TRPG General Chat

4:00 PM

@Maximillian Yes, the one shortcoming of 5e is the lack of the time weasel class. :) I really miss my time weasel.

I dont mind the charisma so much, but it's the being torn between dex for weapons and charisma for spells thats been a bit frustrating

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast I disagree. I like the warlock's force of personality being their power. Though, I do with we had more int-based classes

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel No, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Thief/Rogue

Maximillian

RPG scope creep is something that amuses me in all the evolution of D&D I've seen over the years.

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast I'm only like 80% sure you guys are joking about the time-weasel....

KorvinStarmast

4:00 PM

@goodguy5 As I read the class description in the PHB: all of the non combat skills are aimed at Int, with Ch as secondary in terms of deception.

Maximillian

In my experience, attempting to homebrew a desired solution when no publisher-made solution exists rarely works out in a satisfactory manner in the long run.

Nanisnae

and yeah this game sure was overwhelming initially but I feel like I also may have gone a bunch further in on research than most of the team so far, so Ive been talking to a friend about my issues and I get a lot of complaints about how Im making it too complicated from him so far

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast Then do you also have a problem with sorcerer, paladin, and bard?

NautArch

@goodguy5 same here. Like something besides Wizard.

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 I don't have a problem with any class. Not sure what you read into my comment.

The spell casting attribute for warlock makes more sense as Int, in terms of skill synergy for discovereing the secrets of magic and arcane lore ... per the class description. The class still works fine.

goodguy5

4:03 PM

I mean, I feel like the source of a Warlock's ability is the same as the other charisma classes.

You seem not to.

KorvinStarmast

I have read some comments by the dev team about how they initially went with Int, and I once again point you to the class descriptoni in the PHB.

goodguy5

@Nanisnae oh man... if you think this is overwhelming, you should look at Pathfinder haha. woo, buddy. Talk about too many options.

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Ah, choosing AC sources depending what kind of bonus they gave.

Nanisnae

haha all I know about pathfinder is a friends complaints about only being able to move 5ft at a time in combat?

KorvinStarmast

I never liked the decision to use Cha as a casting stat, but that's water under the bridge for 18 years, so fine, Charisma is a new thing, and it works out well enough all thing said and done.

Yuuki

4:04 PM

Good times (internal screaming), good times.

doppelgreener

@Ben i wouldn't answer that myself on mainsite since i don't know enough about this kind of situation, but my hunch is it's abused gamer syndrome paranoia and time-wasting. either way it sounds like they're being a stubborn git to the point of rudeness and disrespect for anyone's time, and definitely need to just cut it out. maybe to them it's just a fun fixation and they don't get how it comes across.

or rather, i wouldn't diagnose that as abused gamer syndrome on mainsite

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast Hrm. I get your point about "seekers of knowledge". But I liken them more to Captain Kirk, than Spock.

Yuuki

@KorvinStarmast Kinda? Warlocks also draw power from a contract with a greater entity, so I imagine CHA would be useful for bargaining and whatnot.

SPavel

Charisma is the best casting stat, instead of studying the secrets of the universe and using the power of will to bend the world to your desires, you go "come ooooooon" at the universe until it submits

And the squarer your jaw and bluer your eyes, the better it works

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 I also understand the other side of it. @Yuuki in re the will power angle of the warlock as arcane caster.

goodguy5

4:06 PM

It's much more needlessly complicated than that, but yes.

5e is the way to go.

Yuuki

I think about warlocks like certain versions of Doctor Strange. Where he contends with extradimensional beings far beyond his powers so he has to use trickery to best them.

Nanisnae

~anyway I agreed to meet a friend soon, so I gotta get going~

goodguy5

ta!

NautArch

@Nanisnae I do want to reiterate that I think your best bet is to just talk to your DM. Yes, they may be annoyed about your constant switching, but they also probably want everyone to have a good time.

KorvinStarmast

@Yuuki Which to me seems Int caster? Clever?

