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12:15 AM
> "I'm going to see the folks I dig
I'll even kill a Sunset pig"
 
@CowperKettle Once again, it all comes down to diet and exercise.
 
@M.A.R. It's rially cheap
 
@Robusto Almost nobody in our office culture is vigorously active four to eight hours a day.
 
@CowperKettle That pig is a different beast.
Kill or kiss?
 
@tchrist I don't think it's necessarily vigorous exercise that is needed, but I take your point. My worst period, healthwise, was when I was sedentary due to a knee injury, and I decided to put my energy into coding. I think I mentioned the outcome of that experiment.
 
12:38 AM
@Robusto Curiously, their diet is much higher in carbs than the typical American one.
They also have unusually problems with intestinal worms. Maybe that's the cure.
 
@alphabet I suspect that's to keep them going while putting in that 4-7 hours of exercise. I couldn't ride my bike for three or four hours at a time without carbs.
 
They also have high fertility rates. Worms and babies, the keys to heart health.
 
Daily Sequence Octordle #823
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Of course, only a low-NMF diet can prevent AIDS.
 
@alphabet NMF?
 
12:47 AM
@Robusto As I've explained, an NMF, or Non-Milk Food, is a food that is not 100% whole cow's milk.
Only a strict no-NMF diet can cure all diseases.
 
@alphabet Having babies young is for women a way to lower the chances of breast and other cancers.
Feb 18, 2021 at 3:26, by Robusto
Yeah, who has time to read all your shit?
 
@Robusto Maybe R Kelly was just trying to reduce cancer rates.
 
@alphabet I'm sure that was his motivation.
 
"U on prep?" "Kinda."
(I will not be explaining that joke.)
 
> “MDMA enhances empathy-like behaviors in mice via serotonin release in the nucleus accumbens.”
I wish I were an MDMouse,
Empathic, small, and gray,
With lots of serotonin stuff,
Under my red beret
 
1:02 AM
@CowperKettle Chorus: Under my red beret, sport, under my red beret / That is where I sleep and think and idle my life away.
 
Feel free to use the chorus.
 
I should go on another milk cleanse this weekend.
Longest I've gone thus far is three days.
In my defense, I have mental problems.
(I am kidding. I won't be doing that again.)
 
1:12 AM
@alphabet is that like kashering your home for Passover, but you're trying to clean out all the milk instead?
 
whoa, didn't know there was AI song generation yet
 
@alphabet what are they gonna come for next, bad puns?
 
@Mitch Opposite, of course. A juice cleanse means consuming only juice; hence a milk cleanse means consuming only milk.
 
Oh... listens to earpiece ... Oh I'm hearing that no one would stoop so low.
 
But yes, the all-milk diet is Kosher, Halal, vegetarian, and gluten-free.
 
1:14 AM
@alphabet or a third way is to clean everything in your house -with- milk.
Your choice
 
I mean, I've already replaced my body wash with a tub of whipped butter.
 
@alphabet slams on mute button
Is the thumbs up emoji really that problematic?
 
@Mitch If it's bad puns they want, then they'll need to look no further than this chat.
 
@Mitch Empties out bottle of all-purpose cleaner, refills it with milk
 
@CowperKettle they literally don't do anything other than the Paleo diet
@alphabet Thank you!
@jlliagre why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?
That's probably a problematic thing to say about pigs. Kind of specialist.
@CowperKettle To be fair, they all die of parasites or murder or hunger by the age of thirty.
 
1:26 AM
@Mitch So you can slaughter it, duh.
(Yes, that was a joke.)
 
A traveling salesman knocked on a farmhouse door and was invited in. He was shocked to find a pig in the kitchen as the family were sitting down to dinner. Even more shocking was the fact that the pig had a trotter (front leg) missing, though it was replaced by a wooden prosthesis.
"There's gotta be a story behind that pig," the salesman said.
"Oh, yes, indeed there is," said the farmer. "Once when little Jimmy here was two he fell into the creek. Horace—that's our pig's name—rushed in and pulled him out, then ran to the house and grunted and squealed until we went to see what was all the c
 
"Why buy the cow when you can mail-order one for cheap?"
 
