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12:09 AM
I like words like tergiversation.
I had never heard that before, but I knew what it meant.
 
H8, about 4 words I didn't recognize/didn't know with that meaning and several other mistakes with words I thought I did know
panegyric, spindling were two I remember that I got right, but had not seen before like that
somehow I got offal wrong
@Cerberus See that's one I would so give up on.
 
Hehe. I just know the Latin words.
 
You're like, cheating, knowing all these roots and things.
Hehe jinx.
 
And the overall meaning makes sense. I could make up such a word.
Heh.
If only new words made as much sense now: but people come up with ugly bastardizations that really don't make sense, like using euro- as a suffix cries.
 
Aww.
That must hurt for you to read.
 
12:14 AM
sniffles
 
Hey, um, be glad you're not in a tumbrel?
 
A what??
Ohh a tumbrel.
Of course.
 
I guessed acrobat for that because I had no idea.
 
nods
 
Poor acrobat.
 
12:18 AM
Haha.
Yes.
So some kind of cart. Stupid word.
 
The other option is "a kind of mediaeval torture device, later associated with a cucking-stool" but then the wiktionary definition to cucking-stool doesn't exist! I mean really! I am supposed to just Google that?
 
Hahaha WTF.
 
Ducking-stools and cucking-stools are chairs formerly used for punishment of women in England and Scotland (see reference, 1985). Writers often mistakenly consider both stools to be the same but they are not. The cucking-stool was a form of wyuen pine ("women's punishment") as referred to in Langland's Piers Plowman(1378). They were both instruments of social humiliation and censure, primarily for the offense of scolding or and less often for sexual offenses like bearing an illegitimate child, or prostitution. The stools were technical devices which formed part of the wider method ...
Phew it's in Wikipedia so I didn't have to go out to teh interwebz at large.
Sounds scary though.
I had no idea this had a special name.
I think I'm going to have nightmares.
 
Oh funny.
Kakstoel.
That sort of makes sense.
Shitting chair.
 
What game are you talking about?
 
12:29 AM
Now I got lots of mistakes, even words I really didn't know (along with the same words I really know but get wrong), and I am back in J!
The scoring is really ridiculous.
I get "ineffable" wrong every time. I know perfectly well what it means.
 
user19161
Nice kitty @kit!
 
But the answers don't make sense.
 
user19161
Now everyone is playing the game and no one is closing questions...
 
I don't know what H4 means.
 
Well, it's not good enough to be really educational.
 
12:36 AM
And I'm not giving out my phone number.
 
@KitFox It means you scored H on the scale of A to J.
A is worst.
4 is the subgroup, 9 is highest.
 
Well, surely I can do better than that.
 
Yeah, well, the scoring system doesn't work properly.
I wish people who made these games were really smart and well read.
Then I could learn some words! Now, I don't know whether I got it wrong or the answers are just not very accurate (they often aren't).
 
(laterz... phone)
 
I think they aren't very accurate. Ductile doesn't mean anything that they gave. Flexible or something was the closest you could get, but ductile means it can be drawn into wire.
I got I3 that time.
Stupid. Don't like it. Probably infected my computer with something nasty too.
 
12:46 AM
I agree.
As to the infection...
 
I'm allergic to penicillin.
 
Do you see these kitten pictures?: %^**&&**&#$$
 
Uh, no.
 
No? Then you must be infected with a virus.
 
Well, I should go put my computer in bleach then.
 
12:49 AM
Have you tried yelling at it? Kicking?
Brooding stares?
Pretending to look away?
 
Hmm.
I have to go. Chat tomorrow?
 
Ok adios!
Let's play map game again sometime.
Think about this one when you get back. No idea how hard it is.
This is Bing Maps, btw.
 
Just a few minutes before I have to run again. Catch you tomorrow, Hello @Kitty:)
@Cerberus Ooh! Ooh! A green and brown thing!
Gah, I swear this is the last time I play the word challenge. I now learned I don't know tortuous from torturous.
Which kinda makes sense - even wiktionary sez "This term has strongly negative connotations, perhaps transferred from the similar-sounding adjective torturous" but now I feel even more like spelling is just another way for English to screw with my brain.
 
1:07 AM
@aediaλ Ding!
 
Hehe.
 
@aediaλ English is bad news, didn't I tell you? Let's all switch to Dutch! pretends to start running
 
giggles
Are there tortes or tortoises in your equivalent of tortuous, like there ought to be? Because a language where there are cake-filled turtles would make so much more sense to me right now.
 
Haha. I'm afraid not.
Turtuous is kronkelig.
Tortoise is schildpad.
Torturous is eh...martel-.
 
Hey different words!
That is better.
Whoops, gotta run.
'Night, puppies!
 
