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Ben

12:26 AM

What's your best Techpriest insult?

Miniman

@Ben Your brain runs on Windows ME!

Ben

So far the best I have is along the lines of "Listen here, Meatsack!"

BESW

@Ben The best insults have context: who's being insulted and why?

A technopriest insulting another technopriest is very different from insulting someone else.

Lord_Gareth

Techpriest insulting a druid

Ben

12:41 AM

anything that isn't a machine or another techpriest really, but if you have some good ones for those, there all welcome too! It's all just a bit of fun really :)

BESW

"v1 wetware."

It's my personal headcanon for any cyber-future setting I run that Bob becomes a generic insult.

Ben

@BESW I think I vaguely remember that haha

BESW

1:19 AM

@Stephan Hi!

Stephan

hi

Lord_Gareth

Hail unto thee

Stephan

Yall play pathfinder?

Lord_Gareth

No, but I design for Pathfinder

Vhy?

Stephan

o.O neat

i'm looking for a site where I can find character build ideas

Lord_Gareth

1:24 AM

Check the various guides on #giantitp

erm, giantitp.com

Stephan

I've been there, it tends to have really comprehensive guides

I'm just looking for a way to discover individual build ideas

instead of entire class-guides

Metool

@Stephan Hang around here for long enough and you'll find plenty.

Stephan

the chat? or the stackexchange site?

doppelgreener

@Stephan both; we have lots of optimization questions where you might find people asking about specific individual builds, or people here will talk about builds in chat sometimes when it comes up (no guarantees how often that will occur, especially considering many of us don't even play games in the D&D spectrum, let alone pathfinder)

giant in the playground probably has its own build discussion forums, so you can go there and explore all the various builds people are discussing, including odd and inventive ones and etc

other rpg forums like rpg.net probably have the same

if you want to discover a variety of different build ideas, best method is to just go where people are talking about a whole bunch of them

Stephan

1:50 AM

thanks, i'll try the subreddit, and some other forums

doppelgreener

meanwhile concepts from this morning:

Robots bent on destroying humanity because they really really really really really do not like blues music. They have asked people to stop but it has not worked very well. They have tried disposing of blues artists but new ones keep appearing. Their only logical recourse is to prevent new people from appearing.

BESW

@doppelgreener [takes notes]

Adeptus

@doppelgreener So that's why one of the members of The Black Keys keeps saying they don't do blues, despite most people saying otherwise!

doppelgreener

Two alien societies previously at war that have ceased to be: I'll call them Mardu and Temur because I can, even though they have nothing to do with those clans from Khans of Tarkir.

Mardu had a militaristic and nomadic warband civilisation that was fuelled by a war economy, and by constant movement through the wilderness, and raids on the Temur cities.

Temur had a small number of cities, and was very well defended, and generally did not care to take the war to the Mardu: they were content to be attacked, in part because they feared the Mardu and retaliation or advance attacks only made t…

and uh. I think there was a third but I must have forgotten it.

doppelgreener

2:20 AM

@Adeptus and yes this may be a contributing factor

Adeptus

2:31 AM

By word-association, I have come up with what may be an interesting Fate aspect/concept/trouble... ~~Self-fulfilling prophecy~~ ~~Self-fulfilling prophet~~ Self-fulfilling profiteer

doppelgreener

@Adeptus ha, i like it. what do they do?

(if you have worked out that part yet!)

Adeptus

3:31 AM

I don't know. Either... generally sell things at high price, for their own fulfilment... or, create the shortage of goods that they then exploit by raising prices

Tarmikos11

3:42 AM

... Yo.

What'd I miss?

Lord_Gareth

Love, passion, betrayal, honor, death, and the fires of war.

Tarmikos11

Sounds hardcore, should I have brought popcorn?

Lord_Gareth

Only as an offering to Lord Potatothulu

Tarmikos11

... But I can keep the cheesy popcorn, right?

I'm* assuming he only wants the caramel corn?

Lord_Gareth

Correct.

Tarmikos11

3:51 AM

Awesome.

[Gives caramel corn as offering to Potatothulu, goes insane instantly and bathes in cheesy popcorn]

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Has anybody thought about trying to run a game in here?