2:33 AM
@Mitch @Araucaria-Him Your friend is unhappy. But I can't see what he still wants to know.
the autistic rigidity (closure of this Q) is UNIVERSAL at Stack exchange. — S K 46 mins ago
Could you please explain exactly what question remains unanswered? The one in your title clearly has been answered (yes, both strong and weak forms have always existed in Modern English), and anything else is just a survey question ("Do Americans feels....?"), which we don't do. — tchrist ♦ 5 mins ago
 
2:55 AM
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@tchrist Flagged that comment, since it contains no actual substantive point about why the closure was wrong, and instead is just insulting and offensive.
(Not that tchrist can see my messages.)
 
@alphabet yeah, that sounded mean.
 
3:19 AM
@Mitch In Britain they pronounce it as "min."
 
3:44 AM
Word of the day: productionize. According to Wiktionary: "To put into production; to manufacture; to turn a prototype into a mass production item."
An odd case of a verb (produce) becoming a noun (production) becoming a verb again (productionize).
Wikipedia has an article on productionization--meaning this has turned back into a noun again, with the suffix -tion occurring twice.
I assume productionizationize will come along eventually.
 
4:03 AM
> To access the full benefits of literature, you have to share it out loud.
> Compared with reading silently, the hippocampus is more active while reading aloud, which might help explain why the latter is such an effective memory tool. In a small 2012 study, students who studied a word list remembered 90 percent of the words they’d read aloud immediately afterward, compared with 71 percent of those they’d read silently. (One week later, participants remembered 59 percent of the spoken words and 48 percent of the words read silently.)
 
^ Try reading out math expressions - good luck!
 
@DannyuNDos If you can't say it, you can't think it.
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10:22 AM
Korean idiom of the day: Either all heads or all tails ― means the situation is very extreme.
 
10:35 AM
@tchrist @Mitch WELL, it seems to me that Herrison's answer on the linked to question is lacking somewhat because it doesn't ever actually point out that - at least as far as the UK situation goes - been is a strong form, and bin (strong or) weak one, which is pretty basic.
Perhaps it would be better to reverse the direction of the dupe or merge the questions. I think there are still useful additional answers people might give, or useful additional bits. Costillo's contribution isn't bad. And it could usefully be pointed out that /bi:n/ is the suppletive past participle of go when a person has returned from wherever they went to, and when used in that way is very often, if not usually, stressed. I'm sure there's other bits and bobs to be said too.
But I suppose we're unlikely to find out unless the question gets reopened!
 
 
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12:55 PM
@Robusto I can second that as a language teacher. Students nearly always remember words they've "drilled", but only a small proportion of words they've just had explained or looked up etc.
 
@Araucaria-Him Yes. But here's the thing. When I was in college I played Prospero in a school production of The Tempest. To this day I remember the other characters' lines better than I do my own. I mean, I memorized all those lines (a prodigious task) and certainly spoke them out loud, but why do I remember everyone else's lines and little of my own?
 
@Robusto Good question. Is it the panic inducing fear of getting lost and missing your cue? Or maybe those other lines had more meaning as they built the context. Or maybe your brain associates your lines with trauma inducing stress and has now blocked them out when they're no longer needed? If only we could find out ... Think what we could do with that info!
 
1:14 PM
@Araucaria-Him There definitely was stress in the dressing room, but once I got into my lines on stage it went away. Kind of like playing music, which always comes back like an old friend once you're actually performing. I mainly interacted with Ariel and Miranda, and theirs are the lines I remember best.
 
2:12 PM
Wordle 1,043 4/6

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So why implacable but not placable? (NYT Spelling Bee refuses the latter.)
 
