Hmm, I wonder how much an autographed copy of The Elf Queen of Shannara is worth...

@Mithrandir The usual answer for these kinds of questions is that it's worth very little.

That's what I expected.

And obviously that you should ask a professional if you want to know for sure.

Some forums often get questions from poor souls, asking for how much some rusted old coins or medals they found in the attic left by their grandfather is worth, hoping for a stroke of luck.

Those questions almost always have too little details and are unanswerable.

It's an autograph from 1993...older than I am...

@b_jonas yep, that's why I asked in chat

@Mithrandir how old are you?

@tobiasvl fourteen

... I think.

I have authographs in books that are dear to me by two authors, G. Szabó Judit and Békés Pál. Both have personal value to me not because of the authograph, but because they remind me of when I met those authors.

@Mithrandir fourteen? wow

Darth is younger, he's thirteen.

@Mithrandir who is Darth?

when I was thirteen, 9/11 went down

Darth is Beasly Gerbil

@tobiasvl Like to the day?

@Mithrandir Well, you could form a Young People's Club of Stack Exchange.

@Benjamin No no. It was just the first thing I thought of from the year I turned 13

@Mithrandir That means you were illegally using Stack Exchange at age 12.

You make me feel old.

Is Stack okay with you sticking around now that you are above 13?

I don't mean to be rude, I am just wondering @Mithrandir

It's not my fault

I hadn't known the rules

Don't worry

There are mods that did that

Well, I don't think the rule should even be in place, I think if a 5 year old is smart and mature enough to ask and answer questions well, they should be welcome.

^made me think of that

Can people under 18 be mods? @Mithrandir

Yes

There are mods thirteen or fourteen

And if I become a mod then I will be :P

@Mithrandir Oh, cool! I like a welcoming environment, but I also understand the need to protect young children.

@Benjamin it's so that the Stack doesn't have responsibility

@Mithrandir I know, but I wish the law were different

Doesn't this differ per site?

... No?

> Subscriber certifies to Stack Exchange that Subscriber is an individual (i.e., not a corporate entity) at least 13 years of age. No one under the age of 13 may provide any personal information to or on Stack Exchange (including, for example, a name, address, telephone number or email address).

I don't remember what the rules are. I was already way older than 13 when I signed up to SE, so I probably didn't spare much thought of them.

^tos

Heck, I'm not even sure I signed that one with my other account. That account just got carried over from MathOverflow, from before it was in SE, which probably didn't have that rule.

I probably agreed it with this account of course.

Huh. It's all at stackexchange.com/legal, if you want to read it.

@steelersquirrel You always project a very even image, though.

But obviously I was also easily older than 13 when I signed up to MathOverflow.

@Benjamin Couple (well, more like 100) generations ago my ancestors considered fourteen to be not a child but a fully fledged adult with adult moderator social responsibilities.

But DVK is 42,right? :P

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Who were your ancestors if they stopped 3,000 some years ago?

@Mithrandir Eternally. But I was working as a teacher in high school when I was 17, so I am the last one to judge people who are productive members of the community on their age. I just look at what people do and how they comport themselves.

@Benjamin I'm not sure if they stopped, but I am not good enough at history to be sure it persisted consistently later than 0AD. I was giving a lower bound.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To You did not answer my question as to who your ancestors were, in which case I may be able to give you more information, but do not answer my question if answering my question would cause any of the following consequences:

a) Embarrassment

b) Uncomfortability

c) Endangerment of your health or safety

e) Endangerment of the health or safety of a related human.

More of a general (un)healthy paranoia around PII :)

@DVK-on-Ahch-To I think that falls under clause c of reasons not to answer my question, which is completely understandable and is a condition shared with you by me and millions of others.

Your location keeps changing. You've been in Exile, Florida, and now Atchoo?

Then again, after an IRL incident of stalking stemming from SE, I fall under "It's not paranoid if they are out to get you" :)

#NeverWatchedStarWarsSoIThinkYou'reSneezing

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Were you seriously stalked?

@Mithrandir That's because you forgot which site you're on. My location is symbolic, you need to interpret the text through an appropriate lens :). #Gezondheid

If you were you should report it to the mods.

@Benjamin Yup. I'm definitely wholly supportive of SE's idea to allow people to hide associated accounts

I interpret it as meaning that you are having your allergies flare up. Ah well, it's better than the Flare.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To How do you do that?

@Benjamin It was IRL, not on SE. Nothing even remotely that mods or SE could have done.

@Mithrandir Wow indeed. No longer in Florida.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To They could reprimand the user.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To "hide". partly. they're still visible, just not as easily.

literature.stackexchange.com/questions/145/… - undelete, possibly reopen? It might be not opinion based.

@Benjamin I have absolutely no idea if the person was an SE user (and even if they are, no idea what their account is). The situation was, alas, not symmetrical :)

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Did the police handle it effectively?

@b_jonas It deters casual stalking. Which is good enough for most purposes. Infinitely better than NOT having the feature, even if it's not 100% bulletproof.

@Benjamin I was fortunate enough to de-escalate it before it got THAT far out of hand. But i'm far more paranoid since then (heck, i remember my young and dumb Internet days when I published my resume with name, address and phone# online).

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Hehe! Thanks :) Gheez. You were stalked IRL, too? I shut down my Facebook account and had to get a restraining order because of a patient who stalked me IRL. Ugh.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Sure.

