The Bridge

> The legislative director for Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) sent out this strongly worded warning before Thursday's vote: "You know who else supports destroying history so that they can advance their own agenda? [The Islamic State]. Don't be like ISIL."

Lazers 2.0

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Q: When will it be possible to submit new portals again?

I know portal submission has been suspended, but it was meant to be temporary and it's been like eight months now. Has there been an announcement about the restoration of this feature?

ingress

0

Q: Cannot buy stockpile items anymore – even if they are available!

It really pisses me off! I was just playing “Assassin’s Creed 3” up to sequence 9. Right now, I am exploring the map and making money by buying pelts from Myriam and selling them via a land or naval convoy. In the meantime, I am trying to produce as many goods as possible. But there seems to be ...

assassins-creed-3

Unionhawk

The soth will rise again or something

two bugs

Only a soth deals in absolutes

Unionhawk

Yeah basically

GodEmperorDune

Soth? RIP @origamirobot

Unionhawk

8:19 PM

No, you're thinking of a sloth

That's a different thing

GodEmperorDune

It is 80% the same

Unionhawk

80% the same is not the same as ===

GodEmperorDune

===? I'm not refrance checking

MadMAxJr

==== That's a comparator that the variable needs a doctors note to get out of.

Ronan

8:31 PM

All equalities are equal, but some equalities are more equal than others.

MadMAxJr

Animal Farm.

GodEmperorDune

hehehe, i knew @Frank would VTC the examples in that meta question. too bad i VTC first

badp

All right thought experiment there are three seats on the train one next to another and they're kinda narrow. Let's call those seats 🔴🔵⭕️ (red blue white)

which seat do you take

GodEmperorDune

@badp window

badp

the window is behind seats 🔵 and ⭕️

this is actually true btw

GodEmperorDune

8:41 PM

i guess blue for more room then

Frank

@GodEmperorDune Someone uses old questions to justify a new one. That usually means the old ones get closed, not the new one reopened.

GodEmperorDune

@Frank oh yes i agree

badp

@GodEmperorDune why not the side seats.

why are you taking three seats to yourself.

how can you be such a terrible person.

GodEmperorDune

@badp because i am a greedy american

@badp i learned from @Wipqozn

is the train usually fully populated?

badp

@GodEmperorDune UR RITE U PROLLY ARE LIKE 200KG AND FAT AND MERICAN AND REGULARLY TAKE WHOOPER FLEBOS LOL

DATA ACCEPTED XD,,,,

GodEmperorDune

8:43 PM

@badp I DON'T KNOW WHAT A KG ISSSSSSSSSSSS

badp

@GodEmperorDune NOT ENOUGH 4 U

WE DON NEED KGS WHERE WERE GOIN HER

Arperum

@GodEmperorDune A reasonable weight unit.

badp

LOL LETS TALK TITANICS THATD BE EASIER ROFLMAO

Arperum

throws hammer at @badp reboot button

badp

anyway please be considerate and think about where the next person might want to sit

so that when the next person does come you'll BOTH be way more comfortable

GodEmperorDune

8:47 PM

@badp which is why i asked how populated the train usually gets

badp

you want to be comfortable yes? then don't take the middle seat

GodEmperorDune

if it is pretty sparse, then center

if it is full, then a side

badp

@GodEmperorDune why does it matter though? Why do you have to force someone else to walk further away even if he'd have picked that seat

ardaozkal

→1 user moved to Android Hell

GodEmperorDune

@badp walk further? what?

badp

8:49 PM

You take the middle seat. The next person comes, sees that you're being an asshole, and has to walk further. If you'd taken the side seat, breed have just sat down instead

Maybe you didn't notice but further here actually means in the next car because the train filled up in the meanwhile

GodEmperorDune

i still don't get why the window is behind the seats

that seems like a waste of space

badp

or you're sitting in the previous few second seats in an otherwise first class car

MadMAxJr

Seating will now be accomplished by an algorithm that minimizes human contact when placing.

badp

The asshole who took the middle seat left so I could snap the photo

GodEmperorDune

@badp csi time, we finally got a reflection of @badp in the window

badp

8:54 PM

zoom and enhance

though now I feel sorry to the person who sat next to me

GodEmperorDune

also those look like the most uncomfortable set of seats

MadMAxJr

After you zoom a few times, he's exactly like his icon.

badp

@GodEmperorDune all the more reason not to take middle to yourself

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr at least use spoiler tags before you ruin it for me

@badp i'd rather ride on the roof of the train

i would not sit in any of those

or is the whole train these weird compressed seating arrangements?