1:16 AM
Bye!
But is is is.
 
 
3 hours later…
4:34 AM
Pretty funny game I'm playing.
Space trading/fighting/exploring game.
Free.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:39 AM
@DavidWallace
 
Uhuh?
 
which sentence is more preferred?
1- total number of packet which the decoder can't decode
2- total number of packets which cant be decoded by decoder
3- any better sentence?
the first sentence seems a little wrong to me!
 
Well, none of them are sentences, they're noun phrases.
 
right, my mistake
 
The first one needs an "s" on the end of "packets", and the second one needs an apostrophe in "can't".
 
6:44 AM
typo
 
The second one needs "the" before "decoder".
 
and both seem right to you?
 
After that, the first two are both correct. There's not much to choose between them; although it's probably better to use the active voice - that is, number 1 is better.
But it's no biggie either way.
 
alright, thank you
 
No problem.
 
6:45 AM
another question
 
Can it wait about half an hour? Ask it now, but I'll eat my dinner before I reply.
 
in this sentence: "There is a standard of communication which is called an Internet Protocol standard"
what's the name of "which is" (grammatically)
(off to eat dinner?)
 
7:00 AM
Umm, "which" is a relative pronoun; "is" is an auxiliary verb. I think you mean "the Internet Protocol standard", not "an Internet Protocol standard".
 
7:33 AM
@DavidWallace Ok, so may question is, when is it possible to omit relative pronoun + auxiliary verb? I think this sentence is fine too: "There is a standard of communication called the Internet Protocol standard"
If it's possible to omit "which is", is the following conversion correct too? "I have a car which is red" => "I have a car red"
 
Good question, I'd have to think about it.
In "I have a car which is red", "is" is not an auxiliary verb, because "red" is only an adjective, and not a verb. But I don't think I know what the rule is.
 
7:53 AM
Relative pronoun + finite form of be + past particple + something dependent on participle=> past participle.
> The man who was called by his wife => the man called by his wife.
Relative pronoun + present finite verb + something dependent on verb phrase => present participle.
> The man who lives nearby => the man living nearby.
This is just the general structure: as always, there are finer rules.
 
Thank you. I was thinking that this was the sort of question best suited to someone who had learnt English as a second language.
 
Heh.
I don't remember learning this—in fact, I just made it up.
 
Shh! You're not supposed to say that!
 
Oops.
By the way, have you done the game yet?
Vocab game.
It is pretty annoying, and the way it calculates its scores is rather cryptic.
 
No. I might do it at the weekend, or on Wednesday.
 
But if I do it in an evening, I shall be too tired to do myself justice.
 
Don't worry, you will be frustrated at the random scores and inaccurate choices any time of day.
 
Fun for the whole family then.
 
8:20 AM
Yay!
 
@DavidWallace So shall I ask it on the site?
 
Umm, do you find Cerberus' answer inadequate?
 
It doesn't answer if "I have a car red" is correct or not? does it?
 
Red is not a participle, so it doesn't work.
 
OK, I'll tell you that one for free. "I have a car red" is not correct.
 
8:36 AM
It only works with a few adjectives, i.e. the ones that can come after their noun.
But, if you stick to the rules I gave, you're safe enough.
 
I find the answer adequate now. Thank you @Cerberus
 
@MeysamΒВBẞ8 OK good luck with it! I'm off to bed now.
 
@Cerberus nice dreams
 
Thanks, you too, eventually!
 
Isn't there any windows application for chatting in this room from desktop?
 
8:43 AM
What?
I use Internet Explorer from my desktop.
 
No I mean some sort of stand alone application, which shows pop-up notifications
like gtalk
something independent of browser
@DavidWallace And why do you use IE? Don't you find Firefox, Chrome or Opera useful?
 
I find them interchangeable, except in very specific contexts, of which using Stack Exchange is not one.
 
I don't remember when was the last time I used IE
maybe 9000 (meme) years ago
 
Is "misremember" an English word @DavidWallace?
 
Yes it is, but it's not commonly used.
 
8:55 AM
@DavidWallace Which sentence is correct? "I don't remember when was the last time I used IE" vs "I don't remember when the last time I used IE was"
 
Thank you.
 
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Q: Long subjects in indirect questions

MeysamΒВBẞ8I know that to indirectly ask: What is your name? I should say something like: I don't know what your name is. But what if the subject of question is longer than "your name"? Something like: What is the benefit of closing school when there's a flu outbreak It just doesn't sound ...

 
I have to go and do something. BBL.
 
Gah Meysam plagiarizes again. I don't find this funny, I must say.
 
9:06 AM
my nickname?
 