Lord_Gareth

I believe @BESW has/does

Though @doppelgreener would know more

Tarmikos11

[Coughs and calmly waits for one of those gents-and-or-ladies to say something regarding this]

doppelgreener

@Tarmikos11 BESW ran many games on here when Fate Accelerated came out just to test it out, named the Enchanted Forest chronicles (see all of his "EF" chat bookmarks), I have run a couple of games of roll for shoes

Tarmikos11

Roll for shoes?

doppelgreener

@Tarmikos11 Roll for shoes

Tarmikos11

4:01 AM

That's pretty cool, actually.

The Oracle

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Q: Answers to bad questions

I thought there was a question for this, but I couldn't find it. When someone asks a bad question, should it be answered? For example, this question seems like a very poor question as it stands. However, it has already attracted 2 answers, both of good quality. Is this correct practice, or should...

discussion

doppelgreener

@Tarmikos11 it is very cool

Tarmikos11

4:29 AM

@trogdor TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRR‌R!!\

Lord_Gareth

THE BURNINATOR

Tarmikos11

Burninating the country side. Burninating all the peasants.

trogdor

@Tarmikos11 lol

Tarmikos11

In their THATCHED ROOF COTTAAAAAAAAAAAAGGESS!

COTTAAAAAAAGESSSSSSS

Trogdor was a man... Or maybe, he was a, dragon man.. Or maybe he was just a dragon... But he was still TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOORR!

Miniman

@Tarmikos11 I always thought Godzilla was Trogdor's wimpy kid sister

trogdor

4:32 AM

eh

I still like Godzilla

Tarmikos11

I think they're a pair of masked wrestlers in the WWE.

trogdor

honestly, Godzilla has been a lot of different individual lizard monsters

some of them have actually been female

though not all said individual lizard monsters lived up to the mantle

Adeptus

4:59 AM

I just answered a Pathfinder question, having almost no knowledge of Pathfinder... simply by searching the SRD

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Lord_Gareth

@Adeptus You just demonstrated more system mastery than the majority of PF's player base. How do you feel?

Adeptus

Speshul

doppelgreener

@Adeptus welcome to 14 of my answers

one of which is questioning how someone is managing to carry 200 smashable vials of acid and alchemist's fire, and how they are doing that and not already having been lit on fire or melted from acid

Magician

Bag of holding in an outstretched hand, tossing and running.

Lord_Gareth

I think we timed the release of Path of War correctly: giantitp.com/forums/…

doppelgreener

5:05 AM

@Magician but the bag of holding is extradimensional

idk man

if I were the GM I'd really question the player's survival instincts

and discuss with them the chance of them exploding and killing their entire party just on the average trek

Lord_Gareth

@doppelgreener - Am I wrong for having this NPC name her +1 wounding saber Schadenfreude?

doppelgreener

whoops help I slipped OH N[smash, FWOOOOSH]

Magician

@doppelgreener Has happened to our alchemist...

doppelgreener

@Lord_Gareth no :)

Magician

@Lord_Gareth Cool!

BESW

5:09 AM

@doppelgreener ...have I told the Tale of the Gobber here yet?

Lord_Gareth

@doppelgreener Even if she's a CE gang lord with anger issues?

doppelgreener

@Lord_Gareth even better

Lord_Gareth

Excellent

She's going to be one of the iconics for Harbinger. When she says her sword's name it launches violently from its sheath

Typically into someone's fragile and breakable face

At which point she catches it and the murder begins

doppelgreener

@BESW I don't think so, I think you should tell it

@Lord_Gareth Sounds appropriate

BESW

@Lord_Gareth The Magic of Vague Articles allows me to envision her catching shards of a person's shattered face and then murdering other people with those shards.

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@doppelgreener [takes a moment to collect his breath and catch his thoughts]

Lord_Gareth

5:14 AM

@BESW And now I need to write this PrC

Adeptus

> I've spent the last three hours trying to come up with a good devil's advocate argument.
So...
Pick the ACG because
[...]
-It has true martial characters that are somewhat functional sometimes.
-At least a couple of the classes are legitimately not bad.