MadMAxJr

'Action Hero Seating' - Top of train

badp

8:56 PM

No. The rest of the car is first class

MadMAxJr

In America we could put two more seats on those sides. Maybe vertical stack two more.

GodEmperorDune

i'd go to the next car then

badp

The adjacent cars are first class too. I'm not trying to be difficult I'd usually avoid those myself

GodEmperorDune

@badp so this is literally the ONLY place to sit on the train

badp

unless you walk a decent distance

GodEmperorDune

8:58 PM

i'd walk

badp

well then thank you for taking the bullet

and leaving all seats available

GodEmperorDune

also it would be pretty funny if @badp had to stand the whole train ride while debating this on the bridge instead of just sitting in one

> WHICH SEAT DO I TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

its @badp, @badp, gotta ride home with @badp

badp

The picture proves I was sitting

Unionhawk

Apparently drug retests are hair tests

So they shaved my armpit hair and everything is weird forever

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk depends on the test

ardaozkal

9:00 PM

@badp completed

badp

I OCCASIONALLY HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ON WHICH SEAT I SHOULD TAKE

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk did you get their credentials? that doesn't sound legit

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune last time came back negative - dilute

@GodEmperorDune it is

ardaozkal

zoomed, enhanced, lightened:

badp

@Unionhawk did they take both armpits for symmetry?

ardaozkal

9:01 PM

GodEmperorDune

@ardaozkal again with the homebrew imgur?

badp

Please, I have much better taste in watches

ardaozkal

@GodEmperorDune yes

our genetical matching algorithms are working on finding the real identity

badp

Now parsing, Genesis 1:3 Atheists

will science find the checkmate

OR SHOULD I SAY GEN-ISIS AMIRITE

MadMAxJr

....

For that, Overwatch is delayed 15 minutes.

GodEmperorDune

9:10 PM

@MadMAxJr the wall just got 5 feet taller

ardaozkal

IDENTIFICATION COMPLETE

@GodEmperorDune whose wall? mei's?

for the imgurians

I made it as annoying as I can

Lazers 2.0

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Q: How can I watch full games of halo 5 from the web?

How can I watch Halo 5 Guardian games that I played in from the web without making it into a clip using xbox dvr?

halo-5-guardians

GnomeSlice

rack of ribs for $10 fuck yes

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice nice

MadMAxJr

You're trying to draw aggro. Nice try. It's almost quitting time at work.

Unionhawk

9:19 PM

@GodEmperorDune it was the only spot they could get enough hair

urge to flag rises

@ardaozkal ISIS?

yes

it's a thing

yeah

it is a real danger and joking with it can be considered joking with the lives of the people they killed, but its drunk badp so idgaf

GodEmperorDune

9:23 PM

just call them daesh

GnomeSlice

&play labrat jamrock

oops

wrong app

ardaozkal

wrong app

GnomeSlice

Damian Marley - Welcome to Jamrock (Labrat Remix)

►

there tho

badp

@ardaozkal deriding the murderers is quite different from deriding the murdered

but I'll take my time out

Unionhawk

I am now downloading android studio

Why?

ardaozkal

9:26 PM

sorry- nothing personal, but I don't really like jokes about terrorist organizations. Especially IS as it is a real danger to us (people in turkey).

Unionhawk

Iunno

Vogel612

and here I was looking for a little more drama like in the h-bar

Unionhawk

-popcorn

:)

Vogel612

-10kusers

~poof

ardaozkal

d-did he flag his own post?

