The Reading Room

12:00 AM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Why?

@Randal'Thor When you actually hover over the tag, the length becomes apparent. I just don't think it's super new user friendly, since although the text itself isn't actually that long, it just seems really long

They might hover over that and be like "that's too much text" and then not bother reading it

Or miss the part about tagging with comics (which I don't know if that's actually necessary) underneath all the stuff that the author wrote

Rand al'Thor

I'm hovering the tags on this question and I don't think that excerpt is even the longest one.

If people find a single short paragraph "too much text" to bother reading, would they be interested in a Literature site?

Prince North Læraðr

I like the length of the-sandman

@Randal'Thor For new users that just want their homework done? Yeah

It just looks deceptively long because the excerpt space is tiny

bobble

> It needs to be short. If it's longer than three sentences, it's already too long. You know the tag is getting long when the color on "characters left" changes.

that's North on Puzzling Meta

Prince North Læraðr

shrugs I think it's just different tag writing philosophies at this point

I used to write really long tag excerpts until I realized that those probably weren't necessary

bobble

12:06 AM

wikis, or excerpts?

'borg!

Sciborg

friends! <3

i have taken two naps today and i feel very refreshed

bobble

you have come just in time to be bored to death by discussion of the details of tagging

Prince North Læraðr

I would hover over some old excerpts I wrote and I'm like "no one wants to read that"

It's not a terrible thing, and I'm not going to fight tooth and nail to get it done that way. It's just personal preference

bobble

Just Skipped your dr-suess excerpt edit because I'm not sure if adding birth and death dates is enough to justify an edit

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble Meh, that's what I've been doing for most of the excerpt edits

If it's "for questions..." and already has the dates, I don't even bother

bobble

12:10 AM

I edit to add information about the writer

example: literature.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/11110

Prince North Læraðr

I go with adding the extra information on a case-by-case basis. I usually don't unless I feel like it's important in how to use the tag

bobble

I use that little bit of information to decide which tags to browse through when looking at the tag pages

Prince North Læraðr

Like johann-wolfgang-von-goethe is WAY too long IMO

bobble

oof yeah

it doesn't even have the "use with [german-literature]" bit

Prince North Læraðr

! I didn't even realize

Okay yeah I'm fixing that

There was no way the language tag would've fit

bobble

12:16 AM

I've been thinking that I could add wikis about some of my favorite authors/books but I'm worried that would be unfair to the others

Sciborg

how dare you have tastes and opinions

those are forbidden

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble Lol, just add the wikis to the ones you want

There are WAY too many tags to make a wiki for all of them

bobble

I will be offline for a bit to concentrate on some offline homework without y'all being distracting

Prince North Læraðr

Lol

Sciborg

:(

Prince North Læraðr

12:23 AM

I'll do that too o\

Sciborg

all by myselffffff....

bobble

1:25 AM

@Sciborg poor birdy

pat pat

Sciborg

birdy is lonely :(

bobble

What would birdy like to do?

Sciborg

dost thou have any Grid Deduction puzzles?

bobble

1:40 AM

Genre?

Sciborg

any

bobble

Hop into grid-deduction chat, I'll pull up a link

bobble

3:48 AM

Now that I can see invisible things, are there any recommendations?

verbose

4:14 AM

@bobble as far a you know

bobble

well there were no bite marks on me when I awoke

Prince North Læraðr

Or so you think

bobble

... there was a scratch that I don't remember getting

but I'm almost positive that was there yesterday

Prince North Læraðr

~~cackles menacingly~~

I am literally one edit away from a gold badge

verbose

@Tsundoku I've created a monster

@PrinceNorthLæraðr The tag postmodernism shouldn't be hyphenated

Prince North Læraðr

4:27 AM

@verbose The tag shouldn't exist lol

Imo

verbose

I'm not sure postmodernism, or romanticism, or classicism, or dadaism, etc. are genres in the way that poetry, novels, epic, tragedy, etc. are genres. They're more like stylistic schools

Like, they're more in history-of-literature

Bookworm

5:15 AM

0

Q: The first line of "God's Grandeur"

The first line of Gerard Manley Hopkins's sonnet "God's Grandeur" is: The world is charged with the grandeur of god. What I found on the Internet regarding the analysis of this line was rather complicated. I have to give a presentation about this poem in front of my classroom and I am still jus...