I love the backhanded not-quite-compliments to the ACG

BESW

...Okay, folks. It's story time.

trogdor

I am pretty sure I have heard this one

but then that was a while ago

BESW

We're once more going all the way back to BESW's first campaign ever! I was brand-new to RPGs, and was GMing for people only slightly less new to the medium.

doppelgreener

[sets up campfire]

[arranges logs and stones for seats]

[sets out sticks and marshmallows]

BESW

5:17 AM

Being young and naive, I composed a setting and narrative which allowed any and all d20 System material to be used in the making of PCs.

(Yes, this is a horror story.)

doppelgreener

[gasp!]

trogdor

lol

a lot of your stories are horror stories

BESW

(The conceit was that a schism in reality was grabbing creatures from the broad multiverse and dropping them into my campaign setting.)

trogdor

at least to a degree

BESW

My player with the most prior experience in RPGs used the "Gobber" race (a semi-civilised goblin, I think from Iron Kingdoms) and the rogue class for his first PC, and used blackface to pretend to be the drow monk's son.

The gobber was a major driver of plot, as he frequently got radical and overambitious ideas into his head which would almost work--right up to the point where the party suddenly has to figure out how to leave the city limits with a dead body while there's a price on their heads.

The gobber came from a universe with a slightly advanced level of tech compared to my campaign setting, which the player used to justify the first and only time someone in one of my D&D campaigns produced homemade gunpowder.

He also liked coffee, and so his belt was lined with alternating pouches of gunpowder and coffee grounds; only he knew which was which. And then there was the big pouch, labelled FOR EMERGENCIES, which contained an equal mix of both substances.

So we went along for several levels, merrily defacing corpses, urinating on the stoops of authority, and overdosing on healing potions, until we came to a small border keep deep in undead territory.

It was really more of a glorified guard shack, but the party was slightly more cautious by this time and so the gobber snuck in to check it out.

He had a level in wizard so he could cast spider climb, and used this to avoid the patrolling zombie guards by clinging to the ceiling as he explored. Satisfied he knew the layout and danger level of the place, he was about to leave and report to the others when... An Idea Occurred To Him.

Everyone else covered their faces and groaned as the gobber's player got a manic grin on his face.

"There's a guard with his back to me at the end of the hall, right? I light the fuse on a pouch of gunpowder, crawl along the ceiling until I'm just over his head, and balance the pouch on top of his flat helmet. Then I run!"

"Okay, that's two rolls: one to not be noticed, and one to balance the pouch."

Roll for sneaky: natural 20.
Roll for balancing: natural 1.
Re-roll to confirm critical failure: natural 1.

Lord_Gareth

5:32 AM

Wait

Stop

Wait

Were you playing with fumble rules, you sick deviant?

BESW

They liked natural 20s and natural 1s to be critical on all d20 rolls, including skill checks.

The gobber slammed the sack of gunpowder, with lit fuse, onto the zombie's head as hard as he could.

Magician

@BESW "Excuse me, old chap, would you mind holding perfectly still while I balance this innocuous bag of explosives on your magnificently flat helmet?"

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BESW

"Oh, man. How much damage do I take from the explosion?"

"Damage? You're wearing a half-dozen more primed grenades on your belt, alternated with flasks of alchemist's fire." [I turn to the rest of the party] "Roll Reflex for half damage from shrapnel as the guard post explodes."

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Lord_Gareth

@BESW This sounds like a problem for roguespace!

BESW

The gobber's squirrel familiar (he had a level in wizard, remember?) wept at the rubble-strewn crater which was all that remained of his master... until the vampire PC dominated it and told it to stop blubbering.

Magician

5:38 AM

That's just mean.

trogdor

lol

yep, I have heard this story before

Lord_Gareth

And now, amazingly metal League music

►

Magician

Meanwhile, I've redesigned the rust monster in the 5e room, into something I'd actually enjoy facing. Because of reasons.

BESW

While I was locked out of my car this afternoon, I started designing this Saturday's DFAE session.

doppelgreener

The Tale of the Gobber

32 mins ago, 26 minutes total – 50 messages, 6 users, 6 stars

Bookmarked just now by doppelgreener

BESW

5:43 AM

(I may have the precise details wrong; he might've been trying to use a flask of alchemist's fire in there too.)

user61230

[pops in] Hello!