Nanisnae

4:07 PM

ttyl maybe? :0

SPavel

teleport is just the sorcerer going 'are we there yet?' until the universe gets fed up and says yes

@KorvinStarmast INT is smart, not clever.

Nanisnae

ill make sure to give the conversation another go

Yuuki

@KorvinStarmast A lot of it is bluffing and whatnot.

Nanisnae

bye and thanks again!

Yuuki

Which is definitely CHA.

NautArch

4:08 PM

@Nanisnae Worst case is they say no, and you find a way to enjoy your current character, but reconfiguring to the subclass you want makes a lot more sense thant rying to homebrew a solution in a system you're not familiar/comfortable with yet.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Int is both, but I also see Yuuki's point about bluff.

NautArch

and good luck!

Yuuki

tl;dr mental stats are confusing

KorvinStarmast

@Yuuki Three stats for overlapping mental attributes.

Yuuki

And we've barely scratched the surface in understanding human psychology and neurology in real life.

GreySage

4:09 PM

@Yuuki And the physical stats are any less confusing? What is the difference between Con and Str in any real situation?

Yuuki

> CON: How long you can sit in the sauna.
> STR: Whether you can lift the sauna.

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage The distance runner versus the sprinter? But they do overlap, since you need to be in shape. I can be healthy but not real strong, though. Or what Yuuki said.

Con is also resistance to poison and disease, which isn't about what you can benchpress.

GreySage

The overlap is MUCH greater than most people think.

SPavel

The way I see it is: INT is "book smarts" and math type intelligence, CHA is emotional and social intelligence, WIS is open-ended "wicked problem" solving

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel That's another way to look at it.

SPavel

4:11 PM

They are all kinds of intelligence so the name is not a very good one

GreySage

@Yuuki What is Con except the strength of different muscles?

Yuuki

WIS is when you need to go to the bathroom but are extra careful in not offending any censoring body.

KorvinStarmast

Barker used "Psychic Aiblity" in Empire of the Petal Throne.

SPavel

So I would rename Int, Wis, Cha to Nerd, Prep, Cheerleader

goodguy5

KorvinStarmast

4:12 PM

@GreySage I was on the crew team, and then the power lifting team, in college. Huge difference in how you train. Endurance versus Burst power. (ANd both screwed up my lower back)

SPavel

Although maybe cheerleader should be Dex

@KorvinStarmast Don't "crew" and "team" both mean the same thing

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel No.

Yuuki

@SPavel "Crew" in this particular instance refers to a specific sport.

GreySage

@SPavel I think in this context crew means rowing

KorvinStarmast

Crew is rowing down the river backwards. I was on the crew team, 150#

SPavel

4:13 PM

Why is rowing called crew

Yuuki

@SPavel Why is crew called rowing?

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel It just is, I don't feel like explaining it.

Yuuki

🤔

SPavel

"rowing down the river backwards" sounds like one of those old timey expressions

Also - don't you normally row backwards in a rowboat?

KorvinStarmast

It's what our sailing team called it, as they sipped their gin and tonics ...

A shell

GreySage

4:14 PM

@KorvinStarmast And both use Strength. Just like Spavel said there are different kinds of Int, there are different kinds of Str. And for some reason 1 subset of those is called Con

KorvinStarmast

Have you seen the rowing competitions in the Olympics?

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast To be fair, g&t is like 90% of being on a sailing team

Then 9% matching sailor outfits and 1% doing things

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Yes, they asked us why our favorite movie is Ben Hur. :p

GreySage

Trying to split any of the Ability Scores along fixed lines breaks down if you examine it further, so just don't try.

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage Resisting poison and disease isn't about strength, in the athletic sense.

@GreySage Yeah, well that too *Trying to split any of the Ability Scores along fixed lines breaks down *

GreySage

4:17 PM

@KorvinStarmast Resisting poison and disease aren't really things at all.

