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@terdon Well, I tried to learn from a swimming teacher once, but somehow I don't think my strokes are correct, which is why I move very slowly through the water.

infinitesimal

You could take up swimming as a form of exercise @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal Why the name change?

infinitesimal

Boredom

Mitch

@infinitesimal wait...you're somebody we know? I didn't recognize you.

Cerberus

6:29 PM

I did.

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Skull Patrol.

Mitch

nice.

'infinitesimal' is a good handle.

is 'handle' what kidses call it these days?

Cerberus

I prefer "name".

Or "nickname".

A Beautiful Mind

username

Cerberus

I think that is redundant.

infinitesimal

6:30 PM

Yep, truckers use "handle" too @Mitch

A Beautiful Mind

Name, nickname and username mean different things.

The best word choice is username, QED.

I am going to try to change drastically the way I think to make progress.

infinitesimal

But would a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

A Beautiful Mind

I usually think in way X. But sometimes, I somehow enter another state of mind, and I begin to think in way Y. Maybe I should try to think in way Y instead from now, as much as possible,

Maybe if I think in way Y as much as possible from now, I will finally be well.

crl

XY problem

infinitesimal

Why not try Z?

A Beautiful Mind

6:36 PM

Sorry, I cannot elaborate what X and Y are, because I am not even sure what they are. But I can feel it.

Because Z does not exist, LOL.

infinitesimal

Better still go back to a, b, and c.

A Beautiful Mind

I am now targeting the end of 2016 for complete recovery.

infinitesimal

I always liked those letters because I could get my hands on them.

Mitch

@infinitesimal i think here though 'username' sounds the best (in current usage)

again, what's with the stealing my ideas from the future!

infinitesimal

Me?

Mitch

6:42 PM

@infinitesimal Yes, actually. If you name it right, people are predisposed to think certain things of it. If you call this wonderful cup of coffee 'tea' and then you drink it... yechhh.

@infinitesimal ha ha...no 'A Beautiful' stole my idea by saying it temporally before me.

infinitesimal

@ABeautifulMind don't ever let anybody tell you what exists or does not exist when it comes to your own way of thinking

A Beautiful Mind

I wonder what schizophrenia is like.

I am not sure if I would be more or less affected by it compared to what I have.

crl

me too you know

A Beautiful Mind

I think one cannot compare and say one mental illness is worse than another. It all depends on many factors.

crl

it's described as "hearing voices" but I don't except my voice

A Beautiful Mind

6:50 PM

Ultimately, the DSM might be bullshit, LOL.

infinitesimal

Lol

A Beautiful Mind

Really, psychiatric diagnosis and treatment is all very ambiguous.

One man in a video said "No tests? No cures? Total fraud!"

infinitesimal

They have too many unknowns.

A Beautiful Mind

There are no biological tests to diagnose a condition.

Hanaa

Hi everyone

A Beautiful Mind

6:52 PM

Also, depending on what you define, there can be no cures.

That's why it's a total fraud, LOL.

infinitesimal

Hi again.

crl

the cure comes from yourself I believe

A Beautiful Mind

I believe so in my case at least.

infinitesimal

Just believe in yourself

Hanaa

What is the topic@infinitesimal?

A Beautiful Mind

6:53 PM

@Hanaa Mental illness.

infinitesimal

Faith in yourself is the first and most important step.

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal I hope that when I get well, I still have a chance to do what I want to do. I hope that the doors will just keep opening then.

infinitesimal

If they are not you will use the same determination that made you get well to open those doors. @ABeautifulMind

crl

@ABeautifulMind you could give homework help, or even become Math teacher no?

A Beautiful Mind

@crl You mean right now? No, I don't think I should do work now.

infinitesimal

6:58 PM

Drag yourself up. One step at a time @ABeautifulMind

crl

being with others can help a lot, except if you're autistic too

Hanaa

Mental illness is a difficult thing

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Do you have any personal experience with it?

Hanaa

In my family, an old woman lost her mrmory

A Beautiful Mind

I will go to bed in 1 hour.

crl

7:01 PM

I believe everyone is more or less mentally ill, it' a continuous function, not a binary function (mentally ill or not)

Hanaa

Memory

A Beautiful Mind

@crl I think so too.

@crl Same as sexual orientation.

crl

yep, even if I'm asexual at the moment :))

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa You can edit messages within X minutes instead of type a new line.

KitFox

Where X=2

A Beautiful Mind

7:02 PM

Ah, I was not sure.

Hanaa

I'm using the mobile @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa OK. Kids these days. =)

Hanaa

Kids these days?

infinitesimal

It is just an old saying.

Kids these days don't remember the good old days.

=)

Hanaa

Why is it said to me? :D

A Beautiful Mind

7:06 PM

Because I am an old man.

infinitesimal

A joke?

A Beautiful Mind

Because kids these days use the mobile a lot?

