'Tain't right. You have wpn:2 against unnatural foes.

Ben

There would be some sort of search parameter you could use to find them all... "> **" when said by BESW

Dunno if that would work though

BESW

The in-built chat doesn't like markdown searches.

Sir Cinnamon

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWildWest

Some inspiration

BESW

Might be fun to hack mission briefings for campfire gossip/storytelling.

doppelgreener

3:27 PM

> Yee-est of haws. Because you're so charming, anyone you take the time to meet properly gains an aspect representing how they think well of you. For as long as this lasts they can't bring themselves to do any harm to you. This lasts until the GM gives you a fate point or until you put them in danger.

(Intended for a genuinely good sort of character, not an evil-but-neener-neener-you-can't-hurt-me character.)

David Coffron

I really want a new optimization puzzle (work has been really slow this Spring), but I can't think of something I haven't done before.

doppelgreener

@DavidCoffron Which build lets you cook the most pumpkin pies in a week? You may start with sufficient ingredients, but the pumpkins are still on the vine in the arbitrarily-sized farm.

Sir Cinnamon

@doppelgreener Can I do any prep before the week?

David Coffron

@doppelgreener Even though that is ludicrous, I want to know now. begins to rummage

Sir Cinnamon

or am I dropped onto a new planet on sunday morning

doppelgreener

3:35 PM

@SirCinnamon The only thing you have before the start of the week is the ingredients and the arbitrarily-sized pumpkin farm.

Any prep takes place within the week.

David Coffron

@doppelgreener rules on pumpkin growth?

doppelgreener

@DavidCoffron They're mature pumpkins, we're assuming they're done growing and won't substantially change over the week.

Sir Cinnamon

@doppelgreener My gut says necromancer to raise some workers but that requires corpses

David Coffron

@doppelgreener standard 8-hour workday rules? Exhaustion variant rules (so you can't just use combat rules for the whole day?

@SirCinnamon You can conjure some people to make into corpses

Sir Cinnamon

@DavidCoffron now we're cooking! er.. baking

doppelgreener

3:38 PM

Any new pumpkins probably won't grow within the week, but you do have an arbitrary quantity of them. Assume each pumpkin's one foot apart in a square grid.

(This means the more you harvest the more travel is involved for harvesting the further ones. Run fast!)

BESW

Do the pies have to be food-grade?

doppelgreener

@BESW A peasant should be able to survive eating them.

Sir Cinnamon

I bet a gorilla could harvest and throw pumpkins pretty well. Chuck em back to the farmhouse which conveniently cracks them open too

BESW

Vegan Pie Crust - baking class with goat friends

►

doppelgreener

@DavidCoffron I'm not familiar with those!

David Coffron

3:42 PM

@doppelgreener It's based on the chase rules (which say you gain exhaustion if you use full movement speed and actions for extended periods of time)

It's intended to add depth to extended encounters (as using the Dash action for 15 mins is boring)

@doppelgreener What race are the peasants? Because I can make a few extra metal pies as a Forge domain cleric for metal-eating races

doppelgreener

@DavidCoffron Any PC race from the PHB.

@DavidCoffron OK, yes. Use those.

CollinB

4:01 PM

lol why

Someone_Evil

@CollinB Why not?

CollinB

.....

so depressingly true

this is quite honestly the best use of my time right now

Someone_Evil

Also, seeing what is possible inside a rules-set (by exploring something silly/pointless) is an excellent way to find and discover possibilities within it

Huh... I could have sworn unseen servant was a concentration spell, but I guess not

doppelgreener

@Someone_Evil Unseen farmhands are totally an option.

Someone_Evil

It's a shame the ones from mordekainen's magnificient mansion can't leave it, then you get 100 for the low-low price of a 6th level spell

CollinB

4:10 PM

this is actually quite a challenge

so many options to consider

Someone_Evil

Though I guess you could use that spell to get a 100-man(?) staffed kitchen for 24 hours

CollinB

doesn't mansion say it has, "staff to create food for as many people you have in it?" off of memory, i don't have it in front of me....

if so, could you just conjure beings and exponentially prepare pie comparative to the amount you conjured?

