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MDMarra

2:04 PM

@ScottPack I ride backwards on the train almost every day

alternating cars face opposite directions and i'm too lazy to move to a different car

and I always pick the backwards ones

Dan

Just booted up 6 blades - the guy painting the server room is going to shit himself

RobM

nice

Scott Pack

@MDMarra So you should be accustomed to it by now.

Dan

@Iain I'm not with them, but I've not heard great things

Scott Pack

@Dan How much of that paint is going to be splattered over everything else now?

Dan

2:05 PM

But then they all seem to suck

MDMarra

@ScottPack nope

you'd think, though

Dan

@ScottPack S'alright, the chassis could do with brightening up

Iain

@Dan yeah - I know - my o2 speed is OK but I'm surrounded by sky boxen - wonder if I'll have lots more contention

Basil

morning

Guess what I walked into this morning?

tombull89

@Basil a bar?

Basil

2:13 PM

One of my consistency groups for our DR replication groups is not syncing and threw out the bitmap, meaning that once we get it up and running, we have to retransfer the entire group. 6 TB or something. And that's if we can get it back started up- right now, it's refusing the command.

Cole

So how is everyone this lovely Friday?

Basil

@Cole I need a drink.

Cole

@Basil por que?

tombull89

@Cole Glad it's friday, I'll say that much.

Basil

1 min ago, by Basil

One of my consistency groups for our DR replication groups is not syncing and threw out the bitmap, meaning that once we get it up and running, we have to retransfer the entire group. 6 TB or something. And that's if we can get it back started up- right now, it's refusing the command.

:P

I am not the one fixing it though

Cole

2:15 PM

@tombull89 me too

HopelessN00b

@tombull89 Also about the only thing I can say about my mood without potential legal consequences.

Cole

@Basil doh

MDMarra

still around @jscott?

jscott

@MDMarra Yes.

MDMarra

Get-ADUser -Filter * -ResultSetSize $null -Server $d -Properties name, samaccountname, description, distinguishedname,enabled,lastlogondate |
Select-Object name, samaccountname, description, distinguishedname,enabled,lastlogondate | out-file c:\users\mmarra\desktop\users.txt -append

goddamn markdown

jscott

2:17 PM

One sec, let me copy it :)

MDMarra

Ok, so how do I append the domain that the user is in on the same line as the account name and all the other data?

Get-ADUser -Filter * -ResultSetSize $null -Server $d -Properties name, samaccountname |
Select-Object name, samaccountname | out-file c:\users\mmarra\desktop\users.txt -append

that one is simpler

I want the output to be

name samaccountname domain

that's in a foreach ($d in $domains) loop

I just don't know how to basically add $d to the end of the line for each iteration

jscott

So you want the Get-AdUser within the foreach ($d in $domains) loop?

MDMarra

$domains = "root.org", "child.root.org", "child2.root.org"

ForEach ($d in $domains){

Get-ADUser -Filter * -ResultSetSize $null -Server $d -Properties name, samaccountname |
Select-Object name, samaccountname | out-file c:\users\mmarra\desktop\users.txt -append

}

that's what I have right now

jscott

You only need the string values for the out-file? Not the actual AD objects?

TheCleaner

It's great that somebody came up with a tool to make SSL things easy, but I'm in an environment where some tool found on a blog won't be adequate. I have a strong suspicion the tool is just a friendly wrapper around the actual process; the actual process being the object of interest. — colechristensen 18 hours ago

jscott

2:20 PM

Right, ok, I got it.

TheCleaner

Somebody's being nitpicky as can be on that one ^^^

MDMarra

It gives the output as

Marra, Mark mmarra

I want it to output

Marra, Mark mmarra root.org

since the account is in the root domain

jscott

Yup, one sec, let me see if this output the correct order.

MDMarra

But since it's not an AD attribute on the user object that I can grab, I'm not sure if I need to be injecting the domain into the pipe somehow before the select or modifying it before the outfile

tombull89

@TheCleaner some tool found on a blog like, the IIS blog isn't good enough?

TheCleaner

2:22 PM

@tombull89 - apparently not. The guy must want me to tell him how to create his own SSL cert with multiple SANs using straw and mud.

