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11:00 AM
Great to hear!
We lost a friend last month and his family was trying to access his data. Tech illiterate family so no possibility for livecds, but this might help
 
@ardaozkal Will you be watching the Warcraft movie when it releases?
 
Of course
 
Oh hey, I forgot this was a thing that existed
 
I'm wondering whether it'll release on netflix
 
Then I'll like it but the hipster I am I'll throw bad arguments at it
Soo I'll be away for a few weeks playing through Wc1 to wow to find lore mistakes in the movie. Bye
Uuugh how can I run wc1 on W10? Halp
 
11:07 AM
@ardaozkal run the latest patch
Blizzard recently released a Windows 10 patch ... For WC3. Right, not 1
 
Well vm time I guess
 
@ardaozkal dosbox?
 
11:39 AM
thanks@Chippies
 
@ardaozkal np, I thought that was kinda an obvious choice, but I guess it wasn't that obvious :P
 
it was actually
I just forgot that WC1 is this old
(I'd install dosbox once I realized it was this ld)
1994. woah
 
@ardaozkal I believe dosbox can help you run anything that doesn't run on a 64 bit OS
i.e 16 bit software
 
It's always interesting to look at GlassDoor
There's a few big devshops in town, and one of which quite a few folks from our team left for. They seem to be liking them, but a few of the things they've said makes me worried... and a bit more research suggests something: These organizations are all very flat, with little room for advancement
Company some workers left for has about 30-40 devs, but seems like they're all just devs, with only a handful of folks at a more senior level
aka no team leads or project leads or anything like that
Interesting to read reviews on GlassDoor, since there's this trend... folks that have been at a place for a year or two are like "it's great!" but then folks at 3+ years are all "no career advancement, looking for new job/left for new job"
Supposedly one of the devs who left asked about dev positions in an interview, and they laughed and joked at the idea of having more senior dev roles. Just "dev".
 
11:58 AM
@Wipqozn already posted and I guess starred.
nope, it isn't starred. keep it.
 
@ardaozkal I'm keeping it anyways
 
Pls delete your post, I've rolled it into the master pinned post
 
You realize that when folks repost something that's starred and we give'em a hard time we're all joking around, right @ardaozkal? We're not being serious that folks need to not repost things and delete a repost?
 
@Wipqozn yes.
why are you so serious lately?
 
I was making a Tim joke
Or a Lifehacks joke
 
12:02 PM
@Unionhawk ahaha I remember that
 
when you have a sql table called ".*AttributeDefinition", ".*AttributeValue" and columns like "The value of this attiribute if it is an integer", "The value of this attiribute if it is a string", "The value of this attiribute if it is an date", "The type of this attribute"
 
I'd name it "community pin" or smth though
 
that's when you know you're in for a treat
 
those column names gave me cancer
 
Sets fire to everything. Again
 
12:07 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Screams incoherently
\o/ I have an excuse for loud screaming!
 
the best thing is the bridge table between the .*s and the .*AttributeValue's
so you only have to store each attribute once!
EFFICIENCY
 
@Arperum being on fire is a good reason for screaming generally
 
So my alarm decided not to go off this morning
Thankfully I was only a few minutes late
 
consequenceofsound.net/2016/05/… < most accurate review of the angry birds movie.
 
(Apparently I had disabled it and forgot to reset it)
 
12:16 PM
minor spoilers inside
 
@KevinvanderVelden exactly. And I've had the need to scream for a bit.
 
Screaming is a great way to relieve stress
 
1
Q: Is it dangerous to have sentient combat computers on your ships?

kotekzotI know that sentient AI technologies are considered dangerous because they may lead to a revolution of sentient machines, but is this true of sentient combat computers? Will ships equipped with them defect in the event of an AI uprising or perform any other actions detrimental to my empire?

 
Update: I'm now able to drink my coffee black without grimacing
cc @fredley cc @Frank
 
@twobugs I took care to get a house where screaming does not disturb neighbours, so I can scream at any point if I want
 
12:22 PM
@twobugs Excellent.
 
It's still weird to drink something bitter but there's an odd contentness to it
 
Tea is the better choice
 
@twobugs my condolences =[
@Arperum by far
 
I should get a coffee mug so I can annoy @KevinvanderVelden and @KevinvanderVelden
I mean, @KevinvanderVelden and @Arperum
 
I think questions about the movie Pixels should be on topic here. Just to make @fbueckert's head explode.
 
12:27 PM
@Arperum Absolutely
 
@Sterno Already happened.
 
