@JasperLoy a language universal

@Mitch well, the characters can encode a LOT of meaning more densely. But it's like learning a secondary language as an accessory to your main language, so that you can write in a sort of code.

Yeah and then you discover that what you're writing is Greek to everyone else.

Βλακείες

Bless you

Blake, yes.

@terdon Is that an optative?

Or don't you have optatives any more?

Um. Dunno?

Like, imagine the horror. You are speaking a proper language, even without articles and all that shit, really fine language bruh. But then you have to write it down and you suddenly find out it's frigging Chinese.

That just means bullshit, really.

Ah, it is plural?

Yes

OK.

Bulls hit.

@RegDwigнt That's the worst.

I thought it was a verb.

The s is a giveaway that it's plural.

@Cerberus Ah, no.

@RegDwigнt There are similar constructs that are verbs. The ει is what threw Cerb off, probably.

For example τρέχεις is a verb and singular.

ει bulls ει bulls hit hit ει bulls

That's just contrary!

> λυθεῖεν

Lies, τρέχεις is just the tube you breathe through.

Optative passive aorist, 3rd person plural.

call me back when you get a real language like Sindarin or Kilngon or Irish

You often get weird i's in between vowels with the optative.

-εις is the normal present indicative, 2nd person singular.

@Cerberus Facultative passive-aggressive past future, non-inclusive first person dual

τρέχεις, τραχύς, τραχοσαῦρος

You must be speaking a different language.

Fuck ur ltative passive-aggressive past future, @Mitch.

non-inclusive first person dual I think means that it includes you and the speaker but no one else.

or maybe not the speaker.

A rough lizard?

You know any smooth ones?

@Mitch I think "non-inclusive" and "dual" are pleonastic.

@RegDwigнt They are usually not so rough.

@RegDwigнt The gila monster.

Well no, not so rough not quite, hence the distinction between τραχοσαῦρος and just σαῦρος.

Do I really have to spell it all out for you.

@Cerberus nah, I think you could involve more than two but leave out who you're speaking to. Sort of 'mean girls' style.

Everybody but 'you singular'

Needless to say, but for the sake of completeness, τραχύς is Russian for "fuck".

@RegDwigнt Now the party has started!

It also summons ogres.

ναί

And it lets bubos fly away to catch their bus.

ew

have a good bus

By the way I'm on twitch now so if you want to hear my horrible accent, drop in by.

@MetaEd thank you. Do post them on meta, we can all use them.

as RegDwight or another alias?

RegDwight is my alias on this site only.

cool cool

Elsewhere I have the same alias as on Wikipedia. Regulars will know.

@Cerberus not pleaonastic. see 1.4 and 1.5

@Mitch I don't think that's generally what is meant when people speak of "inclusive we".

And now that I listen to myself every day to cut stream highlights, it's not anywhere as slight as everyone's been telling me. I honestly don't understand a word of what I'm saying.

@Mitch I will study that later, have to go now.

Bai!

@Cerberus right that's because it's more like exclusive we.

@RegDwigнt lol

Anyway, just thought I'd mention this so you can get a horrible case of cognitive dissonance between how I've been talking all this time in chat and how I actually talk in like actually.

@RegDwigнt 'But it plays so perfectly in my head'

Yes, that's one thing, and it's true to an extent, but the other thing I'm expressing my amazement at right now is the "but it plays so perfectly in everyone else's heads".

@RegDwigнt you sound like an RP speaking BBC anchor in my head

There's the story about the blacksmith in a small town in Romania.

Well known for being able to do very successful cataract surgery on the local villagers.

Snip-snip with his tools, and done.

@MattE.Эллен Well then. I'd post a direct link for your amusement, but so far I've only cut videos where I was speaking German, so I'd have to manually search the stream recordings for the bits in English, and I'll do that some other time as now I have to run.

Called the cataract-smith.

Anyway, some doctors came to town to see how he did it.

Au reservoir.

@RegDwigнt :D fair enough. CU!

no prep/sterilization, no planning just sit down, don't blink and you're off

but cataracts need, like, a new lens, don't they?

(stop it! it's just a story!)

(ok :D)

So then after that he wasn't able to do any more surgeries because he was so scared he might make a mistake.

So there's the obvious moral for you @RegDwigнt

that's a shame.

Well, the moral is entirely irrelevant but it's poignant

also, I'm considering taking up blacksmithing.

you know a lot of people with cataracts?

@MattE.Эллен but yes. a new lens. I don't see how cataract removal is even a thing. Why don't you just drill holes in your skull to stop bad thoughts? Why don't you take smaller and smaller concentrations of a bad thing to elicit a stronger and stronger response against them? Because it's effing crazy sticking a scalpel in your eye, that's why.

@MattE.Эллен not any more.

sad panda?

