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3:02 PM

He did it here, too:

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Q: How to reopen closures with fewer than 5 votes?

The following both involved the participation of moderator KitFox, so would five reopen votes still be needed or simply the number that closed? “Recover against” vs. “recover from” was closed by tchrist, Robusto, KitFox♦. "much of the same" vs "much the same": I've since emended this. I tried t...

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However, that is relevant.

Because it is 3 votes instead of 5.

On the other hand, people with a gold legal badge could have done the same.

Or we could just retag to single-word-requests so everybody can play. :)

Matt Эллен

:D

Johan Larsson

!!define munchkin

tchrist

I pray to all that is holy — and all that is unholy, should that help — that we never have anyone with a gold legal badge.

Jarvis the Bot

@JohanLarsson munchkin (informal) A child.

Matt Эллен

it'll be some time before someone can earn a gold legal badge

tchrist

3:04 PM

Amen.

Johan Larsson

is there a legal.se?

tchrist

No: litigation issues. :)

@JohanLarsson That doesn’t really give you the whole munchkin picture.

Johan Larsson

I thought munchin was more common

tchrist

*Munchin is not English.

Johan Larsson

slang for eat?

!!urban munch

tchrist

3:07 PM

Aber München is Deutsch.

Jarvis the Bot

@JohanLarsson munch A low-pressure, social gathering at a restaurant or pub for people into BDSM. Particularly intended for people new to the scene who might be intimidated by a play party

tchrist

@JohanLarsson Oh, you mean munching. Yes, there is a colorful play on words between butt-munch and the dismissive munchkin at work here.

Johan Larsson

One I will never know :)

tchrist

@JohanLarsson I don’t think that is the munch you are looking for.

Johan Larsson

nah, it was a surprising result

Matt Эллен

3:09 PM

indeed. TIL!

tchrist

Munchkin

The Munchkins are the natives of the fictional Munchkin Country in the Oz books by L. Frank Baum. They first appeared in the 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, in which they are described as wearing only blue. They and the non-Munchkin Witch accompanying them are described as being Dorothy's height. The 1939 film The Wizard of Oz depicted Munchkins as being much shorter than other residents of Oz; they are played by either adult proportional dwarfs (i.e., midgets) or children, dressed in brightly multicolored outfits, and their land is called Munchkinland. On November 20, 2007, the Munchkins...

Munchkin (role-playing games)

In gaming, a munchkin is a player who plays what is intended to be a non-competitive game (usually a role-playing game) in an aggressively competitive manner. A munchkin seeks within the context of the game to amass the greatest power, score the most "kills", and grab the most loot, no matter how detrimental their actions are to role-playing, the storyline, fairness, or the other players' enjoyment. The term is used almost exclusively as a pejorative and frequently is used in reference to powergamers. The term was applied originally to young gamers by older players, presumably because the connotation...

Now, blend those two with a fair dollop of butt-munching, and you have our would-be lawyer.

Especially “plays what is intended to be a non-competitive game in an aggressively competitive manner”.

Plus he’s doing the usual lawyer-game of picking picking picking picking picking forever away at something until his opponent gives up in annoyance and frustration.

Johan Larsson

ok /eet I starred the ad hominem. It is the only item I have starred in the current list.

tchrist

Bulldog tenacity is not the way to earn high marks at playing well and getting along with others.

Matt Эллен

true

tchrist

It was appropriate for Churchill, but I refuse to Godwin this.

kwak

3:20 PM

x`/
x, \

tchrist

Well ain’t that just ducky!

Yes, Mr Rorschach.

kwak

you see a duck? I tried to make a crying face

@tchrist I'm going to pass that test

if I manage to find it

tchrist

x x
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/‾\

kwak

 `x x'
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tchrist

😢 😭 😿

Andrew Leach

3:32 PM

Ah. I got those (in Firefox).

This really is FF at the moment.

kwak

what is the card for them? the white shape in the center?

tchrist

I see two ducks back to back, about to march out ten paces each for their upcoming duel.

kwak

@tchrist because you like ducks that's why

I see a shitting bull

MickLH

All of the above

tchrist

A duck will always win in a duel with a non-duck.