His edit was: An additional requirement is accomplishing this using only existing tools built in to RHEL 6, Windows 2008 R2, or software which can be acquired from Microsoft directly

I'm pretty sure the IIS blog is "acquired from Microsoft directly". Meh...I'll let it go.

The guy that rights that blog (Tom), and his bio:

I'm a Lead Program Manager in the IIS team, responsible for Security, Performance, Shared Hosting and for several other things nobody else likes to do.
I'm born in a small town in the south east of Germany named Auerbach i.d. Opf. where my mother still runs a popular pub with an attached bowling alley.
I started my professional career as a chef in a big restaurant, became a paramedic and finally discovered that there is a lot of money to be made by making other people believe you know what's going on inside of a computer.

jscott

foreach ( $d in $domains) {
    Get-ADUser -Filter * -Server $d -Properties name, samaccountname, description, distinguishedname, enabled, lastlogondate |
        Foreach-Object {
            $_.name, $_.samaccountName, $_.description, $_.distinguishedName, $_.enabled, $_.lastlogondate, $d
        }
}

TheCleaner

I would think that would be enough credentials to use the tool the guy wrote

MDMarra

@jscott oh duh

I'll post that as a question

get you some repz

jscott

I think less hacky way

would be to trim the CanonicalName, which would save stepping into another ForEach

You should be able to do that right in the Select

TheCleaner

That blog is from iis.net, one of the lead programmers on the IIS team at MS. If that won't suffice, you'll need to go digging at this point, there's a reason the guy wrote it. — TheCleaner 40 secs ago

@tombull89 - too harsh?

mossy

2:27 PM

'morning

jscott

$j = Get-ADUser jscott -Properties *
$j.CanonicalName.Split("/")[0]

tombull89

@TheCleaner Seems good enough

jscott

As a simple example

MDMarra

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Q: How can I add a user's domain information to the pipeline in PowerShell when using Get-ADUser?

I'm trying to enumerate the name, samaccountname, and domain that each user in my forest belongs to and write it to a text file. The script that I have now is: Import-Module ActiveDirectory $domains = "root.org", "child1.root.org", "child2.root.org" ForEach ($d in $domains){ Get-ADUser -Fil...

If you want to collect some reps

HopelessN00b

@TheCleaner Jackass sounds like one of my former bosses. Worst boss/human being ever.

Dan

2:32 PM

I love CloneZilla, I've got three servers pulling an image at their full Gigabit connection speed

tombull89

@Dan I like it too, although it can be a bit funny with server network cards

jscott

@MDMarra Can you tell me if this works for you? It's returning correctly here.

foreach ( $d in $domains) {
    Get-ADUser -Filter * -ResultSetSize $null -Server $d -Properties name, samaccountname, canonicalName |
        Select-Object name, samaccountname, @{Name="Domain";Expression={$_.canonicalName.Split("/")[0]}}
}

Dan

@tombull89 See my previous messages today :D

jscott

HaHa! Another guy just posted the same thing without the split of canonicalName! Nice move, he deserves the upboats, even cleaner than what I was proposing.

tombull89

Have you tried turning it off and on again? — Scott Pack 4 mins ago

ಠ_ಠ

Scott Pack

2:37 PM

:)

@MDMarra That script doesn't look like valid perl or bash. I'm surprised you got it to run at all.

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Ward

2:53 PM

@Chopper3 @RobM Thanks!

Basil

What the heck is core.4280514.28192500 and what's it doing in my home directory?

HopelessN00b

@Basil Whatever it is, 0 Google hits, so it doesn't exist. Must be a figment of your imagination.

Basil

fun.

ewwhite

0

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Has anyone had experience with IBM component in this case the 2.5" SAS HDD backplane 94Y5978 to be used in other non-IBM casing, say coolermaster. On x3500M4 which 94Y5978 belongs to, the photo in its "red book" seemed to show 94Y5978 fits right into a few slots of 5.25" bays. Fitting this backpl...

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HopelessN00b

Are you trying to build your own server? Sounds like you're trying to build your own server. Don't build your own server. Tech support and a warranty alone are more than worth the small markup OEMs charge on servers. Throw in things like QA and design work, and only a fool tries to roll his own server. — HopelessN00b 10 secs ago

He is trying to build his own server, right?

Tanner

3:09 PM

@HopelessN00b Coolermaster case? I'd think so.