Rand al'Thor

5:37 AM

@bobble "this lie"? :-)

That's weird. It's almost an exact copy-paste of a previous question except asking about the first line instead of the second line.

bobble

agh, my "n" key has been sticking recently

verbose

6:06 AM

@Randal'Thor And the answer to that previous question does answer this one. I VdTC

Interesting article:

goodnet.org/articles/…

verbose

6:17 AM

congratulations @bobble and @PrinceNorthLæraðr on breaking 2,000 rep!

I just took a look at the standings and I have a LONG way to go before I catch up to the person who's ahead of me: EJoshuaS. And in turn, he's a long way behind the person immediately ahead of him, who's a long way behind, etc. I think the standings are going to remain the way they are for quite a while unless Spagirl hits a few well-chosen HNQs.

She's not far behind me at all.

Question: what happens when a site grows up? My understanding is that certain privs are available at far lower reps on beta sites than on graduated ones. Say if Lit SE graduates, will someone who currently has a privilege in beta, but that rep isn't enough for a graduated site, lose that privilege?

Rand al'Thor

7:08 AM

@verbose Yep, you're well into the realm of big gaps now. But I'm guessing you'll overtake EJoshuaS probably in April, since you've been getting about 1k a month in 2021 (more in the last months of 2020).

And yes, when privilege levels change at graduation it means a lot of people lose some rep-based privileges. But nowadays the different stages of graduation can be quite separate - it's not design+elections+swag+new-rep-thresholds all at the same time any more. The most recent sites to graduate, when they graduated a bunch just for being old enough, like Writing and History, still have rep thresholds set to beta levels.

Bookworm

8:37 AM

0

Q: Meaning of the part in bold

This text is from The children's bach by Helen Garner He would have liked to move around her house and examine all its icons, or to hang over the front windowsill with her and make remarks about the dress and gait of passing pedestrians; but he wanted also to get her outside and on to his own tu...

meaning the-childrens-bach helen-garner

Bookworm

9:03 AM

0

Q: Help finding children's historical mystery

I think it's unlikely that anyone will be able to help, but this has bugged me on and off for years. When I was younger I'm sure I read a book from the local library. We're talking the UK in the late 80s early 90s here. I don't remember many details - but I feel that it was set around the war of ...

identification-request historical-context mystery-novels

verbose

9:54 AM

@Randal'Thor The late 2020 stuff was all courtesy rabindranath-tagore. And EJoshuaS often asks questions on popular topics like ayn-rand or narnia, which means he's going to keep racking up rep too. So I'm not as confident. Let's see. I'm more keen on getting to 10k rep as a personal milestone than on relative positions.

@Randal'Thor It's good that the newest graduated sites did maintain the lower-rep thresholds. If we ever get over that hump, it seems gnarly that someone like bobble or prince, who would deserve much of the credit for making the site what it is, could suddenly lose the ability to keep improving it.

Rand al'Thor

10:17 AM

Yeah. I guess the assumption of the system is that people who contributed a lot to the site over an extended period will have (or at least continue to earn) enough rep to be over the new thresholds too.

Actually, two of the people who deserve most credit for making this site what it is from the beginning don't even have accounts any more. That's by their own choice though, they weren't suddenly forced to lose privileges.

@verbose 10k is the best privilege threshold on graduated sites, although here on beta you already got all that stuff at 2k.