BESW

Actually, wait--I remember now! The zombie was especially vulnerable to fire, and he was balancing a flask of alchemist's fire on its head, planning to throw a rock from a distance to set it off.

But instead he slammed it onto the helmet, and the blowback set his gunpowder on fire.

@Emrakul [wave]

Magician

@BESW Would his gunpowder go off from a fireball?

I recall object damage rules in 3.5, where worn items would make a save and take damage on a 1. I don't actually recall ever using that rule.

BESW

@Magician When he first strapped gunpowder to himself, we'd agreed that a natural 1 on a save vs fire would set it off.

I then proceeded to not use fire attacks against him, because the first rule of GMing I ever learnt was that my players will kill their own PCs faster than I ever could.

Magician

First rule of GMing: PCs will kill themselves, if you only let them.
Second rule of GMing: Let them.

trogdor

5:51 AM

lol

our ninja from our first DFAE session almost got himself killed

BESW

Instead, he was defeated by a cheap motel door.

trogdor

well

he was repeatedly insisting on trying to get into the room of a wizard

which in that setting/universe is a big no no

BESW

On reflection I really should have given it to him with both barrels.

trogdor

even some pretty badass magic monster type things have at least a little trouble with it

eh

@BESW if it had been me you would have

cause I know better

then again,.... he ran into the issue once and still insisted on trying a couple more times

by then I would not have been surprised if you did

BESW

If he'd tried again.

I hadn't expected quite so much perseverance in trying to break into an obviously-warded Warden's room while he was inside, so I'd've had to call for a break while I actually statted up the wards.

trogdor

5:57 AM

you used a ward to specifically scare him away, and I think we managed to teach the player that breaking into the place a wizard sleeps is a bad idea

BESW

Well, now that the Warden knows who you all are... [rubs hands]

trogdor

yes

Lord_Gareth

I remember the last time I was designing wards for a wizard, though this one was in 3.5

trogdor

but my point is that we have hopefully managed to teach him something

Lord_Gareth

Every time you touched the vault door where he kept the McGuffin, if you didn't have the key to the door, one of your bones was teleported out of your body

Magician

5:59 AM

@Lord_Gareth Did it also levitate and whack you on the head, just to add insult to injury?

Lord_Gareth

@Magician No, when you broke the ward the pile of bones exploded into flesh-shredding splinters, then summoned his Force golems

Which proceeded to activate the triggered fireball and chain lightning traps they were immune to, letting them smash you across the triggers

For repeated AoE damage to everything but the golems

Most of that encounter's CR was the traps

The glorious, vicious, evil traps

The rest of the CR was the golems being smartasses

"Look brother! They can dance!" [Kinesis blast into chain lightning]

BESW

6:14 AM

In this case, the wizard had fire-suppression, telepathy-suppression, physical force fields, and a lion.

Wooo! Just had a big long earthquake.

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trogdor

yep

BESW

I'm watching here and here for details.

trogdor

I was about to wonder aloud what its numbers were

BESW

We've been getting quite a few lately.

What, a 5.4 about a month ago?

Here we go.

Whew, 6.8.

trogdor

I thought it might be a bit higher than the last one

BESW

6:27 AM

This one says 7.1

trogdor

that's kinda a big difference

Lord_Gareth

►

trogdor

if my classes were right, one magnitude is twice the power of the one below it

BESW

Assuming they're still using Richter, which they aren't specifying.

trogdor

mm

BESW

6:31 AM

Also, 7.1 may be the strength at the source and 6.8 is what we felt.

trogdor

ah

that would make some sense

BESW

EQR just downgraded it to 6.5.

USGS is saying 7.1.

Lord_Gareth

@trogdor - You got mentioned in the credits of an Honest Trailer

lol

6:35 AM

@Lord_Gareth you sure it wasn't Strongbad, or the creator of Homestar Runner?

:P

lol

Pyro was/is my favorite class in that game XD

even if most people say it's a skill less class

doppelgreener

7:09 AM

@trogdor those people are probably doing W+M1 and dying horribly

trogdor

@doppelgreener yeah

doppelgreener

flare gun + axtinguisher means a trail of corpses

trogdor

not just that though

just knowing when to engage in general

doppelgreener

yeah.

trogdor

and using M2 properly

having half a brain about what you are doing counts for a lot

doppelgreener

7:11 AM

it's also one of the classes where their primary weapon is not necessarily their primary weapon

you might be using the secondary more often than your flamethrower

BESW

I guess it's time to link this again.