Someone_Evil

It's a 'nine course banquet for up to 100 people' but using that feels like cheating (and its 7th, my bad)

CTWind

I'm trying to figure out if fabricate can make many pies, or just one per casting.

Someone_Evil

If it can you can get more than one. 'You convert raw materials into products of the same material.' I don't think it can cook them for you though.

You might be required to be proficient in Cook's tools though. (You might have to anyway for this challenge)

CollinB

4:27 PM

i've run into this question before, if i remember correctly, no, they appear as the raw materials

CTWind

I dunno- it gives examples of glass and metalwork, and those are certainly changed by heat during their normal crafting processes.

Someone_Evil

Heat makes them malleable but they are still the same material (D&D doesn't model material science on any level) whereas I wouldn't say a pie is the same material as its raw ingredients. Fabricate is always gonna open a can of DM fiat.

CollinB

glass or metalware is the original material changed in form, but not composition. A pumpkin pie, on the other hand, has more than just pumpkins. Don't quote me on this, though, i'm not well versed in the composition of glass and metalware

CTWind

Hmm. So for example you wouldn't allow fabricating steel out of iron & carbon directly into armor, but you'd allow raw ingots of steel to be shaped into armor?

Someone_Evil

@CTWind Yes. Also as a pedantic point the things we call iron (i.e. cast iron) has a higher carbon content than the things we call steel. Steels will also very often contain other elements.

CollinB

4:36 PM

personally, if i were dming, i would allow almost anything to be made with fabricate (within reason) so long as it's not being used to try to break the game

same rulings i put on wish, effectively

if you are trying to do something dumb, like, (example) "i wish for the villain to die," i'm going to twist it. If you're trying to cheese your way out of a situation like that, i won't allow it

but within reason, i don't care

Someone_Evil

@CollinB 'within reason' is gonna vary between people. My players are also chemist, so it's perfectly reasonable to distinguish in this case.

CollinB

true

Yuuki

4:57 PM

@Someone_Evil Especially if you work here.

I unfortunately could not find a town named Reason.

Sure, Half.com, Oregon exists but there's no place called Reason.

doppelgreener

It amuses me to think that if there were a town named Reason they would have to take measure specifically to disambiguate any phrasing of "within reason" within their legislature.

So would the state that houses them, which would be required to refer to Reason as The City of Reason.

I mean, probably.

David Coffron

@doppelgreener "A denizen of Reason may only house their cattle within Reason. Any cattle housed beyond Reason's domain must be owned by a person who is not a resident of Reason, unless that person possesses a specific business within Reason authorized by the magistrate's office within Reason."

Also, that law is ridiculous and should never exist, but it makes for a funny read

Someone_Evil

If I ever get the power to rename a town or similar, I am so doing this. See also reasons why I shouldn't be allowed to (re)name a place.

CollinB

there's a law, i think in Oregon....?? ... where it is illegal to play chess while waiting for a politician to speak

David Coffron

@Yuuki There is a Reason Mountain though

Yuuki

5:06 PM

@Someone_Evil Also Reasons, TX?

David Coffron

@CollinB RE:

Someone_Evil

I walked right into that one, didn't I?

Yuuki

@CollinB Every time there's a silly law, it's because someone did it in the past.

CollinB

yep...

David Coffron

@Yuuki Yeah, but that's not all; it is because someone did it in the past and something bad happens because of it. Which means this pre-politician-predication chess game caused like a riot or something.

CollinB

5:09 PM

that's what always gets me

what happened because of it that caused the law?

also

pre-politician-predication chess game is something i really want to say now

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron The most likely scenario in this case is filibuster.

nitsua60

@CollinB Other stupid intersections between chess and criminal law

> A chess match between neighbors turned into an eight-hour police standoff after a Bellevue man pulled a gun on his opponent....