Unionhawk

9:29 PM

iunno

But he is doing what he does and taking 30 minutes to do something else

Why?

Because that's what he do

ardaozkal

because productivity

GodEmperorDune

it doesn't say he was banned

ardaozkal

yah, checked

can mods even be banned?

GodEmperorDune

nope

Unionhawk

No but deleted by feeds

But there's no record other than that, and with that, -popcorn pls

GodEmperorDune

9:31 PM

more like +clown amirite

Unionhawk

No

You are wrong

ardaozkal

+wrong

djsmiley2k

o/

yo ho ho

so at work, they trying to force new contract on the two perm guys

two bugs

Did I miss something?

Unionhawk

Eh probably not

GodEmperorDune

9:46 PM

@twobugs yeah, @uni volunteered to give his stream mod powers to me

Unionhawk

That isn't even a thing I have to give

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk you're a @twobugs stream mod

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune only the streamer can mod/unmod

Unionhawk

Yes

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage pshaw

details

Unionhawk

9:49 PM

INSTALLING ANDROID STUDIO

Dragonrage

@Unionhawk ew

java

GnomeSlice

blog.bandcamp.com/2016/05/19/…

ardaozkal

@GnomeSlice what is bc's revenue model?

GnomeSlice

I don't even know what that means

Dragonrage

@GnomeSlice how do they make money

GnomeSlice

9:51 PM

bandcamp.com/pricing

wait, that's for artists

ardaozkal

yep

that's what I asked

GnomeSlice

bandcamp.com/fair_trade_music_policy

Unionhawk

@Dragonrage MORE LIKE

LEARNING

ardaozkal

@Unionhawk LEARNING OR TORTURING (self)

Dragonrage

@uni's imitate @badp protocol has initiated

Unionhawk

9:53 PM

@ardaozkal LEARNING

ardaozkal

@GnomeSlice I thought that money went to artist directly (hence it requires multiple paypal payments when you put multiple artists to your cart), hence I asked the revenue model. I guess I don't understand a part between.

GnomeSlice

it does, I think

obviously bandcamp takes some of it

right?

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Running around for Exploration experience

What is exploration experience? This is boosted by the Exploration trait on items, do we normally get enough base xp to make this a worthwhile trait to use? Is it possible to strategically increase the rate of getting exploration xp, besides just running around exploring the map (which would be d...

the-elder-scrolls-online

GnomeSlice

> we pay out daily

I guess they just keep separate accounts for each artist?

ardaozkal

probably.

confusing design though.

I'd expected something like "you need to pay 2 x Minimum Price to put up this song" for artists, but that, speaking in UX terms, would scare off a good amount of artists.

Dragonrage

10:04 PM

@AshleyNunn i think you missed @spugsley

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Can we craft multiple traits on a single item?

There are 9 different traits that can be researched for each armor or weapon piece. When crafting an item, what is the maximum traits that can be added?

the-elder-scrolls-online

ardaozkal

wolfram alpha is magical

Dragonrage

It also brings all the boys, and everything else, to the yard.

cc @Wipqozn

ardaozkal

nice, and wait what how

My average was 150 when I first got this pc

I'm sure that this is not refurbished... so I guess drivers and Windows 10 maybe?

two bugs

twitch.tv/twobugs suffering

GodEmperorDune

10:14 PM

@twobugs i was gonna skip the ad, but its an overwatch short

Lazers 2.0

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Q: What are the downsides to giving away Migration Access?