@steelersquirrel Oh *&(! Given your line of work, that's really dangerous :( Are you OK now?

@DVK-on-Ahch-To What is his line of work?

Whoa. Lucky I haven't had anything serious like this happen to me (yet)

@Benjamin Cheering for Steelers

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Well, that's good, I take it that it is no longer a problem.

@Benjamin See profile page.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Oh, yes. All is well now. It had to take my husband (when I was married) to threaten him. But, all is well now :)

@Benjamin I'm a she :)

@steelersquirrel If this wasn't a literature chat, I'd quote a very apropos Gross Pointe Blank clip

@Benjamin *her I think

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Hehe! There are so many awesome quotes from that movie!

@steelersquirrel I generally try and use "its" as a general neutral pronoun when I am conversing with people I know as it is grammatically correct and I definitely don't mean it offensively or demeaningly, but I find that with strangers, especially on the internet, people can take it the wrong way.

@Benjamin They mistake you for that guy from Silence of the Lambs?

@steelersquirrel Oh, wow, with that employment things could get serious.

@Benjamin Yeah, I know. I usually refer to someone as a "he" until I am corrected. I don't know why I do that ;)

@steelersquirrel Amen. Whoever wrote the dialog for it deserved an Oscar, and may be Nobel for literature. Well, at least the Oscar.

@steelersquirrel I find it unfortunate, but that seems to be the thing that pleases the most people. She and you get weird looks. It and people feel as if you demean them. Ze and people thing you are speaking other languages.

@steelersquirrel Working theory: men are far more squirrelly (no pun intended) about being considered feminine, for cultural reasons. So there's more downside to mistaking a man for a woman.

@Benjamin I really had never had a problem with it before, just the one time.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Totally true!

Ah whatever. It's 2018.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Yes, but men also get in your face about being a radical feminist if you use she.

...No its not

@Mithrandir I was going to say.

... It's 2017.

@Mithrandir No, it is 12017.

Anyway, night people.

If I pop back in throw pots at my head.

@Mithrandir Why type of pots? Tea pots? Pasta pots?

@Benjamin flower pots

@Mithrandir Sure.

@Mithrandir That's only legal in Colorado and a couple other states.

Well, I'm pretty laid back. People make mistakes. I just correct them and tell them that I'm a female. No harm done :)

@steelersquirrel You should downvote them for lack of research. (yes, I'm THAT much of SE nerd)

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Oh, does the profile here say if you're a male or a female?

I guess that I never paid attention. Shows how much I know ;)

@steelersquirrel I don't think yours does; but your chat record definitely makes that clear :) You're not exactly a paranoid person hiding personal details.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Hehehe! True :)

What's confusing is when people change it. *ducks flower pot*

@DVK-on-Ahch-To However, even if you ask people, I know IRL, I am. People I am great friends with don't know where I live.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To No. I'm pretty comfortable sharing personal details here now :)

Obviously...since I have met someone else from SE IRL, so there's that ;)

@Mithrandir I don't want to argue this point here, but that is not a reason for people to not do so and it is comments such as that, which discourage those who want to change their gender from doing so.

I don't mean to discourage it at all. It's just slightly confusing after someone does it.

... That's all:)

@steelersquirrel I've met people from SE (and earlier, Usenet) IRL before. But that was after knowing them for years.

@Mithrandir Yes, I will agree with that, but I am in an environment where such people are supported and not uncommon, so I get used to it.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Oh, cool! Well, Napoleon didn't murder me or anything, so I trust him now ;)

@Benjamin I suspect he was referring to a far less benigh, and far more annoying, specific events that occured on a different SE site. Had nothing to do with IRL changes.

@Mithrandir I am sorry I came on so harsh, I just have strong and in some of my circles outspoken views on some of these issues.

@Benjamin yes, I'm supportive of it too. That doesn't make it not confusing when suddenly I have to call someone who was a she 'Jack'.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Oh, sorry, I guess I did overreact.

I think that if we all respect each other as humans, then there should really be no problems :)

@Mithrandir I agree, but as I have said, it is instinct in some of the situations I am in.

If that Steeler comment doesn't get 10 stars, i'm gonna be disappointed in humans.

Okay, good. Now that that's cleared up... Night.

@steelersquirrel Yes, why should it matter their gender as to which three-letter word is used in reference to them.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To As will I.

@Benjamin Agreed. We are all humans and should respect one another as such :)

OK, IRL duties call. All'ya'll, behave yourselves and don't cause no troubles.

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Hehe! Awwww. Thanks, buddy :)

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Ah, so since we "don't[do not] cause no troubles", the double negative being a positive and all, we must cause trouble..

Wow, this room really is the place to be nowadays.

@Randal'Thor YAY!

@DVK-on-Ahch-To Where does that line come from? I have the feeling it's a famous quote, but can't remember who said it. Bertolt Brecht comes to mind.

@Benjamin Not much they could reprimand them for, unless they've broken site rules. SE doesn't govern life :-P

See also.

Wow. We all must really be cool to have stalkers :P

@steelersquirrel Nah, you're the cool one round here.

I'm definitely not cool. Dunno about DVK, but he describes himself as a cross between Hermione and Snape, so probably more nerdy than cool ;-)

@Randal'Thor Awwwww. Well, I think that you're cool :)