KorvinStarmast

My doctor disagrees with you

Maximillian

And now to go back to writing the rich in-game lore of time-weasels.

KorvinStarmast

Some people catch more bugs than others. I was advised that my smoking reduced my resistance to disease by multiple doctors. (Part of why I stopped).

My timeweasel, however, can smoke all he likes and never be ill, since he took the feat "immune to disease" after his third level up

He's a paladin wanna be.

@GreySage Drug resistance is a thing also. As any doctor will tell you, most drugs do "X" to most people, but then you get those folks who are very sensitive to certain drugs, or families of drugs. For me, it is the codeine and synthetic codeines ... so I don't take them.

My dad was allergic to penicillin.

SPavel

@GreySage That checks out, when I try to split ability scores along fixed lines, I typically break down

@KorvinStarmast Can't the time weasel just go backwards in time to when he wasn't ill

KorvinStarmast

To a certain extent, drugs are poisons, which my sister swears is the truth now that she's done with chemotherapy to kill off her cancer.

SPavel

4:22 PM

Or send antibodies backwards in time

@KorvinStarmast Well, chemo certainly is a poison

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Not yet, he's a few levels shy of that class feature. Also, you can only use that ability once every long rest.

SPavel

It's just "let's hope it gets the cancer first" poison

GreySage

@KorvinStarmast Chemo is designed as a poison, hopefully to kill specific types of cells or areas of the body

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel My sister has other terms for it, that I won't use due to the rulez here ... ;)

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast There are rules other than "no stars"? :P

Yuuki

4:24 PM

Chemo is like casting Fireball at your feet. Hopefully, you can make the Dex save and your enemies don't.

GreySage

@KorvinStarmast Some people react to drugs/poisons differently, but there isn't a general "Constitution" that measures this. A person could be resistant to painkillers but vulnerable to other drugs.

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage Constitution is a combination of health and endurance. It will influence such things as the number of hits which can be taken and how well the character can withstand being paralyzed, turned to stone, etc (ODD, Men and Magic)

What about that has changed?

doppelgreener

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Yuuki

@KorvinStarmast That seems imply that resistance to magical effects is CON-only.

doppelgreener

everything in moderation :)

Yuuki

4:26 PM

In which case, some magical resistance has been moved to WIS and CHA, I think.

KorvinStarmast

Constitution: third definition in Webster's: a person's physical state with regard to vitality, health, and strength

GreySage

@KorvinStarmast So Con is a function of Str then?

KorvinStarmast

@Yuuki Which edition? Your HP represent your resistance to all damage, magical and otherwise.

No.

SPavel

"Vitality" makes me think of those late 19th, early 20th century tonic ads featuring pugilists with handlebar moustaches and striped leotards

Sir Cinnamon

Con is your ability to heal, immune system, and general bodily health

SPavel

4:29 PM

Would be a fun character if not for all the casual racism

GreySage

@SPavel It makes me think of people who eat powdered Rhino horn and other exotic substances.

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage Time weasels go back in time to get saber tooth tiger teeth to powder up for medicinal reasons.

SPavel

@GreySage The pugilist doesn't eat the rhino horn, he chokeslams the rhino into a lion and then has both of them stuffed for his study

KorvinStarmast

Naught to do with disease, but for mental health.

SPavel

Time travel probably messes up their mental health a lot

KorvinStarmast

4:30 PM

@SPavel Stuffed with crabmeat?

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Stuffed with each other, like a recursive turducken

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel The Recursive Turducken is the arch enemy of the timeweasel.

cage match

SPavel

Imagine if you had the ability to roll back the clock and "do over" any situation. You'd need enormous self-control to let go of leaving anything "as is" and not save-scumming until you get some mythical perfect result.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel I'd first check for groundhogs.

GreySage

Anyway my point was: The physical Abilities are just as nebulous and overlapping as the mental Abilities. The fact that we can have this discussion at all proves my point.