So it must be two of them to be fair.

kwak

3:39 PM

What do they duel with? a gun?

and what is the card again?

MickLH

It's obviously two fat thai women doing kung fu dancing while wearing paper mache flower cup dresses

kwak

it's 2 rabbits climbing

MickLH

their chunky legs are in the air, and they are juggling a vase as they dance

kwak

it's a butterfly

MickLH

and don't miss the transformers autobot logo or whichever at the bottom

kwak

3:41 PM

it's a non-convex, non-connex shape

it's a map

tchrist

@MickLH *papier-mâché

MickLH

Hey bro, I went through the work of spelling mache pseudo-correctly, cut me some slack

tchrist

One is not awarded marks for effort, but for results.

MickLH

Sucks for that one, they should find more supportive friends

Andrew Leach

I fear the world of education may not have remained unchanged since you were last acquainted with it.

tchrist

3:44 PM

@AndrewLeach You might care to insert an un- or two somewhere or other there.

Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and thermonuclear explosions.

Andrew Leach

Hmm. I meant to repost that, not alter it. Never mind.

kwak

oh I finally get it, the card is the whole image...

MickLH

@tchrist now now, it counts in engineering too

So long as your judgement of "close enough" is, itself, close enough.

Andrew Leach

You've seen the video of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge?

►

MickLH

That's gotta be a classic in some way

Andrew Leach

3:52 PM

It was the bridge profile which was to blame. Slab-sided deck.

MickLH

That scene around 1:25 I think used to be used heavily in some darker crevices of pop culture

Andrew Leach

I've never been into pop culture. That video or one very like it was shown to us at university. "You too could build something like this. We're going to teach you how not to."

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Your teeth will last longer that way.

MickLH

I would sure hate to have to design a bridge

Thermal design is about as physical as I'd like to get

Even that's a pain sometimes

kwak

!!weather Tacoma

Jarvis the Bot

3:57 PM

@kwak Tacoma: 58.964F (14.98C, 288.13K), Sky is Clear

kwak

!!weather Seattle

Jarvis the Bot

@kwak Seattle: 58.6399F (14.8C, 287.95K), Sky is Clear

tchrist

Awfully chilly for July.

Andrew Leach

!!weather Hastings

Jarvis the Bot

@AndrewLeach Hastings: 79.394F (26.33C, 299.48K), overcast clouds

kwak

3:58 PM

!!weather arizona

Jarvis the Bot

@kwak [](openweathermap.org/city/5308655): 89.5459F (31.97C, 305.12K), dust

Matt Эллен

!!weather oxford

Jarvis the Bot

@MattЭллен Oxford: 27.98C (301.13K), broken clouds

MickLH

What the fuck, inconsistent temperature units?!

Andrew Leach

Why don't you get F?

Matt Эллен

3:59 PM

acceptable accuracy

MickLH

Not even converting to rankine automatically?!

tchrist

@MickLH Weevils.

Matt Эллен

because it know I don't give a F

;)

Andrew Leach

an F.

Matt Эллен

lol

tchrist

3:59 PM

’Nuff said.

Andrew Leach

I'm sure there's a question about it somewhere here...

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Bit late for breakfast.

Andrew Leach

Yes. I can't type. It's too hot.

MickLH

!!weather Chatroom

Jarvis the Bot

@MickLH Sorry, I couldn't get the data: Error: Not found city

tchrist

4:01 PM

@AndrewLeach Enough to fry the œuf you requested?

Matt Эллен

@MickLH hot and sassy

tchrist

79 is only hot if it’s humid.

Andrew Leach

The promenade was hot and sunny, and not too many people about.

It's a bit hazy.

Johan Larsson

@AndrewLeach the guy in the car is pretty chill about it

tchrist

Love was a rollaway
Just a cajole away
Mist on a summer's day
Nothing was clear
Love was a smile away
Just a defile away
I sought it every way
No-one came near

Andrew Leach

4:02 PM

@JohanLarsson The bridge did its dance all the time. It was called Galloping Gertie.

But a 40mph gale and it got carried away.

kwak

@MickLH because this part of the work don't need Farenheits

Johan Larsson

how old did the bridge get?