CollinB

Wow

musta had a good opening

nitsua60

But if you can find a reference for that Oregon (?) law you should send it to that blogger--I bet he'd like it.

David Coffron

@doppelgreener I tried, but there is no clear rules on how long cooking takes. (The only notes on preparing meals is "As part of a short rest, you can prepare a tasty meal that helps your companions regain their strength."). Nor is there any note on the price of pies so I can't really use the Craft an Item rules. Would have been a fun process though

doppelgreener

5:23 PM

@DavidCoffron oh nooooo!

thank you for trying.

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron So then it takes a short rest. Short rest is 30 minutes, right?

An hour, whoops.

goodguy5

anything interesting in the last hour?

nitsua60

@Yuuki Silly. You can't crank out a pie in only 30 minutes. Of course a short rest has to be an hour =)

doppelgreener

@goodguy5 thanos snapped his fingers and half the questions vanished.

goodguy5

I can't tell if that's a joke about closures or something

nitsua60

5:26 PM

@doppelgreener spoiler-bucky-did-it

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Well, someone started some pumpkin pies...

David Coffron

@Yuuki But is "a tasty meal" a pumpkin pie?

nitsua60

> Ivanchuk is one of the more eccentric characters in chess. After winning, he "tries to fold the oversized winner's check . . . down to pocket size," and after losing, "he goes into the forest at night and howls at the moon to drive out the demons."

new character concept ^^

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: Can you Ready a Bard spell to release it after using Battle Magic?

Valor Bards get the Battle Magic feature at 14th level : You have mastered the art of weaving spellcasting and weapon use into a single harmonious act. When you use your action to cast a bard spell, you can make one weapon attack as a bonus action. Can a Valor Bard Ready a Bard action spell...

dnd-5e spells class-feature bard readied-action

Yuuki

@HotRPGQuestions IIRC, no.

Because when you ready an action, you aren't casting a spell, you're using the Ready action.

Hmm, apparently not.

I was about to bring up that an argument could be made between "using an action to cast a spell" and "using the Cast A Spell action".

nitsua60

5:30 PM

Interesting seam, there. IIRC "ready" has some language in there to say "as part of this action you cast the spell...." Battle magic doesn't say "when you take the Cast A Spell action...."

The whole "use an action to cast a spell" seems (to me) to be constructed to cover both Cast A Spell and things like Staff of the Magi or a spell scroll.

David Coffron

I've been going over the old optimization-puzzle answers of mine, and what should I do with this answer, which is invalidated by more recent AL rules?

Yuuki

Well, the question asks for AL rules, so I'd say edit it in.

Although you might want to use some way (Markdown perhaps) to show what parts were invalidated by newer rules.

David Coffron

@Yuuki The rules between version 7 and version 8 were changed drastically

The entire answer is nonsensical in the current AL

goodguy5

I'd say edit the difference and note it.

maybe even a linebreak
v8
---
v7

Someone_Evil

AL questions should maybe be required to include which AL rules-set is used. It's hard to imagine anyone using old ones, but for future-proofing the answers/question

goodguy5

5:37 PM

His answer already says it's under al7

doppelgreener

Alternately delineate the question as applying to Adventurer's League 7 or below.

goodguy5

^

Yuuki

Yep, that.

V2Blast

6:29 PM

World of Goo is free on the Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/world-of-goo/home
great game

goodguy5

I've played and downloaded on so many platforms

I think that's my second most downloaded game, after Minecraft

V2Blast

haha

GcL

7:04 PM

@Yuuki Also, the as a bonus action bit... can you use a bonus action not on your turn?

Yuuki

@GcL I don't believe so?

GcL

Which kinda screws the whole thing up

Yuuki

> Various class features, spells, and other abilities let you take an additional action on your turn called a bonus action.

> Player's Basic Rules, page 69

@V2Blast yeah but...

@GcL In this specific situation, I don't believe it changes anything.