May 6 '20 at 21:34, by Rand al'Thor

Jan 22 '17 at 13:30, by Rand al'Thor

in Mos Eisley, Oct 4 '15 at 21:21, by Praxis

@randal'thor : 10k is when you get instant healing, x-ray vision, and the ability to see 15 seconds into the future. 20k, you get improved stamina, and 25k you get a Starbucks gift card.

verbose

cool, I have something to look forward to. I could use instant healing and improved stamina.

verbose

10:56 AM

But @Randal'Thor if we don't use english-renaissance-theatre for Shakespeare's plays, that pretty much makes nonsense of the tag?!

Rand al'Thor

I think it was @Tsundoku who introduced that tag, but I'm not sure exactly what it should be used for. It goes against our usual policies of not using tags for time periods or for English language.

Maybe it's supposed to be a general-topic tag, to be used on questions about English renaissance theatre in general but not on questions about individual works within that field.

verbose

@Randal'Thor k

Rand al'Thor

Like our genre tags, e.g. mystery-novels not being used on every Sherlock Holmes question nor tragedy on every Thomas Hardy question.

verbose

well, tragedy applies only to drama anyway

and to the Bee Gees

🎶 When you're ⬇️ and out in a lonely town, it's Tragedy!
When you want to 😢 and you don't know why it's hard to 🧸
With no one to 💘 you, you're nowhere, nowhere 🎵

Rand al'Thor

Formatting doesn't work in multi-line messages :-(

Not even
*italics*
or
**bold**

verbose

11:04 AM

Apparently

I'm rather pleased with myself over "it's hard to 🧸", tbh

oh well, imma sod off to nod off. g'nite Randolph!

Rand al'Thor

I couldn't make out that emoji. Hard to cat?

Goodnight :-)

Though 'tis but noontide here.

Now you've broken 9500 reputation, which means Area 51 will list your rep as 10k.

Tsundoku

11:34 AM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Postmodernism is not a genre, it's a solipsistic disillusionment. Except when it's about architecture, where I don't know what it means.

english-renaissance-theatre was actually intended for all theatre from that period, including Shakespeare, since some people specialise in that. But it's not in line with our general policy.

Tsundoku

11:54 AM

"It's hard to teddybear"

@Randal'Thor "It's hard to Rupert Bear"?

b_jonas

2:36 PM

@bobble literature.stackexchange.com/a/15610/139 . But there's a visible copy at history.stackexchange.com/a/61723/24029 . Anything that we would recommend we don't make invisible.

Prince North Læraðr

3:28 PM

YAYAYAYA

COPY-EDITOR TAG HAS BEEN EARNED!!!!

Tsundoku

Sorry, what? I didn't hear you. :-P

Oh, wow, copy edtior had been awarded only two times before today. Congratulations, @PrinceNorthLæraðr !

And your first gold badge on Lit SE.

Bookworm

4:40 PM

0

Q: What does "the one man on earth to her" in The Midst of the Alarms"?

In "In the Midst of Alarms" (1894) by Robert Barr, Yates went to propose a girl who wasn't in love with him, but he thought that she love him. He went to her home's garden in the darkness to talk to her: “Margaret,” whispered Yates hardly above his breath. The girl advanced toward the fence. “Is...

meaning robert-barr in-the-midst-of-alarms

bobble

5:04 PM

For poems or collections of poems that have their own tags, should [poetry] be used alongside them?

Woo, 10.5 QPD

Gareth Rees

5:18 PM

@bobble Yes, please! It makes it easier, for example, to find unanswered poetry questions.

bobble

5:35 PM

> Question about any of the books in the fantasy series Dragonriders of Pern, written by Anne McCaffrey. Use this tag with the [anne-mccaffrey] tag.