No, my nickname. :P
You have the whole Farsi alphabet at your disposal. You could come up with something original, you know.
 
I don't find it funny either. The point is that I can't come up with something original. I am not as creative as you Reg. But if it hurts, I will try to stay as pure as I am, I will stick to Meysam, no extra letters
 
Nah, never mind. I'll just rename myself into میثم
 
:O
I bet you asked @Gigili
 
I bet I have not.
Now let's make it interesting.
 
9:17 AM
@RegDwightB8 I want to change my name, but I can't seem to: Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again on May 22 at 7:31
 
I might be able to do that with some tricks though
 
Now I'm intrigued.
 
Okay I changed it. You may be able to see it when the cache gets emptied. Or if you press CTRL + F5
 
Heh. "Leave the ward"?
 
9:25 AM
nope
Google translate is not good enough at that
 
Well that's what Google says.
Of course it's no good at anything.
 
it sort of means "free in handcuff" or maybe "free in ward", something like that
 
user19161
@MeysamΒВBẞ8 What trick did you use to change your username before the period of 30 days is over?
 
@JasperLoy Well, that's easy. Just go to one of the StackExchange sites, go to your profile page on that site, edit your profile in there, instead of pressing the Save Profile button, press Save Profile and Copy it to All StackExchange accounts. That will do the trick and will let you change your name in all sites. This will not work twice though, unless you create a new account in one of the StackExchange sites (where you are not a member of yet), and do the trick there.
 
user19161
9:35 AM
@MeysamΒВBẞ8 So the part that answers my doubt is the last one: create a new account?
 
Seeing how there are 80 StackExchanges and counting, you could do that all night long.
 
@JasperLoy I mean, to become a member of one of the StackExchange sites, you know, there are a lot of them
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند I know about the copying to all accounts part. What I don't get is how you can change again before 30 days.
 
user19161
And I see you just changed again.
 
@JasperLoy The 30 days limit does not apply to all sites at the same time.
 
user19161
9:38 AM
@Meysamرهادربند So I can use an existing account to do the trick as long as it is another one?
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند QED.
 
user19161
This also solves the mystery of why I could change 3 hours before 30 days the last time: because I used another account.
 
user19161
Wow, SE is full of puzzles!
 
@JasperLoy Yes
 
9:40 AM
Good Morning!
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Boo! We just solved a mystery.
 
I see!
Now you can go from Jasper Loy to Will hunting 80 times a month!
 
user19161
I think this is the most important conversation in all SE rooms. It should win the award of the year or something.
 
What would the award of the year look like?
 
user19161
Maybe TPTB is spying on us and will change the code so that this cannot be done.
 
user19161
9:42 AM
@MattЭллен Just a blog post saying Award goes to... That is all!
 
maybe, but I can't see it being a problem. how many people are going to abuse it?
@JasperLoy a blog post anywhere?
 
@JasperLoy They don't have enough time to change the code now, lol, there are lots of unanswered feature-requests out there already.
 
user19161
@MattЭллен I am thinking it might be computationally expensive. It might strain the system or something.
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند You like to lol don't you?
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند Your English seems to have improved!
 
9:43 AM
@JasperLoy I don't know, why?
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند Just a casual remark!
 
user19161
@MattЭллен On one of the SE blogs of course!
 
@JasperLoy Are you monitoring my English learning progress?
 
@JasperLoy for humans maybe. The only reason it's limited to 30 days now is because it's confusing to people - if you change your name a lot you're difficult to keep track of in comments and such
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند No, I am not a stalker. Don't worry!
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user19161
9:46 AM
@MattЭллен Also it's good to know who is posting if you already know the user.
 
user19161
Confession: I downvoted 3 of Kris's answers earlier today.
 
user19161
I left a comment on some of them.
 
That hurt you only half as much as it hurt them.
 
user19161
I really could not stand his answers anymore.
 
user19161
9:50 AM
For one he keeps saying this "editing some more in" thing.
 
user19161
He should just post his answer later instead of saying that.
 
user19161
It makes the answer look very "unprofessional".
 
user19161
Also he did not post the ngrams he referred to and also misinterpreted it.
 
In what way is this unprofessional? Often, one thinks of new points to make, after one has already posted one's answer.
 
@DavidWallace if any of those posts get deleted, the downvoter will get his reps back, but not the downvotee.
 
9:52 AM
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 what about self deletion?
 
I don't think that matters.
 
You mean if any of the questions get deleted? Or the answers? Or both?
 
user19161
@DavidWallace What I mean is he says "editing some more in" or something like that in the post itself.
 
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 hmmm. that seems somewhat unfair. Oh well.
 
@MattЭллен well you can get a badge.
 
user19161
9:53 AM
You can't see it because he changed it within a short time.
 
