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4:06 PM
@KitFox It went well. Booty!
 
Nice.
 
Wow that was a quick change :O
 
@Matt! I didn't notice you had left.
 
magic, huh!
 
I have a love hate relationship with this user. She is one of my best, but so rarely follows my directions.
And within fifteen minutes, despite the big red notice, a user logged in and broke the site.
 
4:08 PM
how is she the best if she doesn't do what she's meant to?
 
She figures things out. Just in this case, I asked her to include the keys for the schools (the numbers next to them on the list) when she emailed me back, because it would make my job easier. She didn't.
I feel like putting up a notice to that one user: [User name here], YOU ARE NOT A TEACHER LEADER!
Frigging people. I told them in the last meeting that it didn't matter if I put up a notice. Nobody ever thinks it applies to them.
 
is a 'teacher leader' a principal?
 
Or I could email her directly and say "You aren't a teacher leader. The notice where it says "Teacher Leaders Only"? That means NOT YOU. Quit breaking stuff!"
@cyberskull No.
I updated the message.
hee hee
 
Is hyphenating thank you acceptable?
 
> If you are not a teacher leader, please do not log in until you have heard from your teacher leader.
In bold and blinking marquee.
 
4:16 PM
@KitFox That's great!
 
@KitFox lol
 
@cyberskull You could, most don't.
Looks funny.
@MattЭллен OK, I lied about the last part.
 
I did bold it though. So Carol knows that it's her fault.
 
4:18 PM
what's the difference between a principal and a head master?
 
Head masters are British.
 
The first is cisatlantic, the second transatlantic.
 
That's why we have deputy heads
 
So does the sheriff.
 
i shot the sheriff
 
4:20 PM
time to go again. BBL
 
Did you hear the one about the head master who married his opposite?
 
later
 
She was the tail mistress.
 
@MattЭллен Why do you do this to me?
 
@KitFox have you heard from this person?
 
4:21 PM
@MattЭллен You’re having barbecued lamb for supper?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 thinks
Oh, the bicyclist. Let's talk privately.
 
Shall I send you an invite?
 
One moment.
Done.
 
4:52 PM
@cyberskull By the way, I enjoy troll-herding with you.
 
@Cerberus We make a great team ;-)
 
Yay!
 
I should change my name back...
...maybe next month.
 
Back to skullpatrol?
 
yep
on patrol for trolls
 
4:56 PM
You know you can change it on another site and then sync your account?
 
Patroll?
Trollpa?
 
Or you could beg a mod to change it for you.
Although they would probably say no.
 
Maybe I'll get used to this "cyber" thing :-)
Its so 21st century...
...but if the raiders keep winning i'll have to change back for sure :D
 
Cyber...
Silly, but fun in an ironic way.
 
Here is the definition I made.
 
5:03 PM
Okay...
Is that what it really means? You didn't invent it?
 
For real.
 
OK.
 
Americas most hated team
 
Skullpants
TIL
 
skullFox
skull-Kit
:D
 
5:07 PM
I'm pretty sure America's most hated team is the Yankees.
 
They win too much to be hated.
 
hiss
 
everybody loves a winner baby that's no lie
 
suddenly wants to play GTA
 
What does "GTA" stand for?
 
5:12 PM
Grand Theft Auto
 
thanks
 
5:45 PM
People around the world spent $ 591 million on the game on the very day it was launched.
That's 13 to 14 million sales.
 
they've surpassed $1B sales now
in fucking sane
 
Well, hardly surprising, if you've ever played them.
And Four was a big disappointment.
So fans have been jonesing.
 
I wish I could release a product that makes $1B in a day
 
And this one is available for download through the PS3 store, so availability isn't a problem.
What was I doing?
 
6:03 PM
jumps up and down I need attention!
 
is staring fixedly at @KitFox
better?
 
no. sulks
 
Ok Twink I'll give you some attention pal :D
 
whatever, buddy.
Probably NSFW
 
IIIII ain't got nooo body...
 
6:07 PM
Maybe not the one...
 
3 hours ago, by cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
butters self
 
has the butter melted, yet?
 
It's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes.
Something is afoot, but my friend isn't telling.
wrt my project lead...
 
The door is ajar.
 
Anonymous
6:15 PM
What is correct here?
" How many stages _something_ **has/have** ? "
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 was that a Bill Hicks reference?
 
@terdon is it followed by and my foot is a (something)?
 
@Simon_eQ how many stages does something have
Nope, hang on
 
Anonymous
Yea, I forgot to mention does
 
Anonymous
So, the question is "How many stages does something ...? " have/has
 
6:18 PM
@Simon_eQ have
 
have.
@terdon it wasn't.
 
Anonymous
Oh, thanks! But if the something in question is singular, then it seems like has is appropriate isn't it?
 