I'm writing a wiki for [dragonriders-of-pern] and that tag excerpt is... not entirely true

Other authors (notably her children) have contributed novels, both in collaboration with her and not

[dragonriders-of-pern] strikes me as a tag that can't really have one author attributed to it

For example, none the companion books (e.g. People of Pern, The Atlas of Pern) were written only by Anne McCaffrey. The Atlas of Pern doesn't even have Anne on the byline (though she was involved in its creation)

As I mentioned, there are novels that were written entirely by her children

It would be weird if someone had a question about Dragonheart and tagged it with [anne-mccaffrey]

But according to our current series-tag guidance, seems like that would be what would happen

Please excuse the crown, she has been immersed in tagging for too long

I'm off to do some physics homework

Prince North Læraðr

5:54 PM

@Tsundoku Something about a gold badge really freshens up your profile page

My hard-earned badge (sniffles) so proud

bobble

I have a much higher edit-to-day ratio than you

0.455 edits/day vs 1.805 edits/day

I shall pass you eventually

Prince North Læraðr

7:06 PM

@bobble Blah blah blah, :P

Tsundoku

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Now would be a good time to say, "You shall not pass!"

Prince North Læraðr

@Tsundoku Ha!

bobble

nah, "shalt"

Tsundoku

@bobble Well, it was "shall" in the film, wasn't it?

bobble

i dunno, didn't even know it was a refrence

but you know, this is Lit so we have to be all anachronistic

Prince North Læraðr

7:08 PM

@bobble LoTR?

Gandalf????

bobble

remember how i haven't read LoTR?

It's like

or seen any of the movies

Prince North Læraðr

One of the most iconic lines in fantasy

Tsundoku

You Shall Not Pass!

Prince North Læraðr

7:09 PM

I don't think I can be friends with you anymore bobble

bobble

well i learned something new today

Mithical

@bobble *shakes head sadly*

bobble

hey this isn't SF&F

Tsundoku

One does not simply walk into a literature chatroom and say, "i dunno, didn't even know it was a reference"...

bobble

*reference

yes, i'm correcting myself at this point

in my defense my keys are very sticky

Tsundoku

7:15 PM

If you don't revise properly...You Shall Not Pass!

►

^ SinceTollkien was a professor, I think that was the real origin of that phrase.

bobble

Ah yes, the professor known as "SinceTollkien"

verbose

@Randal'Thor “hard to bear” 🐻

Prince North Læraðr

7:31 PM

@Tsundoku You just pretend like you understand the reference as you furiously Google

Tsundoku

@PrinceNorthLæraðr A few years ago, we had "One does not simply ..." memes hanging around the office.

Prince North Læraðr

@Tsundoku Hehe

Tsundoku

Expectations vs reality: img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2017-03/28/13/asset/…

> I would make another LoTR joke, but all the good ones Aragorn.

bobble

that's just a rip-off of a chem joke

Tsundoku

Oh, with Argon? I hadn't heard that one.

bobble

7:43 PM

this AP Chemistry kid has heard the chem version too often

Prince North Læraðr

Haha

bobble

my AP Chem teacher has the walls plastered with chem memes

that's the one kind of meme that I am familiar with

Tsundoku

I guess that chemistry joke wouldn't have won me any gold :-P

Rand al'Thor

@Tsundoku Nor should one besmirch a literature chatroom with film memes.

@PrinceNorthLæraðr You haven't been around enough to know that the tsundoku doesn't google :-)

Prince North Læraðr

Oh, really?

Rand al'Thor

7:49 PM

Apr 30 '20 at 16:52, by Tsundoku

Is it one of those I didn't find because I don't use Google?

Tsundoku

I ditched Google for DuckDuckGo. Here's why you should too

Privacy Cookbook - Chapter 13 - Search Engines - Searching....

De-google-ify Internet

Now that two of our most active editors have reached 2000 reps, the suggested-edit queue is going to be a lot emptier.

Rand al'Thor

Their tag wiki edits still need to be approved until they reach 4000.