@Unionhawk Let's be dorks and get ThinkGeek coffee mugs
 
No
 
Too late, I already ordered you a custom made one that says "Minecraft questions must all be closed"
 
Modelica uses the keyword "elsewhen"
This makes me sad
@Frank Such questions already exist, or your head already exploded?
 
12:29 PM
Both probably
 
Elsewhen is not a real word and Chrome will back me up on this
 
Adverb: elsewhen ‎(not comparable)
  1. At some other time or times.
  2. 1962, J.L. Austin, How To Do Things With Words, OUP paperback edition, page 64
  3. It may be used to describe my own performances elsewhere and elsewhen […]
 
you just got dictionary'd
 
Wait wiktionary oneboxing is a thing?
 
> when expression then
{ equation ";" }
{ elsewhen expression then
{ equation ";" } }
end when
 
12:31 PM
as the King of Dictionary I claim this victory unto myself
 
Chrome doesn't recognize it and I trust Chrome more than a onebox
 
See also: elsehow, elsewhence, elsewho
 
WHY DO YOU HATE "IF", MODELICA?
 
Using if infringes on Oracle's copyright
4
 
@Sterno "It depends on what your definition of "if" is" - Modelica Clinton
 
12:32 PM
negative star
 
So being against NAFTA seems to be a big thing now. I'm not really sure why
 
ifn't
 
Don't you dare encourage @badp
 
I had some McDonald's for breakfast. My shame is equaled only by my discomfort and regret.
 
@twobugs my grin already is the biggest
 
12:34 PM
@Sterno cc @Wipqozn
I'm really tempted to buy DOOM now and I hope you're happy
 
Not really. I haven't told a single person to buy it. I've told most people not to.
blame @Wipqozn
 
Always blame @Wipqozn
 
You not liking a game is a good endorsement
I guess I'll stop dragging my feet and stream Galactic Hitman today
Which I own, thanks to @Unionhawk (and also technically @Sterno)
 
Oh boy. Can't wait
It's practically like playing DOOM
 
12:43 PM
Hm, Trump has recruited one of the people who helped vet McCain's VP picks in 2008
...Hopefully he ends up with a better VP pick. For his sake.
 
@twobugs lol
@fredley @fredley rn
 
@twobugs I am so hopeful that he picks Palin. I want to see how much of her rambling he'll take interrupting his before he snaps
 
I think she would be a good match for Trump, but I really have to wonder how long the Republican administration is going to go along with Palin
I mean, they both like to just talk about issues - facts be damned!
 
12:49 PM
FIVE MORE DAYS
 
(I'm still of the opinion that a lot of Palin's public persona is carefully constructed)
 
@Sterno rekt in peace
 
12:52 PM
@Sterno A wise choice
Insert War Games quote that I always get wrong
 
Last night I learned that there was a War Game sequel
 
@Sterno We had a character identification question asked already.
 
@Sterno There's a sequel to A Christmas Story
There is a very good reason it's not talked about
 
Hm, so I'm going to need to link my Skype accounts so that I can be on call for support
(I have a work one and a personal one)
 
12:55 PM
clickbait title / 10
totally worth it though
 
Neat. Until something catches on fire today I actually get to do some development work!
 
13 mins ago, by Unionhawk
@fredley @fredley rn
 
@twobugs that's what a work phone is for
 
I miss Troy.
Oh, hey. New season of Powers in 2 weeks.
 
First step: creating mock up UIs using my Surface! \o/
 
12:59 PM
\[T]/
 
@Sterno Is that any good? I assumed it was dumb because it was free with PS+
@Unionhawk [T]/ Praise the Surface [T]/
 
do you even escape
Or are you making a "lol uni had to edit that" joke
If it's the second one, god damn you
 
@twobugs I had really mixed feelings about it. There was a lot of awful and a little bit of good
 
if it's the first, git gud I guess?
 
Also, apparently Supergirl is moving to the CW. I wonder if this will lead to more crossovers
I never got past the first episode of Supergirl
 
1:13 PM
@Unionhawk Let's go with that
 
@twobugs The only winning move is not to play?
 
@Fluttershy Yeah, that one. I always get the first part wrong, though
I always want to say "curious game" but it's "strange game"
 
Oh.
 
@twobugs "A strange game"
@GnomeSlice Thanks Michael :D Local multiplayer only, we're big champions of couch co-op :)
@AshleyNunn
How did they get my name?
oh, my twitter name
der
 
1:22 PM
oh wait, I doubt you were born in 1755
 
Also "Local multiplayer only, so no multiplayer in practice"
 
I'm sure spitefully crushing them was the most sane solution
 
Why don't they just use them
 
@KevinvanderVelden Aren't there tools that allow you to do LAN over WAN?
 