> Here is my use-case example: Ready a Dimension door, throw a net (which requires you to be relatively close to the target), then release the spell to get far away. In this case, the trigger would be “as soon as the attack has been made”

From what I recall, a turn ends when its owner declares their turn ended.

goodguy5

I can't decide which is better for a net-user.
Sharpshooter or Crossbow Master

GcL

@Yuuki Gotcha... so it's all in one turn. They're readying an action based on their own bonus action?

Use action to Ready spell with trigger, "after I throw the net". Gain bonus action as result of casting. Use bonus action to throw net.

Yuuki

7:12 PM

@GcL Seems so.

GcL

That's interesting.

Yuuki

The question, I suppose, is whether using the Ready action to prepare casting a spell counts as "using an action to cast a spell".

GcL

It burns your reaction on your turn though... so it's not free

Yuuki

Since at the moment when the bonus action is triggered, the spell hasn't been cast yet.

GcL

When do you counterspell it? when it's readied or released?

"When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal"

So it's cast

So yeah... looks like that works.

Someone_Evil

7:15 PM

Did you use your action to cast a spell or just happen to have cast a spell as part of that actions though?

GcL

@Someone_Evil I think you used your action and you cast a spell as a result of using that action.

Technically you're still casting a spell out of a magic wand even though it's the Activate Object action

Casters don't kill goblins, magic missiles do.

goodguy5

I feel like RAW it's allowed, but RAI isn't.

RAF is allowed, so I'll take it.

Someone_Evil

'DM don't kill PC's. Death saves do'

GcL

@goodguy5 I like that take on it. Also, you've burned your reaction so it's not free... and it's hella cool.

And involves a net.

Someone_Evil

@goodguy5 RAF I would just let them take the bonus action before their action, but does require some 'DM-override'

GcL

7:19 PM

@Someone_Evil DM's never do. It's the NPC and monsters who are at fault.

goodguy5

@Someone_Evil that too

GcL

Unless they cast magic missile... then it's the missile.

@Someone_Evil Doesn't have the cost nor the entertaining contortion of the mechanics.

Yuuki

@GcL I think this is why the feature is worded the way that it is, to support wands and scrolls.

GcL

And those music instruments that cast bard spells

Yuuki

And other magical items that cast spells.

Would attacking with spell-storing weapons count?

GcL

7:28 PM

@Yuuki Use action to cast spell out of magic sword. Bonus action to stab with sword?

Yuuki

@GcL I can't remember if there's an item that does this but: 1) attack with weapon 2) on hit, weapon releases magic spell 3) technically, you cast a spell using the weapon, use your bonus action to attack with your weapon again.

GcL

@Yuuki Weapons that casts a bard spell on hit? Lemme see.

@Yuuki Couldn't find one that actually casts a spell on hit.

Interestingly potion of fly doesn't cast fly on you. It just grants you a flying speed. Potion of gaseous form casts a spell on you.

Yuuki

7:48 PM

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Q: Can I get a paladin's steed by True Polymorphing into a monster that can cast Find Steed?

I am examining niche ways to cast Find Steed. I'm specifically interested in ones that don't require me to take levels in Bard, Thief Rogue, Wizard, or Paladin. I had the idea that I could True Polymorph into a creature that has the Use Magic Device ability, or access to the Paladin spell list,...

dnd-5e spells monsters paladin

This has inspired a character whose sole purpose in becoming an adventurer is to gain access to True Polymorph to cast Find Steed so they can have a horse.

David Coffron

@Yuuki If that is there sole purpose, why don't they just be a Bard and get find steed from Magical Secrets

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron Because they're not a Bard.

David Coffron

@Yuuki What are they? "becoming an adventurer" seems to imply they have yet to choose a class they want to pursue

GcL

The defeats the entire purpose. He's a monk. A devotee of convolutionism. To take the direct path is against all he stands for.

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron Not a Bard.

Or any class that can cast Find Steed.

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