Tsundoku

I know, but not all edits are tag wiki edits.

bobble

Is there some polite way to tell this user to please use proper formatting for titles? They've been writing "The children's bach by Helen Garner" and I have to keep correcting that to "The Children's Bach by Helen Gerner". This time they even wrote the title wrong - "path" instead of "Bach". I mean, it's small, but I would like to not have to.

Rand al'Thor

And 1000 is enough to make post edits without approval, on a beta site.

It was noticeable when bobble hit 1000 rep here ;-)

bobble

8:01 PM

shuffles feet I do edit a bit, don't I

Bookworm

0

Q: Meaning of "They wanted to know each other less than they wanted to agree. Harmony! To be each other"

This text is from The Children's Bach by Helen Garner. In the street there was a dusty summer wind, a morning not quite hot enough. If they walked shoulder to shoulder, if they sat side by side, it was in order to become the world’s audience instead of being obliged to perform their personalitie...

meaning the-childrens-bach helen-garner

Bookworm

8:29 PM

1

Q: What does the sentence "We call people things" mean?

I am to translate an extract from John M. Ford's novel The Last Hot Time. It begins with this passage: "Her name is Norma Jean?" "Around here," the small man said, "names are something that one keeps to oneself. We call people things. He indicated the big man and the elf in turn. "This is Lincol...

meaning john-m-ford the-last-hot-time

Prince North Læraðr

9:11 PM

> earned 1000 reputation from suggested edits

sighs

What a beautiful number

Haha, this means now I can make all the trivial edits I want and it won't seem like I'm trying to rep grab!

@Tsundoku What does it look like when your edits get approved now?

Does it notify you still that the edit was approved?

Wow, I have to say, we've tackled a large chunk of Knight's questions. By "we" I mean like... a good chunk by Tsundoku

(Not disenfranchising anyone else who worked on it, of course :P)

Tsundoku

9:28 PM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Get approved? If they don't need to get approved, they are visible immediately, so there is no need for a notification.

Prince North Læraðr

@Tsundoku Ah, I meant "what do they look like when suggestions get approved after hitting the max reputation from edits"

I can't earn any more reputation from edits now, right?

Like no matter what I do?

Tsundoku

I don't know. I passed 4,000 reps so long ago.

You'll have to try it out...

So, did you get two notifications just now?

The "flood" was one week ago and we now have a QPD of 10.6:

Rand al'Thor

At the end of February our QPD is going to plummet.

At least our answered percentage is approaching 76% again.

Tsundoku

Oh, you mean we won't get another 95 questions before the end of the month?

We went back to 75% relatively quickly but I have no idea how war away from 76% we still are.

Prince North Læraðr

@Tsundoku Nope. I had to check my suggestion tab to see if it got approved. That's kind of annoying, knowing now that I don't know if things get approved :/

@Tsundoku Does the counter reset or something? How does it work?

Rand al'Thor

9:39 PM

@Tsundoku If you divide this number by this number, it's currently 0.2457...

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Hover over the QPD figure on Area 51 and you'll see it's a moving average based on the last fortnight.

Prince North Læraðr

Ah...

Darn, that'll be really sad ;-;

I really liked seeing our average at 10.6

Tsundoku

Well, there is a way to keep it there...

Prince North Læraðr

This question looks really, really ambiguous

Rand al'Thor

If you, me, bobble, Tsundoku, Mith, and verbose each ask a question every day ...

Prince North Læraðr

@Randal'Thor hehe, good luck with counting me in there for being consistent but I can try :P

Tsundoku

9:41 PM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Well, The Waste Land was very influential, but it would take some research to document exactly in what way.

Feb 14 at 22:12, by Tsundoku

Well, I have a cunning plan: ten of us start collecting questions until each of us has 30 of them. Then we start posting them, i.e. each of us one per day. That would mean at least 10 QPD for an entire month ;-)

Feb 14 at 22:12, by Tsundoku

If it sounds like a bad plan, blame Baldrick.