#WhenTaken #60 (27.04.2024)

I scored 829/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 355 km - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 334 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 189 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 1184 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 165 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 152 km - 🗓️ 5 yrs - ⚡ 189 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 9667 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 101 / 200

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The last one wrecked me. :(
In retrospect, there is a clue, but... sheesh.
 
#WhenTaken #60 (27.04.2024)

I scored 839/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 335 km - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 1605 km - 🗓️ 5 yrs - ⚡ 153 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 5 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 3 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 9665 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 101 / 200

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@XanderHenderson Got lucky in the middle. I overvalued a clue in #1. And yeah, that last one did have a clue that I totally ignored.
#2 had a red herring clue as well.
Actually, I remembered #3 from articles I saw.
But still lucky.
 
2:37 PM
@Robusto reading aloud is just uneconomical. Yes, I prefer to remember 70 percent of a 500-page long textbook for an exam than 80 percent of 1/10th of it.
 
@M.A.R. I think the point is that if you discuss the salient details of the textbook you will fare better with memorization.
 
@CowperKettle you're just rubling it in my face
 
@Robusto inorite?
 
@Robusto maybe the instructors should cut the crap and tell us the important stuff to learn and leave out the minutiae
 
@M.A.R. I wouldn't want to hang from a rope until they do that.
But in a certain sense, it's all minutiae, innit?
 
2:49 PM
Well, when I look back, the important stuff (in a community pharmacy, hospital pharmacy, pharma industry, and regulatory positions) has been disappointingly sporadic. There's a lot of unnecessary crap. There's just too much room for optimization.
So I'm using the phrase generously; it's even worse if you don't want to stay in academia, or find hospitals or drug manufacturers to work for
 
@M.A.R. That's really the issue. In my science classes, taking notes, they doled out the minutiae as if it were all a bunch of holy relics. And I'd find myself trying to take down everything. Especially courses like cell biology. So I couldn't see the forest for the trees.
 
@Robusto right? Of the couple dozen profs I've had in couple dozen courses, only a handful managed to communicate what really mattered and what was the bonus stuff.
They were all people who had truly gained an understanding of the topic themselves, rather than trying to just parrot some phrases from some textbook or worse, reading monotonously 200 slides in a .ppt (not pptx!) file
 
To show you how long ago that was, they didn't even know the purpose of Golgi bodies.
 
3:09 PM
Daily Octordle #824
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@Robusto whoa, and the world was all in black and white still
 
@M.A.R. Oh yeah. My high school's graduation pictures were definitely B&W.
Daily Sequence Octordle #824
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4:30 PM
Word of the day: mischievous. Dictionaries still insist that the more common (or even the only) pronunciation is /-vəs/, but (from a cursory examination on YouGlish) the /-viəs/ pronunciation is clearly more common even in very formal contexts, and even the spelling with "-vious" is fairly widespread.
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Cambridge, OxfordLD, and Dictionary.com all only list the less common pronunciation.
Merriam-Webster calls the pronunciation used by most native speakers "nonstandard."
 
4:54 PM
I've just noticed that they've been working hard on updating the "abstract diaphonemes’" descriptions on the IPA-for-English page at Wikipedia. It's more "correct" now but the notes, exceptions, contingencies, caveats, and provisos are now so manifold that it may not be penetrable to non-specialists anymore.
 
5:05 PM
I like their IPA chart for English dialects but I have some doubts about its reliability; I'm sure somewhere there's a book by an expert with a similar table that's higher quality.
 
5:18 PM
@alphabet A common mistake does not cease to be a mistake.
Until it does.
But that is rare and can be resisted, it is not some natural phaenomenon.
 