KorvinStarmast

4:32 PM

@GreySage Yeah, there is certainly some overlap. I can be strong, and in good health, but not be able to bench 270 any more. Con 16, Str 10.

doppelgreener

Historically yes the abilities do get pretty fuzzy at the edges. (And sometimes quite far from the edges.)

Sir Cinnamon

@GreySage I agree with you as well - the times where ive been trying to figure out if something is acrobatic or athletic attest to that

SPavel

Better names for the physical ability scores would be: Punchingness, Dodgitude, Brickocity

doppelgreener

Wisdom is capacity to process things, well, wisely, but wisdom also requires experience and knowledge, but that gets attributed to intelligence. So is being able to figure out what we need to do based on experience what we need to do a matter of INT or WIS or both?

SPavel

@doppelgreener Trick question, PCs never learn from experience

KorvinStarmast

4:33 PM

The timeweasel, on the other hand, never needs to make an athletics check. He's not there, sort of like an amped up displacer beast or blink dog

doppelgreener

@SPavel ha :P

GreySage

@SPavel Kingdom of Loathing uses Muscle, Mysticality, and Moxie

Maximillian

Next splatbook we get info on their nemesis, cyberferrets.

KorvinStarmast

@doppelgreener To understand recursion, we first have to understand recursion, I think.

@Maximillian I thought cyberferrets were only allowed in Eberron?

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast No, you're thinking of cybering with ferrets

Maximillian

4:34 PM

They're being forked into core this edition.

SPavel

And even there it's an optional rule

GreySage

@SPavel False, PCs learn spells and abilities from experience. They get that experience by killing harmless orcs and goblins

SPavel

@GreySage They gain the abilities but do not learn them, as can be illustrated by the wizard forgetting that he has teleport for the billionth time

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage What's weird is that we usually started our OD&D fighting skeletons and zombies. The goblins would come later. Same in 1e and 2e. The "have to fight goblins first" seems to have been a spin off from Keep on the Borderlands? Maybe?

SPavel

You start with rats.

Then you move on to palette-swapped rats.

GreySage

4:36 PM

@SPavel Baby rats

KorvinStarmast

> describing orcs as harmless is rather disingenuous. Ask Boromir

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Mostly harmless.

Not to be confused with a 99-tuple amputee hecatoncheires, who is mostly armless.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Your attempt at reframing the narrative is noted, and deflected 8^D

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast I was just making a towel joke

Yuuki

@KorvinStarmast I asked Boromir. He said something about a captain and a king and then stopped talking.

KorvinStarmast

4:50 PM

@Yuuki Gee, and he was so loquacious during his talk with Frodo right before that. Go figure.

This question makes me ask whether or not one has to prepare a legal brief in order to set up a ready action Two or three codicils are usually acceptable, I suppose.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Cite Crawford or a Supreme Court judgment

Maximillian

Your honor in the case of Strogg vs Dungeon Master of the State, it was clearly determined that going into rage is indeed an acceptable response to increasing hostilities.

Sir Cinnamon

@KorvinStarmast I've always dreamed of being a monkeys paw style genie and readied actions really give me that power

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage Most barbituates are poison, in low doses so that they don't kill you but just slow you down.

@Maximillian Objection, your honor, it could not have been clear since Strogg was raging in the first place

> Associate counsel for defense points out: "That all depends on what your definition of rage is."

Maximillian

Objection, prosecution just provoked the witness. Judge may I take an attack of opportunity?

KorvinStarmast

4:57 PM

Gavel Slams I'll allow that. (says the Judge)

Maximillian

dice are rolled, damage is dealt, case continues

KorvinStarmast

Baliff clears the courtroom, since it's recess and the weather is good outside today

> the timeweasel slyly picks up the judge's gavel, pockets it, and sneaks out of court

SPavel

Courtroom sketch artist accidentally uses marvelous pigments creating an exact clone of the defendant

KorvinStarmast

Who then goes mad, since both clone and original defendant are alive

SPavel

Related to the weasel discussion:

i.redditmedia.com/…

KorvinStarmast

5:00 PM

Oops, I crossed editions again.