Dan

Just going through (someone elses) AD

And there is a computer in the Computers container called "localhost".

Interesting.

HopelessN00b

@Tanner Oh, I just Googled that. Looks like he's trying to put server hardware into a PC case. VTC, too localized, seeing as how too stupid still isn't a close reason.

Happy ninja

a server is per def a computer serving a task, so any computer can be a server, even your cellphone

HopelessN00b

@Happyninja TomTom? When did you get a sock puppet account?

jscott

If there's any one with AD >= 2008 schema, and the ActiveDirectory PS modules, could you run a little test for me and share the results?

Dan

3:15 PM

@Happyninja Yeah, but "professional IT" doesn't have such a loose definition. We define a server as fit for purpose, which roll-your-own solutions rarely fit

jscott

Get-ADObject -SearchBase (Get-ADRootDSE).SchemaNamingContext -Filter { Name -eq "Object-Category" -or Name -eq "Object-Class" } -Properties SearchFlags |
    Format-Table -AutoSize -Property Name, SearchFlags

Happy ninja

@Dan i'm a it pro and some of my client have a small business and it do fit the description

Dan

@Happyninja You're probably not doing it right then.

Happy ninja

there is a need to adapt a solution to fit a client budget

Dan

@Happyninja No - doing something on the cheap is still doing it wrong

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jscott

3:17 PM

It should output something like:

Happy ninja

@Dan that is an opinion among other

jscott

Name            SearchFlags
----            -----------
Object-Class              8
Object-Category           1

HopelessN00b

@Happyninja Yeah, the 7% or so you save rolling your own is never worth what you miss out on rolling your own.

Dan

@Happyninja Well, of course, but you're leading yourself down the path of instability and difficulty in support. I mean, c'mon, even a HP Microserver is better than nothing and theyre cheap as chips

HopelessN00b

They're on a budget, you buy a less powerful server, a refurb, last year's model, etc., to keep costs down without sacrificing warranty support, tech support, QA, and all the other things that come with an OEM server.

Dan

3:19 PM

Exactly - you're far from in the minority, @Happyninja, but @HopelessN00b is right.

RobM

There's also a need to say "That's a bad idea" to a client who asks you to do something that's, well, a bad idea. Or to say "That can't be done on your current budget" to someone who is effectively asking you to buy them a rolls royce but only wants to pay the cost of a second hand pushbike for it.

Happy ninja

@HopelessN00b i don't think you understand what i meant to express

take a file server as per example. what would you use for this? i think a nas solution fit it pretty good. cost a fraction of the price, run on linux and has all the capability of a full-packed server solution.

Tanner

On that note, if they're only going to pay for a second hand pushbike, buy them one, don't try to build one.

Dan

@Happyninja We're talking about hardware, primarily, thogh

Software choices is a whole different kettle of fish

Happy ninja

i built oem server and if you know what you are doing there is no issue. the issue is people who know nothing and experiment in a live environment.

Dan

3:22 PM

No

HopelessN00b

@Happyninja Call me crazy, but I'd use an actual NAS server. I have one for personal use (even under warranty), a Dell that I got for $3,000.

Dan

@Happyninja It's not an issue with inexperience or not knowing something - the issue is what do you when something breaks. Who do you call? Where's your support?

Happy ninja

@HopelessN00b if you feel it that way, it's up to you

@Dan we support it ourself. we know hardware

the hardware is under warranty, so if the problem is hardware and can't be repaired we ship it

tombull89

My home fileserver is self-built. I acknowledge that if it goes wrong I have to fix it at my own cost. I would never use self-built stuff in enterprise.

Happy ninja

technical support is most of the time shit

Dan

3:24 PM

@Happyninja Individual components, yes, but is someone guaranteeing the interoperability. Have you analysed air flow and cooling

Happy ninja

they just read what you already have in your technical manual

tombull89

Case in point: Our HP MSA dropped a disk. 4 hours later, we've got a new one with the array rebuilding.

Dan

@Happyninja I don't think you've ever actually used proper enteprise support, have you?

Happy ninja

@Dan yes

RobM

If you're a reseller/OEM building boxes for clients, that's one thing.

