Vyxal

lyxal

00:20

@user so you mean for example have an IfStructure class that inherits from Structure?

user

Yup

lyxal

that could be a possibility

I'd considered it myself

user

My Java instincts tell me it's a good idea, but idk if it would make it easier or harder to reason about the code in practice :P

lyxal

00:43

@lyxal I've

I mean I've considered it myself

hyper-neutrino

01:06

imho yes (that was initially what i had in mind anyway)

lyxal

I don't have any objections to it

Vyxal Bot

hyper-neutrino pushed a commit to VyxalBotSE/master: hyper-ping should not ping the sender

hyper-neutrino

!!/pull

Vyxal Bot

@hyper-neutrino pulling new changes; I will restart in a few seconds if any updates are available

lyxal

I liked being pinged in the hyper ping tho

hyper-neutrino

01:10

well, too bad

:p

lyxal

sadge

Does anyone in particular want to start on the Structure children classes?

Or do y'all want a specification for the classes drafted first?

hyper-neutrino

i think some specs might be nice but i doubt too much is needed

each class should extend Structure, have a constructor that takes a list of substatements, and have a function that transpiles itself to python

lyxal

Then do you think a sort of UML specification would be appropriate?

hyper-neutrino

not sure what that is lol

lyxal

Unified Modeling Language

The Unified Modeling Language (UML) is a general-purpose, developmental, modeling language in the field of software engineering that is intended to provide a standard way to visualize the design of a system.The creation of UML was originally motivated by the desire to standardize the disparate notational systems and approaches to software design. It was developed at Rational Software in 1994–1995, with further development led by them through 1996.In 1997, UML was adopted as a standard by the Object Management Group (OMG), and has been managed by this organization ever since. In 2005, UML was also...

It specifies class members in a visual diagram

hyper-neutrino

01:21

hmm

maybe

user

02:16

@lyxal PLEASE NO UML

I still have flashbacks to CompSci in 9th grade

Oh, the horrors

(that's mostly a joke, but I think we can just publish docs to lyxal.pythonanywhere.com/docs or something and explain a bit instead of using UML)

Speaking of which, we might want to consider pydoc to autogenerate docs from docstrings for later. It's not a priority, and perhaps never will be, but I'm just putting it out here

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Create Structure Class.txt

user

🎉

lyxal

03:52

@hyper-neutrino @user should the structure classes be in a different file to the parser?

user

I thunk they should

hyper-neutrino

imo yes

lyxal

DeprecationWarning: The parser module is deprecated and will be removed in future versions of Python

:thonk:

ah

ngl I have to change the name of the parser class

PyGamer0

04:09

@lyxal vyxal is deprecated?‽

lyxal

No, there's already a standard library called parser

A username

Hi

@user See Jyxal.

I just realised

Vyxal bot is going to keep pinging this "A username" person...

@VyxalBot ping me

Vyxal Bot

04:29

@emanresuA I have put you on the ping list.

lyxal

What a gamer

@VyxalBot ping me

Vyxal Bot

@lyxal I have put you on the ping list.

lyxal

Very nice

emanresu A

Oh I see

lyxal

But I was already on the list you sussy baka

emanresu A

04:30

very nice

We have to call Vyxal Lyxal now

lyxal

Correct

My username has updated for you?

emanresu A

No

lyxal

Oh

emanresu A

shouldiblamecaching.com

Has mine updated for you?

lyxal

Yes

emanresu A

04:31

I think it's cos I changed my parent user to codegolf

after changing my username

Do that and the chat profile should update

lyxal

i changed it for all sites though

@hyper-neutrino force chat refresh pls?

there we go

!!/ping me please

@VyxalBot ping me

Vyxal Bot

@vyxal I have put you on the ping list.

vyxal

Irony in a nutshell

Vyxal Bot

chunkybanana pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Update contributing.md

emanresu A

!!/sus

→ 1 message moved to The Nineteenth Byte

Feeds

04:42

hyper-neutrino has removed emanresu A from the list of this room's owners.

vyxal

Jul 28 at 4:30, by lyxal

y'know, even though I think it's absolutely hilarous moving bot messages over to TNB, I ask that you respect the request made by caird

Jul 28 at 4:31, by lyxal

the last thing we need is stigma against us because we were too stupid

Jul 28 at 4:31, by lyxal

we already cop enough criticism based on the language itself

hyper-neutrino

don't move bot messages into TNB, or any messages unless it'd be on-topic there and more relevant than here

4

vyxal

We don't need to give caird and redwolf more reasons to say vyxal bad

@emanresuA do you promise not to move any more bot messages?