Maximillian

Cross examination: "Do you have an alibi for where you were that night, on initiative segments 10, 11, and 12?"

KorvinStarmast

Objection, your honor, counsel is badgering the witness, who is from the wolf totem clan

Maximillian

frantic whispering and concern in courtroom

SPavel

Your honor, records show that the initiative segments in question were part of a time skip, and thus the witness could not be said to have been anywhere.

KorvinStarmast

timeweasel begins to laugh uncontrollably, in the back of the gallery

Maximillian

5:04 PM

"We move for a recess while the defense prepares further divination magic. Casting time is a concern."

"Also the pizza is here."

Dungeons and Depositions

SPavel

"Your honor, the defense pleads not guilty by reason of protagonism."

KorvinStarmast

Or if you live in San Antonio, Dungeons and Dough (You mentioned pizza)

SPavel

"Let the record show that the plaintiff is a non-player party of a combat encounter, with a recorded challenge rating and experience point value."

KorvinStarmast

"Let the record show that I ordered a Pizza Margerita, and got a Pizza with sausage and peppers." An appeal has been filed.

Maximillian

Court determines a settlement of a share of the available pizza, but no pizza dues will be paid by the plaintiff.

Party absorbs the cost. gavel tap

SPavel

5:09 PM

"Objection! Your honor, the court must not allow the prosecution to make an argument until it has washed its hands, otherwise the dice get cheeto dust on them."

Maximillian

Not a court matter.

File a grievance or tort in civil court.

KorvinStarmast

As the J Geils Band once said No Anchovies Please

And certainly no anchovies on the torte! I'll order an espresso now

Oh, wait, were we dealing with practicing before the bar or before baristas?

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Chocolate bar

Judge Hershey presiding

bangs chocolate orange

KorvinStarmast

Sorry, this is the actual No Anchovies Please link

SPavel

In my vaguely communist youth, most of what I knew about American culture came from TMNT cartoons, so while I had never had pizza, I knew that anchovies were undesirable.

Not even Shredder would eat them, and he was a bad guy!

KorvinStarmast

5:15 PM

@SPavel When I ate anchovies in Italy, they were more delicious. The ones used on pizzas tended to be oversalted and in a can.

SPavel

For oversalted and in a can, you can't beat sprats

Salty, oily, good texture from the bones. Great on black bread, especially if you rub the crust with garlic.

KorvinStarmast

Alici like this is how to eat anchovies

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast you might enjoy this read - navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-035.php

KorvinStarmast

@sPavel Thanks for the flashback to the nightmare years I spent involved in acquisition programs. Arrrgggh, I think I need to lie down and snack on some fresh anchovies.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast yeah but in the 30s it was probably way worse

Yuuki

5:26 PM

I prefer lightly fried or dried anchovies.

Actually, I might thinking of smelt and not anchovies.

SPavel

@Yuuki He who smelt it dealt it

KorvinStarmast

5:47 PM

@SPavel I studied the Washington Naval treaty years ago. Man, that was an interesting time in arms control. (or attempts at it)

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast And then it turned out that carriers rule and battleships drool

At least for now, developments in weapons that make it easier to outrange and defeat incoming planes will make them more relevant again

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Sort of. Carriers have their strengths, and their weaknesses. Planes have long ranged weapons as well.

My favorite "the world is changing" deal is the work done in the last 10 years on drone swarms as offensive and defensive weapons. It the next new thing that screws up a lot of the old things. (And I am pretty sure I know the counter but I won't be typing that in open source anything. )

SPavel

There was a good article on Tough SF about near-future weapons

toughsf.blogspot.com/2016/05/battleships-of-future.html

Who needs drone swarms when you have deadly deadly lasers

KorvinStarmast

Navy has been trying to make a rail gun for something like 30 years. Likewise directed energy weapons. (And that's just stuff I know about). Modest success in both cases ... but there's always "one more problem"

Yuuki

@KorvinStarmast Interestingly enough, the Mass Effect video game series has an equivalent in the Treaty of Fairxen, which limits dreadnought-class spaceship construction along species boundaries.