Or maybe give them to engineering schools for training purposes
 
1:24 PM
Yes, we should have the police ride around on them
 
@NateKerkhofs local multiplayer is 2 controllers on 1 pc
 
@GnomeSlice The explanation they give is that they don't want the vehicles to be able to make their way back to NYS.
@KevinvanderVelden Well, that's just dumb as fuck.
 
I miss the days when you could spend 90 seconds reading an article about something rather than 9 minutes watching a video about it.
 
@NateKerkhofs Nope, it's really hard to make actual multiplayer
 
1:26 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Doesn't Steam have built-in provisions for easier multiplayer?
 
@NateKerkhofs for the trivial parts, yes
 
I don't know who Zoella is, and after listening to that video for 2 minutes, then skipping ahead, I don't think this person even ever comes up. What the hell was that link?
 
Not for the parts that require planning while building
 
@Sterno I hate this on traditional news sites in particular. You're not adapting, you're just pissing me off!
 
1:27 PM
Did we ask for this>?
 
@Sterno I linked to the part talking about the NYC destroying dirt bikes.
The Zoella story was at the top of the video.
 
Ah, I didn't realize I'd come in 1m13s in
Man, I hate videos
 
@Sterno Just face the facts, you're an old man who can't handle this newfangled technology.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Not that I care about online multiplayer, but intentionally not including it in a PC game just reeks bad port
 
@Unionhawk Adam Jensen didn't
 
1:30 PM
@Unionhawk you cannot stop science
 
@MBraedley I can handle it. I just don't think it is superior.
 
the science pile keeps growing father and farther
 
@NateKerkhofs that is not at all what is happening here
 
Especially if it's a coop game
 
I do hate that every news site default streams a video to you
 
1:30 PM
I mean, who the hell even has 4 controllers, or room on his couch for 4 people
 
1) This is a game that is only being released on PC
 
Sometimes I'm on a limited connection and I just want the damn article
 
2) They're not dropping features for PC, they don't have a feature at all
 
> Developed by Ghost Town Games for PC/ Consoles
Why won't that go bold?
 
@NateKerkhofs put a space after the /
 
1:32 PM
Hmm I can only find it being released on steam, my bad
 
Hello
 
Still. They don't have the feature on consoles so it's not a bad port
 
Hm Balsamiq is definitely the best option for UI design but I don't have a license
 
You can get a 30 day trial I think @twobugs
 
Don't think that including networking is just a checkbox you do. It requires a lot of decisions ahead of time and basically requires you to program around that feature in your game
 
1:33 PM
Otherwise draw.io is pretty handy for basic
 
I've been reading the transcript, and there were like five different conversations going on, and now I'm just confused.
 
@KevinvanderVelden anyway, if you have a coop game, you massively shoot yourself in the foot when you don't include online multiplayer. You essentially give up 75% of your sales figures (because if you have online multiplayer, everyone has a separate copyà
 
Well I'd like something professional
 
@NateKerkhofs yes
I know
 
75% of your sales...? That doesn't sound accurate...
 
1:34 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Nah, isn't that just a Steam API feature that you just turn on?
 
Hence my:
12 mins ago, by Kevin van der Velden
Also "Local multiplayer only, so no multiplayer in practice"
 
@KevinvanderVelden If that's the decision you make, then all the power to you, but realize that most people don't buy it then
 
@NateKerkhofs I don't know who you are arguing against
 
Single Player Games Still Sell
 
Furthermore, people ask repeatedly for couch co-op games
 
1:34 PM
@Unionhawk It's a coop game though
 
@twobugs if you got a 4 player coop game, you could sell 4 copies per group of friends. If you only have couch coop, you sell 1 copy per group of friend
 
@NateKerkhofs Sales do not work this way
 
Oh well in that case rah rah rah there dum for not cashing in on online coop causing a group of friends to buy 4 packs
 
@twobugs also, if you got online coop with something like matchmaking or server browsing, you also get a large audience of players that have differing interests from their friends
 
I think you're missing the point of this game completely
 
1:36 PM
Everybody knows that matchmade coop is cancer
 
@Unionhawk agreed, especially for coop
 
I haven't played this game but it sounds clearly like the idea is very intimate co-op
 
@twobugs then what is the point of this game?
 
WELL THEN WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING
 
@Unionhawk that it attracts the kind of player that enjoys this game and wouldn't mind matchmaking
@twobugs you mean like Mario Party?
 