(btw I'm not mad or anything I just want to make sure that you don't go getting yourself in trouble)

emanresu A

Ok

in The Nineteenth Byte, 2 mins ago, by emanresu A

I'ma work on stack-based Java.

vyxal

Good

Feeds

04:49

vyxal has added emanresu A to the list of this room's owners.

emanresu A

To the first or the second?

vyxal

Welcome back to the RO list :p

@emanresuA both

emanresu A

@vyxal I didn't even know I had got moved off it but sure.

bye

vyxal

o/

pxeger

06:01

@user only if they need to inherit some common functionality or if you want to use Structure for typing purposes

otherwise it's not necessary

Vyxal Bot

11:29

@ChristopherTracy Welcome to the Vyxal chat room! Type !!/help for my list of commands, and !!/info for info about Vyxal!

vyxal

12:58

It's August 2021 and still Vyxal doesn't appear on the ELO list

frick you SEDE

screwing me over like that

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: don't mask standard library names kids

user

@vyxal You have become your language

vyxal

correct

everyone else changed theirs so I did too

"everyone else" = 2 people

I lowkey don't know what to be working on Vyxal-wise

CMQ: Start on compiler or structure sub-classes?

PyGamer0

idea: add a lisp mode to vyxal which runs a superset of lisp

@VyxalBot @vyxal you didnt change your github name :p

vyxal

of course not

that would lead to name clashes with the organisation lol

user

13:30

@vyxal structure fot now, then clmpiler

Aaron Miller

@vyxal That feeling is why I haven't done anything with the rewrite except try and break it

@vyxal run kH

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller Hello, World!

Aaron Miller

lol

vyxal

@vyxal run `oh no oh frick

Vyxal Bot

@vyxal oh no oh frick

vyxal

13:39

@AaronMiller so I wonder how we go about eliminating that feeling

How do we get progress happening?

Progress at a reasonable pace of course

Aaron Miller

We kidnap the users who actually know what they're doing (HN, user, pxeger, etc.) and force them to finish the rewrite for us.

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

Aaron Miller

(For legal reasons thats a joke)

vyxal

@AaronMiller sounds like I won't be kidnapped then :P /hj

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller *points the ak47 at hn

user

13:42

@AaronMiller why am i included in that lidt

hyper-neutrino

*points the bullet reflector at PyGamer0*

user

Idk what im doing

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino *points the bullet reflector at hn

hyper-neutrino

guess we have ourselves a mexican standoff

vyxal

Have fun in your Mexican stand-off

!!/'night

Vyxal Bot

13:45

@vyxal o/

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino *hn points the bullet reflector back

*the bullet runs out of speed because physics

*no one has died

Aaron Miller

Wait, since when are physics a thing? They make stuff boring. :p

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller yes god enabled physics in the middle of the fight

Aaron Miller

oh

Understandable, have a nice day.

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller its currently 7:30 pm

for me

Aaron Miller

13:53

Understandable, have a nice evening.

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller the sun has set

hyper-neutrino

Understandable, have a nice existence.

Aaron Miller

Understandable, have a nice <approximateTimeOfDay>.

That moment when your jokes are

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

user

Aaron Miller go Burr lol

hyper-neutrino

14:06

hmmmmmm

user

14:19

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

hyper-neutrino

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Aaron Miller

!!/run \h\mk4*\? Ṫ

Vyxal Bot

[@AaronMiller: 58797655]
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

user

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@VyxalBot hmm I can hmm better than you hmm

PyGamer0

!!/run \h\m1e1000*+

Vyxal Bot

14:33

[@PyGamer0: 58797692]
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

Aaron Miller

!!/run \h\mk4k2**\? Ṫ

Vyxal Bot

[@AaronMiller: 58797694]
STDERR:
Code timed out after 10 seconds

user

!!/run \h\m9900*+

Vyxal Bot

[@user: 58797697]
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

PyGamer0

how to tease Vyxal

step 1: run 1+1

step 2: say haha no infix support

!!/run 1+1

Vyxal Bot

14:35

@PyGamer0 1

PyGamer0

haha no infix support

Aaron Miller

step 3: ???

step 4: profit

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller Vyxal gets teased

step 5: dont do it in front of lyxal

yes i will still refer to him as lyxal

user

I'm afraid lyxal is gone. Flowey finally defeated him and is now masquerading as vyxal

Aaron Miller

> I'm afraid lyxal is gone. ~~Flowey~~ GPT-3 finally defeated him and is now masquerading as vyxal

FTFY

PyGamer0

14:41

@user NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hyper-neutrino

15:21

why would you even support infix in a stack-based language tho

depending on how you implemented it that sounds like it is potentially masking more useful behavior

Aaron Miller

y not?

hyper-neutrino

bc it's weird lol

Aaron Miller

so is wierd, but people use it anyway :p

hyper-neutrino

i mean it's an interesting gimmick i guess

doesn't make sense for vyxal

cuz uh

infix support on first-order functions in a stack-based language is extremely ambiguous and confusing and difficult to read

user

Factor has macros that can do that

Aaron Miller

15:31

*Implements flag for infix commands*

hyper-neutrino

frick

user

Redwolf: *Runs over Aaron Miller*

Aaron Miller

*Implements flag for panfix commands*

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