I've been playing my first game of Stellaris as a Xenophile empire, and since I didn't know what the pros and cons were I have been giving away Migration Access to other empires whenever the option comes up. Now I'm a bit further in, it seems to me that it provides a lot of benefits: You get po...

stellaris

badp

@twobugs this game is pretty legit

GodEmperorDune

@badp am i not in the right chatroom?

or did i get shadowbanned?

in twitch

badp

I dunno, twitch hates me atm

maybe now that I'm sitting through an ad

user15026

I find I have a lot of trouble with twitch streams.

user15026

10:26 PM

They end up buffering and stuff a lot of the time.

ardaozkal

@AshleyNunn this

badp

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=63
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63

how is this a thing that happens

GodEmperorDune

i am totally chatting in @twobugs stream room but i think he has me blcoked or something

@badp why are you hitting an internal ip instead of twitch server?

dammit @uni what did you do

user15026

@ardaozkal It's weird for me because like..I have 15/10 internet in my basement yet it still struggles

badp

@GodEmperorDune that is my landlord's router

GodEmperorDune

10:29 PM

i'll reboot the twitch app

badp

I am within feet of my own router 192.168.42.1, which is then physically wired to 192.168.0.1

Chippies

@badp wifi can do that

but if your router is physically wired to the landlord's router then it might be a wifi problem with your router

we're couple feet from the router as well and the wifi can get crappy at times

badp

unfortunately I can't move the router

due to the physical link

I only have an ethernet cable coming out of a hole through the floor

GodEmperorDune

@badp shadiest internet ever

ardaozkal

isn't sharing internet illegal?

user15026

10:40 PM

What do you mean?

user15026

How would you even quantify that?

ardaozkal

It is illegal in turkey to share internet between two houses.

GodEmperorDune

@ardaozkal wat

i bet AT&T would love that

ardaozkal

AT&T already blocks mobile sharing afaik

user15026

I share internet with teh upstairs people

user15026

10:42 PM

they have the main router, mine just repeats the wifi

GodEmperorDune

i heard some apartments in NYC all pooled money to have a superfast connection shared by the whole building. ATT was pissed

ardaozkal

huh, that being legal is neat.

Why they made it illegal is that whole neighborhoods were using the same internet and paying together.

user15026

@GodEmperorDune @Yuuki @otherKOLpeople I assume you have seen this?

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn yep

Chippies

@ardaozkal illegal by law?

GodEmperorDune

10:44 PM

i tried to upvote it and steam timed out

Chippies

or forbidden by ISP?

ardaozkal

@Chippies yes

big companies rule turkey

Chippies

@ardaozkal I... what? How is that even a thing?

how is enforced? what are the rules?

can I use my connection with 1 device only?

do all the devices connected to my router have to be owned by the subscriber of the service?

what?

I don't even

user15026

@Chippies you are basically asking all the questions I have about how you would even enforce that

ardaozkal

Just checked, not illegal by law.

yet, they have to fine you as much as they want

user15026

10:46 PM

@GodEmperorDune I figured but that is the first time I've signed in since they posted about it so I was excited :D

ardaozkal

(they can ask for high amounts and get you jailed when you don't pay though)

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn yeah i was thinking about friending jick on steam :D

ardaozkal

oh wait

user15026

@GodEmperorDune why not? :)

ardaozkal

Will post the law in turkish and then translate

406 sayılı posta ve telgraf kanunu: [...] Ayrıca failleri hakkında iki milyar liradan otuz milyar liraya kadar ağır para cezasına hükmolunur.Tekerrürü halinde failler hakkında altı aydan iki yıla kadar hapis ve dört milyar liradan altmış milyar liraya kadar ağır pada cezası verilir.

Frank

10:48 PM

I'm still so happy about getting that second interview.

John

@AshleyNunn This is amazing.

ardaozkal

Your service will be shut down, the ISP can ask from 2000 to 30000try, if you do it again (another ISP etc. doesn't matter, if you do it again with any ISP), they can ask for 4000 to 60000try and from 6 months to 2 years of jail time.

user15026

@John I am pretty excited

ardaozkal

oh wait

kurumsal.turktelekom.com.tr/internet/web/destek/bilgi-bankasi/…

Up to 6 months of jail time, 5000 to 10000 days of punitive fine.

(laws are determined by days and the amount paid on those days are determined by something else)

So yeah, it is a law.

@Chippies 1) big companies rule turkey 2) lawsuit - your internet can only be used by people living in the same house 3) nope, as much as your modem allows 4) nope, but the people using it has to live in the same house 5) exactly.