Adeptus

Never played TF2. I own it (it's in the Orange Box, isn't it?) but I don't have much game time, so don't want to wait for others to play with

doppelgreener

@Adeptus yeah it's in the orange box; I've rarely played with anyone I know in meatspace

I just join games on the 'net

trogdor

@doppelgreener same

pretty much just my brother and one of his friends

@BESW I like my version better

BESW

@doppelgreener Aw. "Punchspace" isn't catching on?

doppelgreener

7:22 AM

@BESW ..... I am now going to help "Punchspace" catch on

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trogdor

@BESW they both convey the same thing,...

doppelgreener

@trogdor and both are funny

trogdor

so why does one have to catch on over the other?

lol

BESW

"Punchspace" provides... context and a tinge of intent which "meatspace" does not.

"Meatspace" is. "Punchspace" implies.

Magician

All space shall henceforth be separated into Punchspace and Potatothuluspace.

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BESW

7:26 AM

@Magician And if Potatothulhu comes into Punchspace, we punch 'im.

Magician

With madmen, poets and potato living at the ever-shifting border.

Mourdos

8:27 AM

Morning all

BESW

Yo.

Mourdos

Is it appropriate to update an answer from a question a year ago that is out of date?

BESW

Absolutely!

Mourdos

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Q: What are some suggestions for a brawler-type unarmed character in Pathfinder?

I have played a monk before and enjoyed it but I was thinking of playing a character who's more of a brawler than a mystic martial artist. I know there are some options in the barbarian class but what else is there in the game? As a supplementary question, is there any point in making an unarmed...

pathfinder unarmed-combat

Going to add "Brawler" to the list of classes

BESW

You'll get a badge from it, even.

Mourdos

8:28 AM

Whoot

BESW

My "ageing paper" answer has almost outstripped my "don't bury yourself alive, it's dumb" answer.

And it's tied with my "Paladins shouldn't be jerks" answer.

Mourdos

Nice

Right, also bullet pointed his answer. I hate reading paragraphs of text that are actually a list.

BESW

I'm just glad that now two of my top five most-voted answers aren't "Don't be a selfish jerkface."

Mourdos

Is that the most appropriate answer then? I shall have to read your stuff.

BESW

It certainly feels like the majority of my reputation comes from saying "You could be a jerk, but why?" in increasingly creative and incredulous ways.

Mourdos

8:40 AM

Soon, a degree in philosophy.

It is not them that we hurt, but through them, ourselves?

BESW

Nah, we've already got a mod with a degree in philosophy. Needless duplication of citizen resources.

Mourdos

Anyway, I look forward to getting a new badge, assuming my edit was good. HAve you seen the new spheres of power book for pathfinder?

Also, I need to actuall go post or answer something on worldbuilding.

I have a feeling that I'm going to be far out of my depth on worldbuilding

BESW

I... don't pay any attention to PF at all except what Gareth says in chat, and the occasional ridiculously complicated answer to a ridiculous question.

Mourdos

It is... interesting. I can make a tornado at level 6.

The rules for tornado being fort save or sucked into the funnel, no save if the funnel runs over you, and for 1d10 rounds you take 6d6 damage.

And then fall out (it doesn't mention how high you are at that point)

and the tornado can move 250 feet per round.

Oh, whats that? I just sent everyone in a line several turns worth of running away from the fight? Whoops!

Also, I did like that answer on survival.

BESW

8:57 AM

@Mourdos It was interesting to research, because PF made some changes from 3.5 skill mechanics which I thought would make a big difference--and in the end, made no difference at all.

Metool

9:28 AM

> This kind of detailed analysis on the minutiae of animals in a Pathfinder RPG is what I believe life is all about.

lisardggY

Hello.

BESW

@Metool Shhh. I haven't ever shown Gareth that comment, and I'm afraid what'll happen if he sees it.

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@lisardggY [wave]

lisardggY

Someone dredged up this old question, which should probably be closed as opinion-based/too broad

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Q: What are some suggestions for a brawler-type unarmed character in Pathfinder?

