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7:00 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Smartphones are both more fragile and more exposed to the elements. I see a lot of broken screens. Then consider laptops. I see many, many broken laptops—but that usually just means "one part doesn't work any more". But the repair shop will tell the user replacing the screen or whatever costs €400 (my boyfriend's Macbook's current issue).

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Yeah but smartphones are also cheaper. If your phone is 1 year old, you can usually get a replacement of the whole phone for much less than what it cost new.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I hear people say that they can build a mini-PC for very little money. But of course there are limits to modularity; the question is just where they lie. Having to attach all the individual chips to the motherboard basis and all the little connectors would probably not be worth it!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How do you mean, cheaper? You can buy a mini-PC for €200. An Iphone can be €1100.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Sure, pick the most expensive smartphone on the market and compare it to the least expensive computer possible.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, depends on what you buy. You shouldn't buy a phone just after it has come out.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I actually think the price ranges are not so far off. Many people buy Iphones.

Perhaps a factor 2 max.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I can get a Galaxy S4 for $80 from my mobile carrier.

7:04 PM

No strings attached?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2 year contract.

Let's not get your wicked carrier oligopolies into this!

Ours is bad enough.

I can get a laptop for free with some other subscription too, if I want.

Of course I will be paying double for it through the subscription costs...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

to my knowledge, nobody gives away other kinds of computers around here.

only phones.

But that is irrelevant anyway.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The true cost of that 2 year contract is $240 (that's what you don't save by BYOD)

oh, sorry, $240 + $80

you save $10/month if you BYOD

7:07 PM

No, that is not fair.

I don't want to talk about carriers at all.

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The point is that phones are $0-$1000 and laptops are $250-$3000

So I feel safe in generalizing phones as cheaper than laptops.

Your $0 is not relevant.

5 mins ago, by Cerberus

Perhaps a factor 2 max.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Of course it's relevant, at least here. $0 is what my parents both paid for their Samsung GS3 and GS4 phones. Their computer was more like $800.

never say 0 is irrelevant :D

7:11 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You have a severely distorted market. Perhaps the Ara won't sell in Canada, then. But that is not really relevant for most of the world.

without zero we can't have the negative numbers

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Yeah, Canada and the US are not relevant markets for phones.

But let's assume a world where phones are never discounted by carriers.

for the sake of argument.

If you buy an Ara phone that does as much as a Galaxy S5, or whatever's current, what premium will you pay for the modularity?

Then let's say your most likely-to-break module breaks: the screen. What fraction of the phone's price is tied up in that screen?

If the total premium for the Ara device, plus the cost of the replacement screen, is less than the cost of the replacement S5, you've saved money.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If the screen is modular, it will be a much smaller fraction.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But more likely, the breakage happens when the phone is getting older. The Ara screen you have might not be available anymore, in which case you may need to upgrade some other Ara components. But if you're lucky, it'll be fine. But in a world with no carrier subsidies, older phones like your now-getting-older GS5 will also be available, cheaper than when you bought it.

@Cerberus Well, it was my understanding that the screen wouldn't be modular.

It is modular.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:16 PM

But it hardly matters, if most of the Ara tech is in modules anyway.

see negative numbers come in when you talk about damage

The screen will break in week 1.

I have seen it happen.

You drop it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Sure, and the entire phone will be dropped in the toilet in week 1 too.

Necessitating the replacement of every module

The cost price of a screen sans module will be €50ish, at least it was for the S4 when the S4 came out. It will be a little bit more expensive for a modular version, but not that much. Besides, most people will be happy with a much cheaper screen if it breaks.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Probably not! See, it will usually only be some modules that are damaged by water.

Like the charging port.

If you have Samsung replace your screen, that could easily cost you €200.

That is a high margin.

The Chinese module maker will have a margin, too. But it should be far thinner.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Yeah but now you have to pay for margins for all the various parties. Instead of your phone coming in one box it comes in 8. Instead of one company advertising the phone there are 8 advertising modules. The amount of overhead involved in getting the finished phone to you goes up a lot.