SPavel

5:54 PM

Incidentally, deadly deadly lasers is also how this guy suggests dealing with orbital superiority - submarines that can fire lasers from underwater using various lensing technology and then disappear can fight against a foe with control of the orbit

Yuuki

And, of course, humans are sidestepping it with carriers.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Have they tried shooting the problem with lasers?

Yuuki

> fire lasers from underwater

hmmm

SPavel

@Yuuki toughsf.blogspot.com/2017/10/anti-orbit-laser-submarines.html

nitsua60

@KorvinStarmast good-looking queen swarms?

SPavel

5:55 PM

He does the math on how to avoid getting your laser defocused and its energy absorbed

nitsua60

@SPavel surface momentarily?

=)

SPavel

@nitsua60 No, then you get dead

The better option is to surface a disposable lens and fire through it

Yuuki

The other thing is that I don't think laser weapons in real-life work like they do in fiction.

SPavel

@Yuuki Not yet

Yuuki

(i.e. like an armor-penetrating railgun)

SPavel

5:57 PM

The cool thing about lasers is they can also be rasers

nitsua60

@SPavel How is an orbital system that can insta-kill a surfacing submarine before it gets off its laser shot not able to deal with disposing of the lens before the shot?

SPavel

He mentions that too - slam a high energy radio signal into the enemy ship, and it will bounce around inside if there are any gaps in armor, frying the crew

@nitsua60 A lens is transparent.

Yuuki

Speaking of Mass Effect, it's interesting just how much fanfiction focuses on the First Contact War between Turians and Humans.

With various amounts of "well, if humans were like this, we'd kick alien butt".

SPavel

@Yuuki Humans didn't spend all their time on calibrations

Instead, they had whiny dorks like Kaiden, so nobody wanted to sit around chatting and got on with the mission

nitsua60

@SPavel But it's not the same refractive index as the water or air, or else it wouldn't lense. So it's detectable. Sorry, I'm incredulous at the "we'll fry anything that surfaces anywhere on the globe before it can get a shot off" unless "get a shot off'="stay on target for excessively-longer than the orbital platform would need to stay on target to fry me."

SPavel

5:59 PM

Meanwhile, Turians with husky voices were loitering around shooting the breeze

@nitsua60 I can start copy-pasting from the article, or you can click the link yourself

nitsua60

@SPavel Nah, I'll go sledding instead. =)

KorvinStarmast

Space based weapons ... so much for that 'no militarization of space' treaty :P

Maximillian

Time-weasels have no need for space weapons.

They just choose a timeline where combat wasn't necessary.

KorvinStarmast

Indeed, part of their survival instinct. It also cuts down on the overhead.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast The Death Ray was created to save mankind, not destroy it!

vimeo.com/64522190

Maximillian

6:04 PM

The death ray was created to microwave burritos at a distance but it got a little out of hand on the power and range requirements.

And the definition of what is or is not a burrito.

Yuuki

@Maximillian We are all burritos on this blessed day.

KorvinStarmast

@Maximillian Oh lord, do we have to go back to court again?

SPavel

@Maximillian Probability of burrito: 95.8%

@KorvinStarmast No, this is a job for MACHINE LEARNING!

Based on our data set, you are a burrito.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel That would explain my spiciness, I suppose

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast We also created a profile based on illegally mined social media data, and you fall into 99th percentile for spiciness, and also for some reason weasels.

Maximillian

6:07 PM

Captcha: Please select all photos that are a rebel base.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel My dogs will be most upset about that, they'll think I've been unfaithful

@Maximillian All your rebel base are belong to us. (I had to)

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast That's fine, your dogs are 76% probability burritos

Yuuki

When you think about it, anything with an epidermis is a burrito.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel No esta la verdad, Pavel. Estan los perros!