I would not expect concrete to like that much

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Er, gust.

Andrew Leach

Let's see if this works...

!!wiki Tacoma Narrows Bridge

Jarvis the Bot

Tacoma Narrows Bridge (1940)

The 1940 Tacoma Narrows Bridge, the first Tacoma Narrows Bridge, was a suspension bridge in the U.S. state of Washington that spanned the Tacoma Narrows strait of Puget Sound between Tacoma and the Kitsap Peninsula. It opened to traffic on July 1, 1940, and dramatically collapsed into Puget Sound on November 7 of the same year. At the time of its construction (and its destruction), the bridge was the third longest suspension bridge in the world in terms of main span length, behind the Golden Gate Bridge and the George Washington Bridge. Construction on the bridge began in September 1938. From the...

MickLH

4:04 PM

@kwak but dem rankinez doe yo

Johan Larsson

@AndrewLeach :)

Andrew Leach

Two years.

tchrist

Well gee, I take it back.

Whoda thunk 40 would be a gale for heaven’s sake!

Johan Larsson

Strange that they kept it in use if it was galloping regularly

tchrist

A good horse is hard to find.

Andrew Leach

4:05 PM

Too expensive to take down and rebuild, and not a problem up to then.

!!wiki Beaufort scale

Jarvis the Bot

@AndrewLeach The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing

Andrew Leach

Oh.

Beaufort scale

The Beaufort scale /ˈboʊfərt/ is an empirical measure that relates wind speed to observed conditions at sea or on land. Its full name is the Beaufort wind force scale, although it is a measure of wind speed and not of force in the scientific sense. == History == The scale was devised in 1805 by Francis Beaufort (later Rear Admiral Sir Francis Beaufort), an Irish Royal Navy officer, while serving in HMS Woolwich. The scale that carries Beaufort's name had a long and complex evolution from the previous work of others (including Daniel Defoe the century before) to when Beaufort was a top administrator...

tchrist

Beaufort scale

The Beaufort scale /ˈboʊfərt/ is an empirical measure that relates wind speed to observed conditions at sea or on land. Its full name is the Beaufort wind force scale, although it is a measure of wind speed and not of force in the scientific sense. == History == The scale was devised in 1805 by Francis Beaufort (later Rear Admiral Sir Francis Beaufort), an Irish Royal Navy officer, while serving in HMS Woolwich. The scale that carries Beaufort's name had a long and complex evolution from the previous work of others (including Daniel Defoe the century before) to when Beaufort was a top administrator...

Fibbery.

I never realized it was considered an Imperial measure.

I wonder whether Kit’s turn of phrase “make no case” will be considered baiting of cornswaggling butt munchkins.

Matt Эллен

:D

Johan Larsson

@tchrist that is your Perl talking :)

tchrist

4:11 PM

??????

Johan Larsson

type joke cos you wanted to keep a bridge as a horse :

static typing would not allow it

tchrist

> “Strong typing is for weak minds.”

And strong hands.

kwak

I like sailing in 12 Beaufort wind

Johan Larsson

@tchrist yes I like it very much

tchrist

My condolences.

C is a nice language, and I know where to find it if I want it. Generally, I don‘t.

kwak

4:15 PM

seriously I was a champ in sailing

Broughton Suspension Bridge

Broughton Suspension Bridge was an Iron chain suspension bridge built in 1826 to span the River Irwell between Broughton and Pendleton, now in Salford, Greater Manchester, England. One of Europe's first suspension bridges, it has been attributed to Samuel Brown, though some suggest it was built by Thomas Cheek Hewes, a Manchester millwright and textile machinery manufacturer. On 12 April 1831, the bridge collapsed, reportedly due to mechanical resonance induced by troops marching in step. As a result of the incident, the British Army issued an order that troops should "break step" when crossing...

Matt Эллен

→ 2 messages moved to Trash for EL&U

tchrist

4:44 PM

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Q: Announcement: Keyboard shortcuts are now integrated into the site

Originally we have implemented the keyboard shortcuts as a user script. We have now finally made the change to have them integrated into the site. When you go to the "preferences" page on your profile, you'll find a new checkbox labeled "Enable keyboard shortcuts". Click it, and from there on, e...

discussion user-interface keyboard-shortcuts

Matt Эллен

interesting

I installed the user script, but never used the shortcuts

Andrew Leach

Unfortunately the AutoComment userscript/extension is broken, and that's upset the comment keyboard shortcut.

