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@verbose I think it's fine. Any answer is going to have to bring evidence from the text, and literature is inherently a somewhat subjective field.
 
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@Tsundoku scifi.stackexchange.com/a/150384/4918 By authority usually. Shakespeare is very well studied, so you might find a very detailed analysis that explain all the words to modern audiences and points out all the puns.
 
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11:49
Bronte of the day:
> The hope and delight were Thine;
I bless Thee for their loan;
I gave Thee while I deemed them mine
Too little thanks, I own.
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Q: What's the earliest work of literature that contains an allusion to an earlier work of literature?

Matt ThrowerI need to define my terms quite carefully for this question. So the Mirriam-Webster definition of allusion is: an implied or indirect reference especially in literature i.e. a poem that makes allusions to classical literature For clarity, then, I'm not talking about the age-old practice of writ...

 
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@Tsundoku One could respond that there is no evidence of a bawdy pun, yes. As I said in an answer here, it would be like claiming Tennyson's Mariana contains a bawdy pun in its refrain "he cometh not": easily refuted by looking at the history of the use of "come" in the sense of orgasm.
@Mithical Honestly, saying "it's subjective" is such a cop-out. It quashes all argument.
 
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@verbose ...I mean. I'm not quite sure what the problem is. It's been a consistent theme since the beginning of the site that we're going to have to be a little flexible in the opinion-based department. Personally, I think that the question might be better off restated as "What supports this as the theme of the work?" but even in its current state I don't think it's unreasonable for a literature site.
19:36
@b_jonas Every time I'm reminded of that answer, I disagree with Matilda more fervently. =P
 
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Q: Formatting Poetry books

AmmuIn a book of poetry, should there be uniformity throughout the book in its format — Should every poem be formatted the same way? Can a few poems have hanging indents while others a regular margin?

@Bookworm Might be better suited to Writing.SE?
 
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@Bookworm What is the earliest literary allusion to HNQ?
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Q: The register of Odette's language

bobsmith76This is from Proust: – Mais elle a l’air d’une ouvreuse, d’une vieille concierge, darling ! Ça, une marquise ! Je ne suis pas marquise, mais il faudrait me payer bien cher pour me faire sortir nippée comme ça ! Elle ne comprenait pas que Swann habitât l’hôtel du quai d’Orléans que, sans oser le ...

23:04
> Discovering Rulfo was a capital event in García Márquez’s life. He said he was in a creative dead end, having arrived in Mexico City in July 1961. One day, Álvaro Mutis, a fellow writer and countryman, brought a bunch of books to García Márquez’s house, one of them being Rulfo’s Pedro Páramo, and told him to “read that thing, fucker, you might learn something.” And so he did.
> The book provoked amazement in him. He claims he could not only recite entire passages but that he knew the whole book by heart backwards and forwards. Later he read Rulfo’s shorty story collection, The Burning Plain, and says he couldn’t read any other author for a year because they all seemed lesser in comparison. He said that, although Pedro Páramo is a short book, that it is as lasting as Sophocles.
> So based on his words I would say yes, Rulfo’s work had a profound effect and influence on García Márquez.
From an answer to the question Gabriel Garcia Marquez Changed by Juan Rulfo?. I have been thinking of suggesting Rulfo for a reading challenge since last year, but there are so many suggestions of mine already.

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