Anonymous
I must be missing something
 
Anonymous
Arghh, sorry for my typos. They follow me everywhere.
 
@Simon_eQ "how many stages does the process have?"
"The process has 12 stages"
 
6:21 PM
How many stages does each process have? Each process has 12 stages.
 
Anonymous
How many stages does a traditional tea-making ____ ?
 
have
but don't say that
add a ceremony or something
 
Anonymous
Yea, I forgot 'process'
 
Anonymous
I am the worst person to be in this room.
 
Anonymous
I was born to be grammatically-incorrect all the time.
 
6:24 PM
Why? You came and asked, that's fine
 
Anonymous
I think it was a curse, but I can't tell
 
Anonymous
thanks all
 
6:36 PM
Ungrammatical, not "grammatically incorrect".
 
why?
 
Because I said so.
 
I was going to say that other thing, but then I couldn't remember if you were the one who told me.
 
6:37 PM
And if you weren't, you would have thought I was being an ass.
 
well, excuuuuuuse me :-)
 
Question is, how long should I wait for the project lead to get around to telling me that he is leaving for another position? I wanted to leave early today. I have shit to do.
 
@KitFox we say politically incorrect
 
We say "unabashed" not abashedly incorrect.
 
5 mins ago, by cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Ugh.
 
6:43 PM
 
"Of the votes cast, 1,355 were up-votes and 77 were down-votes" and 3 are cast today. Mr Downvoter, you know, I know you. — Atsuto Nagatomo 8 mins ago
"Of the votes cast, 89 were up-votes and 18 were down-votes" and 7 are cast today. Mr Downvoter 2, you know, I know you. — Atsuto Nagatomo 1 min ago
This guy is a detective.
 
I downvoted.
He's gonna come after me.
 
And he really takes it personally:
But if ELU deals with academic study of English, why is my macaronic question still at zero points? And why don't people appreciate my last question about wegotism? I think these questions are academic in their essence. — Atsuto Nagatomo yesterday
 
Speaking of coming after one. @terdon: I remember a question that was, like, a verbatim copy of yours. I think it was tchrist's. The result was that said banned spammer started posting tchrist's private info as questions, several times per hour, under a new account each time. We barely could keep up deleting them.
So there you have a mod answer.
As far as I'm concerned, sleeping dogs should not be awoken.
 
@RegDwighт fair enough, I now know what's going on and am satisfied that the reaction is the correct one
 
6:48 PM
Well I wouldn't go so far as to claim it's the correct one. It's the best one we've got.
 
I was just thinking of having a meta signpost so that new users can understand what's going on and that it is more than a personal vendetta
 
We tried other things. We tried everything.
 
correct==I agree with it. Obviously! :)
 
We tried leaving him completely in peace, too. Even after his suspension.
 
By the way, re my 'aggressive' comment. (:11311927 )
hmm, that didn't work
@RegDwighт this one
 
6:49 PM
The line has to begin with the number.
 
have to tried inviting him to this chat?
 
I know that ELU is not aggressive, I was just pointing out that it seemed to be when I first joined. I had enough of an understanding of SE in general to go and search meta and figure out what's what but it can be offputting to a new user.
Personally, I like pedant wars.
3
 
Who now? Nortonn? He's been to chat a couple times. Thursagen, too.
 
Later, yo.
 
Winning them anyway :)
 
6:50 PM
I have personally chatted with all kinds of people.
@terdon well again, I'm not even saying we're not aggressive. I am very much saying that we are. I am saying we must be. (To an extent, of course, but that's implied.)
 
Agreed. I'm all for it.
 
We can be very nice, too. Don't forget how last Christmas we had a couple weeks where nobody voted to close or downvoted stuff. Everyone was asked to edit, comment, answer instead.
 
We really do need to improve the help pages though.
Make the scope clearer, and I know we can be nice, that's why I hang out here!
I've been mulling over a meta question I could post with some suggestions. Is changing the wording of the site's banner an option?
 
I don't have too high hopes for help pages. The only people who read help pages are the people who wouldn't shit on your lawn anyway. The people who shit on your lawn wouldn't read help pages if you gave them a hundred dollars.
That's just how the Internet works.
 
True, I'm thinking of decent users who would be better off on ELL, that kind of thing
The close reasons for example are pretty generic SE stuff, it would be nice to have some more specific text we can at least refer users to.
 
6:54 PM
Same with dupes, really.
Oct 11 '12 at 18:56, by RegDwighт
@Cerberus everyone can see the FAQ tab by going to the FAQ tab. But again, the type of people who need to see the FAQ tab are precisely the people who never look at FAQ tabs.
 
Actually, the FAQ is a perfect example, where do I see that link as a new user who comes to post a question?
 