#WhenTaken #60 (27.04.2024)

I scored 652/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 363 km - 🗓️ 9 yrs - ⚡ 175 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 1563 km - 🗓️ 20 yrs - ⚡ 114 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 17707 km - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 96 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 164 km - 🗓️ 10 yrs - ⚡ 178 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 10771 km - 🗓️ 8 yrs - ⚡ 89 / 200

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Daily Octordle #824
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5:37 PM
#WhenTaken #60 (27.04.2024)

I scored 663/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 365 km - 🗓️ 13 yrs - ⚡ 164 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 6913 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 109 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 1129 km - 🗓️ 16 yrs - ⚡ 134 / 200
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5️⃣ 📍 1 km - 🗓️ 28 yrs - ⚡ 123 / 200

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Well, I got one place right.
 
@tchrist they say that by doing so you've created an ivory tower 🗼
 
@Cerberus I knew you'll be the one to find it. When I saw the correct answer, I was upset to have confused the language of one sign with another one.
 
@user70432 At least they're starting to distinguish strong vowels from weak vowels on that page. And just in time: we have another question from an L2 speaker who misunderstands reduced vowels again, thinking there is a single "correct" answer in "formal" English to how much reduction occurs.
 
@jlliagre Well I didn't know the correct language either, but I looked at the background! What was that big thing? Without it, I would have guessed a very different place (and language).
 
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Q: Correct Choice of First Vowel in Words Such as "Regret" and "Return"

HannahIs it acceptable in formal American English to pronounce the first vowel in "regret", "realize", and "return" as an open-mid front unrounded vowel as opposed to a close front unrounded vowel? Also, how were these words pronounced in Middle English?

 
5:45 PM
@Cerberus Which pronunciation is the mistaken one? The /-vəs/ one matches the more common spelling, but there are plenty of English words where correct spelling and correct pronunciation diverge.
 
But not this word.
 
Yes, it applies to this word for a majority of speakers of standard dialects.
 
Again that fallacy...
 
@Cerberus Koffiekamer didn't ring a bell to you?
 
@jlliagre Well, it could be one of two languages.
I didn't know the word as such.
 
5:48 PM
What's the reason for calling this pronunciation a mistake?
By the same logic, should we pronounce "rendezvous" with a /-vəs/?
 
ron-des-VOOS
 
@Cerberus Ah, so I wasn't that wrong. I identified it as the other language but couldn't guess a place looking like a British one but where that other language would also be used.
 
Alternatively, ron-DAYS-voos.
 
@XanderHenderson Or, pour frimer: /ʁɑ̃.de.vu/
 
@XanderHenderson What's the S on the end?
Like in vamoose? :)
 
5:53 PM
@jlliagre not if'n yet speakin' proper American!
 
Or like in ooze?
Pretty sure it's silent.
 
@tchrist it is voiced.
 
Unless plural.
 
@XanderHenderson I wrote pour frimer.
 
@XanderHenderson Ah, the plural. Yes, it is then.
 
5:54 PM
Like in ooze.
 
Makes popcorn 🍿🍿🍿
 
I have the same problem with Camus on a camel. One moose, two mooze.
 
mices?
 
@tchrist the great French author, KAY-mooze?
 
@XanderHenderson Who she?
 
5:56 PM
::runs::
 
@tchrist He. He wrote the Stranger.
 
Camooze buckle.
 
Fred KAY-mooze.
 
Ça n’amuse pas la bouche.
 
@alphabet Both tradition and rules, and the rules are far more complex than that.
@jlliagre Did you think about the big thing in the background?
 
6:02 PM
@Cerberus Yes, and one of the rules is that mischievous is typically pronounced /-viəs/. This pronunciation is quite well-established.
Unless you pronounce harass as /ˈher.əs/, you should probably concede that accepted pronunciations can change.
 
@alphabet her-ASS
 
(Well, in Britain some people still say it that way, but in the US it's clearly died out.)
 
English language, usage, and gymnastics
^possible room name change
 
@alphabet That is not a rule, it is an incident.
@alphabet "Just because I sometimes change my preferred pronunciation because others change their, that means any change initiated by others must be followed by me."
 
6:19 PM
Let's switch to a less controversial topic, like Palestine.
 