I know hardware. Plenty of us here know hardware. But fixing it, if it's not an obvious 2 min fix? My employer doesn't have time for that. They're paying me to do other things that they would rather I got on with instead of fixing hardware.

Dan

3:25 PM

@tombull89 Yeah, exactly, that was going to be my next post

HopelessN00b

@Happyninja Yeah, you don't call tech support to tell you what's wrong, you call tech support to ship you a replacement component in 4 hours.

jscott

@Happyninja I think "support" here means 24/7/4 hardware support (replacment).

Dan

@Happyninja Who's guaranteeing interoperability? I'll take your word on air flow

I just don't understand why you'd go down that track outside of crazy use cases like Google

Happy ninja

@jscott hardware as like other thing has a ttl.

if you build computer you must first guarantee interoperability, i mean, c'mon, we have a buddget and cannot afford ordering the wrong piece

tombull89

Hardware, it depends. I'd be happy to build my own desktops and servers, but the time I spend on building the things would be better suited to other things, and the money spent on me building them would be worth using on warranties - the three-year extended warranty we got on stuff here is quite frankly fantastic.

It's the pro/con between the cost and "oh it's broken I'll just get $supplier" to sort it.

Happy ninja

3:28 PM

hard drive are most of the time guarantee 3 to 5 years and it's good because that's pretty common it fail before the end

Dan

@Happyninja I don't mean in broad terms, what I meant is companies like HP & Dell pile considerable resources into testing, for example, their SAS controllers on their mainboards etc etc. What makes you think you can even come close to matching them with your off the shelf gear?

RobM

unless you're working for nothing AND there's nothing else more important for you to be doing, then building and fixing your own hardware costs substantially more than most IT people think. If you think it costs just $100 to replace a disk priced at $100 then you're getting divide by zero errors.

MDMarra

@jscott ya that worked

sorry I didn't post the link to the Q I asked, I got sidetracked

But I got an interesting answer inserting a hashtable into the select

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Q: How can I add a user's domain information to the pipeline in PowerShell when using Get-ADUser?

I'm trying to enumerate the name, samaccountname, and domain that each user in my forest belongs to and write it to a text file. The script that I have now is: Import-Module ActiveDirectory $domains = "root.org", "child1.root.org", "child2.root.org" ForEach ($d in $domains){ Get-ADUser -Fil...

windows active-directory powershell

jscott

@MDMarra No, you did post the Q -- the guy answered the same thing but better

HopelessN00b

Meh. You wanna do it wrong, do it wrong, what do I care? Just more money to be made fixing messes that never should have happened in the first place.

Dan

3:30 PM

Okay, look at this way. When I walked in on Monday I had a HDD failure. My procedure was:

1. Call HP and tell them

Cold T

anyone know a quick way to check which interfaces are are connected to POE devices on cisco?

MDMarra

@jscott Heh, I guess I did

Happy ninja

@Dan as previously said, it is not the point. The point is, if you are a 'it pro' or whatever, you need to build solution fitting a budget or you won't win the bidding process at all. I'm not saying Dell is shit, I'm saying you need to respect the client budget.

Dan

@ColdT Unplug them and put your tongue onthe cable

@Happyninja Bullshit.

jscott

@MDMarra Do you have a sec to run a quick ps?

Cold T

3:30 PM

@Dan you been drinking too much ;)

tombull89

@ColdT It's Friday, probably.

@Happyninja tbh, I'd prefer older, refurbished gear over self-built stuff.

Dan

If the client isn't being realistic with their expectations then you should deal with that. Do you think Audi would give me a car for £100 if I walk in to the dealership?

Happy ninja

@Dan it's your opinion

MDMarra

@jscott sure

jscott

15 mins ago, by jscott

Get-ADObject -SearchBase (Get-ADRootDSE).SchemaNamingContext -Filter { Name -eq "Object-Category" -or Name -eq "Object-Class" } -Properties SearchFlags |
    Format-Table -AutoSize -Property Name, SearchFlags

HopelessN00b

3:32 PM

@Happyninja Also his opinion that the Earth isn't flat. What of it?

Dan

@Happyninja No offence, but you sound exactly like the kind of companies that wind up making a hash of somewhere leaving the customer to call us, pay the proper amount of money as they should have the first time, so that we can go and do it properly

MDMarra

Name SearchFlags
---- -----------
Object-Class 9
Object-Category 1

Dan

You're totally right, it does win bids. But it's not a sustainable business plan IMHO

But whatever, like @HopelessN00b says, I like doing things properly on a realistic and suitable budget.