7:23 PM

By the way, you can get a PC with an i3-540 and 4GB of RAM for €200, brand new. With Windows. That is a decent PC that will be fast enough for 90% of all users.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think it will not be all that much.

You don't need to advertise much if you're good.

Like the 1+1.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Currently, the chip vendor sells chips directly to samsung. Samsung has engineers that put the chip into your phone. Then Samsung sells the phone to you.

Now, the chip vendor has to sell to some module maker.

The module maker then has a team of people who have to make this chip work on EVERY possible Ara phone, instead of just one configuration.

Then they need to handle inventory, production, etc, etc, advertising, etc.

Then Google will take some cut of their profits

for the App store the cut is 30%

THIRTY FUCKING PERCENT

Google will also do much of the work.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No joke

I know.

Google cannot ask that much for their hardware store.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So if Google only takes 5% of the profit from the hardware store that is still huge.

7:26 PM

Just as Apple can't make people pay 30% for Apple Pay.

I would expect something like 5%, yes.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

at 5% Google will barely cover their own transaction fees

Perhaps Google will even start at 0% to give it a boost.

Then later crank it up.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Google has to pay the credit-card companies 2-5% just to process the transactions

Google should start accepting other payment methods.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Essentially, module vendors adds another layer into the whole business, and all those layers have costs

7:29 PM

Yes, they add another layer; but the layer that is Samsung will be removed.

And Samsung has huge margins.

And they spend most of those on advertising.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

If samsung's margins are so huge, they will just lower them.

For phones, at least.

Perhaps they will.

But all in all I don't think you need more layers (and more expensive layers) with Ara if Google handles it well initially.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But really I think Samsung will sell their own Ara phones and you'll still need to pay for all that.

Quite possibly!

Let's hope so: more competition.

If everyone starts making Ara frames and Ara modules, that would be ideal.

As long as it remains clear for buyers where they can get frames and modules that will be compatible 100% guaranteed.

Which will be Google's shop.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Whoever sells the base phone and base CPUs will need to do quite a bit of testing to ensure that it works with as many modules as possible. That is comparable, and probably larger, to the overhead Samsung already has for making integrated phones.

7:34 PM

Yes, Google will do that.

That is most of the work, presumably.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

really? Google will do that?

They are doing it as we speak.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

How are they doing it? nobody is making competing Ara phones yet

what's an ara phone?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

A modular android phone

7:35 PM

No, they are building a system that ensures that all modules complying with their specs works with their frame.

"modular" ?

Hello.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Project Ara is the codename for an initiative by Google that aims to develop a free, open hardware platform for creating highly modular smartphones. The platform will include a structural frame that holds smartphone modules of the owner's choice, such as a display, keyboard or an extra battery. It would allow users to swap out malfunctioning modules or upgrade individual modules as innovations emerge, providing longer lifetime cycles for the handset, and potentially reducing electronic waste. A market pilot for Project Ara is scheduled for 2015 with a target bill of materials cost of $50 for a...

@Cerberus So, are they the only ones making the frames?

I want one with no display... and no speaker.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch You can get the Nexus Play device now... it's a phone with no display and no speaker. you attach it to your TV.

7:37 PM

It's always dialed in to one number, and I just say stuff to it, with no talk back.

Furthermore, consider the word slaughter. We commonly speak of one sports team slaughtering the other team, but we don't mean they literally killed, drained, and dressed the carcasses of the other team's players. That is a direct analogue to knackered here. — Robusto 21 secs ago

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ha ha...I don't get it. What does attaching it to your TV do?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 In the foreseeable future, yes.

@Robusto we don't -all- mean that.

Frickin' guy just won't admit knackered may be used except literally.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:38 PM

@Mitch Lets you do Android stuff on your TV.

@Mitch I'm rounding down.

@Mitch Someone was actually saying that in the article I linked to. He wanted to use an Ara without a screen as an easily manageable IP camera.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Or just a cheaper Android on a stick.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you mean call some one/browser stuff from your TV?