Tim Stone

Ocean, you terrifying

Lazers 2.0

10:58 PM

-1

Q: Does Xbox 360 work on crt tv

I want to know if Kinect Xbox 360 can work on CRT tvs since I can't be able to use the living room tv while my grandparents are watching something like the news or whatever. I just found this crt tv on eBay and I am wondering if it can work on Xbox 360 alongside with the Kinect.

xbox-360 xbox

-1

Q: can only get one 360 fight stick to work on PS3 at a time! Can you help?

Have adapters and they work! But can't use both controllers at once.

mortal-kombat

user15026

@TimStone augh. The ocean is full of things that just make me go "maybe we weren't meant to look there"

ardaozkal

@TimStone WHAT IS THAT

@Yuuki why aren't you here posting eyebleach foods when you are needed the most

Frank

I can post pics of super awesome models, instead.

ardaozkal

materialization o- whatever too sleepy to be a plasticist

Frank

ardaozkal

11:03 PM

materilitton of plastic

MBraedley

Man, rum is a great stress reliever.

ardaozkal

#plasticlivesmatter

Alsoo, according to resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2008/11/20081110M1-3.htm it actually is a law. (Search for MADDE 63, try to read and understand (2))

also that looks awesome

oh no I actually triggered yuuki lol

hi, can you post food while you are here?

you are the best at it

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley yes it is

ardaozkal

the wings are somewhat out of place, but yeah, just my opinion.

Yuuki

Lack of Internet is problematic.

Lazers 2.0

11:09 PM

-1

Q: how do i unlock expert mode on mobile?

Do they have lunatic cultist on the terraria 1.2.11979 version? I defeated the golem but the cultist wont spawn. I would like to progress further if someone has a solution.

terraria-mobile

ardaozkal

bad ideas^TM with arda: Bridge Simulator using Markov Chains.

Yuuki

I did that some time ago.

user15026

@GnomeSlice Aww, boo. Unless they have a decent single player mode, then I won't be picking it up because I'm not going to have anyone to play with

ardaozkal

@Yuuki link?

Yuuki

@ardaozkal It's two scripts on my computer, so no link.

@AshleyNunn Yeah, same here.

ardaozkal

11:15 PM

@Yuuki never used on actual website? :(

Yuuki

"We are champions of couch co-op" as a reason just sounds like "we are champions of avoiding having to write netcode".

Chippies

@ardaozkal if I have my router set to have no password, I can't control who uses it

am I supposed to always have a password on wifi?

or am I supposed to be savvy enough to whitelist MAC's?

ardaozkal

checking

Chippies

what if my friend comes over? can he use the wifi?

ardaozkal

> allowing public access

Chippies

11:17 PM

can I host a LAN party in my house?

ardaozkal

so yeah, by not using any password, you allow public access, and therefore breaking the laws

I thought of downloading this data, and separately markov chaining users... but decided not to do it once I saw that there were more than 2688648 messages on bridge (5377 api calls required, very visible).

Chippies

most importantly, how can they tell if I'm using my internet service in a way that breaks their ToS?

ardaozkal

@Chippies technically no: "TTNET'in yazılı izni olmadıkça başkalarına kullandıramaz." (cannot let others use without written approval from [name of isp])

same for lan parties

Chippies

@ardaozkal so if I call the technician from ISP to service my router, do I need to ask for a written approval that they can connect to it?

ardaozkal

@Chippies usually can't. Most news I saw from that was people getting arrested for CP and other very illegal stuff other people did on their networks.

KutuluMike

11:21 PM

@Chippies I know that Comcast used to track things like unique MAC addresses behind their cable model, volume of/spikes in traffic, unique outbound connections, etc.

Ktash

@spugsley :O .... I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THIS LEVEL OF NEWS :O :O :O

Chippies

@KutuluMike I know some ISP's lock you to a single MAC, which does nothing to prevent multiple users if you're behind a router

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Apparently the place I got the candy has got viral and they are crazy overwhelmed with orders. Glad mine made it to me :)

KutuluMike

@Chippies true, if you're smart enough you can always work around it.