MDMarra

Now that I've run a random script from the internet on my production environment, I'll bite - what's it doing? :)

jscott

@MDMarra Fuck me... I mean thanks. Your objectClass is indexed 0x9, mine is returning 0x8 which is unindexed.

HopelessN00b

3:34 PM

@Dan Indeed. And I guess I can't complain that there's someone out there making sure I'll always have a job to go to.

jscott

@MDMarra It's grabbing the searchFlags for the attributes objectClass and objectCategory from the schema defs: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/…

Happy ninja

@HopelessN00b i've been doing it for many years, and i've learnt experience by working with people having even more experience. it's easy to just drop word like 'bullshit' and insult people but at the end of the day it's your opinion

MDMarra

@jscott ah

Dan

@Happyninja I didn't mean to just leave it that, it was overly harsh and I'm sorry for that

But I really do disagree that it's the way to go about things. Clients are full of crap, and the budget is never the real budget

And, at the end of the day, if they can't afford it then that's not really our problem

Happy ninja

@Dan i know but there is a budget. Adapting technology to their need is the goal.

Dan

3:36 PM

@Happyninja Yeah, but I refuse to believe you save that much over buying tried, tested and guaranteed server hardware

jscott

@MDMarra So now I'm left wondering how we're functional level 2008R2, but objectClass isn't indexed. It means things in our schema aren't correct. This is not the rabbit hole I wanted to explore on a Friday.

Dan

And you can get all the niceties like out of band management, rapid support etc etc

MDMarra

@jscott good times, good times

Tanner

@Happyninja How long have you been building your servers and how many of them do you have out there?

Happy ninja

@Dan we work inside money limit

Tanner

3:37 PM

Because I'm starting to think you're either not watching the numbers or you're just small and it hasn't bit you yet.

HopelessN00b

@Happyninja So do we.

Dan

@Happyninja Yeah, but what I'm saying is that real servers don't have to be expensive

Happy ninja

@Dan i do agree with that

Dan

It's not like an entry level HP server is double the cost of a top spec self buid

pauska

I just got forced to set everyones startpage to our intranet site.. which isn't ultra-bad

Tanner

3:39 PM

@pauska Bad day for help desk...

pauska

the second part is however.. I was also forced to add iexplore to hkcu\run for all users..

"people are not reading our intranet"

yeah, by all means, don't make the intranet actually useful, just force it in peoples face

fucking management sometimes..

Dan

@pauska 0.o

Ah well, social problem solved by technology. Standard operating procedure now :(

HopelessN00b

@pauska Heh. I had to do that a while back. We got loads support tickets in from people that were literally "help, my home page changed, and now I don't know how to get to [url of intranet site]." Amazing how this job still finds ways to kill me a little inside.

tombull89

@HopelessN00b We had that too. Homepage from Google to intranet? OMGODZ THE INTENET IS GONE!!!one1!11!!

HopelessN00b

@tombull89 Don't think I'm trying to one-up you or anything, but I found mine particularly painful, given that our intranet is three letters. No www, no TLD, three letters. Which was still, somehow, too much for our users to remember/parse. <sigh>

Tanner

3:45 PM

Screw you both I get "I WANT MSN BACK NAO!!!!!1"

My users love msn.com ;_; breaks my heart (and my Citrix servers...)

tombull89

@Tanner aol.com is worse.

HopelessN00b

Could always be worse. Could be yahoo.

Tanner

If I ever saw aol.com as a homepage I would ban that user from touching any of my machines.

tombull89

Jun 29 '11 at 14:06, by tombull89

home page goes to msn > bing search for google > click on google search result > google for youtube > click on youtube search result > search on youtube for video > me cry.

HopelessN00b

@Tanner If only that was an option. It's usually some C-whatever-O who's been using AOL they invented the internet in 1998.

Dan

3:47 PM

@Tanner The MSN page takes forever load. I hate when IE isn't configured and it insists on launchina tab

MDMarra

@pauska Wouldn't iexplore.exe yourshittyintranet.com in a logon script be better?