Prince North Læraðr

@Tsundoku Okay. I'm not very familiar with The Waste Land, but there wasn't really anything from the question itself that would indicate that the work was "significant"

Tsundoku

Sorry for the TV allusions, @Randal'Thor :-/

@PrinceNorthLæraðr That's sort of understood, I guess.

Prince North Læraðr

I'm still going to flag and vote to close it. The question "how did it change English literature" feel way too open-ended

Tsundoku

@PrinceNorthLæraðr What American literature?

Prince North Læraðr

Okay, even worse

Are they talking about English as in England or English as in the language English?

English literature---> literature from England or English literature ---> literature written in English language?

Tsundoku

9:45 PM

Presumably in the English language. Eliot was an American but spent his entire professional life in England.

Prince North Læraðr

The latter presumes to be extremely broad

Rand al'Thor

Every time people here start talking about Eliot, I think of George before TS.

Prince North Læraðr

@Randal'Thor Hehe, I was thinking of that too, but only because I'd just recently made or fixed George Eliot's tag excerpt

Tsundoku

But for the Library of Congress, Eliot counts as American literature.

Prince North Læraðr

~~gee, I wonder why~~

The question "how did Eliot change English literature" just feels like such a broad question. Like an entire PhD dissertation could be written on it

Tsundoku

9:49 PM

It may be sufficient to summarise what you find in a monograph about modernism and one about Eliot.

Prince North Læraðr

Hmm, I still don't know. But I'm no literary expert, so, I'll drop it if you think it's answerable. My vote still stands as is

verbose

Tsundoku

Would that cause a stack overflow? :-P

verbose

@Tsundoku ⬆️

heh

Prince North Læraðr

I'm confused by the meme :P

The compsci coding is too big brain for me

Tsundoku

9:56 PM

Oh, I almost forgot to congratulate @bobble for becoming our 36th 2000+ rep user!

bobble

:D

Prince North Læraðr

Congrats!

Still ahead of you :P

bobble

closer I come... closer

... closer

I need one more good HNQ

Tsundoku

> Here's ~~Johnny~~ bobble!

verbose

@Tsundoku It's not answerable without writing a book.

@PrinceNorthLæraðr agreed

Prince North Læraðr

9:59 PM

@bobble I keep on wond'ring and wond'ring and wond'ring and wond'ring when will my life begin?

Tsundoku

> Knight’s Law: Life is what happens to you while you’re making other plans.

From Quote Investigator: Life is What Happens To You While You’re Busy Making Other Plans.

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr in C, a pointer is something that holds a memory address. To dereference a pointer is to go to that address and get whatever is stored in memory there. A null pointer is holds literally nothing: "no such address". Dereferencing a null pointer means we try to go literally nowhere to see what's stored there. That confuses the computer and it crashes. Fairly common coding error.

Tsundoku

java.lang.NullPointerException Aargh!!!

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose Ah, so literally telling the computer to do something when there is nothing it can do, if I'm understanding correctly

Oh, is it like in windows where

You have a bunch of empty folders and when you open them it's just empty

Except the folders themselves don't exist in our case

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Yes. More precisely, to tell the computer to perform an operation on a value that literally does not exist.

Prince North Læraðr

10:08 PM

@verbose I feel like there's a math analogy I can make but I'm not sure what :P

bobble

There, I forgot to post yesterday's Fontane question. Rand, we're even again

Bookworm

0

Q: Why does "The Tragedy of Afghanistan" suddenly switch to second-person in the second-to-last verse?

Here's the second-to-last verse from a translation of Fontane's "Das Trauerspiel von Afghanistan" ("The Tragedy of Afghanistan"): They played all night and the following day, They played like only love made them play; The songs were still heard, but darkness did fall. In vain is your watch, in v...

poetry theodor-fontane

Prince North Læraðr

> Seven a.m., the usual morning lineup
Start on the chores and sweep 'till the floor's all clean
Polish and wax, do laundry, and mop and shine up
Sweep again, and by then it's like 7:15

How does she -

In fifteen minutes??

bobble

?