The splitting of Add comment / Show comments broke that.

tchrist

That’s a shame.

Andrew Leach

It's being fixed.

user116848

The starred message by Cerbs is hilarious. I am LMAO

kwak

5:50 PM

no one agrees with my vision?

no one + singular right?

it's paradoxal

!!define blot

Jarvis the Bot

@kwak inkblot a blot of ink

@kwak blot A blemish, spot or stain made by a coloured substance.

kwak

Isn't there a spaceship looking like that?

but I thought it looks like that from above, not lateral view

so I'll rather answer a clown with an helix hat

I see 4 T-rex watching out

and now a pirate boat

user116848

6:11 PM

It looks like MRI images too :)

kwak

magnetic resonance images, why not

user116848

Magnetic resonance imaging

Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), nuclear magnetic resonance imaging (NMRI), or magnetic resonance tomography (MRT) is a medical imaging technique used in radiology to investigate the anatomy and physiology of the body in both health and disease. MRI scanners use strong magnetic fields and radiowaves to form images of the body. The technique is widely used in hospitals for medical diagnosis, staging of disease and for follow-up without exposure to ionizing radiation. == Introduction == MRI has a wide range of applications in medical diagnosis and there are estimated to be over 25,000 scanners in...

kwak

a trophy

user116848

I don't get these images. What are they?

kwak

@Arrowfar theinkblot.com

a pokemon whose I don't remember the name

let's say a monster to be more generic

user116848

6:15 PM

So what was your end result?

kwak

Sickness Quotient: 92%
WARNING: Your "Sickness Quotient" of 92% is very disturbing.

user116848

Did you complete the test?

kwak

it kinda agrees with my psychiatrist

@Arrowfar just 10 images

user116848

Sickness Quotient: 92% -----> meaning??

kwak

Job Performance & Attitude
You work very slowly. In fact, if you went any slower you'd be in reverse. Your work is of such poor quality that your manager is considering replacing you with a machine that flushes.

ow shit!

user116848

6:16 PM

Ah, that :)

user116848

hahaha

kwak

Personality Insight
Your personal motto is "Practice makes perfect.", but since nobody's perfect you might as well stop wasting your time.

Interpersonal Insights
You never give up and refuse to settle for less than the best. In other words, you're impossible to please and you never shutup. You think everyone is out to get you, and you're absolutely right. It's because you're an awful person without any redeeming qualities.

that's damn true

user116848

I hear EQ tests are much better at evaluating someone.

kwak

this one was good

EQ tests?

Emotional Intelligence

user116848

Yeah "emotional quotient" or ^ that

user116848

6:20 PM

wisegeek.com/what-is-an-emotional-quotient-eq.htm

kwak

@Arrowfar you know one online?

seriously my medication, is making my hands particularly my right hand weigh a ton, it's hard to move, hard to talk too, I even drool if I don't pay attention

user116848

@kwak psychology.about.com/library/quiz/bl_eq_quiz.htm and many others

user116848

queendom.com/tests/access_page/index.htm?idRegTest=3037

user116848

greatergood.berkeley.edu/ei_quiz

kwak

o I even had those pages opened, didn't notice the questions

@Arrowfar I don't even need the test, I feel no emotion, or close to none

user116848

6:24 PM

Yeah. I haven't taken them too.

kwak

I have no sexual impulsion also

user116848

Seems kinda pointless imo

kwak

an apathy, a complete lack of pathos

@Arrowfar I'll reach a 92% sickness as well :))

user116848

:)

kwak

sorry

user116848

6:26 PM

I g2g too

kwak

Sickness Quotient: 96%
WARNING: Your "Sickness Quotient" of 96% is very disturbing.

Detailed Diagnosis

Interpersonal Insights
Your friends (both of them) think you're a total clod. As long as you continue to buy the beer, however, they'll still be your pals. You complain about everything regardless of what it is. You wouldn't be happy even if you were hit by a new car.