I have played a monk before and enjoyed it but I was thinking of playing a character who's more of a brawler than a mystic martial artist. I know there are some options in the barbarian class but what else is there in the game? As a supplementary question, is there any point in making an unarmed...

pathfinder unarmed-combat

Mourdos

If you scroll up slightly, twas me.

I randomly came across it (through related link wandering) and noticed that there was no brawler in the answer. I disagree on it being too broad, the style of question is often to broad, but looking for classes that can use unarmed attacks but are not mystic monks is specific enough, I would have thought?

BESW

Well, it's not asking for classes.

It's asking for every possible option to provide non-mystic barehanded combat, AND a discussion of poweredness for these options.

lisardggY

9:42 AM

It's no surprise there wasn't an accepted answer - there can't really be an accepted answer to that question.

BESW

@lisardggY Leaving a comment, including that idea.

This appears to be asking for a list of every possible option to provide non-mystic barehanded combat (not even a list of all classes dedicated to providing such options), AND a discussion of poweredness for these options. I speculate there's no accepted answer because it's not a question which can be answered within the SE format. — BESW 13 secs ago

lisardggY

@Mourdos I agree that, were it to be a good question for the site, the Brawler should be mentioned.

BESW

10:06 AM

Somebody give me the name of a film set in the mid/late-1800s Wild West, kindly.

I'm looking for a bank of likely names to draw on.

lisardggY

Silverado (film)

Silverado is a 1985 American Western film produced and directed by Lawrence Kasdan. The screenplay was written by Kasdan and his brother Mark. It features an ensemble cast, including Kevin Kline, Scott Glenn, Danny Glover, Kevin Costner, John Cleese, Jeff Goldblum, Linda Hunt and Brian Dennehy. The film was produced by Columbia Pictures and Delphi III Productions, and distributed to theatres by Columbia, and by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment for home media. The original soundtrack, with a score composed by Bruce Broughton, was released by Geffen Records. On November 12, 2005, an expanded two...

Inbar Rose

The new World Building network is getting interesting!

BESW

Hmm. That's a decent start. Not a lot of last names, though.

lisardggY

jimwegryn.com/Names/Cowboys3.htm

BESW

Thanks, mix-and-match between these will do nicely.

....this is perfect.

The Goodnight Mine: A played-out diamond mine which cost more than it ever gave back.

(The DFAE playtest for Emrakul and Aslan is going to be a Wild West type thing, so I'm sticking it on a town around a dead diamond mine in the Ozarks.)

Mourdos

10:25 AM

Are we a min max board?

wax eagle

@Mourdos yes and no

Mourdos

As in, do we support optimization questions like this: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/47992/…

Also I want to yell at point 2) THAT NOT HOW IT WORKS. You can't just use a 1st level spell to bypass the fact that +4 armor costs 16,000 gp

takes off mutants and masterminds hat

BESW

@Mourdos [casts dispel magic]

wax eagle

point it out. and if those kinds of misconceptions are rampant, then vtc as unclear

Mourdos

Heh

In theory, 2) is viable. But any DM that allows it should be smacking with a haddock, repeatedly.

And then I want an item of constant true strike.

BESW

10:28 AM

Heck, [casts reaving dispel, laughs hysterically]

Mourdos

Can we use the wild mage?

All of your buffs are as the rainbow.

And the rainbow burns, freezes, corrodes, drives you insane and planeshifts you. The best kind of rainbow.

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BESW

I've voted to close as too broad, but "unclear" would probably be equally valid. Overlooking some of the peculiar assumptions in play (which are addressed by other comments), this is a request for discussion and open-ended lists rather than actionable advice. — BESW 11 secs ago

Inbar Rose

10:45 AM

@Mourdos That system is so confusing.

Mourdos

Is it?

I love M&M because it doesn't give a crap about the fluff of your character. IT doesn't let you cheat it.

I have a power that lets me shoot flames out my hands. The system goes "thats nice, what does it actually do?"