Because I am an old man who doesn't use mobile internet?

Hanaa

I describe old men as the autumn that is calm and wise

A Beautiful Mind

Mentally ill men are certainly not calm LOL.

Hanaa

Oh do u mean angry men?

infinitesimal

7:08 PM

;-)

A Beautiful Mind

But I try to keep calm.

Hanaa

Do. u have a mental illness@ABeautifulMind?

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa How many years have you learned English?

infinitesimal

Be calm, be cool.

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Yes, in fact I have a few of them.

Hanaa

7:10 PM

4 years and i am in the 5 th

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa By the way, have you watched the movie A Beautiful Mind?

Hanaa

No i haven't

infinitesimal

Too many bad words. Remember

Hanaa

Ooooooh

A Beautiful Mind

I don't know what kind of movies they allow in the Muslim world...

Hanaa

7:11 PM

Thank u for reminding mr @infinitesimal

infinitesimal

:-)

Hanaa

@ABeautifulMind maybe other movies

A Beautiful Mind

I don't think I want to live in that part of the world, it's scary, too many things I can't do.

Hanaa

@ABeautifulMind scary? Why so ?

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Because you can't even say bad words?

Stack Exchange

7:14 PM

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I’m feeling more tired than ever It really was not too clever To wake up at two A dumb thing to do I think I might sleep now forever

Hanaa

U r free @ABeautifulMind

infinitesimal

Are you @ABeautifulMind going to try to improve your swimming for exercise?

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa My country has a lot of absurd laws as well. It's also pretty restrictive.

@infinitesimal I will just do walking and running, no swimming.

Hanaa

But it is really a beautiful religion full of peace and mercy

The secret country u mean @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Yes.

Hanaa

7:19 PM

I liked the video of those babies in water

A Beautiful Mind

I don't like to look at cute babies.

There is a reason.

Hanaa

Lo!

A secret reason

A Beautiful Mind

If we focus too much on the cuteness of babies or young children, we forget that they are human beings with their own emotions, not just something cute for us to enjoy.

Hanaa

You r right 100%

A Beautiful Mind

Looking at a cute child and feeling joy is not love. Caring about the child as a separate individual from you is love. QED.

This is a concept very hard for some people to understand. There is a difference between cathexis and love. Cathexis not to be confused with catharsis.

Hanaa

7:23 PM

This is the wisedom of old men that we need

KitFox

I love my children.

A Beautiful Mind

@hanaa What subject do you study in university? I studied math.

KitFox

It's hard for me to understand why my mother couldn't love me the way I love them.

Hanaa

I study English @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@KitFox Do you think she is a psychopath? Sometimes I think my father is.

Hanaa

7:25 PM

What is psychopath ?

KitFox

@ABeautifulMind I don't think so. I think she is not capable of love and doesn't understand that she is missing something from herself and so she will never feel the need to change that.

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa I use it in the psychological sense, not the everyday sense. It is known as antisocial personality disorder, roughly speaking. You can check Wikipedia.

KitFox

She doesn't think of herself as a bad parent. She is incapable of recognizing herself because she can't see anything but herself. She is her own entire universe.

Hanaa

Sorry to know that @KitFox

A Beautiful Mind

You should feel sorry for me instead @Hanaa.

KitFox

7:27 PM

Eh. It's been years and lots of therapy, and I am much better now than I ever was.

Hanaa

My mother is so kind and her heart is full of love and sacrifice toward us

KitFox

I think it made me a better person and a better parent in the long run, because now I look at these things critically instead of just existing, like I think most people do.

@Hanaa My mother-in-law is like that. She's been a wonderful healing influence and role model in my life. I can't say enough good things about her.

Hanaa

@ABeautifulMind u look natural to me

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Is it because of the blue colour?

Hanaa

Hhh

A Beautiful Mind

7:30 PM

@hanaa Nobody I know uses hhh, what does it mean?

Hanaa

It means i laugh

infinitesimal

Ha ha ha

Or

Hanaa

In math hhhh=ha ha ha

A Beautiful Mind

In math?

infinitesimal

He he he

With an equals sign.

A Beautiful Mind

7:32 PM

@KitFox There is nobody I admire as a role model.

@infinitesimal

@Hanaa

How about ur mother?

@infinitesimal seems to get along well with ladies from Muslim countries, LOL.

infinitesimal

:P

A Beautiful Mind

7:34 PM

@Hanaa I have a good mother.

@KitFox Are you leaving the office soon? How is the bronchitis?

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind I have that problem too. Lots of people talk about role models, but I've never really felt that way towards anybody. Famous or someone I know personally.

KitFox

@ABeautifulMind The drugs are helping me breathe better, but I am very tired.

I will leave in a few hours, probably.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind But ugly babies are OK to look at?

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Much safer.