Job Performance & Attitude
You aspire to becoming the CEO of a large, powerful company. This is unlikely since you rarely leave your parent's basement. You work very slowly. In fact, if you went any slower you'd be in reve…

Sickness Quotient: 100%
WARNING: Your "Sickness Quotient" of 100% is very disturbing.

Detailed Diagnosis

Interpersonal Insights
Your friends (both of them) think you're a total clod. As long as you continue to buy the beer, however, they'll still be your pals. You are utterly incapable of meaningful relationships, which is probably a good thing since you're a horrible bore under the best of conditions.

Job Performance & Attitude
You have little empathy for anyone more successful at work than you, which is pretty much everyone. You hate your job but will never leave it. That's because no …

kwak

8:13 PM

(sorry for the spam)

Jolenealaska

Hmm...I don't come here much. That exchange has me a bit befuddled.

@kwak were you just chastised for pasting that "personality profile"?

Johan Larsson

8:56 PM

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 38 secs ago, by sehe

Jolenealaska

I think I like that.

But why is it unrounding to compute tax? That's weird.

Johan Larsson

yeah strange

maybe just a bug :)

tchrist

9:36 PM

@Jolenealaska Define unrounding.

Jolenealaska

I meant it to be a bit goofy, but the subtotal is $54.00. After the $5 discount, that leaves $49. Yet the tax was figured on $48.99.

skullpatrol

and that is significant?

Jolenealaska

no, it's just weird

tchrist

It arguably produces no difference in the result.

skullpatrol

you're right, it looks wierd

just like 0.999...=1

Jolenealaska

9:44 PM

or 0.99999999999.

What's the point?

skullpatrol

maybe the computer formats numbers that way

Jolenealaska

It's just weird, I'm not suggesting that it is wrong.

or important

Johan Larsson

Clearly it is the same scam as in Office Space

Jolenealaska

I still haven't seen that.

Johan Larsson

It is decent

Jolenealaska

9:53 PM

I've heard that.

Matt Эллен

@JohanLarsson and Superman 3

Johan Larsson

what is the name of it? Salami something?

@Matt research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/fstar

Matt Эллен

ooo

that sounds interesting

F* to JS is interesting

maybe even interesting enough to read the paper

Johan Larsson

10:09 PM

@MattЭллен ping me with stuff you find if you do

skullpatrol

10:29 PM

if someone says "Now you're being an asshole." does that amount to them calling you an asshole?

my answer was "Yes."

and my reply was "I didn't call you an asshole, why are you calling me one?"

but by saying the word "asshole" back at them, I felt that I was sinking down to their level

Matt Эллен

@JohanLarsson will do

@skullpatrol I would say so

skullpatrol

@MattЭллен was my response appropriate?

Johan Larsson

11:02 PM

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by sehe

> Ok, so I'm looking at the code generation and your compiler is pure and utter *shit*.

Adding Jakub to the cc, because gcc-4.9.0 seems to be terminally broken.

Lookie here, your compiler does some absolutely insane things with the spilling, including spilling a *constant*. For chrissake, that compiler shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten. We're talking "sloth that was dropped on the head as a baby" level retardation levels

Claimed to be Linus Torvalds.

> He honestly despises being subtle or "nice". Source

Saladin

that so ANAL-ish

Matt Эллен

@skullpatrol seems OK to me

skullpatrol

thanks :-)

Saladin

@skullpatrol you like fighting ..

skullpatrol

is self-defense fighting?

Saladin

11:11 PM

does it make you smarter? or stronger?

fighting back...

you know there is a good Confucius saying on this..

for 'fools' and those who are 'wise'

or wiser*

skullpatrol

I'll agree sinking to his level was not "wise"

Saladin

remember bruce lee in ENTER THE DRAGON he said to the guy who was looking for a fight with him while him and other fighter were on the way to island....in order to talk sense to him ...lee said ...' You can call it the art of fighting without fighting....."

imdb.com/title/tt0070034/quotes

disagreement is fact of life; fighting over argument is just haste

trust me I have been in your position way too many times to know and understand this

skullpatrol