You think people don't search the site before posting? Hell yes they do. It's just that those who searched, and found their answer, don't post dupes. The ones who do wouldn't search anyway, so pointing out to them "you should have searched" is a waste of your life time.
 
You have to go to meta => click Questions => click Frequent
 
@terdon that's been renamed, quite recently in fact.
 
Oh? I just checked 3 secs ago
 
6:56 PM
We used to have an FAQ link at the top, and an FAQ tab under Questions. That was confusing. So the former is now Help, and the latter Frequent.
@terdon yeah I mean into Frequent, not from Frequent.
 
OK, but perhaps having a ling to FAQ at the top next to help would be umm, a help?
 
Well again, having the sequence of letters F, A, Q anywhere on the site is confusing.
 
I basically compare my experience dealing with off topic questions here and at superuser. On SU I can usually point the user directly to the relevant close reason. It is harder to do here.
 
Because typically on the Internet it means help about the site itself, but this site itself in turn happens to be about questions, so it has that other sort of FAQs, too.
 
True. Perhaps simply adding something to the effect that basic usage queries such as 'Should I say I been or I went' are off topic here to the help pages?
 
7:00 PM
@terdon just use help/on-topic
 
Yes, that's where I'd like to see something explaining the site's academic/language geek leaning more clearly.
 
@RegDwighт Like me.
 
To be honest I am just thinking out loud, I'll take the time and formulate my suggestions clearly and submit to meta at some point. That way I won't bug you :)
 
@terdon there are all kinds of problems with that. First, "I been" actually can be a legitimate grammatical construction in a number of dialects and registers. Second, we do have that disclaimer that this site is for linguists (and serious enthusiasts, whatever that is). Thirdly, the OP is typically the last one to know if a question is basic. So he'll post anyway.
It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg.
For some questions you can only know they're off-topic after posting them. Not just here, on other sites, too.
Other questions still only become off-topic after you start seeing the kind of answers trickling in. Again, that happens on all sites.
 
All true. Need to think about this. I just think there is room for improvement (which should not be taken as a criticism, I really really love this site).
I'll try and come up with something constructive and post it on meta.
 
7:04 PM
Yeah there's room for improvement alright. It's sort of rocket surgery at certain points, though.
 
@terdon Wow.
@RegDwighт And rocket puppery.
 
What is this rocket surgery idiom? I've seen it a few times now. a mix of rocket science and brain surgery?
 
VRRRROOOOM!
 
I am not familiar with the concept of puppery.
 
@Cerberus wow?
 
7:05 PM
@terdon precisely right.
 
Oh, I actually read it as rocket science, didn't even catch the surgery part. But I'm sure you're right.
 
This something you guys cooked up or is it common in some dialect or other?
 
@terdon You really love the site!
 
Yup, with sugar on top :)
 
@terdon the dialect is called "English"
 
7:06 PM
@terdon this is something the Internet cooked up. Or actually, I dunno. Could had been cooked up in the sixties.
 
I suspect Reg made it up.
 
I've gotten some wonderful answers here.
 
Cooked up with space cake?
 
You're not helping, Cerb.
 
OK, hadn't come across it before.
Them degenerate dutchmen...
 
7:06 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 A strange, unpredictable tongue.
 
@terdon 12 milion hits on Schmoogle.
 
Hey, don't insult Reg, he's German.
Ish.
 
"A strange, unpredictable tongue" would make a good name for a rock album.
 
I was talking to you :)
 
7:07 PM
Or Russian.
 
Anyway guys. I must resume the BB marathon.
 
Pah!
 
Howdy all!
 
BB?
 
Still in season 1?
 
7:07 PM
Breaking Bad?
 
The mention of Russian shall be my convenient ticket outta here.
 
No that's me that's in Season 1
 
Hi Brad!
Breaking Bad.
 
@Cerberus not still, again. But still, yes. Two episodes left.
 
Have fun :)
 
7:08 PM
Reg recommenced at season 1.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 well I'm in Season 1, too. It's just that I'm there for the fourth time.
 
Or is it reccommenced?
Nah, it's French, not Latin.
 
I am not here, you funny.
 
cue Mr Shiny
 
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Q: Ungrammatical or Grammatically Incorrect

cyberskullWhich of "ungrammatical" or "grammatically incorrect" is prefered and why?

 
7:08 PM
@Cerberus oh. right. "It's English, not French!"
 
Darn, it looks like I missed good gossip.
 
And everyone shut up as soon as you arrived (must have been talking about you :)
 
i think it was my question
 
Heh!
 
[on hold] because this question is a duplicate of another question already asked. — Atsuto Nagatomo 3 hours ago
@AtsutoNagatomo if this is a duplicate either vote to close if you have the rep or flag as a duplicate. If you leave a comment, please include the link to the duplicate so others (and the OP) can find it. — terdon 2 hours ago
@terdon, on hold. — Atsuto Nagatomo 1 hour ago
Okay, this guy really is, um. Onto something.
That's the detective from previously.
 