@Cerberus Oh, oh! I have a name for the next Android release: Corn Dog!

We had Froyo, Jellybean, KitKat . . . why not Corn Dog?

@Cerberus What's an IP camera?

7:40 PM

A corn dog is a hot dog sausage coated in a thick layer of cornmeal batter. == History == Newly arrived German Texan sausage-makers, finding resistance to the sausages they used to make, have been credited with introducing the corn dog to the United States, though the serving stick came later. A US patent filed in 1927, granted in 1929, for a Combined Dipping, Cooking, and Article Holding Apparatus, describes corn dogs, among other fried food impaled on a stick; it reads in part: I have discovered that articles of food such, for instance, as wieners, boiled ham, hard boiled eggs, cheese, sliced...

@Robusto because corn dogs are revolting?

@Mitch It's the camera you use to take pictures of people drinking IPA.

or perhaps that's the point

@JSBձոգչ Exactly!

@Robusto Well, one reason is at least 4400 years old. It is called the alphabet.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:40 PM

@Robusto Corn Dog is not alphabetically after Lollipop.

@Mitch I think some sort of camera you access over the Internet.

@Cerberus What does that have to do with anything? They're not adhering to strict alphabetical sequencing anyway.

They are!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I used my Nexus S as an easily managed IP camera.

Good.

7:41 PM

alphabets are for luzrs. real men use syllabaries.

@Cerberus Oh, wait. It seems you are finally right about something.

But true men use iconologies.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto They are. Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honey comb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean, KitKat, Lollipop

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 See above.

@Cerberus Oh. It seems like a lot of trouble to go to, eliminating things, when you should be wanting to spend time -adding- new modules things. Removing the screen doesn't save you much. (weight?)

7:42 PM

@Robusto Tsk! But I guess that is the best I'm ever going to get, huh...

@Cerberus Be thankful for that. Every good thing is a gift.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Yes but now you have no excuse for not knowing all the names of the Android versions.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 X will stop them all.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Curses!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Your homework assignment is to memorize what version numbers correspond to what names.

7:43 PM

@Mitch Cost! The screen is expensive, the most expensive part of a smartphone.

Want to bet the next one is Mars? Or M&M?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh! Oh! I think I can do that...

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wait! My dog ate my homework. @Cerberus did it!

@Cerberus so Ara is like Arduino for smartphones?

5.0 L, 4.4 K, 4.1 J, 4.0 I, 3.0 H, 2.3 G, 2.2 F, and then...it gets muddy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:45 PM

Mango, Mochi, Marmalade, Macaroon, Milkshake...

Mung Beans.

@Robusto I have just thrown up a mangled version of your homework for you, voilà.

That will have to do for Mrs. Hiny, I guess.

@Mitch Mmm in a way, but I don't know enough about Arduino.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus You missed 4.3, 4.2, 3.2, 3.1, 2.1, 2.0, 1.6, 1.5

7:46 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The higher ones don't have names. I didn't miss any letters, did I?

@Cerberus me neither. or about Ara

Nerds are a form of candy currently sold by Nestlé under their Willy Wonka Candy Company brand. Nerds are small irregularly-shaped bits of sugar crystal (similar to rock candy) which are covered with a thin candy-coating. Nerds are produced in a variety of colors and flavors and are usually sold in a box that has two flavors separated into distinct compartments, each with its own opening mechanism. Nerds are anthropomorphized on the cover of its distinctive box package. Larger-sized packages have been produced with an assortment of colors, sometimes branded "Rainbow Nerds". Nerds were first launched...

I just don't know what version was Éclair: 2.1? 2.0?

The one after M is easy. ^

@Robusto mmmmmmm

7:46 PM

@Robusto Haha, very appropriate.

@Mitch Project Ara is basically a modular smartphone. If you have a frame and a couple of standard modules, you have a device that can do what a smartphone can.