1:38 PM
Nobody wouldn't mind matchmaking for coop
 
I'm not sure what this conversation is even about anymore
 
That isn't a thing that people like to do
 
@NateKerkhofs Sure? I haven't played it
The idea seems to be sit down with your friends and yell at them
 
@twobugs other split screen party games then
or just splitscreen games in general
 
No I mean, I haven't played this game.
 
1:39 PM
screencheat
 
I jut think saying it should be online matchmade co-op is missing the point
 
What game are we talking about?
 
Stellaris?
 
Clearly Overwatch
 
@StrixVaria The cooking game I think
 
1:40 PM
Overwatch is the game we should be talking about.
 
Co-operative cooking
@GnomeSlice posted some stuff about it and it looks really cool
 
@twobugs I'm saying that not including online matchmaking in a multiplayer game is a poor design decision that basically means sacrificing income for your vision. Some people think that's the right option, but it's debatable
 
Draw.io looks perfect, this rules
 
We were talking about how single queue is an order of magnitude less fun than double or triple queue
 
@twobugs
woops, @twobugs told you
 
1:42 PM
@NateKerkhofs online matchmaking for a communication game
Right
 
@StrixVaria Five more days!
 
Before you say voice communication nobody on the internet has a microphone and I have no interest in talking to random people on the internet
 
I don't think the exclusion of online matchmaking is a big deal and again I don't think you're really getting the point of this game. It's fine if you disagree
We're both entitled to our opinions
 
Matchmaking will never work in such a game. Not having multiplayer is dumb I'll agree. But it's also expensive and difficult and it's a 2 man studio
 
@Fluttershy Do you know exactly what time it launches. Is it midnight PST?
 
1:43 PM
9 mins ago, by Unionhawk
@KevinvanderVelden Nah, isn't that just a Steam API feature that you just turn on?
 
(Where multiplayer is defined as multiplayer over the internet)
 
@StrixVaria Maybe?
 
@Unionhawk I assumed you were joking
 
I was
I'm never not joking
 
That would put it at 3AM EST, which means I'll just probably do a normal night of sleep, wake up at 6, and then play all day from there.
 
1:44 PM
Including that statement
Take that, robot uprising
 
The only games I ever really want to play multiplayer are the ones where I'm shooting the other people in the face.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Now that I can agree with. I was just saying that not having multi-machine multiplayer for a coop game can and will cost you sales
Whether those lost sales are worth it compared to the development costs is a decision they have the full right to decide on
 
@Sterno I'd drink to that but it's 9:45 and also it's not entirely true for me
 
@Unionhawk Me either, I guess. Sometimes I like to stab them in the face.
I'm excited for more Overwatch but not excited enough to take the day off work.
 
Or punch them
Or rocket them
Or freeze them
 
1:46 PM
Rocket is a subset of shoot
 
I mean, you shoot a rocket but then the rocket hits the person
Does that last bit count as shooting?
Because that's the fun bit
 
@Sterno I was planning on taking a week off work "in the spring" since winter, so when overwatch release date was announced I just aligned the two.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Or ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau them.
 
See, right here public class rocketlauncher : gun
 
@KevinvanderVelden Just say "blow them up"
 
1:47 PM
Unfortunately, that means I have plenty of non-Overwatch stuff to do during my week off, but that should take less time than being at work every day.
@Sterno Does anyone know what Genji says when he ults? It's similar but not exactly that.
 
@StrixVaria 身を捨てても、名利は捨てず (mi wo sutetemo myouri wa sutezu) "Even if I sacrifice my body, I will never sacrifice my honor
 
@StrixVaria That's hanzo's ult
 
(according to reddit)
 
I want to play Diablo 3 so much, but I have to deliver a project by saturday and another big one in 27 days :/
 
@Sterno That's his upon hero select I thought
 
1:48 PM
@Unionhawk Hence my question.
 
Oh
Yeah, probably
 
Draw.io is not making resizing icons easy :(
 
> Genji Shimada shouts "Ryujin no ken wo kurae!" when he uses his ultimate, which roughly translates to "Take my Dragonblade!". Hanzo Shimada shouts "Ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau!" when he uses his ultimate, which roughly translates to "Let the dragon consume my enemies!".
 
however if this goes right, I'll probably get enough money for overwatch
 
@Sterno That sounds right.
 
1:49 PM
@twobugs should be able to input size by pixels if you need to
 
The native language ult callouts fascinates me way more than it deserves to
 
doot do do dooooo!
 
I need to take some ult callouts more seriously.
 
@StrixVaria 4pm PT on May 23rd, according to Jeremy Craig, one of the senior designers.
 