Lovely.
 
or the Ukraine
or Monika
or ...
 
Reinstate Ukraine!
 
Or how we now have two people in this chat--yourself and Araucaria--with the same profile picture, which will confuse me indefinitely.
 
@user70432 he's right, that's confusing
 
6:24 PM
"Reinstate Monica" was clearly a Russian-backed disinformation campaign.
But "Monica" was secretly funded by the Iranian government.
Since Russia and Iran started cooperating, both sides started pushing their propaganda less, which is why we don't talk about it so much anymore.
 
Besides hasn't that ship already sailed? She's clearly moved on and will never come back
 
Makes perfect sense!
(Before you accuse me of inventing a ridiculous conspiracy theory: that was a joke.)
 
@alphabet hey for you maybe. I'm being bombarded here
 
Please label it as such.
 
The recent drama in the family sitcom that is Iranian media is about a girl without hijab who hugged a goalkeeper after that football team scored a goal.
 
6:27 PM
@M.A.R. Yeah, I think SE more-or-less offered to consider reinstating her but she refused.
@user70432 Label it as a joke, you mean? I think I already did.
 
@alphabet SE never bargained in good faith since they didn't unceremoniously fire her in good faith. And she's not stupid.
 
@M.A.R. Well, they didn't fire her; she was never an employee, just an unpaid volunteer.
 
Even the person who worked for SE at the time who caused the whole mess in the first place is no longer working at SE.
 
Her attempt at creating a stack exchange like community on discord has pretty much flopped.
 
@M.A.R. First they stop wearing hijabs, then they start hugging. Where will it end?!?!
 
6:31 PM
So @user's avatar is more like "War on poverty--Not the people"
 
Yeah, I am--not to insult anyone here--uncertain as to why people still have those profile pictures. What more is SE supposed to do now?
 
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A: Correct Choice of First Vowel in Words Such as "Regret" and "Return"

tchristShort answer: it doesn’t matter, and there can be no single right answer that excludes others. The OED says this about the re- prefix’s pronunciation: Stress is usually determined by a subsequent element and vowels may be reduced accordingly. So what really matters here is vowel reduction. Fir...

These take much too much work. They're all the same, too.
 
@alphabet I still call that firing. Because there was the smoke and the burning lungs
@alphabet no doubt I will find two brothels by the end of the week in my neighborhood
 
@M.A.R. Right next to a parade of gay furries.
 
@tchrist +1
 
6:34 PM
If you're wearing a fursuit, do you have to wear a hijab under it? Or does the fursuit itself count?
 
@alphabet they're not worried much about that since people have been much more resistant to acceptance of . . . the whole gender spectrum and stuff.
 
Especially beginning with the short answer.
 
But uf you get them talking, the popular belief is "they wanna turn our kids gay so our population dwindles and we no longer have soldiers"
 
tldr
 
Noun: bombero m (plural bomberos)
  1. firefighter
  2. bombéro (Basahan spelling ᜊᜓᜋ᜔ᜊᜒᜍᜓ)
  3. fireman; firefighter
  4. bombero
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6:38 PM
@M.A.R. I'm surprised people in Iran have gotten to the point of hand-wringing about that. Don't they still have the death penalty for homosexuality?
 
@tchrist my face does indeed look like ᜊᜓᜋ᜔ᜊᜒ after a fresh batch of propaganda about Hamas
 
@M.A.R. ¡Jamás!
Noun: iconoclasm (countable and uncountable, plural iconoclasms)
  1. The belief in, participation in, or sanction of destroying religious icons and other symbols or monuments, usually with religious or political motives. [1797]
  2. Synonyms: iconomachy, idoloclasm
  3. Antonyms: iconodulism, iconoduly, iconoplasm
  4. Hypernym: desecration
  5. (figurative) A challenge to a widely held belief, tradition or cherished institution. [1858]
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Please stop clasming our holy cows in this chat.
 