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Go ahead and make it ....

bobble

10:10 PM

who's "she"?

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr I assumed it was 7:15p

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose Rapunzel. This is from Tangled

verbose

Like, she gets through the entire day during silly stuff

bobble

ah, I was confuzzled

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose Nope, she does this entire thing in like 15 minutes

verbose

10:11 PM

Oh well, it's Rapunzel. Small room.

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose No I was saying I'm sure there's a math analogy, but I just don't know one or it's not coming to my mind

@verbose Castle's pretty big

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr ah

bobble

's not a castle she's in

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose Dividing by zero?? Lol

bobble

she just has her tower room

and probably a bathroom, but they don't show it

Prince North Læraðr

10:12 PM

How does one do their laundry in fifteen minutes

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr That's not a bad analogy. Same sort of "this thing its literally impossible to do" energy

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose yeah

@verbose I can totally feel the "What the f- are you telling me to do" vibe from that

bobble

Depends what you count as "doing laundry"

doesn't take long to run something under water with soap

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble Have you ever tried doing hand-laundry? It's HARD

bobble

You can do hand-laundry really fast if you cut all the corners

dunk something in soapy water, take it out, "done"

Prince North Læraðr

10:15 PM

No, but you have to wring the water out

That's the hard part

bobble

make the lizard do that

Prince North Læraðr

It's a chameleon

bobble

reptile smpltile

verbose

@Tsundoku In Vancouver, BC, there's a church which has a reserved parking spot for the priest right in front of it. There's a sign there saying Thou Shalt Not Park.

@PrinceNorthLæraðr aren't chameleons lizards?

Tsundoku

@verbose Apparently, that kind of sign is not unusual.

Prince North Læraðr

10:18 PM

@verbose Well yes, but lizards are a large group of reptiles

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr It's really bizarre that less than two months ago some dude blew up an entire block of downtown Nashville on Christmas day to save 'Merika from the Lizard People and we've just sorta memory-holed it.

Granted, we've gone through an attempted coup and some other stuff since then, but still. I think the fact the Lizard People were able to cover up the whole thing so quickly and efficiently shows their power.

Prince North Læraðr

That... was the reason why the Nashville Christmas bomber bombed it?

verbose

makes friends with @PrinceNorthLæraðr to be on the good side of the Lizard People

@PrinceNorthLæraðr yes, I am not kidding

and see what I mean about its being totally memory holed

Tsundoku

@verbose I have it in my list of links about the Trump administration, though.

verbose

Meanwhile, federal investigators are still looking into the belief system of Anthony Quinn Warner, who made statements about a conspiracy of lizard people taking over the planet before the explosion that damaged 41 buildings and injured three people in Nashville, Tennessee, on Christmas Day.

Prince North Læraðr

10:23 PM

I never understood the conspiracy theories behind all these "world-ruling governments". I mean, if they're really controlling the world, they're really not doing anything

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr wait what

@Tsundoku that's a depressing page

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose You know, "X organization" or "X people" are taking /have taken over the world

Tsundoku

@PrinceNorthLæraðr They're variations of anti-semitic theories that have existed for some time ...

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr "We have heard about these Lizard People. The situation is being ... monitored."

Prince North Læraðr

I meant the organizations which are subjected to the conspiracy theories

They're doing a pretty bad job of trying to take over the world

verbose

10:26 PM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr I guess I don't understand what you mean by "if they're really controlling the world, they're really not doing anything"

Oh okay, get it now

Prince North Læraðr

Yeah

They're very ineffective at controlling the world

Tsundoku

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Prototype: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

verbose

Get it? Monitored?

Prince North Læraðr

If you're monitoring a group that is taking over the world, doesn't that make you like... a world dictator in and of itself?

verbose

I meant as in monitor, the lizard.