7:18 PM
Yeah...
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ding!
 
He seems kinda angry.
Which is too bad, some of his stuff has been interesting.
 
He may not understand that on hold = euphemism for closed.
But I must leave.
Bai!
 
This guy is patently funny, sorry. I have to laugh out loud at many of his comments.
I laughed.
 
Heh.
 
7:20 PM
It's funny because it's true.
BTW, I'm not sure muhammad is getting the message.
 
Yeah.
 
Heh, it's a little snarky, but I almost loled at work.
 
poof
 
Every single question of his gets closed or migrated. Every single one. For months now.
 
That's impressive.
 
7:22 PM
And recently he posted an edit as an answer.
That caused quite some headscratching here. I'm losing hair.
So I just decided he misclicked.
But we'll see.
 
Breaking Bed.
 
Heh.
 
Baking Bread.
 
When I was in first grade, one of my friends called me Bread.
One of my college girlfriends too.
 
7:24 PM
@RegDwighт yes, please.
 
Interesting. The implication is, it only happens once. And then the people mysteriously disappear...
 
Her roommate apparently couldn't understand me on the phone and left a message that “bread called” with a little drawing of a loaf
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 NP. Hold on.
Sep 14 at 23:09, by RegDwighт
user image
 
Maybe it was David Gates!
@RegDwighт I'll take the middle one.
 
7:25 PM
Everyone says that.
Pull a number.
 
I like body hair.
 
I like mohair.
 
I like long hair.
 
I like big butts and I cannot lie.
 
From Elton John to Sir Mix-A-Lot. Not bad.
 
7:27 PM
Sir Elton John, no?
 
curtsies
I forget what his letters are.
CBE?
 
@BraddSzonye Sir Reginald Kenneth Dwight, Commander of the Excellent Order of the British Empire.
 
Sir Elton Hercules John CBE
Ah damn, beat me to it.
 
Hercules was a strange song.
 
Lunch time! Back in a few.
 
7:28 PM
Then again, it's on Honky Chateau, so.
And yeah. I think now I'm off to resume the BBathon.
 
@Cerberus Apparently that was the goal-state.
 
He feels strangled by our haunted social scene.
 
On drugs:
@RegDwight, but following the lines of Cerberus' answer, one concludes that 'salt' and 'sodiun chloride" are not the same thing, on hold. — Atsuto Nagatomo 25 secs ago
also wonders whether we haven’t got ourselves three Cerberus now, or just one trinitarian demigod
 
Ninja! Ninja!
 
7:36 PM
Or stopper.
 
Cork!
Has Cork ever stopped Bath from anything?
 
> 1881 Syd. Soc. Lex. I,Agrammatismus, inability to form a grammatical sentence.
People are sure getting lazy if they can’t even be arsed to spell out aggrammatissimus anymore.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 maybe if Cork fell on Bath...
 
Probably Missourans.
 
@MattЭллен hmm.
 
user87637
7:47 PM
The Formula One Race is on here now.
 
Are you going to watch?
 
I don't know who is Mr Downvoter 3, but I will find them and others, too! — Atsuto Nagatomo 1 hour ago
 
8:06 PM
And in the darkness bind them.
 
He really is daught.
 
waits for Mr. Prepositions to wake up
 
what is the most used preposition?
answer?
"to"
 
8:25 PM
@tchrist how are the $variables?
 
There's knights errant and pedants arrant, and sometimes the latter mistake themselves for the former.
 
@MετάEd I like your bird.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Thank you! Tomorrow is world peace day.
 
@MετάEd I was just looking that up in your profile.
 
wanna guess what the second most used preposition is?
according to the oed
 
8:34 PM
of
 
bingo
quick too
 
well, it was my guess for number 1
 
:-)
i like oed trivia
 
8:51 PM
I like not being sick, but we don't always get what we want.
sulks into cup of coffee like it has the answers to all sinus headaches
 
awww
Pat's @aedia's mane
 
Awwh thanks.
That's soothing.
 
There's a frank discussion in writer's chat that might cheer you up :D

 The Overlook Hotel

General discussion for writing.stackexchange.com. Writing exer...
and by frank, I mean that Kit's deciding what to wear, @aediaλ
 
@MattЭллен Bob's @KitFox's uncle.
 
I see...
 
8:56 PM
giggles
 
@MετάEd World peace? Can't they think of something practical? Like World Have a Snack in the Afternoon Day? I think that would go a long way to solving the Peace/Hunger/Subtle Racism/Global Warming/Possible but Unlikely Alien Invasion problems one step.
 

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