Well, it lets me fly! so buy the flgiht power And then I can fire it at people so buy damge but it also sets them on fire at the same time? link it to a condition But thats expensive! then your power is too strong if it does it all at once

Wait a moment, if I use my fire to burn someone, I need to keep flying! then you have have two powers, not one power that you use in differnt ways

Every time you try to gain an advantage based on logic, the game says "then buy the ability to do it"

It completely avoids the argument about "I'm so light I can float" argument that you might get off someone who makes themselves as small as an atom by turning round and telling them that to do that costs 10 points, and if they don't have it, thenits their job to explain why not.

Metool

Neat.

BESW

Sounds a lot like 4e-meets-GURPS.

Mourdos

I think once you start building a character in it, you get to understand it a lot better.

BESW

So, the official Doctor Who Twitter feed is having a #MonstersWeMiss thing where they post screenshots of monsters we haven't seen for a while--from both Old and New Who--based on tweeted requests.

And it is hilarious how effortlessly cheap 1972 practical effects outperform cheap 2006 digital effects.

Dear BBC: I'm concerned that this hashtag event isn't going to have the effect you wanted.

And now they're all "Hey, did you forget the time we tried to make you afraid of fart monsters that got blown up by pickles?"

Mourdos

11:05 AM

xD

BESW

What's a reasonable population size for a dying little town in the middle of 1800s Wild West nowhere?

Mourdos

Somewhere between 20 and 100

Depending on how close to death it is and how long its been

How do I reference a user in a question?

For the purpose of assigning credit

BESW

There is no established protocol.

I suggest you link to their user profile.

Phil

@Mourdos I would think that top number is a little high - I'm pretty sure there were towns in the high 80s that muddled along without dying

Mourdos

Depends what is causing the death though.

If there is a lack of resources and work that recently just happened, the town could be starting its death, in which case I would expect malcontent and a lot of people to start leaving shortly.

BESW

11:16 AM

Here's what I've got on the town in question.

Mourdos

This sounds like a WB question, btw :P

BESW

@Mourdos I'ma ask a meta Q about real-world questions.

Mourdos

I personally think that is kind of worldbuilding, just on a smaller scale. I'll take a read after lunch however.

BESW

Mmm. The more I think about it, the more that particular question seems like a history.se question.

Mourdos

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Q: Are alternate earths on topic here?

What I mean by alternate earths is taking current day earth geology, and then applying different realities to it. For example a geographically identical earth but with a machine based civilization post apocalyptic earth zombie apocalypse earth

discussion on-topic

See the answer, one of them is pretty much your question

Tridus

11:26 AM

@Mourdos It also wouldn't work because he has bracers of armor already, and mage armor doesn't stack with them.

Mourdos

and was higly voted

BESW

Ooh, yes, that's nice. Okay, I'll just ask, no meta needed!

Mourdos

@Tridus This is true. I was more focusing on the complete and utter disregard for the item creation rules, which are a guideline and require RAI

@BESW :-) Glad to help

lunchtime!

BESW

Thanks.

Tridus

@Mourdos Yep, I agree with you. But even if you get past that issue, it still doesn't work. :)

trogdor

11:30 AM

@BESW what is this?

BESW

@trogdor Online DFAE playtest with Emrakul and JoshuaAslanSmith. Starting next Tuesday.

trogdor

ah ok

neat

BESW

They're going to start as mortals (they're really set on that) and gain mantles by the end of the first session.

trogdor

mk

certainly a different angle than we went for

BESW

The concept is a supernatural gang trying to take over an Old West town, and the PCs will seek out mantles to be able to kick the gang out.

trogdor

11:33 AM

to be honest, I didn't see any reason to start as mortal

there are no benefits to it in DFAE at the moment

BESW

They're interested in the drama of how a mortal's life is turned upside down by the invasion of the supernatural.

trogdor

man,... I wish I had remembered to mention that in my playtest report

I think that is the only thing I forgot to mention though,... unless I still don't remember something else I noticed while playing

BESW

11:46 AM

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Q: Population range for a dying town

I'm designing a town in the Ozark mountain range circa 1871, and am unsure about what population size to give it. River Bend was a mining town (they briefly struck diamonds) founded high in the Ozark mountains and far from other settlements, about 1845. But the mine's been abandoned for ten year...

city-design history demographics wild-west

Mourdos

11:56 AM

Cool

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