Sorry.
 
6:42 PM
@M.A.R. I'd love to imagine an American president sitting around plotting that.
 
@alphabet officially, the same barbaric rules have been in place since Khomeini. Unofficially, people have calmed down considerably since the war. Younger people do not snitch on anything.
@tchrist my motives weren't political so it gets only half the points.
 
@M.A.R. You I was not addressing.
Plus I think you're a bovivore anyway.
 
@M.A.R. Since which war?
I'm not sure what war "the war" refers to in other countries.
 
Well you never know. One moment you're chatting, not a care in the world, the next you're clasming a cow
@alphabet Iran-Iraq war
 
Deliberately poking people's kine in the eye is apt to get you kicked by Bossie. Just sayin'.
That's how the Great Chicago Fire happened. Let's not go there.
 
6:45 PM
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People that were young then are adequately indoctrinated and the main supporters of the regime today. People who came after have repeatedly acted against religious zealotry.
 
@M.A.R. Ah, that one. Good, one of the wars that was only kind of America's fault.
 
Saul was a Zealot until the road to Damascus.
 
One does assume that Iran is not exactly an accepting environment, though.
 
Then he got Pauled.
 
6:46 PM
Though without much guidance, you don't really make much cultural progress.
@tchrist Better Paul Saul!
 
And not paulatinamente either, but with a stroke like unto lightning.
 
Apaulling
 
He probably had a stroke.
 
Please no stroking in the chat room
 
@M.A.R. So people over 55/60 are considerably more conservative than those younger, there is a kind of sharp divide?
 
6:48 PM
@alphabet yeah, since no one has really championed any sort of cultural reform. My generation mostly picks up stuff as we stare googly-eyed at the Western way of living, as portrayed in social media
No wonder we don't make much progress
 
If I set my Grindr location to Tehran, it says "no profiles available." How sad.
 
@Cerberus getting ever sharper as everyone today has a favorite Telegram channel of their own to polarize them.
 
@alphabet Probably blocked by Grinder for safety?
@M.A.R. Oh, fun.
At least things will develop in the right direction in the future, probably.
 
It's the only way I've found out about our recent drama. Otherwise I'm too busy chasing my tail to care.
 
@Cerberus It's owned by an American company; I wouldn't be surprised if sanctions made it illegal for them to even offer it in Iran.
 
6:50 PM
I don't know about that.
Some from Iran contacted me via it hehe.
Probably using a VPN?
I don't know whether he masked his location.
 
@Cerberus One assumes. Were they in Iran at the time? What were they contacting you for?
 
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@alphabet Not they, just one man.
Yes, in Iran.
 
@M.A.R. I fail to see how anyone could look at, say, contemporary America and think of it as an excellent model for society.
 
6:54 PM
He is moving to my country later this year, I believe.
Just looking around here.
 
@Cerberus Sorry, I meant "he."
 
He also has pictures and videos on his Insta, in which none of the girls wear head scarves.
 
@Cerberus I've mentioned it before: There's a bit of that quintessentially Russian sentiment among Iranians of "feeling oppressed", myself included. So I can't hold much faith in people pushing the system in the right direction. Instead it's gonna be a bubble that will accrue pressure and violently pop, allowing the next populist to grab power.
Still it doesn't hurt to hope I guess
 
@M.A.R. Meanwhile, here we have a Houthi influencer problem.
 
@tchrist Now I wonder if bomb and pomp come from the same root. I bet they do.
 
6:57 PM
@M.A.R. But don't you think society will change once the old conservatives are, well, dead?
 
@Cerberus I wonder what kind of impression he got exactly.
 
How do you mean?
 
@Cerberus I.e. what he took away from looking at Grindr in the country he's moving to.
 
@alphabet the neighbor's grass maintains its shine from afar, and problems you don't have to face are always trivialized
 
@M.A.R. Is that the Farsi equivalent of "the grass is always greener"?
 
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