@JasperLoy Oh, that's just nasty!
 
user19161
@DavidWallace And there was once he said "plus one" without upvoting someone.
 
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 but only once :D and badges are not unawarded
 
I often say -1 without downvoting.
 
user19161
@DavidWallace That is bad too!
 
user19161
9:54 AM
Plus one and minus one mean nothing here but upvotes and downvotes respectively. QED.
 
No it's not. It expresses my disapproval, without costing anyone anything.
 
@MattЭллен Also it forces you to think twice before spewing nonsense next time. Much better than being able to post garbage as often as you please, knowing full well that it won't hurt you in the least.
 
@DavidWallace but you could do that in a less ambiguous way
 
In one recent case, the question already had -9. I put a comment explaining why I felt it was worthy of a downvote; but I figured that going from -9 to -10 would make more difference to me than to the OP.
 
@DavidWallace Facepalm. Downvotes on questions are free.
 
9:55 AM
@DavidWallace That's encouraging, because the OP thinks someone should have upvoted him too
 
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 but if the garbage is gone, then it's not hurting anyone
 
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Are they? Cool! I'll apply many more of them then.
 
user19161
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Maybe the difference is in other terms.
 
@MattЭллен -2 is a tiny scar. Life leaves way worse ones on you. Plus it is still hurting 10k people and mods who will always be able to see that garbage.
 
Look, he'd had 9 hit and runs. All I did was give an explanation as to why. What's the harm in prefixing it "-1"?
 
9:57 AM
@DavidWallace And you leave him wondering why his reputation has not changed, and directs him to meta to report a bug
 
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 ah, you work with goggles removed!
 
user19161
@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Are we on The Hour of Power?
 
@MattЭллен psst, the goggles do nothing anyway.
@JasperLoy You always are.
 
user19161
@MattЭллен No, he works with X-ray goggles!
 
@Meysamرهادربند Yeah, right. Hello meta, but I haven't lost enough reputation.
 
9:59 AM
but then he can see me naked! that's a bit too intrusive
 
user19161
X-ray goggles allows one to see deleted posts. QED.
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Move along! Nothing to see there!
 
hey! You don't know!
 
@JasperLoy Would make a good April fool
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند They had the snowman in chat last December. The ping circle became a snowman. That was cute. I hope they do it again this December.
 
user19161
10:02 AM
Why is @gigili deleting her accounts?
 
user19161
@Meysamرهادربند TPTB usually gives a user a cool down period.
 
That's strange. I hope she doesn't leave
 
0
Q: Single word for random selection

Dipan MehtaI want a word that spells like "Selected from the pool/set" - randomness is implied but not necessary. What is a good word for this? The parameters is selected from the set to be used in experiment. I want one phrase for selected from the set so that it can be used to form a terminology.

Why do people want to pack completely random phrases into one word?
So much time and energy is being wasted on not simply saying what you mean and leaving it at that.
 
maybe he has to send a telegram
they charge per letter
 
10:15 AM
We should do that, too.
 
We will give you a single word for "selected from the set" if you give us a single word for "I want a word that spells like".
 
Would someone please answer this:
1 hour ago, by MeysamΒВBẞ8
@DavidWallace Which sentence is correct? "I don't remember when was the last time I used IE" vs "I don't remember when the last time I used IE was"
 
I wanted it to read "I want a word that smells like"
 
10:18 AM
"I don't remember when the last time I used IE was" is correct
you can leave out when and was if you like
"I don't remember the last time I used IE"
 
@MattЭллен Thanks
 
no problem :)
Or, @Meysam, you can move when: "I don't remember the last time when I used IE was"
 
10:41 AM
Huh wha
I can't parse that.
 
try harder!
what's tripping you up?
 
[I don't remember] [the last time [when I used IE] was] [what]?
You could say, "[I don't remember] [when the last time [when I used IE] was]".
 
Yeah, ok, that's what I meant
I think
 
RegDwight: confusing correcting native speakers since 1997!
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I don't remember the last time when apples were
yeah, that needs more words
 
10:48 AM
Seven.
Eight is even better.
 
On the other hand, as uh, rhetoric I guess, you can do this:
I don't remember [the last time | when] apples were
I can't think of a good preceding sentence
oh, OK
> These apples are expensive
> I don't remember when apples weren't
 
I don't remember a time when they were not
Hum?
 
@MattЭллен yeah well but that's a deliberate ellipsis. You have more words in there, you just don't mention them.
 
Yeah, that's true
 
10:59 AM
Also, you'll fail to construct something similar for "I don't remember the last time when I used IE was". Because of the "the last time" bit. The when is just completely misplaced.
 

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