Monitor lizard

Monitor lizards are large lizards in the genus Varanus. They are native to Africa, Asia, and Oceania, but are now found also in the Americas as an invasive species. About 80 species are recognized. Monitor lizards have long necks, powerful tails and claws, and well-developed limbs. The adult length of extant species ranges from 20 cm (7.9 in) in some species, to over 3 m (10 ft) in the case of the Komodo dragon, though the extinct varanid known as Megalania (Varanus priscus) may have been capable of reaching lengths more than 7 m (23 ft). Most monitor species are terrestrial, but arboreal and...

Prince North Læraðr

10:27 PM

Oh, ha, funny

I don't know whether I should be laughing when I read the news stuff about Qanon or genuinely concerned

verbose

@PrinceNorthLæraðr genuinely concerned. These people are delusional enough to blow up Nashville and attempt an insurrection. People like Marjorie Taylor Greene are literally in Congress on the strength of their QAnon beliefs. It's gone far beyond a joke.

Prince North Læraðr

I wonder... how people believe this stuff

verbose

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/…

H'm I wonder why certain links (like the Wikipedia page on monitors) give you a nice preview while others (the Atlantic article) don't

Prince North Læraðr

shrugs

bobble

Only certain things onebox

SE posts, comments, chat messages, Wikipedia, images, YouTube videos, Wiktionary

Tsundoku

10:35 PM

Right, certain links onebox.

Prince North Læraðr

Interesting

bobble

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A: Which links and sites are handled specially in chat?

The current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange sites: Home pages, questions, answers, users, and comments (except for deleted things) Stack Exchange Chat: Messages, rooms, user profiles, and bookmarked conversations This works fo...

Prince North Læraðr

@verbose It's funny - the stuff they believe in hits at like every sensitive issue: child-abuse, political partisanship, cannibalism, religion, etc.

verbose

yep

Prince North Læraðr

It sounds like a post that like some guy on Twitter would joke about

"X politician is crazy! They're a bunch of Satanic, child-eating, molesters trying to stop our great leader!"

verbose

10:38 PM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr well there is a theory that it started as a game. Some gamer wanted to see if a game premise could play out in real life, and it worked too well.

Don't know whether that theory is true, but it's plausible

Prince North Læraðr

O_o

verbose

@Randal'Thor I can't ever log into Area51. Here's what happens. I log in and appear to be logged in:

My avi appears with a score of 51 next to it. Then there's a "register" link next to it. I click on that link:

Then after a while (sometimes a couple seconds, sometimes a minute):

so I've never been on Area51. Which is a pain, I'd've liked to participate in some of the proposals, e.g., the Sanskrit one.

Prince North Læraðr

10:54 PM

Huh...

Rand al'Thor

@verbose Might be worth raising a contact ticket about that. I've seen CMs being able to resolve Area51 login issues before.

The most common issue is probably duplicate accounts, but this seems like something where you need admin help too.

bobble

11:41 PM

North, why are you being active in asking & answering now?

You were all nice and not earning rep before when I was catching up

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble Mwahaha

bobble

11:53 PM

@Mithical do you happen to know where to find a transcription of the lyrics for this question? I have an idea for an answer but I can't find the lyrics anywhere, and I'd rather not transcribe from the music video

@PrinceNorthLæraðr We're 63 rep apart. If Rand accepts my timeline answer and awards a 50-point bounty immediately, then I pass you. Or if he accepts my timeline answer and I do 25 approved tag wiki edits.

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble Rand still has to accept my answer given here

bobble

Or 7 upvotes, of course

There's also the write-good-Q&A route where I grind the rep the hard way, except I've been trying to do that and you keep moving the goalpost

darn tree

Prince North Læraðr

How could I move the goal post? I'm stationary, as you can see

bobble

Your minions

Prince North Læraðr

I have minions now?