That way when they realize it's a dumb idea it's less painful to remove?

Tanner

@tombull89 I... I don't even know what to say to that.

I have been told, on several occasions, "but if you change my home page from MSN I won't be able to find my bookmarks!"

Still can't pin down the train of thought there...

HopelessN00b

@Tanner Train of what, now?

Tanner

Ah, good point.

Cole

4:05 PM

Anyone the easiest way to compare two directories on separate servers to find the file(s) that are not on both? (RHEL 6)

HopelessN00b

@Cole diff ?

@Cole Jah, diff . Good to know my Linux skills aren't completely gone, and also, fuck markdown. linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2008/05/…

Cole

@HopelessN00b gracias

HopelessN00b

Fucking markdown.

Cole

I was going down the using rsync -n path

Hrm... probably will need to mount the directories from one server to another..or ssh?

HopelessN00b

Unless they're network shared, I'd think so.

Cole

4:14 PM

@HopelessN00b yeah that's what I'm thinking

HopelessN00b

I love that Windows admin share. I'd kiss C$ , if I could.

Tom O'Connor

Downvotes at the ready!

-1

A: autorestart service

Control panels can do this for you as well. For example, here is Webmin http://doxfer.webmin.com/Webmin/SystemAndServerStatus

licks @Cole

FFS. Webmin does not belong here. It does not belong anywhere, actually.

HopelessN00b

Jeebus, I'm at -5 on the day. Damn morons posting crappy answers.

Cole

@TomO'Connor hayy

Dan

@TomO'Connor Boom!

Whoa whoa whoa, what the heck

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jscott

4:27 PM

Both pictured there are False Evans.

Tanner

It's the one on the very left. No picture.

mossy

@Dan Isn't that the guy that posts stupid shit on meta?

Tanner

Just meta?

Dan

@mossy It's the guy who leaves a trail of stupid shit wherever he treads

Iain

s/on meta//

mossy

4:27 PM

Oh right.

Cole

well okay then, ksh is only installed on these RHEL 6.2 boxes...

Tom O'Connor

4:39 PM

I met the grand high spolsky last night.

MDMarra

Is he weird?

Ladadadada

5:28 PM

@TomO'Connor You managed to take a photo of me last night.

ewwhite

okay... who can help me with some weird server specs?

Client asks for... "2 x 12 Core Intel CPU - 64Gb RAM - 12x 600G 15K drives in a raid-0 for data - 2x dual-port 10G connections"

tombull89

BALLS.

jscott

>12x 600G 15K drives in a raid-0 for data

ewwhite

12-core Intels?

tombull89

12x Disks in RAID0

Does that count HT?

ewwhite

5:34 PM

I don't think they know what they're asking for

MDMarra

@ewwhite 8GB RAM is small nowadays

ewwhite

@MDMarra ?

MDMarra

64Gb == 8GB

:)

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite They exist

ewwhite

@JoelESalas which model?

Joel E Salas

5:37 PM

@ewwhite ark.intel.com/products/47916/…

12 "cores" with HT

ewwhite

@JoelESalas THat's an old westmere... I used X5690's for years.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite I'm not recommending that, it's just the one I knew :)

ewwhite

Intel E7-4850's are 10-core.

do people still believe in 15k rpm disks?

Joel E Salas

Versus 10K?

ewwhite

yep

Iain

5:49 PM

I despair sometimes

If I do not set up a dns on my VPS, how can I use my domain that I registered by another company? currently I can access my web site using ip of VPS. — Reza S 14 mins ago

Happy ninja

i'm playing around with esxi 5.1.0 it seem funny

tombull89

@Happyninja compared to...?

Happy ninja

@tombull89 compare to virtualbox ose, or vmware workstation. and compare to the fact i have a gorgeous server.

more easy i think, and more stable i hope

tombull89

@Happyninja Oh, yeah, Virtualbox doesn't really compare. It's nice to use to test stuff out on but you're more likely to find ESXi in production enviroments (that's what I use at my job, although a slightly older version).

Happy ninja

that's true for virtualbox. ;) my last project had to be on open-source software only so there were not much alternative

tombull89

6:01 PM

Hmm...isn't KVM open-source?

Also, open source only? That's...interesting.