Android version history

The version history of the Android mobile operating system began with the release of the Android beta in November 2007. The first commercial version, Android 1.0, was released in September 2008. Android is under ongoing development by Google and the Open Handset Alliance (OHA), and has seen a number of updates to its base operating system since its initial release. Since April 2009, Android versions have been developed under a confectionery-themed code name and released in alphabetical order; the exceptions are versions 1.0 and 1.1 as they were not released under specific code names: On September...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus They all have names. But they share the names of their predecessors... 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 are all JB, for example.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know that. But those are implied in my sequence.

They don't have their own names.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

They still have names. arguably 4.1 doesn't have "its own" name either, since it shares a name with 4.2, 4.3

Well, they'll run out of candy before they ever run out of numbers.

7:50 PM

The name Jellybean was given to 4.1. Then the next versions got to share it.

But, in context, it makes the most sense to say "4.1 was Jellybean, 4.4 was Kitkat". The rest is clear enough from implication.

@Robusto Perhaps they will switch to drugs after Z.

Alcohol...

@Cerberus You think Android will make it to Z? I think they may have a whole new OS by that point. But I could be wrong.

No idea!

How long did it take them to progress from their first letter to L?

Five years? Maybe?

You could extrapolate.

Yes, probably something like that...

M is halfway through the alphabet.

7:52 PM

By the way, the G2 is getting cheaper and cheaper...

So call it ten years of Android? The mind boggles.

@Cerberus Now I want a G3.

Windows has survived that long...

Of course you do.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Windows has been around since the 80s.

I saw a G2 refurbished from a reputable shop, with some months of warranty, for less than €200.

I was very much tempted.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, they only put out a usable product in around 2002.

Gulfstream G550

The Gulfstream G500 and G550 are business jet aircraft produced by General Dynamics' Gulfstream Aerospace unit, located in Savannah, Georgia, USA. They are marketing names for the Gulfstream V-SP. There were nine G500s and 198 G550s in active service as of January 2009. == Development == === Gulfstream G500 === The G500, a variant of the G550, was certified by the FAA in 2003. It was introduced into service in 2004. As a shorter range version of the G550, it has the same exterior appearance, as well as the PlaneView cockpit, but does not have the Enhanced Vision System (EVS) as standard equipment...

When they get to G500 or G550 . . . flying cars!

7:54 PM

However, the phone I have set my sight on is the Crystal X by Sharp.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Windows 2000 was pretty good.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It was incomplete.

This is the phone I urgently need.

Its cheap brother is available in America now, but that is a mid-range version.

@Cerberus Why can't they shut up and let me hear the Japanese in the background. Too muddy to make out, actually.

any predictions on tonight's WS?

7:56 PM

@IceBoy WS?

World Series

of baseball

Who's pitching?

@Robusto You might pick up more about the phone than the reporter!

@IceBoy Oh...

@IceBoy you already did!

Oct 26 at 19:47, by Ice Boy

full count 3-2

> it uses a prism lens type of glass that refracts the display towards the edge of the device

7:58 PM

I'm going to say KC since they're at home. 2-1 in extra innings.

Tim Hudson (R) Jeremy Guthrie (R)

Vegas has KC -1.5

@IceBoy How about side bets? How many cars will be tipped over and burned?

:D

@IceBoy Then SF are the dogs.

@Robusto yep

@Robusto Ok, I'll take San Fran for the championship

Good luck & enjoy the game :)

in The Clubhouse, 2 hours ago, by Ice Boy

OK I'll take the Giants +1.5

8:13 PM

It's been quite some time since I last had to copypaste myself on blocking.

Next up I expect to have to copypaste myself on metathesis or metanalysis.

These three types of questions keep coming up every couple months.

But first I'll resume watching the Hobbit. The darn thing's so long I had to pause midway through.

Is it fun?

The first film?

I liked the first hour more than I would have expected. Indeed I didn't seem to quite agree with some of the criticism.

But then it started to go off the rails, and once it got off the rails it went downhill.