They got them fixed!!

but it's magic.

magic?

I think glasses are magic. How can that possibly work?

Paul Daniels throws wizbit at them?

@Mitch fair point

@MattE.Эллен yeah, the sticking a scalpel in your eye thing. Magical.

Thanks for the python advice.

I hate different languages. why aren't they all just C-like with extras?

particle physicists looked over the doctor's shoulder during the operation and we aghast and surprised how they didn't make mistakes with such inaccurate equipment

same with angular. You can't just add one thing in one place to change one thing. It has to be three things in three different places to get three things. No less.

angular js? I've only used it a bit and it is a bit like a black box.

@MattE.Эллен wasn't there the guy at LHC who accidentally put his head in the path of the beam (of a single particle)? Free pizza party for him!

@MattE.Эллен open up the black box. more black boxes.

@Mitch oh, yeah. that's a horrible thought

I feel like it shouldn't make a difference because our heads aren't very beam-interactive, like a lead plate would be (uses 100 year old science imagery to explain Star Trek tech)

I think he's brain damaged now? I can't remember

I knew of a guy (ong ago on campus) who had a similar 'experience' but with x-rays or something, and ever after walked around campus with a huge brimmed hat and gloves because he was afraid of sunlight exacerbating things. I think that was just being eccentric though.

Anatoli Petrovich Bugorski in 1978 didn't get stupider, so that's good

haha...to treat him they took CT scans of his head, not exactly particle beams but ionizing radiation anyway.

:D

Is this correct? "For those who expecting a child."

aha thx :-)

Is this correct? "I am looking forward to hearing from you"

@Shafizadeh Actually yes, if you add the period of course.

ah ok :-)

@Shafizadeh You might also consider "I am looking forward to hearing from you again." if you've met the person before.

I see

Sorry, that needs a correction.

@Tonepoet god it thx :-)

Is this sentence correct? "As a note, that 'word' is redundant in your sentence."

@Shafizadeh If you mean that there is a redundant word, then no quotes. If you mean that there is a redundant word, and the word is literally "word", then it's fine.

Hello again, folks. Today it's a question about that bane of grammarians, the humble apostrophe.

> think it's reasonable to try to work with people's schedules within reason.

I've got a feeling this should be "peoples'". Is that right? Since people is plural? Or not?

no, the 's signifies possession by the people

if you had multiple peoples, you'd use peoples'

What Mr Shiny says.

And you have "reason" twice.

I had an answer to a question that explained why I think we do this but the question was eventually deleted.

Given that there was an unaccept, and that moderators allegedly don't have the ability to unaccept, I do so believe it was because the questioner deleted it. Speaking of which, I spent quite a bit of time preparing that answer. It's the only one of mine that is deleted from the website. Would it be out of line to ask one of you guys to retrieve and email it back to me?

^do

I'd be happy to get it for you!

Where is it?

@DEAD you might be interested in the word pandit

And what do you mean by "this"?

Thanks Cerberus. It's here.

@Tonepoet english.stackexchange.com/revisions/…

Can you see this?

No.

Maybe if I had 10k rep. I could.

No, the links are wrong.

Let me fix that.

@Cerberus Thanks for the favor.

Hmm can't fix the links.

I'll put it in a pad thingy.

@Cerberus That's fine.

@Tonepoet pastebin.com/P3stuNVW

I got it.

Good.

Can someone explain why my comment don't believe "experts" was starred?

It was to me unremarkable and jocular.

Maybe it is because it's jocular in that case? Jokes are probably more likely to get on the star wall than other sorts of comments.

However, I'm not the person who starred it so ... Tonepoet shrugs shoulders

@FaheemMitha It's not much of a bane, more of a bete noir

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So it's correct then?

@Mitch If you say so.

@Cerberus Is that bad?

@Cerberus because it was jokeular

@FaheemMitha or rather a thorn in my shoe, the opposite of bailiwick or forte

I cnut

@Tonepoet But it wasn't really funny. Just random.

@FaheemMitha Yes?

@Cerberus That's not the primary criterion?

What isn't for what?

Exactly.

@FaheemMitha I would write "The people's"

@MattE.Эллен I might?

@MattE.Эллен Oh look, it's a new title that can refer to William Dwight Whitney.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 "The peoples's"

Like the waters of the world.

Professor Whitney, Editor in Chief Whitney, President Whitney, The Last Pandit of the 19th Century: William Dwight Whitney.

That last one is because he died in 1894.

Pandit? He could barely watch it!

@Tonepoet There could have been one during the 19th c that lived to the 20th

Or maybe they all gave up well before 1900 (1901 if you're a pedant)

Or maybe they're pandits of the 19th century then. (Tonepoet is hoping nobody catches that this isn't a mutually exclusive designation.) >_> <_<

@Mitch the peoples's'