I have a Linux firewall between my LAN and my cable model just because Comcast used to do that.

Chippies

@KutuluMike most ISP's provide you with a router to begin with, so you don't even have to be smart

user15026

11:22 PM

@spugsley Holy balls that's like kinda yay in a way but also NOT VERY MUCH TIME holy crap

ardaozkal

@Chippies yes, they bring a small authorization letter.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn dammit

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

KutuluMike

@Chippies yes, but if that router is plugged directly into your LAN, it can detect how many other machines are on the local segment and selectively ignore them.

Chippies

@ardaozkal holy shit that is fucked up

KutuluMike

I'm pretty sure that's part of DOCSIS

Chippies

11:23 PM

@KutuluMike but it can not detect which of those machines are owned by you and which are not

unless you literally have an x amount of devices connected at a time rule

KutuluMike

true. but it can detect "there was one here before and now there's two so ignore the second", or even worse, "there was one here before but now there's three so suspend their account"

user15026

"If you ordered Friday or after we are playing catch up and your order may take more than 7 days, possibly as long as three or four weeks. This should not be the case for the vast majority of the orders, but we want you to know the possibility.

We put what we felt was a good estimate of shipping time up on our website starting on Friday the 13th, we tried to be conservative in our estimate as we were unsure what was hitting us. We adjusted it as we went forward."

ardaozkal

@Chippies well, more like a piece of preprinted paper with details of your issue and your contact info etc to help technician on front and legal stuff (like auth letter and pricing) in behind.

Chippies

@KutuluMike so if I buy a new phone, I'm fucked?

KutuluMike

well like I said, this is what Comcast used to do.

in like 1998

ardaozkal

11:24 PM

well if my isp decides to check me:

Ktash

@spugsley 1) Yeah.... Mostly just around here but yeah.... :( 2) If you need help or something let me know and I can try and help with things. (Like if you need someone to check something or take pictures or whatever let me know). 3) You will know me (kinda)!

KutuluMike

whichever the first MAC the modem saw when it booted, that was all you got.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn better order soon

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune I did not, also you should get a message

Chippies

I mean, none of this seems reasonable or simple to enforce without lots of false alarms

Unionhawk

11:25 PM

Something like "you are banned from speaking in twobugs for x seconds"

user15026

@spugsley hugs Hopefully you can find awesome things and everything works out. I'm not that useful but hey if you just need to be like HOLY SHIT THINGS AAAAAAA I can listen

user15026

....how do I keep ending up with like three bridge tabs open?

Chippies

unless you have literally unlimited bandwidth, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to have unlimited amount of devices connected to a single connection (besides hardware limitations)

ardaozkal

@AshleyNunn pings :(

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs not a fun way to end a stream :(

Chippies

11:27 PM

of course I can see it being an issue when you have an apartment building with cables running to all apartments from a single gigabit connection

but lets be real - who even offers gigabit connection anyway

ardaozkal

The devices that connects to our Wifi (exc. guests): My PC, My Phone, My Raspi, My ESP8266, My ESP8266#2, Dad's PC, Dad's PC#2, Dad's Phone, Dad's Phone#2, Dad's Tablet, Sister's PC, Sister's Tablet, Mom's Phone.

GodEmperorDune

but thanks for suffering anyway @twobugs

Chippies

and you'd need an expensive hardware to pull that off

two bugs

@GodEmperorDune Sorry! That was just frustrating for me so meh

I was doing completely fine until being chain hit for 1/4th my hp :|

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs you need to take more bandaids

and use your pepsi bar

ardaozkal

11:29 PM

So yeah, one MAC address being allowed would be a huge problem. (like, we have 13 wifi enabled devices in home that recently connected to our Wifi, probably even more wifi enabled stuff that doesn't connect usually too)

also gnight bridge, its 2:30 am and I'll only get 4 hours of sleep wooo

Yuuki

Things I'd never thought that I'd associate with Dark Souls: Pepsi.

badp

you are most welcome

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