I'm exactly at the 2-hour mark now, so exactly 1 hour to go.

nobody got time for dat

It is entertaining, and fun to look at, but in a nutshell it suffers from the exact same drawbacks the Ring trilogy suffered from, and adds a couple of its own on top of that.

The most awful one being, dare I say it, poor writing.

I never read the book, so I don't know how much of it is Tolkien's fault.

Lots of deus-ex-machina devices all over the place, lots of unnecessary conflict that arises from nowhere and is instantly forgotten once it's over.

I find Martin Freeman's acting quite over-the-top and in-your-face, but I think the role sort of licenses it. However, absolutely every single other character is a caricature with no excuses to show for it. Not sure what to think of it.

So far it would appear it takes the Star Wars route. A solid Episode Four, then down from there, and with Episode One a significant jump further down still.

But we'll see. Will report back after finishing The Desolation of Episode Two at the latest.

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8:29 PM

@RegDwigнt The book has its share of problems. Peter Jackson left all those problems in the movie and then added his own.

@RegDwigнt Hmm when did it derail?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes, I am aware that the blame for things such as No Woman In Sight Anywhere Evar are squarely with him, so I'm not even mentioning those.

@RegDwigнt Like which?

@Cerberus quite precisely at the Trolls episode.

@Cerberus like the Trolls episode!

Ah, well, the trolls are rather random and silly in the book, too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:31 PM

@RegDwigнt Well, the main plot is mostly Tolkien. But Jackson added the white orc subplot, and extrapolated the entire Necromancer plot from scratchings and divination.

Hmm is the Necromancer plot good? I did like his references.

The poor hungry trolls just wanted to eat two horses. OMG LETS WAGE WARRRRRR!!!1!!!! After having eaten five metric tons of flesh ourselves just two scenes earlier!

Ow, that I do not remember.

I read it only once, I think, 15 years ago.

Or more.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt well, trolls are Evil, so they must be killed.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that Azog or whatever his name, I didn't expect him to look that awful after seeing the minifig version. I didn't expect him to be a main character, either.

8:32 PM

The problem is that the book is too much of a fairytale to begin with.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and dwarves are assholes. It is not cute or funny. It just sucks.

New sky car.

It will actually be sold to consumers.

It can go 160 on the road, 200 in the air.

@RegDwigнt Uh oh...that's all Tolkien's fault then.

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@RegDwigнt Yes. The original material was not well written. The language used is complex and flowery but the plot is very childish and silly. At least LotR does away with the childishness about halfway through the first volume.

So anyway. I've said quite a lot now without so much as finishing the first movie. Plus it's getting late and I planned to watch the second directly thereafter, so I better be off.

8:34 PM

Its range is 875 km on land, 700 km by air.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But because the story in The Hobbit is so childish, it doesn't translate well to a film that mimics the tone of the LotR films.

Have fun!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, hmm, is that really what they tried?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I liked the LotR films a lot, despite their many flaws. A lot.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But not to blame Tolkien too much, that's the fault of the Norse sagas

I liked them moderately. Less than the book.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:35 PM

But I found the first hobbit movie so boring and annoying that I didn't bother watching the sequel.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think I rated them 9, 8, 6. Or something like that. As I said, Star Wars.

But I'm out. See you around.

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@Mitch No, I blame Tolkien. It's his fault if he modeled it after bad source material.

@RegDwigнt Except in Star Wars Ep. 5 was the best one.

@Cerberus I liked them differently than the books. There were pros and cons. Each time I re-read the books I find more cons in the books, so I've stopped re-reading them.

I thought that there was too much fighting in the movies. I mean long drawn out combat scenes with thousands of people smashing into each other. Great as an effect but tiring to the eyes. Kind of like the transformer movies where it's really impressive how they got these metallic beings made out of many parts to move around fluidly, but after 3 minutes of that, it's just more of the same over and over.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I skipped some parts of the books upon rereading them. The endless mud-plodding...