When I hear "It's high noon", I take cover, but when I hear "I've got you in my sights", I don't.
I need to fix that.
 
1:50 PM
@StrixVaria That's because if you have good DPS, you can just turn and mow S76 down 1 second into his ult.
 
@S.Wessels There doesn't seem to be an easy way to preserve aspect ratio, though
 
@StrixVaria I like to listen specifically for "Helden sterben nicht!" and Widow's since those are two really important ones to know
 
@Sterno Yeah, his is more counterplay-able than McCree's, but I've still died more times than I needed to.
@Unionhawk Oh, I don't even know what Widow says.
I never even thought to listen for that one, even though that makes tons of sense now that you've mentioned it.
 
@StrixVaria Something in French, it's quieter than like, Hanzo's
 
The thing for Soldier is that mowing him down is only an option if he ults at a silly time
 
1:51 PM
I find the main thing that helps me as S76 is that I have good mobility to flank for favorable one-on-ones, and if I'm with the rest of my team, I'm usually a low priority target
 
He can take people out while flanking easily using his alt, and that's the point
I was definitely feeling the rocket cooldown like you mentioned @Sterno
 
Ulting to take down one person usually is a waste
 
@twobugs if you go to the arrange tab on the right when you select an object you can click contain proportions
 
@Sterno This is true as pretty much every character.
 
Pro tip: S76's rocket auto-hits just like his pulse rifle when ulting, so make sure rocket is ready before popping your ult
 
1:53 PM
@Sterno I didn't know that, thanks.
 
> Personne n'échappe à mon regard.
is apparently it
 
@Sterno not quite, it doesn't lead the target so it's easy to dodge
 
@Unionhawk I'll have to listen for that.
 
I need to do some experimentation to find out if you can land head shots as S76 when ulting and if so, how to make it more likely
 
Like I said, it's quieter than most
But still audible across the map
 
1:53 PM
@S.Wessels Didn't seem to do anything when I tried. I resized an icon and it was the same as before
 
@Sterno you can't
You will always hit the torso
 
I need to also figure out how to tell the difference between friendly/hostile McCree/S76 ults, and probably some others.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Disappointing
 
@Sterno doubling the damage of that ult? No thanks
 
@StrixVaria McCree is always "It's high noon" for hostile and only hostile. If you hear anything else, it's friendly. 76 is always "I've got you in my sights" for hostile and only hostile.
 
1:55 PM
I think Soldier actually has a decent ult
 
Technically they use those for self, but hopefully you should know when you used your own ult
 
@Unionhawk Oh, ok. So I said the right lines before, I just need to watch out for them.
@Unionhawk I think this is what was throwing me off.
 
Yeah, they usually use the hostile callout for self
With the exception of Widow who uses the friendly callout for herself
And also Mercy uses "heroes never die" versus the german version
 
One that I really hate hearing, like you mentioned, is "Helden sterben nicht!" because that generally means all my recent work has just been undone.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Disappointing that if I otherwise would have had a headshot, the ult turns it into a body shot.
 
1:56 PM
I think that's why those are harder to listen for actually
 
The Mercy one is easy for me but probably because I know German.
 
The callouts being different for friendly and enemy is great
I actually hadn't realized Mercy's was in German for hostile callout
 
@StrixVaria I need to get better at holding onto my revives. I'll probably try damage boosting a lot more when I have ult so I can bring everyone back at full
@twobugs Mhmm
 
I have been repurpled!
 
(I'm not fluent in German, but I know enough)
 
1:58 PM
@Unionhawk Yeah, this is something I thought to try only after the game was unavailable as well.
 
@StrixVaria I watched someone on mercy who said that was their typical strat, and I was like "that makes a ton of sense"
Since you can build tons of ult healing tanks
 
I'm of two minds for Mercy ults. On one had you can built ult quickly enough that I think ulting frequently isn't terrible and can keep pressure up. But being able to counter revive like 5 people after a Junkrat ult is game changing
 
> NOTE: Activating Tactical Visor reloads your ammo.
 
If your tanks are taking tons of damage and you sit in their pocket for like, 10 seconds, you've got it back
 
I did not know that.
 
1:59 PM
Oh that's cool
 
@Sterno This changes everything
 
@twobugs are you using an image for the button?
 
@Sterno I had an idea this was the case but I wasn't sure.
 
I guess I was wrong about the helix rockets locking on. I could have sworn they did but can't find anything backing that up
 
No, but I realized it's only for manual resizing not pixel height/width resizing like I was hoping
 

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