Mitch

I like being able to look babies in the eye. They're the ones looking straight into your eyes, but it's not creepy.It's hard with adults.

A Beautiful Mind

7:39 PM

When will Reg have kids, lol.

Hanaa

So your mother is goog @ABeautifulMind

@Hanaa Yes.

Nice!

What is 'goog'?

Is she still alive?

7:40 PM

Yes.

Hanaa

How old is she?

Or a secret?

A Beautiful Mind

Ah, she is in her 60s. I am in my 30s. Anyone past 30 is old.

Hanaa

looooooo!

A Beautiful Mind

I told you I am an old man.

Hanaa

I thought u r 80

A Beautiful Mind

7:42 PM

I never lie, you just need to interpret what I say correctly.

KitFox

@Hanaa Sometimes he feels that way.

Which way@KitFox?

@Hanaa That I am 80?

ahuh why?

@hanaa Will you become an English teacher or professor?

Hanaa

7:44 PM

Yes soon

By the will of ALLAH

A Beautiful Mind

I believe in the Buddha, but not much.

Hanaa

U r from Asia i guess

Mitch

He's from Antarctica

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa Yes.

Hanaa

ahuh

Nice!

A Beautiful Mind

7:46 PM

No, Asia is not nice, LOL.

Mitch

I like the idea of Antarctica. The only reason governments care about it is for research, there's no military purpose to it. So they just split it up like a pie. Like in a cake cutting algorithm.

Hanaa

It iiiiiis

Mitch

Asia is a big place. many different worlds there. It's like saying 'all people from Earth are the same'. Once you get there, people are totally different.

Take Siberia. Most people would say it is not nice.

A Beautiful Mind

I have ranked the continents in terms of quality of life.

Mitch

But if you like snow and sleigh riding, it's great.

@ABeautifulMind I ranked the planets for quality of life. Earth is up near the top.

A Beautiful Mind

7:49 PM

Europe, North America, South America, Oceania, Asia, Africa, roughly speaking.

Mitch

I've never understood how 'Oceania' is a continent. It doesn't seem very contiguous.

Which is what I think a continent should be

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch In Buddhist cosmology there are six main realms of existence. Gods, demigods, humans, animals, hungry ghosts, hell beings.

Cerberus

The continent is properly called Australia.

Mitch

hungry ghosts? well at least they aren't the bottom rung.

A Beautiful Mind

There are different definitions of continent as well.

Cerberus

7:50 PM

@ABeautifulMind I am at the top of the list, yay!

Hell beings rock, I always knew it.

Mitch

@Cerberus Then call it that instead of something that sounds like 'everything else, like random islands in all the oceans of the world'

Hanaa

Where is Antarctica sistuated?

A Beautiful Mind

@Hanaa It's one of the seven continents, near the South pole.

Cerberus

@Mitch I agree.

Hanaa

It is very cold

Mitch

7:52 PM

@Cerberus Then we should change things.

Viva la Revolucion!!

Pow! Pow!

(that was me shooting guns into the air)

Cerberus

Well, the continent is already Australia.

Mitch

Oh.

puts away guns

Cerberus

So a 360-degree revolution?

Mitch

ha ha. Yes!

Cerberus

Such a fuss.

Mitch

7:53 PM

Go for a 720. Just once is kinda lame. kinda n00b.

Cerberus

That would be revolutions.

The dual of 360 is 720.

A Beautiful Mind

I am going to bed. I hope I get a revelation in my dreams.

Cerberus

Too bad Germanic has lost its dual.

Sleep well.

Hanaa

Good night

Mitch

@Cerberus Live dual, laud evil

Hanaa

8:03 PM

@Mitch what r u talking about?

Cerberus

@Mitch You, you...palindromist!

But it's not a bad palindrome at all.

Mitch

It's a palindrome, the same letters forward and backwards. Also, the words say what they mean, live the opposite way of what you are (or hope you are) and praise bad things. It's supposed to be funny.

@Cerberus It's not mine. But you can give me all praise, just because.

Cerberus

gives praise

Hanaa

Giving praise to what? what is dual living? and lauding evil?

@Mitch could u answer?

Mitch

@Cerberus blushes ... but accepts praise and runs away to turn it in for cash

Cerberus

8:09 PM

Good.

KitFox

@Hanaa Please stop using "u" and "r" for "you" and "are". This isn't SMS.

Hanaa

lo!

Mitch

4 mins ago, by Mitch

It's a palindrome, the same letters forward and backwards. Also, the words say what they mean, live the opposite way of what you are (or hope you are) and praise bad things. It's supposed to be funny.

Hanaa

ok @KitFox

KitFox

kthx

infinitesimal

8:10 PM

What's SMS?

Mitch

@Hanaa using SMS speak makes things sound way too informal here, like ... um...

Hanaa

I didn't use um Mr @KitFox

Mitch