> It is now being tested in real flight conditions since October 2014. Initially certified by the Slovak Federation of Ultra-Light Flying, it now entered a regular flight-testing program.

The AeroMobil 3.0 prototype is very close to the final product. It is predominantly built from the same materials as the final product, such as advanced composite materials for the body shell, wings, and wheels. It also contains all the main features that will be incorporated into the final product, such as avionics equipment, autopilot and an advanced parachute deployment system.

@Mitch Right, I probably agree. But many popular films suffer from that. Cf. the Game of Thrones.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus ?? Game of Thrones has relatively few battle scenes!

Most of the battles have happened off-camera

8:41 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Perhaps, but, whenever there is fighting, it is boring.

I don't mean just "battle", but any kind of fighting.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I dunno. At least you never know if a major character will die.

Violence.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Even if you've read the books... the TV series deviates greatly in some respects.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Just make it quick, Geoffrey.

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@Cerberus *Joffrey

8:43 PM

I haven't read the books. Tom and Rob wouldn't let me.

@Cerberus but you have to drive to an air field to take off and fly, so the faster air speed doesn't make up for the detour time. By the time you get to the airfield, you could have driven to your destination already.

Oh.

@Mitch Well, it depends. They say every town has an airstrip in Slovakia. And the roads aren't always straight, especially not across the mountains and forests and lakes. And there could be traffic jams.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Well, I enjoyed the books. Why not read them? What's the worst that could happen?

Honestly, I didn't like the series enough. I stopped watching a few seasons ago.

And language is a big part of literature.

If it's bad...

@Cerberus I think I'd rather have the submarine car. You don't have to register your flight plan, especially when you're going to your secret tropical island laboratory/clone army manufacturing site.

8:48 PM

Who says you need to register you sky car, hmm?

Submarines are far slower...

> According to the U.S. Department of Defense, the top speed of the submarines of the Los Angeles class is over 25 knots (29 mph or 46 kph), although the actual maximum is classified. Some published estimates have placed their top speed at 30 to 33 knots.

Make sure you make proper arrangements for your retirement before you leave for your tropical island in your submarine.

BRB

@Cerberus well, it's not a balloon. Do you think the air authorities would allow flying wherever you feel like?

@Cerberus For many reasons. clone malfunction, explosive decompression, changing a flat tire.

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@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I knew someone would say that. I just don't happen to agree.

9:06 PM

@RegDwigнt Critics all tend to go with Episode 5 being 'the best', but I think that is too dependent on the first one being so special already.

@Mitch Presumably you would have to check first...

@Mitch That, and...slowness.

9:33 PM

@IceBoy only funny until you stop to realize that it's not redundant. It says that the office very much might tolerate redundancy outside of it. If you drop the "in this office" part, you actually lose information.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I guess that office likes having a computer network full of single-points-of-failure.

9:49 PM

I think I want to ask an ELU question. "What is the word I'm looking for?" No, that's it. :)

and see what I get close voted for. :) Probably too broad.

But if the question was about two broads, then that would also be too broad.

But if asked for a couple of brassieres, that would be two bra'd.

@RegDwigнt You do not lose information, because context.

@SrJoven Haha, nice.

10:36 PM

Had to repair a car again today, it was dirty cold and ew. Will this ever end?

Tyler James Young

11:08 PM

@Cerberus I’m with RegD on this one. I had the same thought when I came across the same picture earlier today.

I agree that the default scope would probably be “in this office”, but it doesn’t actually say that without the last line.

11:24 PM

I am impressed. The Lawler weight of this post is OVER 9000. And for once that's the actual number. You've outlawlered Lawler himself. Bravo. — RegDwigнt ♦ 16 secs ago

@Cerberus first off, you are wrong. Second off, I'd disagree with you even if you weren't, because it's an enjoyable sport.

@SrJoven That one is very easy to answer! The word you are looking for is the sequence of letters with a commonly agreed upon meaning that expresses the meaning you wish to express.

Or do need to explain "you" and "the" as well? We have prior questions for that, so I didn't bother for the time being.

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