SPavel

Sorry, we are receiving an updated data set that's been affected by adversarial ML, your dogs are now reclassified as Apache helicopters.

Yuuki

6:09 PM

@KorvinStarmast Yo tengo a key.

Maximillian

@SPavel Oh great that's the last thing I need. Helicopters following me along the military fence barking at me.

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel OK, that means I have Hellfire missiles. I can live with that, but my targets will die from that.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast According to our computer vision, those are Hellfire burritos, new from Taco Bell

KorvinStarmast

@Yuuki So do I, it opens mi casa

Maximillian

Hellfires are pricey, often it's the unguided rocket tubes on a standard loadout, unless armor is expected.

@SPavel ... Okay I am on board for the idea of a hellfire burrito.

KorvinStarmast

6:11 PM

@Maximillian Max, the 2.75's now have an IR sensor. not unguided anymore ... I'll get you a link.

Maximillian

I want the paper wrap to have fins.

SPavel

Also just in case, we have begun targeting your burritos with voter suppression advertisements

Maximillian

"Bombard your hunger with precision strikes."

SPavel

@Maximillian The best slogans have 3 words, needs to be short like "bomb your hunger"

KorvinStarmast

@Maximillian it's called APKWS

Maximillian

6:12 PM

Looks like around 2014 the imaging/targeting suites were updated. Neat.

Yuuki

"Hellfire missiles" are an interesting euphemism for what comes out of me 2 hours after eating at Taco Bell.

KorvinStarmast

@Yuuki Mine tend to be area of effect, rather than point target, Yuuki.

Maximillian

Wow. Guided 70mm rockets. What a time we live in.

Made by BAE Systems. Now there's a company name.

KorvinStarmast

IIRC, the Marines have been using them for a while.

SPavel

bae caught me orderin precision air strikes, still love him doe

Yuuki

6:15 PM

I think I applied for a job there once.

Maximillian

I've been outta touch with advancements since dad retired from the USAF. I used to be all over military craft.

Yuuki

@Maximillian That's what maintenance/cleaning crews are for.

Maximillian

"The APKWS II uses the Distributed Aperture Semi-Active Laser Seeker (DASALS) technology." (Distant Portal 2 music begins playing)

KorvinStarmast

@Maximillian June 2016-January 2017: 200 APKWS used against ISIL targets, including 60 during the Battle of Mosul When you don't want to spend all that money on a Hellfire and you want to reduce chances of collateral damage ... it's handy.

Maximillian

Yeah, you don't need hellfires for light pickups and conversion armor.

KorvinStarmast

6:17 PM

Yep. Nor mavericks. It's a bit like shooting a squirrel with a .270.

Yuuki

@Maximillian Now that's thinking with... ~~portals~~ lasers?

Maximillian

Mavericks were something like 1.2 million a pop in the 90s.

When I was still playing flight sims, I asked dad why you'd ever use standard bombs when mavericks do the trick. He explained the cost difference.

KorvinStarmast

@Maximillian My last RL event that involved a maverick was one we called in from a Marine F-18 or Harrier. (Forget who had the mission that day). Took out a pick up truck that with a AAA piece on it (57mm, but memory may not be serving there)

SPavel

My favourite weapon is still the Katyusha missile launcher. USSR dumped a ton of R&D into having the best rocketry in the world, then welded a bunch of rails onto random trucks

KorvinStarmast

Good, effective weapon.

SPavel

6:22 PM

"yuo see Ivan, if you drive away before counter attack, no need for armor or reload"

Maximillian

Dad got to do a ride-along on a AC-130 training flight. Apparently that was entertaining and educational.

SPavel

Infantry hated them because their positions would get shelled in response but the trucks would be gone

Maximillian

Most of his career though was SR-71 ground crew, then later AWACS logistics & support.