David

Morning everyone

Happy ninja

i have a poweredge t410 and a t110, working on the t110 at the time, the other one is a bit heavy to move around lol

Iain

@Happyninja They're not even the same toys

Happy ninja

@tombull89 it was...messy

@Iain yeah, but ya know, nice toys

David

jeebus, theres ANOTHER java 0-day?

The company has found that the flaw can be exploited successfully in browsers that have Java v1.6 Update 41 or Java v1.7 Update 15 installed, the latest versions of Oracle’s plugin.

Happy ninja

6:20 PM

"Metasploit founder HD Moore warned Oracle was still sitting on a backlog of Java flaws that will take up to two years to patch, even without the discovery of new flaws." --> theregister.co.uk/2013/01/30/oracle_java_security_analysis

in other word, just Disable Java in web browsers

HopelessN00b

6:35 PM

@Happyninja Better to do what the major AV vendors should be doing and classifying it as a virus already. Disinfect your machines; remove Java.

Joel E Salas

@HopelessN00b Juniper VPN :(

David

Is there any ACTUAL / REAL advantage to using Firefox ESR @ a workplace?

as opposed to just updating everyone when the new MSIs come out

HopelessN00b

6:50 PM

@David I dunno, we're still bleeding edge here. IE 7, bitches!

David

@HopelessN00b lol, feel sorry for you bro

HopelessN00b

Yeah, me too.

David

time to get a new job that doesnt kill you slowly via ancient technologies

jscott

@David So that it will kill you quickly with bleeding edge technologies instead?

David

@jscott yes

LIVE LIFE ON THE EDGE

Stack Exchange

6:57 PM

In devops we have best minds of generation are deal with flaky VPN client.

Tweeted by DEVOPS_BORAT on March 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

ewwhite

I need to get on top of my game...

how did I miss that?

Zoredache

@David you don't have to re-train staff every other month because they change the way something works?

David

@Zoredache not with firefox

Zoredache

I am trying to come up with a good example, but I haven't seen one in a year, but when they redid the UI a while back and moved the bookmarks, and re-arranged some menus people got really whiny here.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Do you need a monitoring expert :)

ewwhite

7:04 PM

prolly.

heading to LA sometime soon

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Hope you have a better time than I did, at least. Oh, and if you're out in Baldwin Park I may have a few computers and/or users I'd like set on fire, so, you know... let me know if that's of interest to you.

voretaq7

@ewwhite . . . what did you do to /var?

ewwhite

10GB of samba core files!

Matt Bear

0/

voretaq7

@ewwhite . . . . applause

ewwhite

7:18 PM

:(

Tanner

Anyone here handy with IBM i5 print services? =D

Matt Bear

looks like a quite morning....

:D

Tanner

Yeah didn't think so.

Matt Bear

which is suprising considering we changed internet providers last night....

yay

mossy

What am i missing?
http://serverfault.com/questions/483885/why-my-scp-is-working-one-side-only-lost-connection-scp-transfer

Matt Bear

7:26 PM

@mossy hey, that's exactly when I'm doing right now lol

copying webservers over SCP

mossy

Dont copy it to /dev/null like you tried to do the other day

givin' me a minor heart attack n shit

Matt Bear

lol

its so quick that way though!

mossy

:|

HopelessN00b

@Tanner I actually do have some experience with them, but only the basic stuff, fortunately.

Tanner

@HopelessN00b Ever have a print job stuck on PND?

voretaq7

7:42 PM

@Tanner Anything in the job log?

Tanner

@voretaq7 Nothing I can understand. I'm not even sure I'm looking at the right log.

Getting some training on it in two weeks luckily. Tired of fumbling around in this system.

HopelessN00b

@Tanner Yeah, Usually we restarted the print queue and resubmitted the job to clear it, sometimes it was an issue with the printer itself, so we'd swear about printers sucking and reboot/service/kick the printer.

pauska

@mdmarra no, because they A) already were forcing a different page as home screen and B) they want to control the setting

Tanner

@HopelessN00b I can print straight to the printer, just not through i5/OS. Restarting the print queue isn't getting it to move again. God damn printers...

HopelessN00b

7:58 PM

@Tanner And I assume release doesn't actually release it? (In which case, that's all I got.)

Tanner

Nope. Says it can't release it because it's all ready to go.

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