A very short period of A-10 support out in Tuscon.

goodguy5

"Having Trouble Roleplaying as a DM"

All I can think of is "okay, players. You settle down for the evening. Fighter McFighterson? You said you wanted to show your friends a game from home? Merchant and Marauders, or some such?"

-"uh... yea... okay. so In this game (in this game) I'm the story teller and you guys help control the story"

KorvinStarmast

AC-130. My favorite guys during night ops. They made very real "you can run, but you can't hide" ... glad they are on our side.

Maximillian

6:25 PM

AC-130. Like a vulture, if vultures had a howitzer on them.

Yuuki

@Maximillian What about a vulture that has a wurlitzer on it?

goodguy5

Also, what's the policy on linking youtube videos in asnwers?

Maximillian

I'm sure they'd like a flying Dora railway gun if they could.

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Like with most links, I think the policy is to summarize the video as best you can, particularly information relevant to the question/answer.

Your answer should not consist solely of a video and your answer should be able to stand without one should the link rot.

goodguy5

cool

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Yuuki

6:28 PM

And also in case he come to town.

user15026

.....*facepalm*

user15026

(Stupid chat side switcher thing, I won't ever get that out of my head now)

Yuuki

@Ash :D

goodguy5

@Yuuki wat

Rubiksmoose

I really hate to do this, but I think this question should be closed. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/118887/…

GreySage

6:38 PM

@Rubiksmoose Looks like a duplicate

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose Is there a salvagable question there?

@GreySage I looked and didn't immediately see one.

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 That's answerable on this site? I don't think so really. :(

@GreySage of what?

Yuuki

Joe Pleiman - The Legend of Zelda (Link He Come To Town) - Original Flash Video HD

►

GreySage

I'm having trouble finding it, but I'm pretty sure there have been "How do I roleplay" questions on the site before. And that is all the question boils down to, how can the OP get better at roleplaying.

Yuuki

@GreySage First, you must imagine the bread. Picture the flour and the yeast. Only then can you become the bread.

Rubiksmoose

6:43 PM

@GreySage I could have sworn so too but I couldnt find them. They could have been deleted though (if they were closed, unanswered, negative votes)

Maximillian

How to roleplay. Step 1: Stop being you! Step 2: Accept the brain worms. Step 3: Think of it as improv. Consider learning improv techniques! Step 4: Think about film and book characters and their mannerisms. It's okay to copy some ideas at a simple RPG night game, it's not like you're publishing your playthrough Step 5: Join us in unity. Step 6: Keep it light and fun.

GreySage

@Maximillian Pretty much, and I've seen that in an answer somewhere

SPavel

@Maximillian Coincidentally, the steps 'stop being you" and "accept the brain worms" apply to social control in a dystopian state just as well as to roleplaying

In a sort of "They Live" presentation

Maximillian

The hive has memories of roleplaying you may find helpful.

Others may cause extreme pain and torment.

File a ticket with brain worm support if you experience torment for more than a few hours.

NautArch

@SPavel rowdy roddy piper's finest film.

GreySage

6:51 PM

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Q: How to voice an NPC?

As a GM should I put a different voice if, for instance, the NPC is an old sick man, or if it's a kid or even a member of the opposite sex? What advices can you give me to enrich NPC acting?

SPavel

@GreySage Can't spell advices without "add vices"

GreySage

@SPavel ...yes?

SPavel

I'm mostly making fun of the question

but it's also good roleplaying advice

Maximillian

For DMs who really have problem roleplaying with voices, I suggest they don't do voices. Narrate like reading a book. Use key phrasing to define the voice. The king speaks in a low, booming voice, calling out to the guards, etc etc.

SPavel

@Maximillian The king probably speaks with a lisp or something due to being extremely inbred

goodguy5

6:56 PM

you are just really funny

@Maximillian excellent point

Yuuki

@SPavel If he's inbred, I feel like he'd sound more muffled than with a lisp.

SPavel

@Yuuki If he's in bread, he would sound more muffined

goodguy5

XD